But they do need the right to be respected. I think they re living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldn t inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means? well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a human species. We ve sort of set ourselves up as gods, and we regard anyone that doesn t fit into the human species as sort of trash. I mean, as you said earlier, we might pet them, we might skin them. We decide. And yet animals are not like us, they are us. If we took elementary biology, we learned that we are one animal among many. It s a great, if you will, somebody said an orchestra of life, we each play a different instrument. That s rather romantic
Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means . Well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a Human Species. Weve sort of s
Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . The same rights as huma
thatisit that is it from me for the time being. now, hardtalk. stephen sackur speaks to palliative care doctor and writer, rachel clarke. she asks us to consider a tough question can dying be life affirming? welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. we humans know that one day we will die. but as long as our end has no specific timetable attached, many of us choose to shelve the thought, avoid it. covid, which took such a grim toll in so many countries, challenged us to confront the reality of our mortality. but still, health care professionals say what they call death literacy is lacking. my guest is rachel clarke, a doctor who made a choice to work with the dying, and who s written about it too, from a personal and professional viewpoint. can death be life affirming? dr rachel clarke, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, you have had pretty much two decades of doctoring. how has that time changed the way you do the job? well, i think i was pretty naive when i started, in
i want to bring in justice department ken dilanian, meredith mcgraw, and msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. ken, let me start you with. because the special mast ser out with a brand new filing laying out a fairly strict schedule and the process that he wants both parties to come to grips on basically. talk to us about what we re learning. that s right, hallie. first, he s giving, he s asking the fbi to certify that what they say they seized, that they re standing by that. it was a detail and exact list. and they are giving the trump team a chance to challenge items on the list that are inaccurate or things they say that were seized that aren t on the list. and then he is sending out a bunch of different categories of records that he is asking the trump folks to decide whether they re going to challenge on the grounds of attorney-client communication, and executive privilege, and whether the document is a presidential record, or whether it is a personal record. but hallie,