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immune to the venom of hatred to achieve the peace and prosperity that have eluded them through years of bloody ethnic conflicts. more news at the top of the hour. now it s time for political thinking with nick robinson. his guest this week as mary bousted, one of the teaching union leaders. hello and welcome to political thinking. it was another week when children and parents had to wait anxiously for an early morning text or an email to tell them whether their classroom or their school would open that day. thanks not to covid 19, not to a big dump of snow, but to strike action by members of the national education union this week on political thinking, a conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone in the news, my guest is the joint general secretary of that union, the neu, mary bousted. she is notjust the general secretary of the largest education union in europe, she has been a leader of a trade union for longer than almost anybody else in the country. ....
Longer than anybody else. and personally, i get on with him very well. i don t agree with what he s doing to schools and what he s done, but, you know, he s a serious politician and he works very hard. he just comes to the wrong conclusions. but the thing about nick is that once he s got an idea in his head, it will not be dislodged. and he said something which i had, you know, told him was wrong and given the evidence it was wrong three times. and i said, i don t know what to do, nick, so i think i m just going to bang my head on the desk, which i ceremoniously did. you wrote a book about what you thought should happen in education, and you called it a polemic, but with evidence. is that what you try to do? you are clearly a passionate person and we re going to talk about why you feel so passionately in a moment, but you feel that you can prove your case. i think that s so important. and when i wrote the book, and i m going to give it a title so that if readers want to get it, they ca ....