But they do need the right to be respected. I think they re living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldn t inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means? well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a human species. We ve sort of set ourselves up as gods, and we regard anyone that doesn t fit into the human species as sort of trash. I mean, as you said earlier, we might pet them, we might skin them. We decide. And yet animals are not like us, they are us. If we took elementary biology, we learned that we are one animal among many. It s a great, if you will, somebody said an orchestra of life, we each play a different instrument. That s rather romantic
Welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. Let me start by trying to establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . Well, not the same rights, because, of course, they dont need the right to do some of the things we wish to do, like drive a car or vote, although they might do better than weve done sometimes. But they do need the right to be respected. I think theyre living beings just like us, and so they should be understood as much as we possibly can understand them. We shouldnt inflict needless pain on them, and we should curb some of our habits that cause them a lot of suffering. Peta, your organisation, people for the ethical treatment of animals, opposes what it calls speciesism and a, quote, human supremacist worldview. Can you sort of explain what that actually means . Well, i think we have to get over ourselves as a species, as a Human Species. Weve sort of s
Welcome to hardtalk. Im stephen sackur. We humans have a complicated relationship with animals. Some we pet, some we skin, some we eat. We destroy their wild habitats while we agonise about the loss of species diversity. It is not an equal relationship, its exploitative, but will it ever change . And if so, how . My guest is determined that it should. Ingrid newkirk is president and Co Founder of the Campaign Group people for the ethical treatment of animals. Is she the Human Ally Animals need . Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Ingrid newkirk, welcome to hardtalk. Thanks very much, stephen. Thanks very much, stephen. Its a great pleasure its a great pleasure to have you in the studio. To have you in the studio. Let me start by trying let me start by trying to establish a core principle. To establish a core principle. Is it your belief that animals is it your belief that animals should enjoy equal rights, should enjoy equal rights, the same rights as humans . The same rights as huma
hearing on capitol hill. fbi director christopher wray on defense over the agency s alleged preferential treatment of democrats. senior, national correspondent kevin corke joins us here in the nation s capitol. good evening, kevin. kevin: you could call it a bipartisan be down today. hobbled and pilloried by the right and left for that matter at that hearing today on capitol hill. while his opening statement offered a forceful defense of the bureau, house members wasted little time in taking aim at the director for what they called corruption. and historically poor lead leadership. you preside over the fbi that has the lowest level of trust in the npr s history. people trusted the fbi more when j. edgar hoover was running the place then you are. you don t give straight answers. you give answers that later in court are deemed not true. kevin: wray fired back saying his agency remains popular. expect in your home state of florida, the number of people trying to come work
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