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there will be others. and i think the administration is going to make the case about why this is constitutional. why these powers were delegated to them in statute. i think they have a strong argument there. and but they re going to have to weigh that with showing what the efficacy of these programs are. i mean, this ultimately comes down to, if you can t have absolute privacy or absolute security at the same time, where do you draw the line? sure. and matt, what do you say as you heard glenn greenwald say earli earlier, this wind indicates the reporting, and the leakers who put this information out there? i think it is certainly true that this ruling would not have happened this quickly without the leak that we had. there is just no way this case could have been brought. but i think we don t know whether this program would have been declassified sometime down the road. the president has signaled he wanted to review these. and it does bring into a larger discussion of whether there

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131216:21:02:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131216:21:02:00
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131216:21:18:00

elsewhere some progressives saying he was a fan of george w. bush. and he was. he s not a partisan hack. he is one of the most aggressive judges against the detention programs at judge guan tan mow. one of the most respected judges in the country for constraints on the nsa. you couldn t have asked for a better judge. let me jump in on that. sure. and say i think there is no doubt this judge has a record of standing up to administrations of both parties and appointed by bush but on the guan tan mow case, particularly in 2008, took on that administration. rejected claims on security from both administrations. your thoughts, though, on the rejection of the precedent from the 70s. what he said was crucial. he said in 1979, the supreme court approved a very limited form of collecting one person s phone records for a limited investigation. and that has absolutely nothing to do, essentially, with what the government is doing now. which is collecting all people s phone records and the

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criticized over the issue, particularly regarding nsa monitoring of foreign leaders. however, this weekend, that very group turned its first report in with several ideas to rein in the nsa. according to government sources quoted, those ideas include limiting the use of bulk surveillance. the nsa s practice of collecting data first, and reviewing it later. that s at issue in today s court ruling. it also suggested taking the nsa s power away from military control to enhance civilian power and ensure senior officials are reviewing that spying on foreign leaders and also to stop allowing the nsa to make its case in secret court without any other side present. the panel recommends adding public defenders to debate the nsa s claims and that is important. it would require changing current law. in fact, a change the president himself advocated after snowden leaks were published by the guardian s glen greenwald, this summer. we can take steps to make sure civil liberties by ensuring

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