gathering capabilities. i hear some people running saying i m going to carpet bomb them. you have to have an air force to do that. i hear some people saying that. that s a direct reference to ted cruz and comments he s made recently. what s interesting here, there is a genuine philosophical difference between cruz and rubio on national security playing out. we see it with the surveillance debate. rubio accused cruz 0 of weaking national security reporting forms to the surveillance program unveiled by ed ward snowden. even rubio s supporters voted for that, bipartisan, had a lot of support from people, corey gardner a major supporter. there s a bigger dispute over a foreign policy vision. rubio favors some kind of intervention in syria to remove bashar al assad, not necessarily direct through u.s. forces but that it s an important step to defeating isis.
interesting, no matter where people come down on their view of edward snowden personally, today you have a federal judge, respected one, appointed 2001, involved in many cases saying what others have charged, that the aspects and the expansive nature of this surveillance is not constitutional. that s the likely finding from this judge. i want to read another point from the ruling. the judge writes that the almost or we willian technology that enables the government to store and analyze the phone met adata of every telephone user in the u.s. is unlike anything that could have been conceived in 1979. glenn, as you know, he uses that data because several people defendinging the program have said that earlier cases regarding something called a pen register basically oh earlier protections of a certain kind of surveillance, make all the broad surveillance okay. what did you read into that discussion there, rejecting that precedent? just one quick word about this judge leon. i ve seen on t
them for five years and engaging in very sophisticated forms of analysis so that they can trace who our network of associations and friends are, what we do in life, who it is we re speaking to. that it s a different universe, technologically and legally from what the court approved in 1979. and he said that had nothing to do with this program. yeah. there was actually an extended discussion where he quotes justice sotomayor, and said phones have our personalities and personal lives and refers to political, personal and sexual associations that can be in your phone. so allowing the nsa to go in and vaccum that up without probable cause, this judge says is a big change. i also want to get new on what the obama administration s panel has reportedly been doing. it s early yet, but there are reports they want to rein in some of the surveillance, as well. your thoughts on that. well, first of all, the fact they want to rein some of it in is also a vindication, i think an important one, o
edward snowden. judge richard leon ruled, quote, i cannot imagine a more indiscriminate and arbitrary invacation than this systemic collection of information on every single citizen without prior judicial approval. the author of our constitution, james madison, would be aghast. the judge also wrote that the government didn t criteria a single instance in which its analysis of the nsa s bulk data collection actually stopped an imminent attack. the ruling comes as the nsa faces increasing pressure from the obama administration which convened a pam of surveillance experts to consider reforms to the agency in august. we re forming a high-level group of outside experts to review our entire intelligence and communications technologies. and they ll consider how we can maintain the trusts of the people, how we can make sure that there absolutely is no abuse in terms of how these surveillance technologies are used. president obama has been
with karen feeney every day at 4:00 on msnbc. the nsa, edward snowden and the secrets we keep. glen greenwald, his reaction and developing news today. a federal judge ruling that parts of the nsa data collection program is likely unconstitutional. stay with us for that. [ laughter ] he loves me. he loves me not. he loves me. he loves me not. he loves me! that s right. [ mom ] warm and flaky in 15, everyone loves pillsbury grands! [ girl ] make dinner pop!