elsewhere some progressives saying he was a fan of george w. bush. and he was. he's not a partisan hack. he is one of the most aggressive judges against the detention programs at judge guan tan mow. one of the most respected judges in the country for constraints on the nsa. you couldn't have asked for a better judge. >> let me jump in on that. >> sure. >> and say i think there is no doubt this judge has a record of standing up to administrations of both parties and appointed by bush but on the guan tan mow case, particularly in 2008, took on that administration. rejected claims on security from both administrations. your thoughts, though, on the rejection of the precedent from the '70s. >> what he said was crucial. he said in 1979, the supreme court approved a very limited form of collecting one person's phone records for a limited investigation. and that has absolutely nothing to do, essentially, with what the government is doing now. which is collecting all people's phone records and then storing