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care, gr zeke emanuel. there is no better person to talk to than you. is this white house announcement in terms of extending the grandfather plan, is this a good move policy-wise? policy-wise, it s probably a toss-up. i actually think what the white house is doing is to say, look, there is a lot of up rest about it unrest it, it s distract. about half a million people won t go into the exchange, premiums will go up about 1%res it unrest it, it s distract. about half a million people won t go into the exchange, premiums will go up about 1% as a result, but it s not that big a deal. those are estimates by the independent think tank rand. and they think for the political game, it s worth to do that. and it certainly isn t a big deal. i keep saying, you know, they seem to be very strategic at the white house, do some of these things that are good politically but really don t affect the ynd lyii underlying policy, but defend
what s the legal justification for that. basically, they re using their d discretion. example, if you have a grandfather plan that doesn t require maternity. you get in a year, you get pregnant and sue your insurer and say you were supposed to cover maternity by law. they can t say, well, the president said. that s exactly what they can argue and they will if such a thing should happen. they ll argue it, but the insurance company does not have confidence that argument will carry in court. that s part of the broader problem. i agree that muddling through is necessary. i agree. i don t agree. i think the problem with the insurance company, they might lose money. that s part of the deal. if you get into this, look, this is a huge boom to the insurance company, why they spent all this money pushing it. it s a long-term thing and they have to recognize that. i know it s hard to do business in an unsteady arena and that s what we ve got now. it s not going to be done
september 14 memo listed monthly enrollment tarring test and this memo indicates the target enrollment number for the end of december is 3.3 million. bases on hhs s release this morning your department is more than 3 million off their target numbers, isn t that correct? through the end of november, that is correct. some news reports indicated 5.6 million individuals have had their policy canceled. isn t it the case january 1 more americans will have their coverage canceled than will have enrolled in an exchange. i don t know where the 5 million number comes from. i know people have been told their health plan doesn t necessarily match the aca compliance plans. they are not in grandfather plan and a number of those individuals are reenlisted and enrolled in plans. losing coverage and notified the plan they had doesn t exist
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