september 14 memo listed monthly enrollment tarring test and this memo indicates the target enrollment number for the end of december is 3.3 million. bases on hhs's release this morning your department is more than 3 million off their target numbers, isn't that correct? >> through the end of november, that is correct. >> some news reports indicated 5.6 million individuals have had their policy canceled. isn't it the case january 1 more americans will have their coverage canceled than will have enrolled in an exchange. >> i don't know where the 5 million number comes from. i know people have been told their health plan doesn't necessarily match the aca compliance plans. they are not in grandfather plan and a number of those individuals are reenlisted and enrolled in plans. losing coverage and notified the plan they had doesn't exist