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i think they have more evidence as to president trump s state of mind. donald trump s former attorney general with an ominous prediction for the former president in the 2020 election case. it comes as trump faces arraignment today in federal court in washington. we ll get a live report from washington, d.c., and legal analyst on what we can expect from today s hearing. meanwhile, former vice president mike pence just gave his most direct criticism of his former boss. we ll play those comments for you. also ahead, new reporting on a private meeting between president biden and former president obama over concerns about the 2024 election. good morning. welcome to morning joe. it is thursday, august 3rd. along with joe, willie and me, we have the host of way too early, white house bureau chief at politico, jonathan lemire. senior attorney and fbi official, chuck rosenberg. reporter for the washington post, jackie alemany. and pulitzer prize winning columnist ....
for trump, arraignment number three is tomorrow. how he is preparing for it the legal fight of his life, and the judge overseeing it has delivered this line, presidents are not kings. plus, could be the most important case in the u. s. history? one of the nation s top election experts says democracy is on the line in the united states versus donald trump. i m kaitlan collins, and this is the source. donald trump will be arraigned in less than 24 hours from now, right here in washington, d.c.. the first time for crimes he allegedly committed us president against his country. he s expected to appear in court at 4 pm eastern, in person, we are told, and today, his former vice president and now 2024 challenger, and a critical witness in this case, had a lot more to say about the january 6th indictment, and his former boss s role. anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be president of the united states. it wasn t just the asked for a pause, the pre ....
plus, we re learning more about the failed plea agreement for hunter biden and the questions raised by the judge in that case. and also ahead we ll bring you new reporting on a private meeting between president biden and former president obama over concerns over the 2024 election. good morning and welcome to way too early on this thursday, august 3rd. i m jonathan lemire. we ve got a big day ahead. thanks for starting it with us. we ll begin in the nation s capitol where just down the street from where he was inaugurated back in 2017, the former president donald trump will be criminally charged today for allegedly trying to disrupt the same government he once swore an oath to protect. around 4:00 this afternoon, trump will be arraigned in d.c. federal court on four felony charges stemming from his alleged efforts to block the peaceful transition of power following his loss in the 2020 election. the charges are conspiracy to defraud the united states, conspiracy to o ....
I don t think this defense of advice of counsel is going to go forward. i think the president would have to get on the stand and subject himself to cross-examination in order to raise that. you d also have to wave attorney-client privilege. what would happen if he got on the stand? i think it would not come out well for him. do you think it would hurt him? oh, yes. yes. why do you think that? well, because i think you would be subject to very skilled cross-examination, and i doubt he remembers all the different versions of events he s given over the last few years. do you think he knew that he lost the election? do i personally believe that? yeah, at first i wasn t sure, but i have come to believe he knew well he had lost the election. you know, what i think is important is the government has assumed the burden of proving that. the government in their indictment takes the position that he had actual knowledge that he lost the election, and the election was not stolen th ....
Thursday morning. an important morning joe starts right now. do you think he knew that he lost the election? do i personally believe that? yeah, at first i wasn t sure, but i have come to believe that he knew well he had lost the election. and, now, what i think is important is, the government has assumed the burden of proving that. the government in their indictment takes the position that he had actual knowledge that he had lost the election and the election wasn t stolen through fraud. they re going to have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. which is a high bar, of course. it s a high bar. now, that leads me to believe we re only seeing a tip of the iceberg on this. you think jack smith has more? oh, yes, i would believe he has a lot more, and that s one of the things that impressed me about the indictment. it was very spare. there were a lot of things he could have said in there, and there s more to come. ....