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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220119 08:38:00

code there. based purely on what we know from news reports and the steady stream of revelations coming from the house select committee looking into the attack, the attorney general has a powerful justification of the investigation into the former president circle. obviously does seem that there is sufficient evidence, sufficient facts as a predicate for criminal investigation of the individual that was obviously driving the whole thing. and everybody knows that. no mystery. about whether he was the one doing it. right. and he was the one doing it. the greatest crime that you could imagine the president would commit. if you don t at least look at this with the closest possible microscope you are basically saying that the president is completely above the law. this isn t about whether or not he spent money that wasn t appropriated from congress which would be a big deal, this isn t about whether he made some argument about the interpretation of the law and pushed it one step too far. t

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220119 08:28:00

that they need their testimony, but they want to put down markers for the broader inquiry, and there are a lot of possible charges that they could be subject to. impeding an official proceeding. they re looking at potential criminal referrals. all right. katie benner, i had, as january six investigation moves steadily through, donald trump s inner circle. what about the man in the center of it all? george connally and why says prosecutors need to start investigating trump, after this. investigating trump, after

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220119 08:06:00

again. again, they are not fighting. congressman adam shift is a member of investigating january 6th. served for donald trump s first impeachment. he joins us now. let s talk about rudy giuliani, who was a central figure in both of these plots. that resulted in both impeachments. why do you think it is important that the committee sit down and talk to him here? . as you can see by the series of subpoenas would ve issued overtime, by people in and around the administration. rudy giuliani was at the center of things was one of the most aggressive promoters of the big lie and the election he was involved in, trying to get state legislators to send alternate slates of electors to delay slates of electors. to me, most shocking claims are some of those that you just repeated chris. that is that they were involved in urging the president.

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220119 08:34:00

plainly attempted. one of them prominently is conservative john kawhi. recently altered an opinion piece in the washington post, arguing that the investigative road must lead prosecutors to those responsible for january six. former president donald trump. george conway joins me now. i want you to layer your case here, for what you think should happen and why. i don t think it is that complicated. he needs to be investigated for any number of the charges of the sort that have been brought against congress. judge mehta in the district of columbia called some of the people that he was sentencing the people that walked into the capitol on january 6th and broke into the capitol, he called them ponds. where are the higher ups he was asking? you know, they ve gone now with the oath keepers indictment last week. it s gotten to maybe the bishops and the nights. but they are still having a ways to go. and because they were all there, and they say this. these people.

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220119 08:26:00

entered the, building destroyed popular guy, etc, because they believe that donald trump wanted them to. this is an idea that has been brought up by people who have been charged. keep in mind, attorney general garland, the justice department hasn t ruled out the investigations of her anybody. they re willing to investigate people, even those who did not enter the capitol on that day. the departments already made good on that, by charging the head of the oath keepers with sedition. mr. rhodes, very notably, did not actually enter the capitol, he did not illegally enter, or try to stop congress that day, but if you look at the charging documents, it says he was a key player and the mastermind behind the attack. harry, in terms of the individual speed of the day. i think katie s correct say the odds of their cooperation are pretty low, we ll see what

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