again. again, they are not fighting. congressman adam shift is a member of investigating january 6th. served for donald trump's first impeachment. he joins us now. let's talk about rudy giuliani, who was a central figure in both of these plots. that resulted in both impeachments. why do you think it is important that the committee sit down and talk to him here? . >> as you can see by the series of subpoenas would've issued overtime, by people in and around the administration. rudy giuliani was at the center of things was one of the most aggressive promoters of the big lie and the election he was involved in, trying to get state legislators to send alternate slates of electors to delay slates of electors. to me, most shocking claims are some of those that you just repeated chris. that is that they were involved in urging the president.