The days biggest political and news stories, with interviews and reporting from around the nation. Thoug a sense the timing of the conversation was while the Manafort Trial was under way . Im going to credit Rudy Giuliani in his last corrected statement in which he says to me that he believes it was quite a bit longer before the trial. Now, manafort was facing a lot of charges in a pretty damning case of tax evasion and bank fraud. It was fairly, you know, high odds that he was going to be convicted based on those case based on those charges and the evidence that the government had. But, again, im just going to let giuliani say what he wants to say, which is that now he remembers it really probably was in june rather than in august. So further along than recently. Did you get a sense at all, carol, from your conversation with Rudy Giuliani as to why today did he mention this . Hes obviously given a lot of interviews in the past. Was it your reading of his intent that maybe he was tryin
supporters. he stated in a public journal. we know he s a teacher of western intelligence officer and we know he has ties to mi 6. it was very disappointing to see that recommendation didn t show any assessment about the myths or the role. so let me ask you this just because we re talking a little bit about pardons today. do you want president trump to pardon george? i think his only he s one that deserve the pardon above any other in trump campaign adviser. first of all, he s not involved with any, any financial crimes. his responsibility is limited to dnc and timing of the meeting. we know the role in the russia interference unless the prosecutor will show otherwise. i don t see why if the president
crime out in rural areas happens. but to say that white farmers specifically are being targeted, and as this group calls it, white genocide and projecting it to the president through the secretary of state to do something about it, you have gone way back way 1994, to an argument literally made by the who, of course, invaded and took that country. and it s absolutely, you know, fantastic that the president of the united states would suddenly use that unless it was a distraction. yeah, that is a very valid point as well, malcolm. let me play you this, because you brought the issue of how alan dershowitz, that the president adopts their talking point, watch this montage. barack obama, who received $2 million in illegal campaign contributions. if you look at president obama, he had a massive campaign
read. meaning he s being compelled to testify, under penalty of contempt, if he lies, perjury. that s what i understand his circumstance is. he s probably a reluctant cooperator. all the documents will come to the government and what they ll identify, or not, is that there was a lot of goings on that had nothing to do with journalistic enterprise and that these organs of ami, particularly national enquirer were being used as part of the election and not being declared on any filing. on top of it we have a typical conspiracy to defraud the united states by undermining the election process. there s a whole series of things opening up. the fact that they want to give immunity to pecker means they re interested in getting others. now, who? well, we re going to have the president, perhaps, as an unindicted coconspirator, i hope somebody has the gumption to
violation. every candidate violates the election laws when they run for president. almost everybody that runs for office has campaign violations. his close friendship also a mandatory disqualification. his close friendship with comey. when you see mueller with the conflicts, he s so conflicted. comey s his best friend. all right, so how was the right wing media here influencing the president? we put a little montage, but it goes deeper than that. they are the presidency. when we talk about the fox news presidency, there is no acting president. the west wing is vacant. it s a feedback loop. i m not sure it s work rg that well this week, you know, tuesday, the block buster revelations, reporting the white house was stunned by the michael cohen revelations. and so the strategy is always go run on fox news, we ll ride this out, we have our base. i don t see this as being contained this week.