top aides, david alexrod saying this. you could end up, in fact, invigorating the president s chances. you could end up losing american democrats in the highways if people react poorly to this and you could end up with a president re-elected. it s quite possible we will remember this day as the moment when president trump secured his re-election because it is that politically dicey. congressman scalise, a couple people around the edge seat danger for democrats. the country doesn t want impeachment. it could change but right now not looking good. this was a bad day for nancy pelosi. she has known from the beginning that impeachment is devastating to her heard but can t help herself. there is nothing to impeach the president on but yet the member pof congress who filed articles
fine with that. and i just heard the president s personal, political attorney say that he was directed by the state department to go meet with ukraine to geted evidence on the president s political opponent. now remember they controlledd congress for much of the obama administration, for the first two years of the trump administration and investigated hillary and clinton, obama all the time, yet rudy giuliani who hasn t practiced law since the early 80s says he has evidence come all this information. he s making things up and if the biden s were not public figures commit would be lifeless. i m sure my friend the former u.s. attorney would agree with that. laura: first of all, rudy is listening and he will respond to what you said.d. good. laura: we will let you go on but first the trump administration did say, by the way, the witness, the whistle-blower testified to. they have no problem with it. so that will all happen.
it is really shocking to me that these people couldn t even wait one day to read the transcript and can t wait. apparently, we get the full list of a whistle-blower report in a week or so. it s just shocking to me that you would try to start the stampede without actually looking at the materials. i find that very troubling. and i also want to say that i find it also troubling when someone mentioned earlier, i mean, how does a whistle-blower even know about this? how do people even know about this conversation, what kind of leaking is going on? i think that is very concerning. but my main point go ahead sorry. you also have to look at the constitution. the frame has debated this. some of the framer said abusive should be enough for impeachment. they had a vote on it. the frame of the constitution said, no, that would give congress too much power.
go. we have seen it before, but this does have some odd parallels does it not, to what happened with comey in the beginning and the march towards using leverage of government to stop this presidency. look nancy pelosi is right. what she said is no one is above the law but that means congress is not above the law. congress may not impeach a president unless the president m has committed an impeachable offense. the constitution sets out what the impeachable offenses are. you don t go around convicting the president, verdict first trial later. alice in wonderland type of injustice. they have not even seen the material. they haven t seen the transcript of the conversation. they don t know enough about the whistle-blower. nobody, nancy pelosi and nobody else, has mentioned a statute that this would violat, even if it were true. you have to find bribery.
executive authority, and he gett to make foreign policy. congress gets to legislate and congress doesn t get to remove the president unless specific constitutional criteria in that. laura: i think we should have a rap-off like citing federalist papers and go back and forth and continuing education credit for both of you. it s really fun. joe biden has had a bit of anev evolution in his own thinking on impeachment. this is what he sounded like today when pressed. this isn t a democratic issue or republican issue. it is a national issue. it is a security issue.em it is time for this administration to stop stonewalling and provide the congress with all the facts it needs. including a copy of the formal complaint made by the whistle-blower. laura: well, this is what he said back in 1998. the american people don t think that they have made a mistake by electing bill clinton. and we in congress better be very careful before we upset their decision and make darn