think it shows tenacity by jack smith s team and i think it is really important to have him under oath and locked in, in a way that he can t sort of wiggle out later or reduces the ability of to do that. they have a tool that the january 6 committee didn t have and they re not afraid to use it. and it this is again now, i ll say something positive, joyce said this, it is really important to know if you are a prosecutor, is pence going to help you in certain ways, is he going to hurt you in certain ways. you have to know the lay of the land, is he going to be consistent with other evidence or inconsistent and one big thing that we don t know yet, nicolle, is what is he going to say about the direct communications he had with the former president. so, it is fine to learn what he said to his staff and to his
i think mike has it exactly right. you have to know what is going to say. in december, last december, mike pence gave an interview and he said he didn t think that trump should be prosecuted. he said he said it was reckless, not criminal. we ll look for that. that is an important piece. here is the deal. it is not mike pence s job to decide who committed crimes or who didn t. he s a fact witness in this case. but if he s going to make that characterization, you want to know what he will say that might hurt your case or might help. and this is a little bit like investigating a conspiracy to rob a bank and not having spoken to one of the potential key co-conspirators. any other case, mike pence would have been under oath a long time ago and the under oath part is key. as a fact witness, as a prosecutor, you need to lock him in and know what his testimony is going to be when the chips are down. because you can t rely on him and then have him end up being a
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renato with the wire quote. if you shoot at the king, you best not miss. i think that you re remiding folks that some of what we learned did come from pence s closest aides, his counsel. that goes to something i alluded to earlier. some of those were probably unlawful orders rather than crimes. trump was doing mixing and matching. there were clearly attempted crimes like voter fraud in georgia, and then unlawful orders which in our system of government don t always lead to imprisonment. you had pence s lawyers talking about that and it may be the committee didn t ultimately want to pick a big fight with pence and make him out to be the worse enemy when they were focused on bigger problems. to bring joan into this, let s remind folks we have the december 21st meeting, one of several really horrific, terrible, undemocratic measures that were taken.
maintenance person that works in one of his hotels. i think that s outrageous. when he got to be president, he put a couple of his buddies in charge of the revenue department and the internal revenue service, and they don t do the audit that was done on other presidents until they get a letter from the ways and means committee, that waited a ycoupl of years to do that. we know the trump internal revenue service didn t do its job. and there s good reason to believe that donald trump owes far more taxes than he s paid. but we don t have the details because we don t have the audits that should have occurred. what do you make of that, that the audits that should have occurred didn t occur? it s difficult to determine because the all we have are the electronic records. there was no conversation permitted with anyone at the internal revenue service involved in the actual audit. but there are some indications that this was irregular.