early with us on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. this isn t a question of vindication. it is not a question, as i stated before, about revenge this is a my position is that, at the end of the day, donald trump needs to be held accountable for his dirty deeds if, in fact, that s the way that the facts play out that was donald trump s former fixer after wrapping up his testimony to a manhattan grand jury by the way, former fixer who went to jail, actually got convicted and went to jail for being part of this scheme that donald trump is now being investigated for. michael cohen spent two days on the stand answering questions about the hush money given to stormy daniels, the porn star. now, we re learning that she is talking to prosecutors also ahead, we ll dig into the new reporting out of georgia on another phone call the former president made to an election official there in the aftermath of the 2020 election. it s like the end of the hunt
learned the fbi searched pence s home in indiana and looking for any classified documents. we understand an additional classified document was discovered and removed and this was a so you will can aed consent search. which means it is one that was agreed to by both sides without the need for a search warrant issues in advance. but he was not eager to welcome the investigators. the new york times has reported this. negotiations on such a search were a rising tension between the two sides. the historic nature of an fbi search of a former vice president s home should not be diminished. but as we said, all of that is a back drop, half of the complete picture coming into focus this afternoon. because on the other hand, as we sit here, pence is now the subject of a subpoena. from the justice department relating to donald trump s efforts to hold on to power in the aftermath of the 2020 election. remember mike pence never spoke to the january 6 select committee. but time and again,
cover his backside. right. he said, we want to provide them with weaponry but not in an escalatory manner. give them some weapons, give them defensive capabilities, but don t give them the stuff that could escalate the conflict. i think he is going to try to wiggle out by saying, i don t want to cut off ukraine. i want to fund them to the point where it s a stalemate i ve got to say, i saw this a good bit when i was in the house. you d have people come out and make these statements, like ron desantis did about maybe involvement somewhere else across the globe, but it is always general enough that when the time came, when push came to shove, they almost always sup pors supported what the president wanted to do even when the president was bill clinton and the speaker was newt gingrich look at desantis statement, kevin mccarthy s statement i d be very surprised if they took the position of trump yeah, whether they were that extreme and say, oh, this war
think it shows tenacity by jack smith s team and i think it is really important to have him under oath and locked in, in a way that he can t sort of wiggle out later or reduces the ability of to do that. they have a tool that the january 6 committee didn t have and they re not afraid to use it. and it this is again now, i ll say something positive, joyce said this, it is really important to know if you are a prosecutor, is pence going to help you in certain ways, is he going to hurt you in certain ways. you have to know the lay of the land, is he going to be consistent with other evidence or inconsistent and one big thing that we don t know yet, nicolle, is what is he going to say about the direct communications he had with the former president. so, it is fine to learn what he said to his staff and to his
through. now, i want to debunk that. i ve heard a lot of reporting around that. because back in april when he same and said i m going to pay $44 billion for this, he also got debt commitment letters from morgan stanley, bank of america. so that s going to be really hard for them to wriggle out. and and even in the court filing the other day they anticipated her going to honor those anticipated they are going to honor those commitments. by the way they re. neil: they are looking into that, right? reporter: exactly. neil: to get it through my thick skulker they sign on the dotted rhine, and right now line, right now they re going to lose a lot of money, but they can t wiggle out, right? reporter: how it works is they loan that money to elon musk, but they sell that debt to other investors, and they are going to lose a lot of money. the part where it s tricky though is that he s still short so much cash. yes, he has all of the money that you just mentioned, but it s not liquid.