prank, but then i saw one of the people in front of me sort ofhe open his trunk. and then got with his bag, and started actually running towards the people that were mowed down. it looked like he was either a paramedic or a doctor or something. someone who was trained, but not in the uniform.k i think a lot of people thought this was some sort of a prank. people were sort of just walking and looking at the wounded people, no one sort of realized what had happened. tucker: that s always the case. people always think it s a car backfiring or fireworks, or a prank. i would probably think the same. thank you very much for joining us tonight. thanks.an i wish it was under different circumstances. tucker: i do, too. five hours after this horrible crime, what do we know about the suspect in the hospital tonight? rick leventhal is on the ground
tucker: what should the radicalization be. it should be, we are a diverse community, tucker. there will be the apologists. in denial. the reaction knees to be we not only need to wake up. we need to tell every americaner who knows us that america needs to shift from talking about terrorism, violent extremism to talking about political islam, talking about islamism, talkingl about jihad and the insurgency. we might have short-term allies like saudi arabia and others against al qaeda and isis, but they are not our long term ally. the only true allies of america, tucker are free-thinking muslims who want to reform. this week, protestantism enjoyed its 500th anniversary since its reformation. i will remind you 8 million people died in the 30 years war. islam is 1438 years old. a muslims need to wake up that we are just beginning this long and possibly bloody process as we see in the middle east for reformation, for freedom, for liberty.on americans need to take side in this war. and i
can operate through the internet, through various types of media, through software, facebook, et cetera. there are lots of ways to communicate radicalism. i think the thing that we have to pay attention to is that wolves travel in packs and the lone wolf notion really needs to get put on the shelf and hauled off and used once in a blue moon.nd that s not what s going on, lone wolf after lone wolf. this is part of the world islamic jihad. and i think ever more clearly so.. tucker: we ve broken the back of isis in some ways, they no longer have fast swabs of territory under their control, but you are hearing people say that maybe you were going to see if the metastasized around the world and an increase in attacka like this, is a possible? it already has, for my perspective. it is true that just two weeks ago we had the seminal week where we reclaimed the u.s.-backed syrian democratic forces reclaimed of the city.
anti-islamist muslims who are for reform and freedom. tucker: i think that s a very wise point. what percentage would you say of american muslims agree with you? i think the silent majority do. 60%, 70%. i think numbers have shown in the middle east that islamists are 30% to 40% of a political movement. a small portion of those are militantnv islamists. but we are in denial if we don t believe that nonviolent islamism is a precursor to militant islamism. in america those numbers might be a little more who believe in freedom and liberty.ecisin it s not by spontaneous combustion that militants like this come out of thing air. there s a process that s related to anti-semitism. misogism, anti-westernism. our mosques are heaped in islamic establishment that needs to be confronted by our business leaders and our community leaders. the solution is not, tucker, going to come from within the mosques. it s going to come from within the business, free community that marginalizes them..
york ever.et now they seem to happen with some frequency. it seems obviously tied to countryion, why is the unwilling to have that conversation, to face that? there something in that conversation that is still taboo, the ideology. don t touch the ideology, the mainstream media, academia. unless we change politically and intellectually we will not get anywhere. my concern hereng tucker: how can a small group of people in charge of our country continue to lie to the rest of us and demand that the rest of us participate in their lies when everyone knows it s a lie? the rest of us are getting increasingly conscious, because of the debate, second because of social media. the world of social media is very different from the world of mainstream media. younger generations are deciding, observing every day, they get it. the problem they don t have the power, except elections, except voting, exceptha expressing. tucker: interesting. what do you think causes the unwillingness of the peo