york ever.et now they seem to happen with some frequency. it seems obviously tied to countryion, why is the unwilling to have that conversation, to face that? >> there something in that conversation that is still taboo, the ideology. don't touch the ideology, the mainstream media, academia. unless we change politically and intellectually we will not get anywhere. my concern hereng -- >> tucker: how can a small group of people in charge of our country continue to lie to the rest of us and demand that the rest of us participate in their lies when everyone knows it's a lie? >> the rest of us are getting increasingly conscious, because of the debate, second because of social media. the world of social media is very different from the world of mainstream media. younger generations are deciding, observing every day, they get it. the problem they don't have the power, except elections, except voting, exceptha expressing. >> tucker: interesting. what do you think causes the unwillingness of the people in