and his ex wife saying she s his death has bought a sense of relief. so let s begin. a warm welcome to our guests nigel and joe, let s start with a sunday times first of all, which has on its front page, the image of the bridge on which there was the explosion there, so if i start with you, joe, first of all, humiliating for putting and it brings hope for ukraine? , ., , , ukraine? yes it does, indeed, this was the bridge ukraine? yes it does, indeed, this was the bridge that ukraine? yes it does, indeed, this was the bridge that was ukraine? yes it does, indeed, this was the bridge that was a - ukraine? yes it does, indeed, this was the bridge that was a symboll was the bridge that was a symbol hated was the bridge that was a symbol hated by was the bridge that was a symbol hated by people in ukraine because it is a hated by people in ukraine because it is a symbol of russia s occupation of crimea. it was opened in 2018 occupation of crimea. it was opened in 2018
we have enough that do exist. i thought it was much ado about nothing. look, i know you don t want to talk about it. this is why this is the reason i wrote the book. this is why you have conversations with people who don t look like you so that you can have a degree of comfort with them to be able to discuss these things and you know their intentions. so as i always say and i ve said to you since i met you, and you know that, if you don t have a friend who looks doesn t look like you, you re not doing it right. i hear you. look, i got a lot of black friends, but none like you. i tell you why i thought it was relevant, one, always happy to talk about what i say. i m more inclined to talk about what i do versus what other people do when they want to talk about what i said. say. but we ll leave that to the side. people don t follow these issues. the reason i thought meghan markle was really impressive to me was, one, talking about your pain ain t easy. it s not. even
four, five, turn, kick. we got chased by these wild coyotes! they were following her because she had beef jerky in her pocket. (laughing) (trumpet playing) someone behind me, come on. pick that up, pick that up, right there, right there. as long as you keep making the internet an amazing place to be, we ll keep bringing you a faster, more secure, and more amazing internet. xfinity. the future of awesome. thank you very much. a big things to discuss, so we must go to the big show cnn tonight, and the big star d. lemon. i love that conversation you were just having. why? because there s so much about colorism and shading and, you know. these are the talks that we have all the time, you and i have all the time. and, by the way, let me just say something about friday. do you mind if i talk about that? no, i m sure people will love it. in truth, leave it alone. let s stick with the positive. all right. you don t want to do it. stick with the positive, we don t need to ca
over the last 25 years to try to regulate data privacy and security. in part because silicone valley and the innovation that our economy is based on is derived from that lax legislation. so there s a broader conversation to be had like how do you control something that is also the engine for innovation under which a lot of the creations of our modern apps are built on, which is us. we re the product. like our data, our privacy. i m really struck by how we talk about tiktok now bassed on how we talked about it in the trump administration. trump tweeted great one night he was going to ban it, it freaked everybody out. but he had a real pursuit saying it needed to be sold, the concerns about what they were sharing, and now it s something that s widely accepted as it is a threat and what to do about it. you hear the treasury secretary
policy? it is. what politicians are doing, rather than some crazy tweet or do you know what i am saying? that s why i said i can t take issue with anything you said, charlie. and, you know, kirsten was just like, yeah, because this is this is how it s done. you are a small-government conservative. that s what i think the party has been, you know, built on. but it s not necessarily where it is right now. so i respect you for that and i respect your views, as well. and it s great to have these conversations. so both of you, thank you and i will see ya. i agree. see ya later. so he complains about black pastors presence in the courtroom and today, defense attorney kevin goff is calling pastors rallying outside the courtroom to support arbery s mother a quote lynching. cornel west has thoughts about that. he is next. sooner? and so she ll get some advice from fidelity, and fidelity will help her explore some different scenarios, like saving more every month.