policy? >> it is. >> what politicians are doing, rather than some crazy tweet or -- do you know what i am saying? that's why i said i can't take issue with anything you said, charlie. and, you know, kirsten was just like, yeah, because this is -- this is how it's done. you are a small-government conservative. that's what i think the party has been, you know, built on. but it's not necessarily where it is right now. so i respect you for that and i respect your views, as well. and it's great to have these conversations. so both of you, thank you and i will see ya. >> i agree. >> see ya later. so he complains about black pastors' presence in the courtroom and today, defense attorney kevin goff is calling pastors rallying outside the courtroom to support arbery's mother a quote lynching. cornel west has thoughts about that. he is next. sooner?" and so she'll get some advice from fidelity, and fidelity will help her explore some different scenarios, like saving more every month. ♪