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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:22:00

they were cleared. but christie s father, bud fleming, remembered something. there had been a young man years earlier when christie was a teenager, but he had forgotten all about the kid, wouldn t have thought of him at all except a few months before christie was murdered. he gets a phone call one day. hi, this is a voice from your past. bud s, like, well, i don t have time for this. who is this? he s like it s me, it s art. art? who was art? he was arturo gutierrez, christie s high school sweetheart. they had a relationship. in fact, they had a sexual relationship, and apparently she became pregnant and ultimately had an abortion, ultimately they broke up, and there had been a number of years that had passed since he had been in contact with her. then there he was out of the blue on the phone with christie s father. he said, i d like to get ahold of christie. can you give me her number? he said why don t you give me your number and i ll have her call you. i know

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:34:00

you have to tell yourself that god will take care of it. at some point, this person will pay for what they did. it s really the only way to be able to accept it. christie and rhonda s father, bud fleming, took it very hard. life didn t seem to be worth much to him anymore. he was under the care of a psychiatrist for the rest of his life and never recovered from it. he really really aged. it really took its toll physically, mentally. really only about one thing kept him alive. persistently and politely, bud and rhonda nudged detective davis. rhonda, i remember, would call me probably twice a year, about every six months. and she d ask me, hey, steve, you know, what s going on with this case? you know, i m just calling to

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:03:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:03:00
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:23:00

back in contact with her. but it s hard for a father because a father wants his daughter to be happy. of course. so on the one hand, he knew that she loved the guy once upon a time, and he s probably thinking, oh, you know, if this is what she wants, i want her to be happy, but on the other hand, you re always protective of your kids. sure. what should a father do? he certainly didn t like the guy, but christie was a grown-up. it wasn t really his business anymore, so he passed on the number, and she dialed it. i know she was very curious. like, wow. i wonder how he is now. so you re not really that upset or nervous or anything. you re just and she wasn t. no. it was kind of flattering that somebody would look you up after many years. art told christie he was in the roofing business. he asked her to stop by his work site and say hello. she said yeah, i went to meet art. he was telling me he s making all this money, he s got great things going.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151102:00:17:00

each was questioned, submitted saliva samples, and was given a polygraph test, and within a few days, all dropped off the list of suspects. christie s father, bud, who had taught his daughter to be so security conscious, tried to help solve what he could not prevent, by hanging posters all over town. if anybody out there knows anything at all, i m begging them to please come forward. we sure need the help. she was his baby. he was never the same. he used to be such an outgoing, fun-loving person, and this just totally changed him. he was just very heartbroken. it crushed him. it really crushed that man. was there anybody else bud fleming knew who could have committed the crime? perhaps someone on the fringe of his daughter s large social circle who had re-entered her life, and then ended it.

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