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a time, and he s probably thinking, oh, you know, if this is what she wants, i want her to be happy, but on the other hand, you re always protective of your kids. sure. what should a father do? he certainly didn t like the guy, but christie was a grown-up. it wasn t really his business anymore, so he passed on the number, and she dialed it. i know she was very curious. like, wow. i wonder how he is now. so you re not really that upset or nervous or anything. you re just and she wasn t. no. it was kind of flattering that somebody would look you up after many years. art told christie he was in the roofing business. he asked her to stop by his work site and say hello. she said yeah, i went to meet art. he was telling me he s making all this money, he s got great things going. and then he asked me for a ride. she said, where s your car? he said, i don t have a car. i don t have a license because i have warrants. warrants? no car? no license? maybe art wasn t quite as

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by the table where it appeared there were two chairs that were out of place. it looked like there had been two people sitting there, they had been smoking, and something happened that caused that ashtray to be on the floor. it was quickly becoming clear that christie not only knew her killer, she knew him quite well. certainly enough to share a smoke and a beer with him before he took her life. but who? detectives started with the obvious, men she was dating or had been dating. there was a number of them, and they proceeded by finding them, talking to them, and as a result of their interviews, established that there was a list of maybe three or four that were good possible suspects. each was questioned, submitted saliva samples, and was given a polygraph test, and within a few days, all dropped off the list of suspects. christie s father, bud, who had taught his daughter to be so security conscious, tried to help solve what he could not

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you think you got away with it, and then all of a sudden, they drop the hammer on you. it was davis who called christie s sister, rhonda, and her father, bud. i mean, i just can t even describe to you what a feeling that was for both of us that that had happened. in fact, the very day the detective called me and said, we just picked him up. he s under arrest for murder, unbelievable. but even though art gutierrez, who s sitting in jail awaiting trial for murder, davis felt obliged to warn the family that convicting him might not be so easy. a circumstantial case is a very tough case to get a conviction on. i mean even with the dna it didn t suggest necessarily that he was the murderer. but there was, remember, that one very important factor, the strange list twist that first attracted deputy d.a. john lewin, christie s compulsively obsessive neatness. at trial lewin presented a theory of what happened. that gutierrez came over late

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past. bud s, like, well, i don t have time for this. who is this? he s like it s me, it s art. art? who was art? he was arturo gutierrez, christie s high school sweetheart. they had a relationship. in fact, they had a sexual relationship, and apparently she became pregnant and ultimately had an abortion, ultimately they broke up, and there had been a number of years that had passed since he had been in contact with her. then there he was out of the blue on the phone with christie s father. he said, i d like to get ahold of christie. can you give me her number? he said why don t you give me your number and i ll have her call you. i know my dad didn t want art back in contact with her. but it s hard for a father because a father wants his daughter to be happy. of course. so on the one hand, he knew that she loved the guy once upon

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