the government will shut down if no budget is passed, mccarthy has announced he would open an impeachment inquiry into president biden. now that is a gambit that is certain to fail. and i don't just mean that mccarthy can't possibly get by the removed from office, which would involve not just an impeachment in the house, but a trial in the senate, i mean that it is unclear if mccarthy can even win an impeachment vote in the house. it is unpopular gambit with a smaller meeting faction of the republican party that still cares about governing, which is probably why mccarthy opened the impeachment inquiry without holding a vote as customary and as he had earlier indicated that he would do. why would the speaker of the u.s. house of representatives third in line in the presidency, launch a presidency that appears to be both strategically and politically unwise? easy. because he owes that important job to a small band of far-right conspiracy peddling wing nuts who belong to the cult of donald trump. mccarthy barely got his job as speaker, it took him 15 ballots to win the election, because a handful of members of his own party refused round after round to vote for him. preventing him from getting majority. and a group of 20 republicans initially voted against mccarthy's speakership. most of them have been endorsed by donald trump, and most of them are election deniers. 14 of them overturned -- voted to overturn the election in 2021. in order to convince these holdouts to stand down. mccarthy agreed to a series of concessions, including adding more ultraconservative freedom caucus members to the rules committee, which dictates the floor of legislation on the floor of the house. he also agreed to appoint members like marjorie taylor greene to leadership positions and crucially, he agreed to lower the required number of members to force a vote ousting the speaker, something is called a motion to vacate the chair, for five members to one. one far-right republican can call for a vote to remove mccarthy from his job. so, with that agreement, kevin mccarthy put himself in his speakership at the mercy of any one member of the chaos caucus. his job, his power, is at the mercy of, for example, matt gaetz. so there's a lot of suggest that gaetz is exercising that power right now. but before the summer recess, mccarthy said that if the house launched impeachment inquiry, he would first hold a vote on whether to proceed. but then on tuesday, gaetz said on the house, for quote, mister speaker, you are out of compliance with the agreement that allowed you to assume this role, and. quote and by this role, he meant, speaker of the house. gates later, said quote, the path forward is to either bring you into the immediate, total compliance, or remove you pursuant to a motion to vacate the chair, and quote. gaetz saying, essentially, do it our way or you are out. soon after, that mccarthy announced unilaterally that he was opening an impeachment inquiry into president biden. no vote. matt gaetz called that a baby step, but gaetz is not the only chaos caucus member who might flexing his muscles right now. according to a reporting from the new york times, just two days before mccarthy announced the impeachment inquiry, trump had a quiet dinner with the conspiracy theorist, marjorie taylor greene. trump has been pushing the impeachment of joe biden on truth social, and his fundraising emails and texts, and doing his rallies. and for her, part marjorie taylor greene said she told trump that she wanted the impeachment inquiry to be, quote, long excruciatingly painful for joe biden, and quote. but all of this came to a head on thursday. mccarthy held a closed door meeting, when the report began with him telling his conference, if you think you scary because you want to file a motion to vacate, move the effing motion, and quote. he said the whole, word apparently. the gop is, right, now in crisis. radical minority, just about 20, then maybe, more who knows. more under the influence of the quadrupling indicted, twice impeached ex president, appeared to be holding sway over the house of representatives and therefore, over what kind of work gets done by congress. and for that, reason we have a doomed impeachment inquiry instead of a budget this week. joining me now is tom, nichols a staff writer for the atlantic and author of the atlantic daily news writer. he is the author of multiple books including our own worst enemy, the assault from within, on modern democracy. also with, me joe walsh, former republican congressman from illinois, who ran against donald trump for president in 2020. joe is the host of the white flag with joe walsh podcast. he's the author of the book, f silence, although it would also include the full word sort of like mccarthy use the other day at the meeting. calling for trump at the common that he is in good morning to both of you. i cannot believe we're having this conversation, we are actually having this conversation, gentlemen. joe walsh, tell me how this plays out. because there, are let's call it 20 chaos caucus folks. and let's call it 20 republicans who won in districts with joe biden also won who are not just in this inquiry it all lets mean that mccarthy doesn't pasco that mean he's actually giving matt gaetz ellison satisfaction by having this inquiry? what is this actually mean? >> well, ali, let me just first explain where we are. let me just firs explain where we are ♪ (man) that looks really high. 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>> well, it is iran's money, from their oil sales. so for many years ago. and whenever u.s. dollars are going to be transferred overseas, the united states as the ability to prevent that from happening, because it is our dollars that are being transferred. so, therefore i think the united states, in the biden ministration, in previous administrations as well have been trying to prevent iran from using these that have been frozen overseas to continue to support it and it's warm machines, for its military establishment and security intelligence services. as you point, out the iranians have a ruthlessly repressed and suppressed the iranian people, in the aftermath of mahsa amini's very tragic death. and they continue to do that on to president racy. so, again, i think this is going to be continued to protracted negotiations with iran, knocked over these prisoner swaps, but also trying to get them to come back into full compliance with their nuclear responsibilities under the iaea. >> except, we had a plan for, this right? we had an actual deal in which we had some influence into that. and the previous administration decided we did not want to be in that deal. and i've always maintained about her are village haven flipping over iran. attorney if you think that is true? >> i think very seriously damaged or credibility overseas. not just with iran, but with other international actors. because there was a deal, i think it was very concerned of the iranians would violate the deal. but, quite ironically, unfortunately, under the trump administration of the united states, the decided to walk away from a deal that was negotiated, i think in good, faith during the administration, to include with our security council partners. and so, therefore, iran continues to point the finger at washington as not following through on its commitments, which i think is one of the reasons why having any follow on deals with iran now is very difficult. because there's still great suspicion within iranian political circles that the united states would fall through navies commercials given what the trump administration did. but >> there's a broader feeling here, since the days that you were cia director, there's been a slow shift that would become a thing where most people think of as hostages or prisoners are now held by either states themselves or state sponsored organizations. o>> that makes the negotiation different, right? because they hold out for policy changes, release of their money, release of their people. how does that change the way we deal with these people who are held, and how we make sure that this does not encourage states to basically kidnap and charge americans or other countries nefariously. >> on a plow, american citizens overseas are frequently targeted by governments and regimes as a way to gain some leverage of the united states. look at inside of russia, the wall street journal still being incarcerated there. britney griner previously. and, therefore it makes a very difficult to be able to have any type of serious discussions of negotiations based on whatever evidence there might be about what the alleged wrongdoing is. so therefore, it's caught up in the policy discussions, and whether or not it be the iranian government or others trying to gain some type of advantage for the united states in terms of policy discussions. unfortunately, u.s. systems are pawns in that game of back and forth between governments. so, it has become a very, very difficult issue for the united states government, the biden administration. but, again i think there needs to be this long standing commitment to follow through to try and get americans who are unjustly, unfairly, incarcerated overseas to help them get their freedom. to do in a way that undermine u.s. interest at all. >> doctor, good to see you as always, john brennan is a former director of the cia during the obama administration and msnbc's international security and intelligence. he's also the author of the book, undaunted, my fight against americas enemies at home and abroad. still to, come the impeachment trial of texas attorney general ken paxton as to reveal a rift in the state republican party, on one, that conservatives who are interested in governing, on the, other conservatives who are interested only in holding on to power at all costs. on to power at all costs. it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. 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[inaudible] let's just talk about the >> i don't interrupt you for a second, this is our fault, we've got a bit of an audio problem, i want to fix it quickly, and then come back. too so i'm just going to ask our control to just take care that, we are hearing you twice, which, frankly is a benefit to most of us to hear you twice, but we want to actually make sure that it is clear. so hang on for a second. we are going to come right back to you. but, i want to put this question to you, representative johnson. you had donald trump, steve bannon, ted cruz. standing behind paxton, really going out on a limb. there was a republican pack that sort of said, if you vote to impeach paxton, we will come for you, you are done. you had other people, former governor rick perry, you had text as other u.s. senator, john cornyn saying, let this process play out as it does. can you explain why that rift exists? >> you know, we saw some quarter that it came, out and he had been the texas attorney general. and he had the courage to come out -- and that is alarming. it is absolutely alarming, and you are seeing a political shift. 71% of texas house republicans have the courage and the strength to vote to send this evidence to the senate. 11% of texas republican senators only show that courage, and it was not enough. you are seeing a divide within the republican party and texas, and you are seeing a divide of extremism, and, frankly dirty money. adding that texas monthly reported that tweets that are in favor of paxton, that people get paid 50 bucks to tweet. and we are not even talking about that. there is an onslaught of funding from two billionaires in the state, they've made it clear that they have no problem trying to pay off, and by, texas republicans. senator, or lieutenant governor dan patrick. he's got $3 million before he presided over this trial, and i think it was excessively clear when the verdict came out of what side, and how he felt in favor of. that is not okay with us as texans. that is a fraud on our belief and republic integrity of what lieutenant governor should've done in presiding over the trial. i think there are serious questions about the money, and influence that is impacting some texas republicans. >> and in texas, utah governor is a uniquely powerful position, but let's remind everybody, dan patrick was the guy behind texas motion to have the 2020 election nation wide denied. that motion that a whole lot of republicans the house of congress signed on to. representative johnson, thank you for joining, us representative and johnson, of texas. rogan affix jasmine crockett's audio, already back in just a moment. ivel head that goes places a regular mop just can't. mop smarter with the new swiffer powermop. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv (dad) oh yeah! now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. 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can you not find someone who is an upstanding citizen, who was absolutely ridiculous that they continue to say, you know, what don't believe your lying eyes. it's the same thing that we saw when we looked at black lives matter. they continue that we backed the blue, but on january 6th, the decided to beat the blue. they will decide that they're gonna do whatever is expedient to that, and the adjustable's they go, and i'm like democrats, they say that these are the rules, and we will operate within them. and you're right, ali. it is unfortunate that right now, you say almost gonna shut the government down, i'm absolutely anticipating that they are going to shut the government down and weighs taxpayer dollars doing things such as continuing their rogue investigation of a sitting president that they've been doing for the last nine months and come up with absolutely zero. and they want to say that what is unfair is that trump is facing 91 indictments in four different jurisdictions where he was indicted by a jury of his peers. not democrats, not biden, not the biden administration, but by the people. >> that's exactly right. congresswoman, good to see you. thank you for joining. us we apologize for the technical problems, but it is always great to hear from you. the democratic representative, jasmine crockett, of texas. she knows what she speaks. she's a member of congress, she was a member state house in texas. still to come on velshi. from a recess has come to an end and the fun is over and the next two weeks are going to put kevin mccarthy's leadership to the test as he struggles to unite the house republicans and we are going to get into the threats, the closed-door meetings, and the f bombs. another hour of velshi begins right now. good morning. it is sunday, september the 17th. i'm ali velshi. we begin this morning with the crisis of le