o win abuse of power on its face and concert tickets, that's how you the more you learn, the worst it have to call unemployment. gets, david, thank you so much. that is "all in" for this evening. >> tomorrow morning the labor department releases the april the "the 11th hour" starts now. monthly employment numbers. as this "new york times" headline puts it, expect a portrait of devastation. well, good evening on this day 1,204 of the trump then there's the other major administration. development today. a stunning reversal in a signature case that was part of the russia investigation. as all presidents know, the the justice department is asking white house ushers and the u.s. to drop its case against navy stewards who serve the president trump's first national president often perform the most security adviser michael flynn. remember he pleaded guilty to private functions behind the lying to the fbi in january of 2017 about his conversations with then russian ambassador to scenes at the white house. they are often the first person a president sees in the morning and the last person at night. the u.s. kislyak. they serve diet coke and coffee and water in the oval office and upstairs the men who serve as flynn was one of the first and valets may lay out clothing for highest ranking trump aides to cooperate and be convicted in the president for the day while handling laundry and meals and packing for trips. the mueller investigation. in february of 2017, trump fired flynn for lying to the vice itching for an outing... president about those very conversations. or itching for some cuddle time.
richard nixon's valet, manolo he was subsequently charged with sanchez, was famously loyal and but you may not know lying to bureau agents. when he's itching for help... grew close to the boss both in earlier this year, flynn office and later on in his licking for help... retirement years. or rubbing for help. if your dog does these frequently. so today when we heard that the the doj is now asking the judge they may be signs of an allergic skin condition president's u.s. navy valet had in the case to dismiss this that needs treatment. the coronavirus, we knew it had case. don't wait. come very close to the talk to your veterinarian president. attorney general barr spoke to and learn more at itchingforhelp.com. cbs news about the decision. just today this country lost >> our duty, we think, is to dismiss the case. over 2,100 people. a crime cannot be established here. they did not have a basis for a that's our one-day death toll as this illness continues to grow, bringing our national death toll counterintelligence tonight to 76,441 lives lost. investigation against flynn at that stage. i want to make sure that we indeed it was news of a positive restore confidence in the case inside the white house system. residence that led the news coverage today. there's only one standard of the president was asked about that and precautions. justice. >> today trump referred to the >> i've had very little contact, flynn situation as treason, personal contact with this which is interesting because among other things, judge gentleman, know who he is, good sullivan, the federal judge in this case, said in open court there are times when our need to connect really matters. person, but i've had very little that arguably mike flynn sold to keep customers and employees in the know. contact. his country out and was an mike has had very little contact to keep business moving. with him. unregistered agent of a foreign comcast business is prepared for times like these. but mike was tested, and i was tested.
we were both tested. country while serving as the yeah, it's a little bit strange, national security adviser to the powered by the nation's largest gig-speed network. but it's one of those things. president of the united states. to help give you the speed, >> nbc reports trump became, reliability, and security you need. today that president of the united states called his former tools to manage your business from any device, anywhere. national security adviser, who and a team of experts - here for you 24/7. quote, lava level mad at his admitted to lying to the feds, a staff after learning about the we've always believed in the power of working together. hero. valet and said he doesn't feel they are doing all they can to >> i'm very happy for general that's why, when every connection counts... flynn. protect him from the virus. you can count on us. he was a -- a great warrior, and trump said he and pence tested negative both wednesday and he still is a great warrior. thursday, says they'll now be now in my book he's an even tested daily. greater warrior. >> are you going to reach out to he added the valets and other general flynn? a crime cannot be white house staff members all >> i will. established here. wear masks these days. you know, i think it's -- at the they did not have a basis for a yet as we've seen, the president appropriate time. counterintelligence pointedly does not. i think he's a hero. tonight the associated press it's a scam. investigation against flynn at reports, quote, trump has told it was a scam and a hoax. >> on that note, here for our that stage. >> does the fact remain that he advisers that he believes leadoff discussion on a thursday lied? wearing one would send the wrong night, two of the very best from >> well, you know, people message and make it seem like he "the new york times," annie karni, white house sometimes plead to things that correspondent. is preoccupied with health peter baker, chief white house turn out not to be crimes. correspondent. also with us tonight, stephanie >> more from attorney general ruhle, senior business bill barr today on this doj seeking to drop its criminal correspondent at nbc news, a case against michael flynn. veteran of the investment instead of focused on reopening
the nation's economy. banking and business world and flynn, again, pleaded guilty to trump has also told confidants the host of the 9:00 a.m. hour he fears he would look ridiculous in a mask, and the image would appear in negative each day on this network. ads. white house aides say the lying to the fbi about his president hasn't told them not annie karni, let's go back up to to wear masks, but few do. the president's been conversations with the former relentlessly messaging the need the top of the broadcast, back russian ambassador. to reopen our country, get the economy restarted. at least 43 states, to that end, will be partially opened in some up to the start of this day when form or fashion this coming we woke up to news of a positive the president had plenty to say weekend even with the concerns about moving too quickly and case in the innermost circle when the news came out at the with testing still way below white house. around the president, however >> he was an innocent man. what experts say is needed. much he says he wasn't around this morning the a.p. reported he is a great gentleman. the white house shelved cdc him very much at all. he was targeted by the obama serious question. administration, and he was targeted in order to try and guidelines that lay out a take down a president. and what they've done is a step-by-step process for states other than the boss, talk about disgrace, and i hope a big price protocols. is going to be paid. a big price should be paid. to reopen safely. >> back with us again tonight, frank figliuzzi, former fbi assistant director for again, nbc news has confirmed this story. how seriously inside the white counterintelligence and among house does the white house take administration officials telling our national security analysts. nbc news the white house views and neal katyal, former veteran these precautions? the cdc guidelines as too strict of the justice department, >> it is changing now because of former acting solicitor general and has asked for revisions. this. trump repeatedly says the now they're going to go to a during the obama administration. decision-making should be left daily system. he has argued 39 cases and but i spoke to people inside the to the states, and he said it again today. white house who were frustrated with the testing and the counting before the u.s. supreme >> the governors have great precautions that were being taken. court. power as to that given by us. inside the west wing, people who would interact directly with the and, gentlemen, before we go president were being tested regularly. another inch, i wanted to play we rely on them. but people who work in the old we trust them. executive office building, which is on the white house campus, for you some of the postgame told me they were tested maybe once every seven days, interacting with people who coverage tonight on fox news. >> this was a deliberate, and hopefully they're making the interacted directly with the malevolent, concerted effort to
right decisions. >> this pandemic continues to president and interacting with people who weren't getting destroy an honest man and thereby get to the president of take an unprecedented toll, of tested at all. the united states to destroy so there was a feeling there were big gaps in the testing him. >> the whole purpose was to going on on that campus, not to frame him so that they could course, on our nation's economy. mention the fact that the messaging on masks that had been squeeze him to set up the sent from the top down. president of the united states over 3 million people filed for vice president mike pence, president trump have both made very clear that they do not plan unemployment just in the space to themselves follow the cdc in order to change the course of guidelines on wearing masks. of last week. american history. >> because of his support for that means over 33 million have so aside from a few national president trump, he, like the lost jobs over the past seven security council aides, most weeks or roughly 20% of president and many other people around the president, they were americans who were all gainfully employed back in february. people are not wearing masks subjected to years of total hell when they're around the president. by a corrupt group of dirty so i heard frustration today cops, to quote joe digenova. >> frank figliuzzi, federal from people who work on the judge sullivan said to flynn in white house grounds saying that court that he arguably sold out there are huge gaps in the his country. who's right here? testing that was going on up until this point. >> i guess that depends >> peter baker, let's take our unfortunately on who you're cue from your piece, which went talking to, but i'll go with the up about 27, 28 hours ago. federal judge. i'll go with the lifetime the danger of phrases like "the appointment any day, someone who cure can't be worse than the disease." stands for justice. the justice department and the attorney general used to do the danger of phrases like "it that, but they don't do it is what it is" about things like our national death toll. anymore. >> yeah. and, brian, i've spoken with
i think that this episode sort of reinforces just how some current and former problematic and challenging it colleagues at the fbi today, and will be to reopen the country. i think if there was a word that both denoted sadness and anger if we cannot be sure about a together at the same time, protocol to keep the president of the united states safe, that's the word i'd be using. what's it going to be like in meat factories in the midwest? what's it going to be like in and that's what people are feeling today. office buildings in manhattan? i read through that doj filing what's it going to be like in those barbershops in georgia, we're seeing? it raises all sorts of questions. now, you can understand why the president would be eager to reopen the economy as quickly as possible. twice today. those numbers you flashed earlier represent a lot of pain. i had to read it twice because i 33 million people, one out of was in disbelief at the every five workers in this country without a job right now. deliberate manipulation of the a lot of those people are truth. getting federal aid, but some of them aren't. it's filled with falsehoods and that interview you played distortions that appear designed showed. to just mislead the court and mislead the readers. we could spend the rest of your those people may be having a show almost going line by line on what's wrong with that hard time feeding their filing. but i'm here to tell you that children, paying for other it's grossly distorted. and in particular, most pertinent perhaps is the health issues they might have. assertion by the attorney so there's a lot of pain and a lot of motivation on the part of general in this filing that the a president to reopen the lie that flynn told was not economy. but balanced against the health material to any fbi case. risk is the challenge, right? therefore, they shouldn't have if you open up so soon that the virus not only doesn't go away, even been interviewing him. it comes back again in even stronger form in the fall, which i'm here to tell you from a
is what some of the public counterintelligence investigative standpoint, the health experts worry about, then department i used to head within the fbi, that's exactly material there won't be an economy there to deciding whether or not the person sitting across from you to reopen because a lot of is or is not a threat to the nation. people won't be coming out to their jobs, won't be going out to restaurants, won't be doing things the president would like them to do. so these things are intertwined, not in opposition to each other. finding that balance is a challenge, i think, for even the is he lying to you right now best of our leaders. about what you already know? >> and, steph ruhle, peter so the filing today is deeply, invoked the economy. deeply distorted and deeply that means we pivot to you. disturbing. >> neal katyal, i imagine big for those families not already crowds around televisions in suffering, a lot of us are prison pods across this country as people doing 20 to 30 years having a hard time on a guilty plea are now going prognosticating -- perhaps you to want to flood into court can. how bad is this going to get? >> brian, look at the numbers. put it in perspective. arguing something like the flynn exception. is this going to become a thing? >> it's not going to become a unemployment. thing, and i think, brian, that's the whole point in why this decision is so devastating. it guts what the rule of law is when we faced the financial all about. it shows that there's a special rule if you're trump's friend. crisis, the worst month during you get out of jail, and you get the financial crisis, we saw the book thrown at you if you're not. 800,000 drop in jobs. and justice is supposed to be blind. since we started the here we've got a circumstance in stay-at-home orders, we're which the guy, flynn, admitted seeing 3 million to 6 million per week. twice in open court -- he pled guilty twice to it, and you had
now, of course we know this is the attorney general -- you just temporary because we've shut our economy off, and so many businesses have been forced to shut down. and, yes, those businesses are desperate to open back up. i am sure all four of us are desperate to go out to eat and played him a moment ago -- saying, well, sometimes people plead guilty to crimes they don't commit, sounding like a defense lawyer, not like the to resume our lives. attorney general of the united states. and, look, i'm the first person so things are going to get back to believe that, that those types of people who plead guilty tend to be those who don't have somewhat to normal. access to dream teams as flynn had and who don't have but when the numbers have gotten this bad, there is absolutely no way that we can bounce back. and one other thing that's important to note. experience with the criminal we have a consumer-based justice system or law economy. enforcement more generally. when you've got 33 million here we've got a general who was people out of a job, when one in the national security adviser, five people who do have a job and it beggars belief to think that when he is accused of have faced a pay cut, you're serious federal felonies and lying to the fbi, he just rolls certainly not going to see a over and pleads guilty. consumer spending jamboree. give me a break. and without that spending, how i mean what you do in that circumstance is you fight for is this country going to do well economically? your honor, and you fight like consumer spending is the key to heck. our economy. you don't sit and plead guilty. >> annie karni, is there a concerted effort to change or alter the strategy of how the and of course this prosecution was signed off by multiple president is perceived absence people. this wasn't an obama administration thing as the
an empathy injection, how he talks about this balance between president said. it was signed off by career line the economy and this growing attorneys. death toll? it was signed off by trump's own guy, the deputy attorney >> there sure is. general, rod rosenstein. and another thing, you know, the president has made clear from and of course it was signed off the beginning of this that he's on by a federal judge. eager to reopen. remember, his first bid at this and so this is incredibly corrosive language by the was that we'd reopen by easter. attorney general and the president, and i can't think of and part of that is because something more devastating really to the rule of law. i mean today is rock bottom when coloring everything right now is it comes to trump and our his understanding that in six constitution. >> frank, does it surprise you months he's up for re-election, that our a.g. is behind this, or are you no longer surprised by and the economy -- he has a much this kind of supplication, and is this the kind of thing an fbi director would resign over? better shot at winning re-election if the economy bounces back. >> yeah. but weighing that is another so, no, i am not surprised any longer. critical voting bloc, which is this has been signaled for a seniors, the most vulnerable long time. population to this pandemic, who many of us thought it was either going to come in the form of a pardon or even worse, request have been scared at what they're hearing from the president in these coronavirus briefings and are scared that reopening the economy too soon could literally cost them their lives. for dismissal. so that's another -- and polls the fact that it came as a are showing that a lot of people dismissal means the a.g. is are scared of reopening too totally wrapped up in this early. thing. so the white house has been trying to -- you know, they branded may to be old -- i think
it's old people's month. and more is coming. more is coming because it's been signaled through the durham investigation, even through the they are trying to highlight president's responses today. initiatives and policy proposals that the president has backed well, i hope that people are held accountable. what does that mean? that help seniors, restrictions held accountable for what? on visitors at nursing homes, trying to get their job done and his vow to not cut entitlement determine whether the national programs. security adviser to the these are things they're trying to highlight to show if he president was or was not a continuing threat to our doesn't have the "i feel your country. that's where we are. it's going to continue, and it's pain" oratorical skills, that he going to run right up into the election. >> neal katyal, i have seconds left. what does a federal judge like this do? no one needs to tell you this judge is no shrinking violet. is there for seniors who are scared for their lives. there is an effort to show that in other ways going on right >> yeah, the federal judge has now. >> and peter baker, journalists are fond of calling the attorney three options available to him, general in this country -- we always have -- the chief law all of them very powerful. enforcement officer in the federal government. one, he can inquire into how these career prosecutors all resigned moments before the what does this attempt to drop flynn decision. that's what happened last year the flynn case say about an when the trump administration attorney general apparently was caught lying to them about entirely serving in service to the census by the supreme court the president? and the attorneys tried to withdraw. the federal judge ordered an investigation. that can happen here. second, the federal rules don't allow attorney general barr to
>> well, once again we're in a just drop the prosecution. position where everything is through the lens that you start the court has to agree. from, right? if you're a supporter of trump, if you're an ally of trump, what and so the court can inquire you see is an attorney general into all the things that frank righting the wrongs of the past, you know, checking the was talking about, all the justice department rationales corruption of the previous administrators of law and inquire about them in open court. enforcement in this country. if you're the part of the and lastly, the justice country that doesn't trust president trump, what you've department is seeking not just seen is a president publicly and repeatedly berating and badgering and demanding that his justice department exonerate his to bar flynn's prosecution now but for all time, to dismiss former aide. without -- with prejudice. and the judge has the option and now they've gone and done that. available of saying, look, i'll so, you know, what you're left with is a situation where the listen to. idea of a neutral, independent, i'll dismiss these charges. and trustworthy law enforcement, but in a new administration with a new real justice department, you know, establishment in this country is basically, you know, out the window. one that actually cares about both sides see the justice the rule of law instead of department now and the fbi as protecting trump's friends, you can expect this prosecution to political weapons, whether it be continue. >> interesting times. our thanks to two friends of against trump or for trump. this broadcast, frank figliuzzi, and it loses credibility on any neal katyal, appreciate it greatly. coming up for us, arrests decision they make, no matter tonight in a case that has sparked growing national how justified or unjustified it may be. we'll see what this judge does. outrage. judge sullivan has expressed a white father and son have been
skepticism of mike flynn, as you charged with murder for killing pointed out, and his defense a young black man who would have previously. turned 26 years of age less than an hour from now. he's not obligated to accept the bryan stevenson of the equal justice initiative is with us live after this. justice department's motion to dismiss. - when i noticed but the justice department made the point in its motion today that they thought the judge didn't have a lot of latitude and they had to accept their view on it. we'll see if he agrees. >> yes, we shall see indeed. steph ruhle, the question no one really wants to hear the alost, how many of them by percentage are really coming back? >> brian, it's too soon to tell. something that's really important to think about with regard to reopening, yes, it's business. yes, it's in government. but it's also consumers. it's everyday americans. earlier today i sat down with the president of walmart usa. so think about it. this is the biggest retailer that has been open this entire time. but we're all trying to figure out how to do it. and i asked him, what's the number one thing all of those associates are saying? what is their top concern? and here's what's disturbing. their top concern is that
customers start adhering to the social distancing rules and the new guidelines. so that's their fear, that people in certain regions in the country aren't wearing masks, aren't respecting these guidelines, and in turn could make all of those workers get sick. so it's very concerning when the president, when the vice president aren't following these rules themselves and aren't wearing the masks. so, yes, everyone wants to go back to these jobs. we want things to get back to where they were. but unless we start all practicing these new guidelines, it's going to hurt businesses. it's going to hurt individuals. it's going to hurt all of us. so it's not a matter of how many jobs are coming back. it's how are we going to conduct ourselves collectively, and if we do it together, we've got the best shot. and right now think about it. you're seeing hyperpartisanship in every element of this, and you shouldn't see that in the middle of a pandemic. it's only going to worsen things economically. >> and all we really know is it's going to look worse at this
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- we were so relieved to learn there are treatments for td. - learn more at talkabouttd.com. there's breaking news tonight out of the american south. calls for arrests in the shooting death of an unarmed 25-year-old black men have been heeded. two men are now charged with murder after a video surfaced this week showing how ahmaud arbery's death transpired back in february. arbery's family says he was out for a jog when he was confronted by two white men in a pickup truck. according to the police report, gregory mcmichael, a former police officer, he and his son were chasing a man they believed to have been breaking into houses. a prosecutor who has since recused himself from the case said the men were trying to execute a citizen's arrest and that they acted in self-defense when arbery grabbed their gun. the video recorded by a civilian nearby is disturbing.
[ sound of gunfire ] >> that's where it ended right there in the street. arbery was not armed. he was killed. he would have turned 26 years of age at midnight tonight. we should point out we do not know what happened before the video was taken. gregory and travis mcmichael were booked into the glynn county jail. with us to talk about all of it, we welcome to the broadcast bryan stevenson, executive editor of the equal justice initiative, a human rights organization based in montgomery, alabama. his book, which is his story, called "just mercy" was made into a feature film.
it is his nonprofit behind the national memorial for peace and justice, a monument dedicated to victims of lynching and white supremacy. and i can say having visited, it is among the most powerful, solemn, and deeply moving monuments and museums in all of our country. he's also professor of criminal justice at nyu law. it's an honor to have you on, bryan. let's start with a very basic definition. what is a lynching as your organization has come to define it? >> well, a lynching is a racially motivated act of violence committed by two or more people where there is no accountability, an act of violence where there's impunity. and in many ways i'm not sure labeling contemporary acts as lynchings is very helpful because we had lynchings throughout this country in the 20th century and nobody did anything about them. that label didn't actually motivate us to be responsive. i think what's tragic about this we have basically as a country said we've given up on incident is that we now have an
containment. we've given up trying to contain understanding of what's this virus, and now we're just going to live with it and see appropriate and what's inappropriate, and it was clear what happens when it spreads that this violence perpetrated throughout our country. >> dr. wen is right. against this young man, who was it may seem like we've given up on containment, especially after the white house press secretary hunted by these men and ends up dead on the street, was a called the idea of mass testing nonsensical. criminal act that should have but now that the president's been prosecuted as a criminal act. valet has tested positive, that and it's encouraging tonight puts coronavirus inside the that they've been arrested, but white house residence, inside the president's circle. it's so deeply disturbing that the administration is taking we're still living in a nation with these kinds of acts of testing there quite seriously now. violence can go unpunished and back with us again tonight, there's such a desperate effort dr. irwin redlener, a pediatrics physician, clinical professor to look for ways to not hold with the school of public health people accountable when young up at columbia university in new black men are shot and killed. >> here's the question i hate to york. also the director of columbia's national center for disaster ask. preparedness with an expertise in this kind of thing. what happens in this case if doctor, i ask this as a there's no video camera there to taxpayer. report it? where is the cdc? >> well, tragically i think that and if they have decided to be only in service to this it becomes much harder. president and his wishes, why can't they have an internal there's a presumption of pact, the kind of thing we all dangerousness and guilt that learn in high school team gets assigned to black and brown people. sports, the kind of thing and it's almost as if the burden is on the person of color to everyone in the military learns, next man or woman up? someone step up in management prove that their victimization is legitimate, that they haven't done something wrong.
and be honest with the american people because they're worried and one of the great challenges about this disease. we have in this nation, brian, if you get fired, you probably is we have a narrative that get hired by big pharma the next still haunts us. day. i mean we forget that black next man or woman up behind you to speak the truth because we people were enslaved for 2 1/2 lost 2,100 people in this centuries and to justify the country today. >> yes, brian. brutal abuse and mistreatment of it's really quite extraordinary, black americans, we created this and i think for those of us who myth that black people are know a lot of these officials dangerous, that they're like dr. fauci, it's very presumptively guilty. difficult at this point to we ended chattel slavery, but we imagine how he stays there and didn't end that narrative, and we went from calling black people slaves to calling black people criminals. and at the end of the 19th century, we used convict leasing doesn't, you know, call a press and these strategies to criminalize black people. and throughout the 20th century, that turned into lynchings and terror and violence, and it's so conference tomorrow morning and traumatizing. i mean this story is every black parent's nightmare, that you say, this is enough is enough. have to worry about your this is craziness. children when they're out we're endangering too many of jogging, when they're trying to our fellow citizens. to worry that they might be shot and killed and no one will do anything. we cannot have that. and i think one of the great tragedies we have yet to for some reason, the president encounter is how we recover from seems to cast a spell over the all of the damage that has been
done by these narratives. people that work on him or black people fled the american they're terrified. south throughout the first half of the 20th century. 6 million people fled i just don't understand it. traumatized by violence and terror. but, brian, i think the point we codified segregation. you're making is very well you know, i'm not 100 years old, taken. but when i was born, a black now we see really the height of hypocrisy for the president to person couldn't marry a white person because a black person be furious about somebody was deemed inadequate. testing positive near him, and i couldn't go to school with white kids. now he's getting his own tests i started my education in a every day, which is exactly what racially segregated school. we didn't trust black main street america needs. 5-year-olds to be with white they need that -- what he's 5-year-olds. asking for for himself. it's pretty extraordinary stuff, and that narrative, that myth and i had a great conversation continues to haunt us. with two georgia mayors just the we've made a lot of progress, other day, and they just were but it doesn't matter whether you're educated. livid. it doesn't matter whether you're >> i understand you and an athlete. it doesn't matter whether you're dr. joseph fair have written a a news commentator. it doesn't matter whether you're letter for businesses with a teacher. reopening guidelines. if you're black or brown, you and learning of this reinforces will go places in this country where you're going to have to me how much responsibility is navigate a presumption of on these governors really. dangerousness and guilt and this also learning about your letter, is an example of why it's so it strikes me it's the kind of terrifying and why it's critical letter in past generations we we do better to confront our history. would have seen go out with government letterhead. >> bryan stevenson has agreed to >> yes. stay with us just over this yes, of course we would have. break. when we come back, we'll talk but it hasn't. and, you know, brian kemp, the about the intersection of race
governor of georgia, was the first to institute this sort of and class and socioeconomics relaxation of restrictions and generally when it comes to fighting a pandemic in this country. sort of let's get back to work. and the governor of atlanta, plans can be confusing, governor -- sorry, the mayor of atlanta, mayor bottoms, said to confusing like, "why am i sitting here in a me she was stunned. she's looking down the streets hospital gown waiting to get my eyes checked?" in atlanta and seeing people ready? without face coverings. they're too close to one absolutely not. another, walking in and out of see, having the wrong coverage can mean you get shops and restaurants. it's just incredible. and the mayor of augusta, mayor the wrong care, or you're paying more than you have to. that's why i love healthmarkets, davis told me it was basically a your insurance marketplace. train wreck. the problem with this too, brian, is it's not just a matter they make sure you have the right coverage, of policy differences. health insurance, medicare, this is as literal as you can and yes, dental too. get about putting lives at risk. wow, think that's painful? wait 'til he gets the bill. a cavity can cost as much as $350 and a root canal, whoa. you know, you look at the data, and we're not really leveling off significantly even. but with healthmarkets, for less than a dollar and we're still talking about a day, you can save a bundle every time going back to work. 30 other states are talking about it as well. i think somebody needs to step up. you go to the dentist. exams, cleanings, and x-rays, those are covered at 100%. let me just say this directly to my colleagues in public health in the federal government. that sounds free to me. do what brian williams just plus healthmarkets has plans with coverage for said. it's got to be one person after fillings, crowns, dentures, another standing up to this even root canals. president and speaking the truth to american people. with over 200,000 dental providers to choose from,
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when every connection counts, you can count on us. get the connectivity your business needs. call today. comcast business. it should surprise no one who's been paying attention that communities of color have been hit hardest by the coronavirus. "the washington post" reporting just this week, quote, disproportionately black counties account for over half the coronavirus cases in our country and nearly 60% o deaths. bryan stevenson is our guest. he remains with us. bryan, tell me that i'm wrong, that unless you have the good fortune of living in a place -- l.a. county comes to mind, jersey city comes to mind -- where the mayor has said, no, we're going to test everybody. we're not going to be done until
we test everybody, that getting a test in this country is entirely up to your zip code and how much money you have. >> i wish i could say you're wrong, but you're absolutely right. i'm here in the state of alabama. you know, the county with the second highest rate of infections per capita is the county near me, lowndes county. it's a majority black county. when you look at the number of tests that have been conducted in that county, the more affluent counties where the rates of infection are much lower, it tells a really painful story. we are not providing services to poor rural communities and black communities like we need to, and that is contributing to these disparities that we're seeing in the death rate. and it just is so painful because we have a habit in our country to ignore the victimization of black and brown people, and it plays out even when we're all trying to deal with this pandemic. and i just think there's so much that has to be done to get us to start thinking in a more appropriate way about how we intervene.
at the beginning of the century, the bureau of justice reported that one in three black male babies in this country is expected to go to jail or prison. you would expect that would generate a lot of political discourse, a lot of organizing at academy communities and health officials would be thinking about how do we disrupt this kind of crisis. and no one said anything. and when you have that kind of pattern and a pandemic hits, you see what we're seeing, which is this incredibly burdensome impact on communities of color. >> and do you see anything about our country that tells you that when this is done, when we've got 8 billion doses of a vaccine and this is over, we're going to go back and apply best practices and lessons learned and look at what we need to fix about our system? >> not without a radical rethinking about what we owe to people who are the most vulnerable. i mean if we created a health care intervention that was based on vulnerability and need, then, yes, we might see that kind of response, brian.
but i still worry that our habit and our tendency is to prioritize those who are affluent, those who are privileged, and that's going to mean that we're going to see the next wave of this pandemic again disproportionately impacting the poor and communities of color. i work in a criminal justice system that treats you better if you're rich and guilty than if you're poor and innocent. and now in the midst of this health care crisis, we're seeing the same phenomenon where the poor and sick get less care than the affluent and healthy. and that has to change if we're going to do better at controlling these kinds of crises. it's heartbreaking to see what i'm seeing right now in america. >> bryan stevenson, as i said at the start of our interview, it's an honor to have you on. thank you very much for sharing part of your time tonight with us on this night of all nights and this story. coming up for us, we hope our teachers know how much they're appreciated. today just to make sure, they heard it from the top.
last thing before we go tonight is a celebration of teachers during this national teacher appreciation week. and what a tough time for our teachers, say nothing of the students they love and care for and form into better humans. forcing a teacher to stay out of the classroom, it's like putting a race car in the garage, like a fish out of water. quite simply it goes against their life's work. so a thank-you for their work during this covid and zoom era. teachers in chicago got a surprise from a famous chicagoan whose very appearance on the screen reminded us in an instant of -- let's just call it a different time in our country. >> hi, jalayne. >> hi. >> how are you? >> i'm good. >> it is national teacher appreciation week. >> i am overjoyed, overwhelmed.
i am almost speechless. >> oh, my god. i'm beyond excited. i'm -- i think i'm trembling now. >> great teachers in a lot of ways put as big of an imprint on their kid as anybody. >> my kids are incredibly resilient. i am moved to tears on a regular basis. >> we just dearly miss having our kids in front of us. >> so when it first happened, i was so concerned about devices, i even went to my school and volunteered the first two weeks. i was passing out the chromebooks. >> what i've tried to do is just transmit my class as much as possible into the remote environment because our class is so powerful in the interaction. >> if i ever get too down and out, i'm going to have to tune in to you so that i can gear back up. >> you would be an honored guest in my class at any point. >> the passion shows. the time and effort. >> what a beautiful message you're sending to me, and it's so well received. thank you. >> and of course a question came up about the michael jordan
documentary "the last dance," in which former chicago resident barack obama is featured. >> are you watching "last dance"? >> i am. >> oh, my god, yeah. >> i'm -- i am reliving because, you know, you and i must be, you know, close to the same age. >> yes. >> so i'm -- i'm on a nostalgia trip back there. >> the 44th president of the united states to play us off the air tonight. that is our broadcast for this thursday evening. on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters.
if the justice department drops the case against former security adviser michael flynn. also, one of the president's personal valets tests positive for the coronavirus. the valet serves the president his meals among other duties. and authorities in georgia say a father and son have been arrested for the murder of ahmaud arbery, a 25-year-old man