menendez tonight, we are barrelin towards one of the mos consequential weeks fo abortion access since the farr of roe v. wade the government has less than a week to intervene after trum appointed antiabortion federal judge in texas matthew has merrick suspended a proven o mifepristone, one of the mos widely used abortion medications in this country. the justice department immediately filed an appea today. health and human services -- said - for the millions who need it >> well, they certainly have access today and we intend to do everything to make sure it is because o viewable to them not just in a week but moving forward. we have already filed an appea of this court's ruling one judge and one quarter an one state turned upside down the fda's approval process for safe and effective medications we have to go to court and see an appeal. this is not america. what we saw by that one judg in that one court in that on state. that is not america. >> adding to the uncertainty and to the confusion, federa judge in washington stat issued a conflicting rulin friday ordering the fda to keep the drug available in 17 states an washington, d.c. the dueling decisions -- directly to the supreme court. setting up the most contentiou fight over reproductive care since last - that reversed row. here's how mark joseph sti pitch -- why this is a moment of trut to the supreme court quote, they do not put a sto to cause merrick's madness they will show the country tha their goal is not to leave abortion up to the democrati process, but to use every tool in their power to outlaw abortion in every state. kicking us off tonight, msnb contributor mick bliss murray. she is a - of law and faculty director -- at nyu melissa, what would it loo like for the supreme court t take up the abortion cases and how soon could that happen >> well, alicia, i think thi is on a staff rocker to th supreme court. i think there's no way thi couldn't go to the supreme court eventually right now, judge kacsmaryk's ruling it has been an appeal t the fifth circuit. it is a famously conservativ court. but that court doesn't actuall have to do anything. judge has merrick issued a seven-day stay, so it is seven days before his state actually goes into effect the circuit just sit on this for seven days, and that would really put this in the questio of whether it goes to th supreme court. i think the fda would have t seek approval at the supreme court. they could ask for - which this happened before basically get the supreme cour to take this up to resolve a conflict between the washingto injunction and this toxic' decision again issued by a single judge in texas. but nationwide decision that would basically imperil all of mississippi are ston accessibility across the country. >> composition of this court - for justice kavanaugh to mak good on what he said - that his decision was rooted i constitutional principle what would you be looking ou for if portion access is decided by this court? >> well, again, i think you se it up beautifully. this case really gives the court the opportunity to sho the american public whethe they were serious abou returning the abortion questio to the democratic process or whether this is what the antiabortion movement ha always said it was - merely a weigh station on th road to fetal -- abolition of abortion in the united states. this is the decision from on judge that would have th impact of eliminating abortion access even in states where it is currently legal this is not the state by state settlement that drops reported to the offer, and i will b looking, not only a justic kavanaugh, but justice toledo, who can't that decision, sayin that this was merely destroyin this to the -- democratic process this is the antithesis o democracy. >> i pointed out this ruling, read it in full and cast merrick was really insistent o using the term unborn huma instead of fetuses he embraces the idea of feta personhood i want to read a tweet that yo flag for me. this is from americans unite for life that tweet says, restoring the constitutional right to life for the pre-born has been th entire point of the pro-life movement since roe no human being can except be excluded from the circle o humanity or the equa protection of the law. i mean, melissa, they are no even trying to hide what the are doing. tell me about why that matters for the national fight for abortion access and for wome across this country. >> again, alicia, this shows immediately the lie that dobbs -- restoring this to the people i their states to determine fo themselves what their position on abortion would be on a stat by state basis that cannot be the outcome it is absolutely an incoherent outcome, if you are someone wh opposes abortion, if you oppos but portion and believe that i is tantamount burner, yo cannot be okay with blue state allowing it. the only coherent response t abortion is the complete and total abolition of it. so the dobbs opinion is merely an s the sizing us to th prospect of the slow and incremental removal of all abortion accessibility in that eight states we are seeing that movin quickly to its outcome we saw the is last week when there was that case filed in texas about the wrongful death for termination of pregnancy again, the idea that onl persons get to have long ful death suits. again, acquitting the fetu with a person. and now a black and white in the pages of the united states federal supplement reporter, that this judge is telling u where this is going. this is moving toward feta personhood it is the only place it can go unless there is a response fro the people >> melissa you, talk about wha is happening in texas and in washington state you talk about what is happening and idaho. you talk about what is happening in at tennessee in the effect of gerrymandering which you have often flagged for us in the theoretica context that you can see pla out in realtime. all that goes back to th supreme court. you've made that point over an over again last year pulling down the trust in the supreme court at historic low last year you had republic issuing an explosive report on justice thomas's trips paid fo by a conservative bill lio air. -- for thomas might look like and what that might mean in term of the sanctity of - >> wealth, the real person w should be asking that question to his john g. roberts, th chief justice of the unite states what does the court plan to do about this rogue member of the court who is repeatedly defyin the basic ethics principle that most lawyers would observ as a matter of course. he refused to accuse himself - his wife is likely to be implicated and now we have learned that he is accepting 500,000 dollar luxury trips to indonesia and other places i mean, this is well beyond th pale the supreme court only answers to itself. it does not get regulated by any other -- eye where do we put our trust? certainly not in this court, i doesn't seem to have any interest in policing itself or even maintaining the objects o being above board and no partisan >> lisa marie, if you are up t me, this entire show would be recitation of your tweet threats. thank you so much for bringing your expertise and analysis to us every weekend i appreciate you i want to bring in democrati congressman -- she's also a civil rights an criminal defense attorney, which i've been thinking about a lot, congresswoman, as i hav heard you breaking down over and over again what is happening legally with abortio in this country. i want to play some sound from vice president harris. this is on abortion access take a listen. >> there is no question that the president and i are goin to stand with the women of america and do everything we can to ensure that women hav the ability to make decision about their health care, their reproductive health care in manner that is what they nee and they decide that, not thei government >> of course, you sent a lette to president biden urging th administration to preserve fda approval for mifepristone an access to a nationwide you have 40 other housto signed on to it. talk to us about what the bide administration needs to do - >> yes, absolutely so first of all, happy easter. it is interesting that all o this came up on good friday, but i will leave that fo another day. as it relates to the administration, i want to make sure that they are - becerra, we made to make sur that we are all in and we ar doing everything we can to - that if the fda is protected a an agency, making sure that we are having the appropriate conversations with every singl portion of the federal government, with our v hospitals, doing the creativ things that out of the box things to make sure that thi access is available despit what this decision says. we know that the united states post office falls under ou purview as well. it isn't followed or the purview of a state, right? so making sure that we are using every single tool in the tool box, even those tools tha were in the back and hidden it way that we didn't realize we're sitting there, we need t use them we need to pull all l that right. now >> as is the case with three branches of th government, he is calling, you calling on him and president biden is calling on congress t restore the protections of roe v. wade. i just wonder as you talk to your colleagues on the hill, your sense of appetite for that. how that might play out. >> yeah, right before we entered this two week break, w actually had a press conferenc and it was the reintroductio of the women's health care act so, yeah, we are trying to pus forward, but we also know that unfortunately we, have a speaker by the name of mccarth right now. we know that he controls wha actually makes it to the floor and so, as you were talkin about just a minute ago -- and the fact that we hav eroded voting rights ultimately, and i say we, i say those that have been in charge of erode away at our voting rights. we know that we don't have the protections that we need under the voting rights act. it has allowed rogue state such as tennessee, such as texas, to really draw and chea themselves into power. so unfortunately, we don't hav the power that we need because we didn't have the legislation that we need and s really, right now, it feel like a chicken and an egg but personally believe in th resilience of the people specifically the young people, the young people are rising up in record numbers. we saw in wisconsin and so i absolutely believe that th republicans have not won their lesson, they were supposed t have a red wave that turne into a red triple and that i simply because they absolutely have decided that they are onl going after certain voters and i think, not think, i know tha the majority of this country i on our side. majority of our countr believes in common sense options, believes in commo sense access to abortion care, and so i think that they are really putting themselves in a bad situation, even though the cheated to get the seats tha they currently have. i absolutely believe that they are going to feel the wrath of the people soon enough >> a generational piece is s important, later in the show i'll be talking to young peopl from tennessee but the wor that they are doing there. i'm going to ask you though, for you can go - he says he is seeking th pardon of an uber driver who i convicted last week of a murde in the july 2020 death of a ma at a black lives matter protes in austin. there has not been a request b the pearl board to do that a this time. your thoughts. talk me through this >> there are no thoughts i mean, alicia, this is what w are dealing with this in the country. this is why you ended up havin a black lives matter protest i the first place. this is why black people hav to say that black lives matter because, for whatever reason they is seemingly a differen set of rules that applies, seemingly, republicans do no believe in being hard on crime when it comes to certain folk. seemingly, they only want to b hard and crime when they are poor, when they are black, whe they are brown but when you look at a donal trump, they're like listen, he doesn't even need to go into jail donald trump didn't even get a real perp walk we know that there are so many crimes that are being committe by the one percenters, committed by those that ar political figures, and yet somehow we always find a excuse and a reason to wiggl out. in the state of texas, normall you are not even given acces to a pardon until you have served your sentence so for our governor to be so robe as to make the statemen before this gentleman' actually even started serving sentence, because i ca guarantee you, he has not been transported to td c.j. at this point in time. this is problematic. but this is more symptomatic o what is going wrong in thi country. and this is exactly why people are starting to recognize that you have to do everything yo can because you never know whe it is going to be your time on the chopping block we have more in common than we do not have in common when i comes to whether you are black whether it comes down to whether you are lgbtqia, o whether you are a woman who is seeking full access to healt care we are all united against this rogue front that we ar injuring from the far-righ extremists >> texas commerce wome jettisoned crockett, thank you for making sure we saw the big picture. thanks for starting us off we are just getting starte here on american voices. -- robert garcia, the homeless -- that classified informatio about ukraine somehow leaked from the pentagon. plus, donald trump's attorne general and what is former bos should be most worried about that is nothing to do with the new york indictment the former president. you're going to hear from tw of the tennessee students, t american voices helped organiz the gun violence protest - 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>> i think there's going to be to lesson, certainly, there wil be some briefings pretty soon. i would not be surprised i this makes it to some of our committees, particularly o oversight. i think as some o this sits on national security subcommittee of oversight, it' very concerning. i think the key question i have is, why wa the information leaked? and wh is the information being tampered with unchanged, possibly, to fit a certain narrative? i think that's what very concerning. especiall when there is such an effort t try to weaken our resolve an our support for ukraine. mor broadly, i think the doj i also very interested in th other damage that's happenin in our relationship with other countries. this is not just an issue around ukrainian our efforts there. this informatio is linked around china, israel efforts happening in tha country. we've seen a lot of - the broader issue is also trus with our allies. the broader issue is ensuring that the information being put out ther is verified. that we are als securing our forces on the ground, that we are making sur our allies are reassured. most importantly, that we are not causing any sort of damage t our efforts in ukraine particularly the ukrainian people. i think that's the key thing that we are all focuse on right now, making sure an that effort continues to b supported and is successful. > congressman, i want to ask you about lgbtq rights and issue that continue to be front an center in the united states, you have a group that is tryin to take those rights away to move us backwards. he recently introduced legislation tha would direct the state department to respond to anti-lgbtq incidents abroad. tell us about that. why now? how are we hoping that legislation helps? not only th lgbtq community abroad but als here at home. >> thank you we've got a fight on fight o two fronts. one is -- global we see what's happening across the world with the rolling bac of rights for lgbt plus people -- that's why we introduced th act -- and codified language a the state department and promotes global human rights and provides an ambassador level special envoy on thi very issue. that's ver critical as we are seeing thes rights being rolled back acros the world. it's also a relationship in this country there are over 450 anti lgbt laws right now proposed in state legislatures across this country. republicans especiall folks like marjorie taylor greene and others in the caucus, are constantly attacking trans people, the community, the broader gay rights movement. i was just with a group of lgbtq leaders back home in california. and they all agree unanimously that they feel les safe today than they did ten o 20 years ago. and there is a attack happening right now i this country by extremists. it should be very concerning. which is why we have to work both globally and here at home >> i agree with you on that. when i saw someone tweeting ou that luverne cox on time magazine reminded us that it actually would be more controversial today than it wa ten years ago. congressman garcia, as always, thank you s much for your time. next, an use that broke here on america voices just last night. th senate will investigate justic clarence thomas for gifts he admits received well-known republican mega donor. what hi accountability will look like. and later, the battle fo democracy in tennessee, th fight for gun safety issues, deeply connected to students from tennessee will explain. from tennessee will explain. ♪ ♪ ♪ sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. meet the outdoorsies. wayfair's outdoor deal experts. i'm a big advocate of the gardener... goes to wayfair for gardening basics that... aren't so basic. the entertainer... her place might look expensive. don't let it fool you. and me, the lounger... i get just what i need with a tap on the wayfair app. get outdoorsy for way less at wayfair. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ why are 93% of sleep number sleepers very satisfied with their bed? 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they were desperately searchin for the perfect lawyer, an that times were framed as search for another roy cohn. i wonder what that tells you about the trump's defense team about his confidence in hi defense team, just this idea o a perfect lawyer for a perso who notoriously does not liste to his lawyers >> i think this gives us som insight into the sense of feeling of being besieged and feeling of the walls closing i for a former president trump and for people in his orbit. it is not just the da's case i new york, it is not just the fulton county case, it is also a special counsel. i mean, this is, in some ways, a perfect storm of legal jeopardy that the former president faces. and these cases are proceeding quickly. and if the reports coming out, both in fulton county, and als trickling out in small waves some of the special counsel an the justice department's cas of the documents are to be believed, the evidence is quit convincing, the evidence i voluminous in all of these cases, - looking for roy cohn, he i looking for someone who ca play during the, he's lookin for someone who can mix it u in behind the scenes, is not a vote of confidence in his team now. it is certainly finding some worries that he is not going t come out well in any of thes cases. >> they are just so many thing i wanted out there is one, this idea that the evidence here is voluminous the fact that we have become s accustomed to all of this that you want to sort of take a moment back, step back and think about that you have onetime trump loyalist sayin well, that cased is not th even biggest case because ther is this other case which actually think is going to b the want to do him in. the fact that we are talking about multiple investigations, and this guy still talking about running for president. i mean, political was the firs to report that trump i actively working to woo ro desantis's donors. i just wonder, legally politically, what is it you ar going to be watching for thi week >> yeah, i think politically what has been very clear i that republicans are not running away from donald trump because it doesn't seem like - he is actually stronger. you see someone of desantis' numbers go down, donald trump' numbers go up. then that tells you a lot abou the republican party as it stands right now they are closing in around him in a protected manner and -- politically. legally there is nothing - because, my it was just said b andy, this case in georgia that is one that his team ha talked about and been very nervous about, but also th special counsel, the forme tenure general said that is on that i have been publicly, tha really we wouldn't have know anything about until the trump family is started talking abou it and tweeting about it and going on tv and tellin everybody what was going on, and then it has been, that evidence is very clear that it seemed like -- the lawyers that donald trum in that case, that is somethin that his this team is very worried about. in the search for roy cohn this is something that you'v been talking about for a ver long time. maga - is that -- and someone that was going t go forward and - for very long time and he is something that on hi team, he wants to see people out to be tough. that is once of those things when, he says like this, t test to seem to see if the will rise to the occasion different way. >> i want to turn to the new allegations against justic thomas i know it wasn't your byline but talk me throug propublica's investigation trump implications it has ou four nation's highest court an what you are hearing about wha investigations here will loo like >> this story by my colleagues was the product of months of reporting. i mean, talking t dozens of people, digging in places that no one else wa digging, to uncover a stor that i think really sort o shook our political an judicial system, which is that clarence thomas seems to hav flouted, ignored at the ethics rules governing supreme courts for decades, accepting fre trips on a billionaire republican donors yacht, going on luxury vacations, flying on a private jet. the revelations here, i think, are standing. the underscore that the suprem court does not have a mechanis for enforcing th anti-corruption transparency accountability laws on the books. those laws themselves are, it seems to be, quite underwhelming and not up to th task of ensuring that th public remains trustful, tha it has faith in the highes court in the land. accountability could look like a lot of things, it could look like justice thomas going back and revising these annua disclosures he is supposed t make and disclosing these trips, these free transportation perk he's accepted. it could also look like stronger, better unforced ethics guidelines ethics laws that the supreme court itself could put int place, or that lawmakers i congress could put into plac as well. that much is clear. what's on the books now is not strong enough, it's not nearly clear enough. it's not enforceable enough to preven these kinds of things from happening. >> eugene, i've onl got about 30 seconds. left i'v got to ask, what struck me her is that justice thomas doesn't normally issue publi statements. why did he respond to these allegations? >> i became clear very quickly that this is something they could not ignore because of how much evidence was in that repor from propublica. this ha happened before. he's ha ethics scandals issues in th past and it's one of those things where he and his wife and his family have been in th news for a very long time over the last couple of years. this is one of the big ones tha they couldn't ignore. >> eugene, andy, i'm so grateful to bot of you for joining us to eugene, i want to tell you, we took bets on what colo turtleneck and blazer you woul be wearing -- >> who won? >> i'm a little disappointed that i said maybe check yellow an you are not yet in your spring finest. next weekend. thank yo both. i had, the political shock wave in tennessee caused by teens who dared to speak ou against gun violence. two of those students told american voices are going to help us pu the focus on that issue next but first, proof you bette never mess with a mom. the incredible ukrainian women who sockets taken by russia an stop that nothing to get the back. ♪ ♪ ♪ age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ hey, man. nice pace! clearly, you're a safe driver. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! 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>> i think it says something that we have known for a lon time, which is that th lawmakers are scared of th power of the vote. these people have shown up and -- youth voices, not only did w organize last week, we have ha almost 11 days of continuous action at the capitol. and we actually sat in for 1 hours during their expulsion because these lawmakers ar trying to silence is s thoroughly and we won't stand for that. we are making clear that we ar with not only these three, but with the entire community that they are attempting to silence >> i don't need to tell yo this, these expulsions hav garnered national attention, all eyes are on tennessee an there are a lot of analysts wh are not from tennessee, of tennessee, do not live i tennessee, who say that this could be the beginning of political shift. a political earthquake and it could be generational is that what it feels like o the ground there >> i think it definitely feels like that on the ground. i have lived in nashville fo 17 years, what my family i from tennessee and the way that i am seeing people respond to this i unlike anything i've ever seen out of tennessee people are really shifting how they think, not just about the issue of guns but also about the republican politics behind them and the power that has com behind the youth movement have been so inspiring. yesterday me and as re-hel some highschoolers set up march right in front of thei legislative -- kids go to the same high schoo that my mom works high and are really conservative -- standup made me think that thi is not just a moment, but it i the start of a movement. >> as we, i am sure you have seen this data it is absolutely does th stating. it shows the number of childre and teens killed by guns ros 50% between 2019 and 2021. yesterday, march for our lives founder david howell responded to those stats, tweeting quote it is not teachers making kids liberal, it is the fact that republicans have failed to protect an entire generation and kids live in constant fear of being slaughtered in thei schools. i wonder what action do yo want your state lawmakers an your federal lawmakers to take to better protect your community and your generation. and listen it, is a few year between being a young person who is in school and being m and having kids who you ar sending into those schools it is a blip in your life an change has to happen very fast in order to close that gap what is it you want to see formula makers >> absolutely. we have known that gun violenc has been the leading cause o death for the young people - for years now, and we've bee calling for this it is breaker than just school shootings, which absolutel galvanized a nation and it i something we all are afraid of but it is every day gu violence that is killing you kids to. so just like you said, i impacts every single community member and every singl american, kids are scared of losing their lives and kids ar losing their lives, but we als have parents and community members that are grieving loss of these children so what we can say is clear, we have clea solutions and common sense gun solutions but also solutions that - holistically, that and this gu violence epidemic, this is a uniquely american issue in there's a way that we can solv that we've been calling for these solutions for decades. we are calling for lawmakers and their culture wars and instead focus on the war of gu violence that is killing peopl every single day >> ezri, i want to thank you for what you just said there it is a point that often get lost in this conversation, which is part of what we are talking about, of course, ar these mass shootings but to the point you made, i is also every day gun violence that drives these numbers. i want to ask, brynn, you've polling showing that america dissatisfaction with gun law is at an all-time high 63% are dissatisfied if that is the poll then why d republican lawmakers seem so misaligned with the will of th american people? >> that is such a great point, and i think it really speaks t what just happened in tennessee. we had our lawmakers that were advocating for what they wer screaming outside of the courthouse, for days, with thousands of people there. and they were forcin legislatures to hear those voices that they didn't want t hear over 90% of american support universal background checks an we have seen no movements on that and i think that it points t the fact that what happened on monday isn't just about th backsliding of democratic norm in tennessee, it is about th willful -- of republicans - safe >> brynn, ezri, i have to say, i reminded over and over again about the point that david hague and others are making -- law you a new generation for being brave and -- incumbent upon you - figured it out by. now ezri and brian, thank yo so much for your time. and thank you responding par of your sunday with us i am alicia menendez, i will see you here next weekend fo more american voices we've stripped all over this mountain. i love it when he strips for me. i strip on sick days. breathe right instantly relieves nighttime nasal congestion. daytime, too. helping you breathe easier for up to 12 hours. breathe right. strip on. my most important kitchen tool? 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