A look at the latest news and headlines of the day features discussions of politics and culture, analysis of political correctness in Campus Craziness and... be intimidated into accepting your fraudulent promise. it w often works and that's exactly why they do it but it only works when the rest of us play alongng with it so let's sp playing along with it. so, can you explain to me why if it's wrong to meet with russians in the hope of getting dirt on your political opponent, it's okay to pay for a national toor get dirt from russians about your political opponents which the dnc in the hillary campaign both did? >> it's very different for a campaign to spend money to do opposition research in a foreign country then for a foreign government like the russians to actually invest in disarming our election security to benefit one candidate, that's the big difference here. there's nothing wrong in paying if there is perjury, convicted for perjury and see if you can convict but let's stop pretending that meeting with a foreigner is a crime. tell me if this is a crime. here's a photograph, this is chuck schumer he's meeting with vladimir putin. >> i can't see it. >> tucker: it's your former boss. >> it's 2002. >> tucker: it was cool for him to meet. so there doing secret energy deals together. i'm not saying that chuck schumer should be in prison for treason. i'm raising the question. >> you're smart enough to know what that is. >> tucker: the rhetoric is so crazy it's hurting the country. >> what happens here is congress needs to have an investigation. if you want to have a hearing about what chuck was talking about, go right ahead and do that. we need to have a hearing right now about what happened in 2016 and what's happening right now. >> tucker: since we know for a fact the hillary clinton campaign paid a foreign national to get dirt from the russians, should we have a hearing on that? or is that outside of the scope because it wouldn't help your party? >> they've already had numerous hearings aboutut the steele dossier butte they haven't had y hearings about what don jr. saih to his data. we both know he told his dad about his meeting. >> tucker: how do you know that? have you talked to them today? how>> often do you assert things as fact that you don't know is fact? you say we know something, is that a tactic that youow use? >> it is my strong opinion. the guy whose name is don jr. whose whole life is owed it to don sr. would tell don sr. don jr. thought he could do something for don, sr., he would probably tell him. >> tucker: based on your intimate knowledge. i'm just trying to get to the bottom of it. people should stop pretending it's real because it's fake. as you would put it we knoww th that. it's good to see you. dan bongino former secret service agent joins us now. clintons through his lawyer, the other is connected to fusion gp fusion gps. they passed no information about actual russians or collusion. that is the crime of the century but actual russians who put together information according to their own dossier who passed it to the clinton team which wam used to spy on american citizen, nothing to see here. ignore that. but pay attention to this meeting. this is insane, i can't believe we are having this conversation. >> tucker: i should also note that we learned recently if you have any questions about what the government did, you are unpatriotic. why don't you take that home and meditate on it. your unpatriotic asking questions because it is wrong to question the official narrative of anything, got it? >> it is the very essence of the constitutional public to question authority. this whole case is based on a dossier -- here's michael cohen's tweet. he called it a life filled document. their star witness called it life filled, jim comey calls it salacious and unverified, the number two in the fbi said they wouldn't have had a case without it, the head of the division investigating the case said it lacked verification in the lead investigation texted his girlfriend if there is no there there. it sound like a great case, you knocked it out of the park. >> tucker: i can't imagine how you wind up with michael cohen as your personal lawyer. whoever is running the hr department, you would not hire michael cohen as your lawyer. great to see you. one of the biggest tech companies twitter was caused suppressing the accounts ofre politicians and they don't agree with. one of the lawmakers is taking action he'll explain what he's going to do until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. only when you book with expedia. add-on advantage. i wok(harmonica interrupts)ld... ...and told people about geico... 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>> they can institute finds just like they can institute finds an punishment against any company that illegally makes a corporate donation to a political campaig campaign. here the corporate donation is allowing democrats and people running against me to have access to elements of the search feature that i didn't have access to. why? twitter has said it's my behavior that resulted in this, i don't know what behavior that is. are we going to trust tech companies to be able to adjust to decide with no transparency what behavior limits someone's ability to amplify their message? that sounds like the tear in a series you did a couple months ago is coming to life before our very eyes. >> tucker: twitter is a fairly small player in this world as a failing company, google dominates all of tech and it's the portal through which all of human information flows. if google were to hold things back or put her thumb on the scale in any way they would have a huge effect in our society. congress exists to make sure the public interest is represented but i've never heard of a member of congress say were going to get to the bonhomme best, will break up google, fulfill our oversight rule here, why not? >> w too many members of congres don't understand the gravity of the issue. were the ones who have the targets drawn on our foreheads. you will see more engagement coming forward. aon reasonable libertarian might ask why shouldn't i just leave twitter? it's important to recognize twitter and other social media companies use the federal government to get rid of lawsuits that they don't want to have to defend against and they requiresvision that them to hold themselves out as a neutral public forum. twitter and facebook can't say on one hand we are neutral and we shouldn't have to respond to lawsuits and on the other hand n tell me and other outspoken conservatives that our behavior results in suppression on their platform, they can't have it both ways. >> tucker: google has a monopoly as does youtube. they routinely suppress political views they don't agree with and congress does nothing about it. congressman, thank you it's great to seeno you. up next, the southern poverty law center is a sham group dedicated to shaming enemies of the left. the fbi is collaborating with them. a story we have broken, we will tell you what we found next. 150 when you purchase select in stock gear. plus free seminars and giveaways. bass pro shops and cabela's- your adventure starts here. when you barely clip a tpassing car. minor accident - no big deal, right? 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"the fbi has engaged with various organizations, such outreach is a critical component of the fbi information, and we welcome -- we evaluate our relationships to ensure appropriateness of any interaction." we can report tonight that congressman matt gates of florida has sent a letter asking them to explain their relationship which is obviously very troubling to put it mildly. tonight the doj give us another statement. the attorney general has directed the fbi to reevaluate their relationships with groups like this to ensure the fbi doesn't partner with any group that discriminates. as the splc certainly does. the founder of quillian just received the settlement after they labeled him as an extremist, he is the author of a tremendous book called radical. he joins us tonight. thanks for cominghe on. it was partly from watching what they did to you that had us asking the question to what extent are they involved with the federal government? we discovered this. tell our viewers your experience with the splc. >> it's curious and fascinating at the same time because i have been born and raised a muslim, i spent my teenage years with an islamist organization seeking to enforce sharia law in muslim majority society, i got radicalized. i ended up as a political prisoner. it was in jail that i reformed my views and came out bowing to challenge islamist extremists and founded coolio quillian in. the splc deemed it anti-muslim extremists and the sheer oddity of placing a muslim on a list of anti-muslim extremists is what led me to say i need justice in this case, my entire life has been defined by my struggle and i got it wrong initially i've been open about that in my book, my struggle s to find a place fr muslims in the west that is at home with the west. to undermine my entire life's work by placing me on the list of anti-muslim extremists i found a step too far. that's why i went to lawyers and got advice and that's why we took the action we did. >> tucker: as someone who has interviewed scores of people like you, i think you are one of the most restrained and thoughtful and reasonable, it's very odd and dishonest. what effect does it have on you? it's got to hurt your foundatio foundation. head places targets on the head. it's already hard enough for most of reformers to speak out against our communities, people who do are targeted and killed. many of them were knocked off and fascinated by jihadists because they were deemed to be blasphemous and heretical. her close c friend a film direcr was murdered on the streets of amsterdam and a list was stabbed into his body ended named her as being next, that's what were up against here. the first thing it did is it placed me in grave danger, it laced her in grave danger because she was also named on this list. it also have material consequences. the reason they produce these lists is to convince media and philanthropists and foundations not to give grants to these sorts of people in these organizations and it did have those kinds of material. consequences. that's why we couldn't just lie back and take this at face value as it was, we had to take actio action. >> tucker: the fact that our fbi is collaborating with this discredited and reckless is really scary, thank you for your account. there was a solid economic news today as the commerce department estimated a robust 4.1 gdp annual growth rate in the second quarter of the year, that's the biggest single quarter again in four years. america needs good economic growth to help solve the plight of young people who are suffering under much greater debt burdens than their parents were at their age. one of the reasons so many of them call themselves shoulder domestic socialists. what are they get in exchange? not much. heather hawkins is chief macro strategist, we talked to her about the growing debt crisis, here's the conversation. what are the effects of this on the country? >> one of the things it's doing, and the housing>> market it's delaying the purchase of the first home an average of seven years. that affects not just the person buying the home but it affects all of the economy because that person isn't getting those additional seven years of wealth accumulation, as their house appreciates in value. it affects the people selling their homes because you're removing a group of buyers from the equation because they have so much death, they can't afford to be buying a home. >> tucker: $1.5 trillion is almost too big a number to put into any kind of context. there are very few countries in the world with a gdp bigger than that. what would happen if borrowers started to default on those loans? >> we take it in context, it's a truly astounding number. the economy per year generates about 18 trillion, now 1.5 trillion is bigger than everything we owe on cars, all of the car loans are about 1.1 trillion,ar credit card debt is less than 1 trillion. these guys start to default, who was going to be left holding the bag?g? one of the big challenges is you can't actually get through bankruptcy, you can't remove this debt so what are you going to do? you're not going to pay your credit card bill, you're not going to pay your mortgage are not going to payrd your home lon because you don't have a choice even when you go to bankruptcy to not pay your student debt. >> tucker: i don't understand how that works. i'm not advocating people going bankrupt but i do wonder why student loan debt is exempted from normal bankruptcy protections, how didy that happ happen? >> you could extinguish it up until 1995 when congress tightened it up making it all but impossible. they did exclude their own offspring. if you are the child of a member of congress you can't extinguish your student loan by going to bankruptcy court. >> tucker: for real? that's unbelievable. was this a lobbying operation were student loan lenders decided why would we want to face the risk of not getting our money back? >> about who the student loan lender is it's the federal government, it's all but run most other lending out of the market, you can't compete with the federal government. you see what the result of that is. it's like what we saw with subprime housing. with subprime housing, what you saw the government deciding that more and more people ought to own homes so they made it easier and easier to borrow money, what did that do? it made the housing market shoot for the moon because more people could buy homes. they've done the same thing here with education, more and more people to get education which is ultimately good but they way they went about doing that is to make loans more accessible just like l we did with homes. we are making loans more accessible and what happened? you are saying the price of that education has skyrocketed. for i example, if you look from 1985 to today, the cost of education has gone up four times that inflation in general. it's not like wages have been keeping up with that. in 1971, the cost of a one year of education cost a little less than half of what the average guy can make in a year. today it's shy of two years worth. >> tucker: meanwhile the quality of college education has plummeted, the meaning of a degree has evaporated. this is a scam and i appreciate you calling attention to our viewers. one university is cracking down on the phrase "as you know." it is indeed offensive to students, you may be confused but liberals understand why that's exactly a good idea, will tell you why next. when does it end?! with the capital one quicksilver® card, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it's like a cash back oasis. what's in your wallet? 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if you already knew, what are you doing inn college? students are ignorant, that's why they are in school to become learned. >> you're using unnecessary words. it may be why style manuals would say you shouldn't use unnecessary words are unnecessary phrases to make your point. using "as you know" is unnecessary. you're not communicating properly with your audience.er it's not needed and they are urging the professors to t use this this phrase, it's not necessary. >> tucker: are not urging it because i have a commitment to clear language, people who run humanities departments, can barely speak english. >> this is a diversity department that surging the spirit of >> tucker: than everything i said times five it's even more true. don't you want to patronize her students? don't you want to make them feel they know nothing? you want to highlight their ignorance because it will inculcate in them a thirst for hunger and knowledge. >> it's doing the opposite, the diversity department students are saying it's causing self-doubt. we're not supposed to patronize the students, were supposed to fill them with confidence and they will be wonderful leaders in the future and we want a world like that. >> tucker: we have a lot of confidence students i interviewed them allhe the tim. we have too many confident students. if you know nothing and most students know nothing, you should be deeply insecure and a silent as you learn. if a student iss so undone by having a professor use the phrase "as you know," isn't that students are not really for college? shown to be selling aluminum siding or doing something useful? you're not really ready for college ifkn it undoes you. >> isn't it wonderful that the student is speaking up and sank to the professor you're using terms that are really not making sense.en if they are speaking down to us and as the audience, this communicator is not making sens sense. they don't feel confident and they are speaking up and telling this university, we feel more confident if this phrase would be eliminated. they are urging thel professors to get with the program, get with this new era that we are living in, that the students are diverse. >> tucker: join the revolution eaten. very quickly, do you personally really want to a live in a world where college students are empowered to talk a lot? honestly. >> to talk a lot? to speak up? yeah. >> tucker: to speak up, be heard, whatever the, description of it, do you want to live in that world? >> i want to live in a better world, i like the world that changes with the times. >> tucker: i know you do, that's why we love you. that's why we are having you back on monday for a segment that's even more confusing than this one and i can't wait for that. thanks very much. the i fbi isn't supposed to be protecting americans from crime, our next guest says they may be a threat to you and me, and joined us after the break my father passed this truck down to me, taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma, and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts, and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell your doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common, and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. xeljanz xr can reduce the symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't let another morning go by without talking to your rheumatologist about xeljanz xr. >> ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> tucker: we have a public servicece announcement for you e didn't expect to be bringing you this but our control room team minutes ago spotted the creepy porn lawyer in his natural habitat on cnn. they couldn't hear what he was saying but it hurt our feelings a little bit. this is the fifth or sixth other tv network he has done in recent days we've invited him repeatedly onto this show and he has repeatedly turned us down. were going to ask him one more time and we know that he is watching. you always have a home on this 8:00 p.m. program, any time we will clear the decks for you, hope to see you soon. the fbi has been entrusted with enormous power, he can break down your front door and put you in jail. they are supposed to use these powers to protect americans and they do to some extent. increasingly we've seen instances of the fbi abusing its power and depriving citizens of their civil liberties. we have an obligation to speak out against that. the most recent case is that of carter page who was labeled a foreign agent and despite on for more than a year by the obama administration based on the assertions in the steele dossier. assertions which the fbi never bothered to verify. what truly make up this? mark penn was an advisor to bill clinton he joins us tonight, thank you for coming o on. i've been struck not by the fact that this happened but the reaction to it. you have a guy who was a naval officer, an annapolis graduate he's never been charged with anything and he was spied on for a year. the normal course of civil libertarians have been silent. >> people just use talking points that they had before you could actually read the warrant. any fair-minded person comes away with the conclusion that there was no probable cause. they scared a bunch of judges with tense stories about potential russia collusion, the steeleot dossier, the yahoo stoy that was from it and even when he was fired and he was compensated he was on the payroll of the fbi, the dnc, and the hillary clinton campaign at thenc same time -- even when tht was discovered they continued to use this information indicating they had nothing t else. the idea that the government can spy on political campaigns with no evidence is frightening and needs to be corrected with legislation immediately. >> tucker:, the precedent this sets, we are all living in this moment and it's hard for us to see a week ahead. you've been in the white house and political campaigns. there will be another administration and one after that. what does this mean for them? will any president ever be able to trust theim fbi isn't spyingn him or his campaign? >> i saw in 1998 working with president clinton, the stress and strain on the president, the white house, the decisions that incur with these investigations. you can see the kind of stress and strain everyone who participated in the campaign, or an associate of donald trump is being shaken down, investigated, this kind of thing is not compatible with an open democracy where we decide things by elections. we've got to make changes because you're going to be afraid about the fbi, the cia -- all of the intelligence agencies. what they can be doing and not only when you're the president but when you're running a campaign against the president. what sets this country apart its peaceful transition of government. >> tucker: we are playing with heavy-duty things. do you think in the next year or two there is a legislative answer that can restore confidence in these agencies? >> an ombudsman has to be appointed, i think for any warrants that involve americans and particularly americans in political campaigns, special judges and procedure so that the highest the bar is established and it's unbelievable we haven't already moved to do that. >> tucker: thank you very much much. maxine waters back in the news, especially amazing this time. don't go away. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia. right. how does she know that? 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