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extensive interview this morning with the former penn state football assistant coach accused of molesting dozens of children. jerry sandusky. you'll hear him in his own words explain his relationship and his, quote, attraction to young boys. also this morning, a story maybe you wouldn't think is coming your way from 2011. an interracial couple told they are not welcome at a church in kentucky. we are just a few hours away from a major announcement from herman cain. here's how he explained what this will all be about. this was him talking yesterday. >> i will be making an announcement, but nobody is going to get me to make that prematurely. we will also clarify, there's that word again, "clarify," exactly what the next steps are. >> well, what are the next steps? he's actually in atlanta today to open a campaign office. our shannon travis is there for us in atlanta. shannon, hello to you. everybody is intrigued here, a grand opening and a grand closing today? >> reporter: yeah, it's a grand decision day, basically, tj. it's anyone's guess what herman cain is actually going to announce here at this headquarters, his georgia headquarters. it's also anyone's guess what's influencing this decision. one thing that's the a safe bet, though, definitely what's influencing it is the conversation he had had with his wife last night. i was there, outside of herman cain's house in suburban atlanta, when he met his wife for the first time, face-to-face, since this latest allegation of alleged affair happened. obviously, it was a private conversation, potentially painful, potentially tough for them. but that will likely influence what he has to say today. now, let me just give you a little bit of a lay of the land here. we're outside of, as you mentioned, his new georgia headquarters, opening today. there's a stage right behind me, where he's going to emerge from. we're expecting him about, 1:00, 1:30, where he's going to come out and basically deliver the verdict. does he say, you know what, i'm going to step aside, this is too painful for my family, too much attention, or does he thumb his nose at his latest accuser in a major way as the nation watches? we will be here, obviously, along with the other press and a lot of other supporters who we expect to be here, cheering him on, no matter what, he says. tj? >> shannon, i know you're trying to reconcile this conflict, if you will, as well. you can't have an event to open a major campaign headquarters on the same day that you're announcing you're getting out of the race. those two things just don't mesh. >> reporter: you know what, tj, i've been trying to read the tea leaves to what's going to happen for the last few hours. each time i try and read something, i go down a different path. you're right. i mean, it is a little bit curious that he's still going ahead and opening this georgia headquarters. he's sending out e-mails saying, hey, supporters, send me videos of your support or what have you. he's meeting with supporters and donors today to inform them of his decision. but at the same time, we know that herman cain has run a very unconventional campaign, and made his own decisions and gone his own way. so could he be basically waiting and going along with business as usual but then to come out and say, hey, i'm going to suspend my campaign? which technically, does it mean that he's getting out? i mean, it's no -- it's anyone's guess what he's actually going to do. i don't know that because he's opening up this georgia headquarters, that that automatically means that he stays in. it's just really anyone's guess, tj. >> all right. well, you keep guessing. good luck with those tea leaves. shannon travis for us this morning. we'll talk to him plenty throughout the morning. four minutes past the hour now, and herman cain, as said, continued support by his backers and donations would have a big impact on his decision. but if a new poll is any indication, the support is fading. "des moines register" poll shows how far he has fallen in the eyes of the voters, just 8%, where in october he was 23%. no doubt, the rest of the republican field will be watching when herman cain makes whatever this announcement is supposed to be today. but they've got their own events to pay attention to today, as well. mitt romney is in new hampshire, up in manchester. he has a rally there, starts 90 minutes from there. we'll take you there live when that gets started. also, let's turn now to the man at the center of the penn state sexual molestation scandal, now trying to set the record straight on his relationships with young boys. former assistant coach jerry sandusky sat down in his lawyer's house for an extensive four-hour interview with the "new york times." his first extended interview since being indicted on sex abuse charges last month. take a listen to this portion. >> if i say no, i'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth, because i'm attracted young people, boys, girls. >> but not sexually -- you're attracted because -- >> right, i enjoy -- that's what i was trying to -- i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. i mean, my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young. >> sandusky also went on to say in that interview that the coach, joe paterno, never spoke to him about suspected misconduct with minors, and the second mile charity never restricted his access to children until 2008. sandusky also says his intentions are simply misunderstood. and i quote here. they have taken everything i ever did for any young person and twisted it to say my motives were sexual or whatever. i've had kid after kid after kid who might say i was a father figure and they just twisted that all, end quote. let's turn to syracuse now and jim bayheim making an apology, an emotional one after his team's gain. he says he's sorry for being angry and defensive and standing up for coachfein, accused of sexually molesting three boys. head coach bayheim made the remarks in a post game interview. take a listen to him. >> i believe i misspoke very badly in my response to the allegations that have been made. i shouldn't have questioned what the accusers expressed or their motives. i am really sorry that i did that. and i regret any harm that i caused. >> you may remember, coach boeheim came out and strongly defended berniefein when the allegations were first made and said the accusers may have been after mine. assistant coach fein was fired last month. he was an assistant for 35 years. eight minutes past the hour. how is this for a quote? just get to the damn table. those were the tough words from defense secretary leon panetta. he had those words for israel's leaders, talking about the prospects for middle east peace. >> the problem right now is we can't get them to the damn table. to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences. you know, we all know what the pieces are here to a potential agreement. they have been talked about, they have been worked through. we understand the concerns, we understand the concerns of israel, we understand the concerns of the palestinians. if they sit at a table and work through those concerns, and the united states can be of assistance in that process. >> panetta said to push for peace is also on hold, because israel is becoming more isolated in the region. well, eight minutes past the hour now. let's say good morning for the first time to our reynolds wolf, keeping an eye on what today, exactly? >> we're going to focus mostly like a bull's eye on parts of the west coast and into the four corners where we've got some incredible winds, heavy snow. southern california, the story is the santa ana winds, pounding the state like a sledgehammer. looks like no let-up is expected today until late in the afternoon. but there is a chance of a lot of damage left in its wake. we'll have more coming up in a few moments. thank you for watching cnn. see you in a few. >> all right. see you shortly, reynolds. and a church in kentucky telling an interracial couple, you're not welcome here. church members approved a statement, saying they don't approve of interracial marriage. we want to hear what you think after you hear this story. also a little later, the nation's job numbers improve and president obama is using those jobs numbers to tout his jobs plan. we hear that in just a moment. also, jeff gordon. you know, he's pretty good around a track. but did you know he doesn't have moves like jagger, necessarily. but he's got some moves, nonetheless. we'll tell you what this was all about. you do not want to miss the video. stay with us. it's all crossed out... it's 'cause i got everything on it. boom! thank you! 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home in arkansas. u.s. marshals took him into custody this morning. the mother and stepfather have legal custody of the child. mccreaty took the boy last month, asking the court to restore custody to her. turning to a story that has a lot of people talking and you'll be talking about it after you hear it. a church in kentucky is now being criticized because it opposes interracial marriage. stella harrvelle is a life-long member there. was away attending school with her fiance who you see there. they planned to marry next summer. but church members passed an attempt this week saying they don't condone interracial marriage, and won't be received as members or used in worship services. harrvelle told our erin burnett she was shocked, and her fiance disappointed. >> i was just floored, as well as they were. i mean, to say that we couldn't sing in church because he doesn't want his granddaughter growing up thinking it's okay to marry a black guy? like, i get that people have their convictions and it's not like i want to flaunt it in front of them, but so, like, what are they going to do? like, are they going to go out to a public outing and if they see an interracial couple, are they going to be like, oh, we need you to leave because i don't want my granddaughter thinking it's okay. it's just -- i still don't know how to process all of this. >> for someone who has been going for that church all her life, she was expecting some support from them. but, you know, that -- everyone just fell off the bandwagon and has pushed a really harsh judgment on her and on us and on the family too. >> now, the pastor of the church is saying that the church may overturn the policy, possibly as early as tomorrow. we'll keep an eye on that. we certainly want to hear your thoughts on this. i have been talking to some of you about it already, seeing your comments on twitter. i keep it up right next to me during the show, please keep sending those in to tj holmes. again, i'm at tj holmes and we have a facebook page as well as a blog at cnn/tj. 14 minutes past the hour now. a huge snowstorm is causing all kinds of issues in new mexico. interstates have been shut down temporarily because of it. you can imagine those driving conditions out there. we'll have more after the break. we'll be joined again by our reynolds wolf. also, a lot of people can't figure out what to get the little ones for christmas. there's a new website that has a solution for you, a toy solution. you don't have to pay full-price for it. you could just send it back. you can rent it, essentially. does that work for you? is quick break. stay with us. ♪ when your chain of supply ♪ goes from here to shanghai, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ chips from here, boards from there ♪ ♪ track it all through the air, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ clearing customs like that ♪ hurry up no time flat that's logistics. ♪ ♪ all new technology ups brings to me, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ mary? what are you doing here? it's megan. i'm 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driving -- even people who are used to driving through those mountain passes with snow, it's a difficult thing. i mean, seriously, it's never easy. >> you have to adjust, say, i have to remember how to drive in this stuff. >> exactly. slow and go. and the bottom line, if you're not in a hurry, if you don't have to go through these places, by all means, don't do it. plain and simple. other people are on the road too. >> are they done there for the time being? >> no. and we have those winds in california, the santa ana winds, all kinds of damage, power outages and flight delays. i know, back-ups, it happens. so lax, get ready, burbank, your regional airports. john wayne, get ready for it, could be a long day for you. from high above, it is a beautiful view. you take a look at it. you've got some rain that's falling through lubbock back to the canyons, even the davis and apache mountains but then towards denver, southward to albuquerque, seeing something all together different, snow, in the highest elevations. some places up to a foot of snow. the winds could be topping 60 miles per hour, maybe even 70 in the high mountain passes. so what do you have? a lot of snow and a lot of wind. it picks up a lot of that powder, moves across the roadway, and that lowers your visibility to zero. you're not going to be able to see at all. so what you have to do, you have to be very, very careful and, of course, stop at a rest area and take it easy. no reason to be in a hurry, i don't care what your schedule happens to be. windy conditions prevailing over parts of southern california. to be more specific about the wind, it's going to be those strong gusts, around 50, 60 miles per hour possible. but with low humidity, a critical condition for fires. if there was a spark that popped up in the san gabriels by late afternoon you could hit a lot of sage brush. winds will diminish, expected to diminish by the afternoon. the snow, though, is going to stick around at least through the evening hours, perhaps building over into the central plains. i want to keep a sharp eye on spots like oklahoma city. right now, it looks like they may be seeing snow late sunday and monday. that could be a real trouble spot as we start the next workweek. 48 degrees the high in kansas city, 22 in denver. 35 in portland, 63 in it los angeles. 62 in atlanta. 70 in dallas. 79 in tampa, new york and boston into the upper to mid 40s. you know something else, tj, a huge day for college football. and we've got the forecast for a lot of those contents very soon. >> all right, reynolds, see you again shortly. a lot of people working on christmas right now. have you figured out what you're going to put under the tree for your kids? if not, there's a possible solution. you can rent toys now -- maybe accept send them back later. the website, toy guru allows you to rent the toy, and then a month later send it back. if your kid gets attached to the toy, you can buy it a discounted price. some 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one of the guys they set me up with took me to a moroccan restaurant and ate raw meat next to me. >> reporter: so foreman and a growing number of singles over 50 are going online to find potential matches. >> like being in a candy store. >> reporter: stacy dancy is a 61-year-old real estate agent. >> i can't imagine spending the rest of my life alone. >> reporter: after her marriage ended, dancy's daughter-in-law made a suggestion. >> she said, you've got to get on one of those online dating sites. and i said i don't think so. >> reporter: what was your concern about being on an online dating site? >> i've heard horror stories. >> reporter: stalkers, scam artists and worse. online dating sites say because they collect background information on customers, it's actually a much safer way to meet people. dan'sy's daughter persuaded her to join "our time," a dating site for baby boomers. >> it's just a numbers game. the more people i meet, the greater my odds are i'll meet a guy that wants to have like a loving, warm, committed serious monogamous relationship. >> there's been a perfect storm of a growing number of baby boomers who are single, with a growing number of baby boomers who are using the internet, and discovering that it's a way to be connected. >> reporter: a 2010 e-harmony survey found the internet is now the most popular way for people over 50 to meet and marry. >> i've always thought that idea that the older generation is afraid of technology is overblown, because they do seem to adopt it. and now adopt it in numbers just as much as everybody else does. >> reporter: widow vangie de claire and rob foss met online in 2008. >> i've been married so long, i had kind of forgotten the process so like a duck out of water. >> it was scary. >> reporter: both liked the idea of reviewing potential dates before agreeing to meet. >> i think it's less intimidating than going out there and trying to meet someone at a, you know, bar. >> reporter: dating after 50 is different. >> we each have assets now. and when i was in my 20s, i owned a stereo and a used car. >> reporter: but the results can be the same. foss and mcclaire are planning a hawa hawaiian wedding next year. casey buy ant, cnn los angeles. a big day in politics, or could be, because herman cain is set to make some kind of big announcement. >> i will be making an announcement the. >> all right. we're not exactly sure what the announcement could be. some are speculating he's actually going to get out of the race today. this all comes after allegations of a 13-year affair. we'll be talking about cain decision, also what's happening with newt gingrich. mitt romney, the republican field. our good political friends maria cardona is in the building with us. also, jerry sandusky in his own words. the former penn state coach in his first extended interview since his indictment on sexual abuse charges. everyone in the nicu, all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. 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the former penn state coach says he enjoys the company of all young people, and that his intentions were good but misunderstood. well, former democratic presidential candidate george mcgovern is in guarded condition in a south dakota hospital, reportedly fell on the campus of dakota wesley university. he was there as part of a live c-span program on presidential "contenders." the 89 year-old lost to richard nixon in 1972. also, honda expanding its recall of honda and acura vehicles because of faulty air bags. about 900,000 vehicles are affected here. they have the model years, 2001 to 2003. it says the air bags deploy with too much pressure. the latest jobs numbers, they are out. we got those yesterday and while they aren't spectacular, necessarily, they sure are better than the month before. the month of november saw a net job gain of 2,700 jobs and the surprising drop from 9% to 8.6%. that's the lowest it's been since march of 2009. president obama used the new numbers to urge congress to pass his jobs legislation. >> despite some strong head winds this year, america's economy has created private sector jobs for the past 21 months in a row. almost 3 million new jobs in all. more than half a million of them in the past four months alone. we need to keep this growth going. and strengthening. and that's why we've been fighting to pass a series of jobs bills through congress. bills that independent economists say will create more jobs and grow the economy even faster. because now's the time to step on the gas. not slam on the brakes. >> an economist surveyed by cnn money had predicted the jobless rate would stay at 9%. meanwhile, on the other side, republicans say the jobs numbers are not enough. gop's weekly address was delivered by senator olympia snow and says the economy cannot address the national deficit in passing the balanced budget amendment. >> for too long, the burden has fallen to supporters of the balanced budget amendment to justify its necessity. today, at this moment, when our debt has exceeded the size of our entire economy, i ask you, the american people, to place the burden squarely where it belongs, on those who would oppose this measure. >> now, the balanced budget amendment failed in the house last month. the senate begins debate on it next week. and you know, we'll stick with this topic. because look at what we've got in the building today, folks. good friends of our show here on cnn saturday and sunday morning, republican strategist linda mccaliforniaster and cnn contributor, maria cardona, good to have you in the building with us. thank you. great to be here. >> let's start with the economic picture. good news for the president yesterday. i know it's early still, but everybody is going to try to spin these numbers. >> sure. i think that every time the jobless rate goes down, of course it's good news for the president. but he's absolutely right. he's the first one to say, it's not enough. because way too many people are out of work. and too many people are still anxious about their economic future. and we saw olympia snowe talking a little bit ago and that's where you see the difference between what democrats and republicans want to do. she is talking about how the burden is on the supporters of a balanced budget amendment. i'm sorry, senator. the burden is on millions of people who are out of a job, on middle class workers, on working americans, who have not been able to get ahead. what the president and democrats want to do is create jobs exactly for those folks. that's who the burden is on. and i'm hoping that republicans will join us and at least pass the tax cut that democrats are urging. >> well, doesn't it sound like everybody is on the same page about this payroll tax cut that's going to expire at the end of the year. on the same page at least about wanting, but not how to get at it. we'll get this resolved, by the end of the year? >> we're talking about different things here. what that tax cut and how they're going to pay for it, it's actually as if each party took the opposite role. because you heard from democrats saying, how are we going to pay for these extensions of the bush tax rates? and then the republicans say we need this to stimulate. now the democrats say we need the extension of the payroll tax and the republicans are saying how are we going to pay for this? when it comes to the unemployment rates, there's a mixed bag with numbers, because 402,000 folks filed for unemployment for the first time this past week. so you have the unemployment rate going down, but you have that number sitting there. and that's why economists are saying, okay, is it because people have stopped looking for work again or is the economy really, you know, kicking back up and going better when it comes to jobs kicking back in? >> we know a huge number of people, 315,000, just gave up and stopped looking. that had an effect on the number. but at the end of the day, guys, most people don't dig into those numbers as much as we do. they hear, oh, we were at 9%, now we're at 8.6? that's right. >> it works. >> that's right. >> confidence, exactly. >> it does help confidence. but, again, i think you have to look at the underlying numbers, because if you're a voter and even though you see those numbers go down, if you're one of those people out of a job, that's not going to speak to you. what is going to speak to you is if you hear the president of the united states talking about how he wants to create jobs, and how he wants to focus on working-class americans. >> let me turn for a second to the republican candidates, and somebody you have been high on from day one, even when he was in the single digits. newt gingrich. you have been talking about him and his big ideas and his handle of so many complex issues. is he a little confident right now? >> he may be get too long confident, but let's be honest, even with that sound bite, he said it would be hard to see how he would not be the nominee. and let's look at it from a rational standpoint. we've already gone through bachmann, perry, cain, and nobody wants romney. there's a reason why jon huntsman wants to do this debate with newt gingrich. because if there suddenly becomes an anti newt sentiment, who is left? it would have to be jon huntsman, that's why he has agreed to do the lincoln debate. i don't think they're going toward santorum. he's a guy who could possibly win in a general election, which is why huntsman is trying to hitch his wagon to gingrich, the same way gingrich hitched his wagon to cain in the debates a couple months ago. but this time it's not going to work the same way. >> gingrich is going through a huge internal debate right now between the old newt and the new newt and we're seeing flashes of the old newt coming back. somebody who can't help himself. he likes to talk about how he's like thomas jefferson, like how he's -- he's like abraham lincoln. he's a celebrity. he's got to tone it down a little bit. you know, one of the reasons why he has risen in the debates is because people have seen that he is probably the brightest guy on that stage. but he's also been humble. and that humility i think will go a long way. but it's very hard for him to keep that humble and to actually show the discipline that he's going to need to continue on. >> but that celebrity status sounds like president obama from 2008, the same way, the celebrity candidate that's the smartiest guy in the room that isn't afraid to tell you he's the smartest guy in the room. so some of it plays as long as -- you can't do it too long. >> you can't compare the hubris that we all know newt gingrich is -- >> if depends on if you're a republican or not. >> yes, well, newt gingrich is known for that kind of hubris and that is what is coming back up now. >> so good to have you guys here so i can see this in person. >> there you go, exactly. >> they will be back with us, because we didn't talk about it in segment, but a big weekend could be really -- some rocking and rolling here in atlanta with herman cain. an announcement expected sometime a few hours from now, a big event happening here in atlanta, saying he's going to make a big announcement. this is what's at what's supposed to be the opening of his new campaign headquarters, but we may get an answer about whether or not he is going to continue in the race. there is a live picture, the new campaign headquarters, people starting to stir there, but wire expecting that to get going in a few hours and the announcement from herman cain about how he's going to move forward. we'll talk about it with lengthy and maria. good to have you in atlanta. now, we all get a little mad at the tax man sometimes, don't we? but take a look, a couple farmers with a grudge against tax officials, they leave a nasty gift inside the local tax office. our morning passport. again, this is not a suggestion, folks. we're just reporting the story. we'll tell you how this all played out. stay with us. 40 minutes past the hour now. our morning passport. we were showing that video and people were, ooh, what is that. you get upset with the tax man, but you can't do this. >> you have to understand the back story. here are two farmers in northern india. and the one farmer is, in fact, a snake charmer. and he has asked this particular office to please give him certain deeds for some land he wants to keep his snakes. and they keep saying, yes, we are going to give it to you. but then they say if you give us a certain amount of money so they blackmail him. >> wow. >> he says, i don't have the money. and so in absolute rage and so frustrated and tired of corrupt officials, he unleashes over two dozen snakes, including poisono poisono poisonous cobras and you see people trying to capture the snakes. and can you imagine how pet mying that is? >> he tossed them in there? >> but it was to pinpoint for him, tj. he was so furious at this point. he had begged, he had asked. this had gone on for two years, and eventually he said, no mas, no more, i am going to unleash my poisonous snakes. he didn't know what else to do. he speaks about his desperation. and in india amongst officials like this, there is so much bribery, so much corruption so this is an outcry and a way of saying i will not take this anymore. and if you look on youtube, many times if a public official tries to bribe someone, they will shame them publicly. >> was anybody hurt in this? >> nobody was hurt. and the farmers have as of yet not been found. the snakes have been captured, some put to death, i'm afraid. but the farmers -- and particularly, the one is a snake charmer, so maybe there's some superstition about getting him, i will unleash my snake on you. >> clearly, he gave up on trying to get whatever deed he wanted. >> legally. and he said i don't have the money. and he also considers himself a conservationist, i am trying to have an area for my snakes. >> again, should we have a disclaimer here, don't try this with your tax office, please, folks? >> i'm sure some people get to that level of absolute rage. >> we've all been there. >> a bag of snakes, might be time to unleash it. >> thank you as always with our morning passport. we will see her again. 43 minutes past the hour now. and go listen to your home. yes. just take a listen to your home. we have a high-tech approach to saving energy and, yes, that means saving money. ♪ good morning, san francisco. gorgeous shot down at the pier. about 5:45, 8:45 for us here in atlanta, georgia. a rlot of you know you could be getting some money back if you have ever used ticketmaster in the past 12 years, you could be getting some money back. and that is because they have now settled a lawsuit because of a fee that ticketmaster would charge people. this lawsuit was a class action suit. they're going to give these refunds out as part of the settlement here. the lawsuit was filed back in 2003. it alleged 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his play has been consistently improving. he shot in the 60s in eight of the last nine rounds, knocked down two nice eagles yesterday, knocking down his putts, but only a two-round lead. starts today three shots ahead of kj choi and matt kuchar. so we'll see. i mean, it's -- last year he was close to winning this exact same tournament and is lost to i believe in a playoff. so he's just got to get over the hump and then it's a matter of what happens next? will it snow ball? i think golf needs that. >> it takes time. everybody will tell you, golf needs tiger woods back. the players tell you they would like to have tiger woods back. let's turn to nascar. you all were selling this video to me, all right? jeff gordon who we're used to seeing behind the wheel. what's he up to? >> you don't traditionally think of a nascar driver break dancing. >> you don't ever think of -- >> but that's exactly what -- >> okay. >> that's exactly what jeff gordon did. the drivers are in las vegas for champions week, and he was actually dared to breakdance and he said no. and then he said, okay, i'll do it. and he actually gets loose. look at the guy. he's decent -- >> he knows what he's doing. he's done that before. >> something tells me he practiced it and then was like, okay, fine, i'll do it. he was taking the bait and then, yep, i'll show you guys wrong. so what do you think, decent, not decent? >> i like that. you've brought us some good video over time. and there's a good shot of it. look at all of them laughing behind. like, who is this guy? no, you don't think about nascar drivers and breakdancing. >> they're athletes, train just like regular athletes. and that goes to show, he's flexible strong, good core. >> he has nothing on reynolds wolf. i don't know if you know reynolds' history on this show. reynolds is a dancing fool. you understand me? and i'm not just making this up. you might think i'm selling this. >> i have no idea what he's talking about, haven't the slightest idea what he's referring to. >> reynolds is a dancing maniac but here to talk about championship saturday. >> the objective is to attract viewers, not repel them. we are keeping a very sharp eye on our game-day forecast. the first we have is very interesting. take a look at this one, joe. joe, you know this is going to be a war. lsu and georgia, georgia dropped the first two games of the season against boise state in south carolina. this is a big one. what's interesting about lsu, they really just ravaged the team last weekend, didn't they, tj? who did they play? >> i think it was, what -- arkansas? >> i don't know. >> such a lopsided -- >> see how they do me, folks? >> we have a good time. >> yeah, should be a great game, indoors. everyone is worried about tailgating, nippy but just fine. another game, stillwater, they've got oklahoma and oklahoma state. that's an 8:00 p.m. kickoff, temperatures in the 40s, breezy, chance of rain. you know how that goes, can be could be interesting. and charlotte, clemson and virginia tech, weather should be just fine, 8:00 p.m. kickoff. houston, southern miss and houston. a lot of speculation about houston, could that coach go to a&m, you never know. windy conditions at the noontime kickoff. and wisconsin and michigan state, also a dome game, going to be playing indoors, i believe. are they -- they can't be be. >> it's in indianapolis. >> it's in indianapolis. why does it say columbus, ohio? things happen. >> that's all right. >> so that was the forecast for columbus? >> that was actually for indianapolis. but mistakes are made at times. but football, there is no mistakes. it's a beautiful thing and great time of year. >> reynolds, thank you. joe, always good to see you. getting close to the top of the hour here, folks and big apology to tell you about from the head basketball coach at syracuse. jim boeheim saying he was wrong about how he respondeded to accusations about his long-time assistant coach. you will hear his emotional apology. stay with us on this cnn "saturday morning." also, jerry sandusky talking in his own words. you won't believe what he says about his attraction to young boys. you'll hear it for yourself. that is coming up. also -- >> i will be making an announcement. >> that announcement the? we don't know what it is, but we know when it is. and we know where it is. it's here in atlanta in had a few hours from now. herman cain making an announcement. some speculating he could get out of the race after allegations of a 13-year affair. stay with us. ou could guaranteee they won't be beat. oh, actually... then i'd be like, you rule! and my kids would be like, you rule! oh, load up the sleigh; this is going to be a great christmas. 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[ electronic beeping ] [ male announcer ] still getting dandruff? neutrogena® t/gel shampoo defeats dandruff after just one use. t/gel shampoo. it works. neutrogena®. we are just crossing the top of the hour here on this cnn saturday morning. give you a look at some of the stories making headlines. some results are in from the first election in egypt since hosni mubarak was forced from power. this is just the first round of elections. of it's the first of several. they'll help decide who will get seats in the lower house of parliament. also honda expanding its recall of honda and acura vehicles with faulty air bags. the recall effects about 900,000 vehicles from model years 2001 to 2003. honda says air bags can deploy with too much force. also, house ethics committee is now extending its investigation into congressman jesse jackson jr. the panel found probable cause to believe jackson instructed a supporter to raise money for former illinois governor rod blagojevich in exchange for president obama's vacant senate seat. jackson has agreed to cooperate with authorities. well, we turn to politics, and the race for the republican nomination. it's really shaping up and could take on a different shape by the end of this day. herman cain is going to be making news a little later, at least he says. he plans to make a big announcement the on the future of his campaign. this comes just after cain came home to atlanta to see his wife, face-to-face for the first time since allegations of a long-time affair surfaced. our shannon travis is here with us, as well, at the -- what's supposed to be, shannon, the headquarters, new headquarters, opening here in just a few hours for the campaign. that doesn't sound like a man who is about to get out of a race. >> reporter: yeah, is it going to be a short opening in a few hours or so, or will this headquarters be around in the days to come? it's anybody's guess, tj, what herman cain is going to do. the things we know for sure, he said he will unveil his announcement, his path forward, his way forward with his campaign today. just a few hours away from now. we're expecting about 1:30 to come up to this podium you see behind me on this platform and reveal what that decision is. now, another thing that's really key to his decision, we can guess, is that this conversation that he had with his wife, as you mentioned, that was the first time yesterday that he actually saw her face-to-face since this latest allegation surfaced. so what did she say? what did they talk about? what's her thoughts? obviously he's keeping that under tight wraps and it's a private matter, as it should be. but he did tell wolf blitzer just a few days ago that when the allegations of the 13-year affair surfaced, that his wife said to him, "here we go again." we also know that gloria cain stood by him through the sexual harassment allegations that he, of course, denies. but that she stood by him through that. so is she sticking by him again? is this family sticking by him? are those the only or the main key linchpins to his decisions? are other advisers advising him? we just don't know. but we'll be standing by to see what he has to say, as will everybody watching. >> all right. shannon travis there for us here in atlanta for us as well. we'll be checking in with him plenty throughout the morning. thank you so much. herman cain has said continued support by his backers and donations would have a big impact on his decision. but take a look at this poll. is this any indication that his support is fading? this is a "des moines register" poll shows how far he has fallen in the eyes of likely iowa voters. at 8% as opposed to the 23% he was polling at in october. the rest of the republican field will be watching closely to see what herman cain does today, but they still have their own events they need to be paying attention to. mitt romney is in manchester, new hampshire, has a rally there. starts in just a bit. we'll take you there for a live look when that does get started. also, three minutes past the hour. we want to turn now to the man at the center of the penn statel sexual molestation scandal, trying to set the record straight on his relationships with young boys. former assistant coach jerry sandusky sat down in his lawyer's house for a four-hour interview with the "new york times." this is his first extended interview since being indicted on sex abuse charges last month. listen to this. if i say no, i'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth, because i'm attracted to young people, boys, girls -- >> yeah, but not sexually. you're attracted because you've been spending time -- >> right, i enjoy. that's what i was trying to say. i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. i mean, my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young. >> well, you heard that voice that was off-camera there, his attorney jumping in, trying to help him clarify after sandusky said he was attracted to boys. his attorney jumped in and says, "but not sexually" and that's when sandusky corrected himself. sandusky says joe paterno, the former coach of penn state, never spoke to him about suspected misconduct with minors and also says the second mile charity never restricted his access to children until 2008. sandusky also says that his good intentions were misunderstood. and i quote. they've then taken anything i ever did for any young person and twisted it to say that my motives were sexual or whatever. i've had kid after kid after kid who might say i was a father figure, and they just twisted that all. end quote. we now turn to syracuse university, and that school also dealing with some sexual misconduct, sexual child abuse charges there. having to do with an assistant coach. but the head coach last night admitting that he was wrong. jim boeheim apologizing for being angry and defiant and defending his long-time assistant coach, bernie fine, against those sexual molestat n molestatio molestations. boeheim spoke about that during a post-game interview. listen. >> i believe i misspoke very badly in my response to the allegations that have been made. i shouldn't have questioned what the accusers expressed or their motives. i am really sorry that i did that, and i regret any harm that i caused. >> fine was fired last month over those molestation allegations. he had been an assistant coach at syracuse for 35 years. six minutes past the hour now, and you know there are some things that kids just should not say about their teacher. but one kid suspended for saying what about his teacher? 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i'm going to talk to a scientist who knows and says you should too. that and more coming up tonight on cnn "weekend prime." ten minutes past the hour now, giving you a look at some of the stories making news cross-country and the wife of mega church preacher bishop eddie long is going through with a divorce. the church issued a statement saying she reconsidered, but her lawyers say that is not the case. vanessa long filed divorce papers thursday. you may remember it was last spring that he settled lawsuits involving four young men. they had accused him of pressuring them into sexual relationships. although the 5-year-old son of country music singer mindy mccready has been found and he's okay, she was discovered -- mccready was, with the young man, hiding in a closet in a home in arkansas. u.s. marshals took him into custody this morning. mccready's mother and stepfather in florida have legal custody of him. she took him last month, asking the court to restore custody to her. lsu's s.e.c. championship game happening at the georgia dome today. you can be certain buddy hair will be there. he has not missed a game, home or away, in 56 years. >> he's always gone. i promise you. he will go if he has to crawl. >> he's a former air force pilot who started attending lsu games when he was a pilot for the team's flights. we turn now to a fourth grader in north carolina. he was suspended for two days. you know what got him into trouble? according to his mother, he called a teacher cute. cute. the school district calls this, quote, inappropriate behavior. we pick up the story now from allen cavana. >> do you know what sexual harassment is. >> reporter: but he learned the meaning this week. his offense, his mother says, telling another student a teacher is cute. >> when i talked to the principal, he said that was sexual harassment. >> reporter: she got the call from the school's principal on wednesday that her son was being suspended for two days. she says the principal told her a substitute teacher overheard him talking in class. >> i was talking to my friend and i said she was cute. >> reporter: uh-huh. >> and that's all i said. >> reporter: his mother says the principal did not dispute that account, and decided to suspend the fourth grader. >> it's not like he went up to the woman and tried to grab her or touch her in a sexual way. so why would he be suspended for two days? >> may i help you. >> reporter:? a district spokeswoman says she could not go into detail but says lockette was suspended for inappropriate behavior after making inappropriate statements. we checked the district's code of conduct. it doesn't list inappropriate behavior, but says diseruption of school is punishable by five days out of school suspension. this student's mother, though, says the punishment does not fit the crime. >> i don't know. we talked about this earlier. there is a line. you always have to keep that respect, that relationship between a child, student ask and teacher. wasn't saying it to the teacher, it was overheard. not that that's an excuse, but a two-day suspension seems a little harsh. >> there's a reason why kids are kids. kids don't have world knowledge. they say inappropriate things and he could say a lot worse, you know what i mean? >> like what? >> i'm not going to say it here. you can leave it to your imagination. >> you know i like to see what you come up with sometimes. >> no, you like to watch me squirm. you like to see me panic and let me tell you, it was deer in the headlights moment there for a brief second. >> what's going on, young fellow? you have a trouble spot today? >> two trouble spots. one is southern california, the other one parts of the four corners, mainly into new mexico and a chance we might see heavy snow moving to oklahoma city as we get into the next week. >> okay. >> could be interesting. let's hop over here for a moment. i'm going to hop over here. right now, mostly rain popping up on radar. that's the first thing that might catch your eye, places like wichita, south of omaha, be even over to st. louis. we're going to follow it up to chicago where you're getting rain this morning along miracle mile. meanwhile as you make your way over towards the four corners, you see something different, not the rain but the snow. it is beginning to feel more prevalent, the highest elevations mere talis ski country, great there. flagstaff in arizona, we anticipate the snow is going to pile up in some places, up to a foot of snow in the highest elevations. but that's only part of the story. the second half of the story is the strong winds that will develop over parts of the four corners, some winds topping 50, maybe 60 miles per hour and that's into arizona and back into parts of say new mexico. but southern california, the winds are still strong there again today. santa anas roaring out of the northeast and as they do so, we've got a chance we might see more damage, tree damage, power lines. and with the very low humidity, the critical chance of fire -- again, the fire threat, and speaking of other threats, take a look at that. you see the tree damage over parts of the southern california area? yeah, when those winds go roaring through the san gabriels, the first victims some of the california oaks, topple over, hit the power lines. you know the next step, you've got widespread power outages. you saw the awning over the gas station. of course, the street signs. it's going to be a while before we see those die into the afternoon, and then tomorrow the clean-up begins. and we'll have quite a clean-up. widespread delays in the west coast, all of your airports, including burbank and farther north into this bay area in san francisco, might have some back-ups there, too. >> reynolds, thank you, as always. we'll check in with reynolds throughout the morning. 16 minutes past the now. and a church in kentucky telling an interracial couple saying you're not welcome here, saying they don't approve of interracial marriage. we'll have some of your feedback and maybe a change of heart the church might be having. but first, tomorrow dr. sanjay gupta has a new show on cnn called "the next list" and he profiles exceptional people in the week. this week, he talks to a woman who makes robots. ♪ >> my name is heather knight and i'm a social roboticist, someone who makes robots that can interact with people in a human way. when i tell people i can make robots, they're like, oh, wow, that's really cool. and when i tell people i make social robots, usually they're a little bit confused at first. and i found the best way to talk about what i actually do is by example. ♪ hey... there's mom! hey, let mom try. ready, go! ♪ yeah, rock on, mom! 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>> thanks to our chris lawrence there. you can stay tuned to cnn for special coverage of the withdrawal from iraq. we have several of our correspondents heading back to iraq for the final days of the u.s. mission there. we'll have in-depth reports starting next week all the way up to the withdrawal. 23 minutes past the hour now. and that church in kentucky we've been telling you about that's getting some criticism really across the nation, all over the place, because it passed a resolution opposing interracial marriage. now the pastor is saying he will ask the congregation to overturn that decision. that could come as early as tomorrow. the church acted because of this couple, stella harvelle, a long time member of the church, has been away at school and attended services in june with her fiance. they planned to get married last summer. but this week, church members patched the resolution saying the church does not condone interracial marriage and says interracial couples will not be received as members or used in worship services. harvelle told our erin burnett she was stuned. and you'll hear from her fiance. >> i was floored as well as they were. i mean, to say we couldn't sing in church because he doesn't want his granddaughter growing up thinking it's okay to marry a black guy? like, i get that people have their convictions, and it's not like i want to flaunt it in front of them. so, like, what are they going to do? like, are they going to go out to a public outing? and if they see an interracial couple, are they going to be like, we want you to leave because i don't want my granddaughter thinking it's okay. it's just -- i still don't know how to process all of this. >> for someone who has been going, for stella, who has been going to that church all of her life, she was expecting some support from them. but, you know, everyone just fell off the bandwagon and has passed really harsh judgment on her and on us. and the family too. >> well, we got a lot of feedback from you. i've been reading it here and talking to a lot of you this morning on twitter. here's some of what you all had to say. one saying, i feel really bad for the interracial couple. it's 2012, practically, and our views on interracial dating have hardly changed. another saying, it's silly for us to pretend racism doesn't exist today. sadly, this is just another example. another from bobby saying that the church is still the most segregated hour on sunday in 2011. no surprise. and another from eddie saying it's disgusting, but they should be allowed to do what they want. hopefully they will see how bad the policy is. thank you for those comments. keep the conversation with you all going this morning. quick break. but first, you know, the list of most popular baby names of 2011, it's out. lots of new parents are getting their inspiration from pop cultures, including the kardashians and the "twilight" movies. i've got the list for you next. stay with me. it's real milk full of calcium and vitamin d. and tastes simply delicious. for those of us with lactose intolerance... lactaid® milk. the original 100% lactose-free milk. for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america. they met with the branch manager and they said, "look, we've got this little hot dog cart, and it's on a really good corner. let's see if we can buy the property." and the branch manager said, "all right, i will take a chance with the two of you." and we've been loyal to bank of america for the last 71 years. all right. a look at the most popular baby names for the year. i'll show these to you. number one on the list, boys, you see there, aiden followed by jackson and then mason. mason is the name of one of the kardashian's babies. which kardashian? i'll mess it up. it's courtney kardashian named her child mason. "twilight" saga had a couple names in the top five for boys and girls. you see jacob there is fifth. and jacob is a wolf, right? i haven't seen these movies. you all forgive me. isabella, the main character as far as the girls names goes, the main character in the "twilight" series. also, emma is second on the list.

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