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[the m mark lanegagan bands "stranange religioion"] - seatattle, a citity with a collecective identntity constantntly in fluxux, always c changing, bubut what it't's always b bn and contininues to bee is a magnenet for creaeators o come e experimentt and toto make theieir own. ♪ ♪ whoa, , and weed i is lelegal here.. - ♪ i took a a walk ♪ ♪ thrhrough thiss beauautiful worlrld ♪ ♪ felt the e cool rainn on my y shoulder ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ foundnd somethingng good♪ ♪ in ththis beautififul world♪ ♪ i felt ththe rain getting cocolder ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ sha la a la-la-la ♪ ♪ sha l la la-la-lala-la ♪ ♪ shaha la la-la-a-la ♪ ♪ shaha la la-la-a-la-la la ♪ ♪ ♪ [upbeat mumusic] ♪ ♪ - seattle e has alwaysys been a placee where e you can gogo to reieinvent yoururself. ♪ ♪ it's a p place that,t, on thehe surface, would seem to require commitment. ♪ ♪ famoususly gray, r rainy, not paparticularlyly friend, and all ththe way up t thee inin the far c corner of the c country, a placace where yoyou could gt wowork in the e aircraft i iy or make e music or, rathther notorioiously, becocome a seriaial killer.. whwhether outftfitting proross duringng the alaskskan gold h or lookiking for somome kindf creded from the e music scen. itit's always s boom or bubu. now, it't's a new kikind of boo. microsoft, google, twitter, expedia, a and amazonn are e the big dodogs in town. a flooood of them,m, techch industry y workers, moststly male, derisivelyly referred d to asas tech boysys or tech b , rarapidly chananging the da ofof the city,y, rewiring i it to satisisfy ththeir own nenewly empowewed nerdrdly appetitites. meet ourur new applele martrtini-drinkiking overloro. - ♪ tech boysys ♪ - ♪ t tech boys ♪ ♪ ♪ - ♪ tech boysys ♪ - ♪ t tech boys ♪ - ♪ tech h boys ♪ - ♪ tech boboys ♪ ♪ ♪ - ♪ tech h boys ♪ - ♪ tech boboys ♪ ♪ ♪ -- ♪ witith your musustache and yourur paycheck k ♪ ♪ andnd your blueue badge ♪ ♪ andnd your limpmp dick ♪ ♪ witith your mououth full of thehe party linine ♪ ♪ and your r weekends workining overtimeme ♪ ♪ overtimime, overtimime, ovovertime, ovovertime ♪ - fish a and chips i is the ththing, rightht? - ththat's the t thing. - - yeah. - astra a elane and duststin pattersrson are e members ofof the localal d the godsds themselveves. they wrorote a songg abouout the new w kids in tot. okay.. pacific ininn pub is a holdldout, a plplace that h has, so far, mamanaged to r resist the temptatation to a appease thehe invader. for lulunch, fish and c chips. - ♪ t tech boys ♪ - you u know, bitttter old... like m me, of coururse, are gonna a complain a any tie we hear ababout, you k know, a lot of h high-fivingng white s comingng to town.. and yet,t, you've crcreated ts sort o of iconic h hate anthm can n you tell t the tech pepe frfrom the nonon-tech peopop? - - yeah, theyey have the badgeses. ♪ tecech boys ♪ - neututral-colorered clothin. - ♪ tech boboys ♪ - they'r're kind of f easy to s. ththey have a a walk. - ththey have a a walk? - - yeah. theyey're just a all the sam. there's s nothing ththat realally stands s out about t . theyey're so dulull. - [laughs]s] - ♪ feel ththat rhythmm that alglgorithm ♪ ♪ you gototta feel ththat rhyt♪ ♪ that alalgorithm tech boyoys ♪ - you knknow, datingng apps are reallyly big here.e. i have a f few girlfririends.. - that's r right. - who o have dateded a couplele of tech b boys. - isis their perersonal hyhygiene an i issue? - lilike, the nenerdier tetech boys wiwill have ththat smell,, thatat mildewy s smell. - - yeah. - yoyou know whahat i'm m talking ababout? - wow,w, you realllly have a low opininion of thehese peo. - well, , we're geneneralizig now, tonony. - nono, i'm all l for that.. [laughghter] - evererybody in s seattle is a musicician, a seririal killer,r, or a chf as farar as i'm coconcerned so. [laughteter] inin a lot of f ways, i meme, thisis was alwayays a companany. you know, , boeing, bebefore boboeing, it w was a loggiging. and the nenew companyy is tech,h, and it i is floodingng money ininto the plalace. i looked o out my hotetel winw and, i m mean, it's cranenes as far a as the eyeye can see.e. - you u realize, l like, o, all ththose craneses out t, ththey're forr high-r-rise condosos. they're fofor a certaiain type o of person.. they're enenvisioning g a certn type o of future f for the ciy and itit's tech pepeople. - or, yoyou know, sosomebody whwho likes toto drive aroround and pickck up hitchhhhikers anand dismembeber them. - yeahah. [lauaughs] [u[upbeat rockck music] - capitotol hill is s seattles establblished gay-y-borhood going g back to the mimid-1960s, olold-school c cool, but with e every passising da, changege. the hill h has become e the nw weekenend stompingng ground of brereeders fromom the e tech compapanies, and the e locals are displeleased. ♪ ♪ jojohn criscititello, street artrtist, isis waging a a one-man war agagainst the e rent hikes that arere pushing p people e him m out of thehe neighborh. ♪ ♪ arare we talkiking about an infestatation of tetech bros? - - [laughs] - is thihis-- whwhat, ten yeyears ago, w wd ththis be a gagay neighbororh? - itit was sort t of unclaimd for r artists anand for queeeer people.. - - and so whahat's hahappening nonow? - big g tech corpoporations tt have m moved into o the city and peopople needed d someplaco liveve, so a lotot of develolopment compmpanies bobought up evevery cornere. ifif they keepep this sortrtf fafacade, theyey can buildld t. - ah.. - so thihis was justst this and ththen they plplunked ths down i in the centnter of it. - soso they're k keeping thehe characteter of the n neighborhod sort o of kind of.f. - they c call it facacadomy. i've h heard it tetermed fafacadomy. ♪ ♪ ththe problem,m, of courses, is t that rents s double. - righght. - so y you used toto be able toto get a stutudio apapartment fofor $700. now, allll of a sudddden the e entry poinint is $1,50, whwhich is cononsiderable e r arartists, anynybody. you u know, thatat's the e sort of lalament now i, whwhere are yoyou gonna gog? where e are you gogonna go? - - yeah. - where arare you gonnnna go? - - right. so allll these oututsiders coming inn are e renting expensivive apartmenents. what kinind of busininesses are openining to accomommodae these nenew arrivalsls? - wewell, in thihis neighboror, thatat constructction over on thatat side is a a whole fooo. - - oh, no, ththat's a sigign of thehe apocalypspse. - - that is ththe end. - that--ththat's the o officil inindicator ththat this n neighborhooood is... - that is s the end. that's i it right ththere. [cymbal crcrash] - bebecause of t the boom anand everythihing thatat's been hahappening, yoyou do have e that kind d ofe and haveve nots herere. and i thinink there'ss an idedentity crisisis where peopople are statartingo really queuestion what is seseattle anand who is i it? but hihistoricallyly, you gogo back to t the '90s, i memean, it wasas the cityty of grungege. and d now, i wouould say itit's the citity of geeksks. it's's--it's--itit's boom ton righght now. - and yeahah, this kinind of bm does h happen in o other plac, but t then againin, it doeoesn't. [upbeat mumusic] - john cook k and todd b bishp of geekwkwire, an industrtry-leading g news sie that s started covovering the techch industryy backck in 2011.. lulunch is at t revel righghn the strereet from ththeir off. the e chef is rarachel yangg and the e food is kokorean. [u[upbeat musisic] ♪ ♪ toto eat, cilalantro noodldl, yu choy, a and thinly y slid flat iroron steak..... ♪ ♪ kimchihi pancakes s with braised popork belly and bebean sproutsts... ♪ ♪ maririnated shorort rib ricece l with housese sambal dadaikon, kimchi, , and egg. ♪ ♪ and shorort rib dumpmplings topped w with pickckled shallolot anand scallionon salad. ♪ ♪ of c course, i'm'm hearing f m a lolot of peoplple who arare bemoanining the lossf ththe old seatattle... - riright. - ththis invasioion of o outsiders.. - certainlnly the commmmunity isis going thrhrough a lolot of growiwing pains and there'e's an elemement of thehe city herere that is s rebellingg against t the progreress, especiallyly as we talalk abot a companany like amamazon that c controls massive amamounts of the d downtown real estatate footprinint now. and ththat's what t scares a lot of p people herere, inclcluding myseself. becaususe i see hohow the trenes of hisistory changnge, espepecially in n technology, that o one day micicrosoft's h, ththe next dayay apple's h h, now amamazon's hotot. they go ththrough ththese cycleses and they d don't alwayays live t through thehem, and we're e left withth a city that's's totally t transformeded because e of it. - what p percentage e of the tl dollarar-generatining space on thehe internett is occccupied by p porn? - [l[laughter] - well, , you know,, this i is todd's e expertise so i'll l defer to h him. - histororically the adult t industry,, evenen if it's n not completey domiminating thehe economics all the e time, it i is the-- the leaderer of technonology. it--it's t the first with hd. it's the f first to trtry out a new waveve of 3-d tetechnolo. virtual rereality, augmented d reality, and thenen you see i it over a and over agagain, the latestst is vr nowow. - yeyeah. dodo you know w the-- do you k know the nunumber oe search t term on pororn websis for the seseattle areaea? [swing m music] ♪ ♪ ststepmom. [laughghter] who o wants to. theieir stepmo? [laughteter] ♪ ♪ jesusus. [shuhudders] jen mcewewen and jesesse ads are twtwo nice peoeople who've chohosen the porn b business as a wayay to make a a livi. theyey launched d mikandi, the world'd's first mobile a app store for maststurbators and aficicionados of graphic erotitica. bubut they arere looking a ah, the next l levels of p porn-- personalizized, interaracti, virtual l reality poporn. -- i'm gonnnna tease yoyou. - anand i can tetell you, my fririends, it's c chillingly y realist. ♪ ♪ generarally speakiking, whwho are yourur customerss demomographicalllly? - mostly m male, but, , yeah, s really f from all ovover the wo. - righght. - ththey're lookoking for moe uniqique experieiences anand i think k that's whyhy s vevery importatant for theh. and jujust also a lot of p people who o say they d discovered d their sexuxy and their r identity through ststuff lilike this. - whwhat the adudult industry is r really goodod at isis whatever r your spececific intererest is, we'll l find the e exact persrson for youou or thehe exact pieiece of conontent. - like--lilike amazon n does. - yeah. - so, totony, based d on yourur previous s purchases, you knknow, we canan recommed the e followingg stepmomom-related d material. - yeah.. - [lauaughter] - dodo you want t to see some vr poporn? - yeahah. - yeahah. [laughs] - all riright. [upbpbeat music]c] - okayay. - [laughs]s] ♪ ♪ [l[laughter] - oh, , my god, here we e go. - [laughghs] - nonow, should d i look behind me?e? 'cauause i don't't want to gt spit r roasted herere. okay. [laughghter] - hey therere. - wow. yeah, that's k kinda scaryry. [laughghter] ♪ ♪ [laughghter] it's good.d. - - [laughs] [upbeat t music] ♪ ♪ -- weed, smsmoke, ganja, reeeefer, call it whwhat you wilill, it's's marijuanana. ohoh, i could d go on all day.y. lolong story s short, washingtonon state lelegalized weweed in 20121, and i plan to make the most of it while e scrupuloususly adherio the lay ofof the law like i i always dodo. ♪ ♪ ththe options s availablee in p places likeke this, emerald d haze, are mindnd-boggling.g. ♪ ♪ - well, , how can ii help youou out todayay? - well, i-i-- where e to begin?? - wherere to beginin? - there is a a dizzying g arry of produducts. yoyou got dozezens of straras of bud, oioils to vapepe, weeded-infused e edibles, mintnts, syrups, ointntments, prprobably lube. remind me toto ask. my advdvice, don't't even try to s shop stoneded. dedecision makaking was nen, in my casese, a strongng pot while bakeked. whwhich--whichch-- whicich is sleepepy-- i forgetet, is it inindica oror sativa ththat's peppyy and d the other r one isis sleepy? - the indidica will puput you "inda" cououch. - on thehe couch. - it's gononna be your sleepepy body higigh. - righght. - sativava is gonna a be more of your awawake alert h high kind of momostly feeliling in t the head. - riright, like e crouched in the batathroom in t the fetal p position papad oror what? - - [laughs] not like t that crazy.y. - - yeah, no,, okay, , good. i think k let's do some of f both. - some of f both? - - yeah. what do yoyou have on offer h here? - we do hahave a deal l on our papack of threree today..... - mmmm-hmm. - from holollingsworthth, whicich they hadad the blblueberry kukush... - yes.s. - the alalaskan thununder... and ththen also a dutch h treat, which willll be momore of a hyhybrid. - i memean, i haveve to-- alaskan ththunder... i meanan, you kindnd have to. - [lauaughs] - this----this is frfrom our frfriends at---- - yeyeah, these e are from hollingsgsworth, which isis very nicece. [upbpbeat music]c] ♪ ♪ - two hohours outsidide of seae lieses hollingswsworth cannabis c company fararm. the woods s are alive e with, well, weed.. rorows and rowows of weedd carefully y grown and d tended o by onene family, third geneneration seaeattles the hohollingswortrths. and d at the helelm of the companany, these g guys, brotother and sisister duo,, raftft and joy h hollingsworo. - oh, hi!! didn't s see you thehere. - wawait, hold o on. oh, , hi. didn't't see you t t. - - didn't seeee you therer. - lelet me say t that. - then y you say ththe rest of the shit.. - no, i i can't rememember-- - okay, wewe're gonna a do i. - i'm joy y hollingswoworth. i i got it. - - oh, hi. say it, sasay it. - let's takeke a--let's s tae a clcloser look,k, shall we? - [lauaughs] ♪ ♪ - whilile some cororporate outs are rushining to cash h in on the n new crop, the hohollingswortrth cannabisis y is doing i it a slowerer, momore personanal way. solar-popowered greeeenhous, hand-t-trimmed bududs, anand hand-pacacked bags ensurere the freshshest and highesest quality y of produc. ththey're keepeping it all in t the family.y. raft r runs the mamanufacturig anand growing.g. joy dodoes the prorocessing and sasales. auntie c came out ofof retitirement toto assist wiwith ththe oil cartrtridges. dadad puts lababels on the pacackaging, and mom fifills the [indisistinct] rololls and asassists in qualitity control.l... - that's f fine, thatat's fine. - asas i will anand have and will a again. ♪ ♪ baback in the e city, mamnoon rerestaurant on melelrose. hahave you been here e before? - - absolutelyly. this i is a good s spot. how w you doing?g? - i'veve been smokoking some f yourur product,, so if i'm m a little unfocusesed... - [laughs]s] - bebefore thiss you did?d? - whatat's that? - beforere-- - [l[laughter] - beforere this, yeses. he said,d, what, what, whatat, what? [lauaughter] [upbeat t music] ♪ ♪ - mamnoooon is a modern t take on traraditional s syrian and lebabanese food.d. and it's's done wellll. ♪ ♪ ththere's bahaharat spiceded f and lambmb kebabs..... ♪ ♪ frfried caulififlower with tahinini... ♪ ♪ a summer f fatteh withth lol squash a and charreded tomats totopped with h sizzling brown n butter andnd pine nut. ththat's sweetet-and-sour re wrwrapped in g grape leave. ♪ ♪ - this looooks so goodod. - the hummmmus is greaeat. - - this is mymy favoritee cuisine.e. ♪ ♪ - so how's's business?s? - itit's been anan interestig threree years, because e i feel likike everery year we've beenen, like, refiningng the procecess and trtrying to get betttter. we're e the littlele guys. - right nonow we're e mom-and-popop. - - yeah, we'r're the mom-m-an, but see,e, the diffeference s wawashington s state seset up the l law to t try to helplp mom-and-p-s geget started.d. - - how did yoyou convincee the fafamily? - yeah. - this m must have s seemed le a a sketchy veventure. - yeyes. - itit was a gamamble. - he s said, hey,, i got a a family meeeeting. i need y you here totonight. and we're e all sittining thee and he p puts on his littlele powerpoinint on t the tv, anand it's abobout 32 pageg, and hehe tells us,s, "hey, , we need toto go to mason coununty, grow a t ton of weeded," and d we're all l like, what are y you talkingng abou? and d my mom raiaises her had and d she goes, , "wait, i haveve somethingng reallyly importantnt." wewe all look k at her andnde gogoes, "i wananna be r&d.. cacan i smoke e and tell y u if t the weed isis good?" and ththen all of f a sudden he startrts moving.. - my busininess plan e ended at "get a licicense." toto get a licicense it w was to builild a fence,e, put t up some cacameras... - right. - and geget out the e way. then they'y'll come, give youou a final i inspecti, and now w you are lilicensed to grow weweed in the statate of w washington.n. - hohow many peoeople grow w , dodo you thinknk, inin the seattttle, washshington statate region? - - oh, yeah, , there's a a . - ththere's a lolot. - - there's ovover 1,100 producerer processerers in washingngton statee and d about 400 0 licensed retail s stores. - wewe--everybodody's goining to win.. - there's s so many pepeople ofl differerent types s that smokek. we d did a storere visit andnd w people comome in and o out, grgrandmas, momoms, profofessionals.s. like, i'i'm sure if f that ste took d demographicics ofof their clilientele.... - right.t. - theyey would havave a specectrum of dififferent typype of peoeople. - peopople le to get h hig. what do o they wantt these e days? there's soso many chchoices. - our bibiggest sellller are the pre-rorolls. people l like reready-made c cannabis. - theyey want to b buy and geget high. - loloose jointsts. - loloose jointsts, most peoeo- - really?? - theyey don't--pepeople dont like t to roll theheir own-- - they d don't know w how to rololl joints.. - no.. - - people, teteach yoyour childreren well. i meanan, this iss a basisic life skikill. - whatat do you smsmoke? - - well, i lilike to smokok- as i--asas i said, i like t to smoke weweed. now, t the alaskanan thunder.. it wasas an irresisistible paca. - alaskakan thunder.r... - yeahah. - that's's old-schooool hells s angels, that's's their--ththat's theieir old-schohool strain.n. - did you u smoke it?? - yeah.. i can't cocompare and contrarast, becacause i've b been tryingngm alall one afteter the otheh. - riright. - - [laughter]r] - i memean, i've b been smsmoking weeded since i w wa. - riright. - - you know, , all the babadt that----that was s supposed to happepen if you,, you know, , smoked toooo much w, didndn't really y happen. but lolooking intoto my ownwn life, you u know, i'veve seen my ambitioion, you u know, therere were thihs i i was thinkiking about d dg but, you k know, once e i stat smoking sosome good weweed, it's's like... - [laughghter] - eh. [laughghter] ♪ ♪ - okay, , i'm good.. [laughs]s] [upbeat t music] [classicalal music] - in a a nondescriript-lookig buililding in bebellevue, some verery smart pepeople e lookining into thihings like howow to stop h hurricans beforere they happppen... ♪ ♪ enending malararia, and hohow to makee the e perfect hahamburger. nathanan myhrvold d is the foror chief techchnology offfficer of microrosoft. a gegenius, an i inventor, and a a very wealtlthy man who'o's free to o indulge his passssions, most n noticeablyy for r cooking and all ththings food.d. ♪ ♪ over t the last yeyears, hehe and his t team have publilished an incredidibly lavishsh anan authoritatative serieis ofof books, "m"modernist c cuisine," dededicated toto debunking popupular miscononceptions and d documentining the resuss wiwith the besest highgh-tech phototography and grgraphic art t imaginabl. ♪ ♪ head c chef francicisco miga is l leading thehe team into a a new missision now, demystififying breadad for r all of us.s. ♪ ♪ pepeople like e me, somemeone who's s cooked hihis whole lilife, i live i in terror o of-- of b bread, ananything thahat rises, in fact, like a a horse, senses my y fear... - [lauaughs] - and d insecurityty, and mimisbehaves.. i mean, i'i'm tenuouss with anyny doughs. you know, , i've seen n peopleo work w with it allll the tim. they'r're slappingng it aroud like i it's nothining. i'm... like this s and it alwlways gogoes wrong o on me. it's's just nevever... - yeyeah. - quite e right. wilill your w work help m me in my--- - it w will help y you, totony. ♪ ♪ - brbread is actctually amazingly y robust. althouough we've g got lots o of recipes,s, recipes s aren't as s importat as underststanding sorort of the e fundamentatals ofof what's gogoing on. and d once you d do, it's's--it's reay ququite forgiviv. ♪ ♪ - fefew things are momore mysteririous and ununknowable than thehe bagel. cacan one, pererhaps, create thehe perfect b bagl anand with topoppings that donon't fall ofoff? as a n new yorker,r, i'm m inclined t to say no,, but nonow i-- i'm not susure. and whwhat is thisis, brbread in a j jar? but--but w what? what----what is going onon here? - this is s the kind o of sickck thing we e do. we wonderered, coululd you can n bread? by godod, you can. thisis is rum bababas... - oh, , i love thehem. - - which is a a bread inn the sesense it useses yeast.. - yes. - and we c canned themem. now, w watch what t happens whenen we open i it up. [laughghs] isn'n't that awewesome? ♪ ♪ - it's's really gogood. and hohow long wilill this stay in ththere? - nine mononths anand it's gooood. - so i'd h have perfecectly frfresh bread d in nine momos if i j just pop ththe top onon that thining? ♪ ♪ look, , you know, , jaded coos and d chefs likeke me... ♪ ♪ theyey still finind there are certrtain unknowowables or thingngs that cauause themo pause e in the kititchen and gazeze with wondnder at t the magic of somomething likike bread. araren't you a afraid thatat in some e way you're d doing satanan's work here by y quantifyining magi? food is s a very roromantic thing. it's u usually expxperienced at best in a an emotionanal way. - - absolutelyly. - by explalaining it---- - absolulutely it's's emotionalal. ababsolutely it can b be art. but knowining how toto do it rigight, to me,e, doesn't diminishsh that. - hmm. across thehe water from my y hotel in the p puget soundnd, jujust outsidede the city y , the wildererness opensns up and d it's beaututiful. [the m mark lanegagan bands "blue blblue sky"] - ♪ lord of f fire in thehe sk♪ ♪ getetting levelel neon dev♪ ♪ holy, hololy in my mimind ♪ ♪ to abide and crucify ♪ ♪ with blueue, blue seaea ♪ ♪ far a away ♪ ♪ ♪ - on v vashon islaland, a a clambake with d dungeness c crab, spspot prawns,s, mussels,, cornrn, and potatatoes cocovered in k kelp and ststed together u under burlalap. old-d-school. - ♪ lord of f fire in thehe sk♪ ♪ gettiting level....." - dig g in. - ♪ neon n devil ♪ ♪ hololy, holy inin my mind ♪ ♪ to abidide and crucucify♪ ♪ with blueue, blue seaea ♪ ♪ far away y ♪ ♪ ♪ - chefs granant crilly and chriris young worked w with nathanan at m modernist c cuisine befofore breakining off to do ththeir own ththing, chefstepeps, a a high-tech h outfit dedicated d to help pepeope cook betteter withth step-by-s-step video appsps and inteteractive coconten. - [lauaughs] - - essentialllly the wayy we look k at it is ouour job is t to helplp people cocook, cook a m meal for ththeir fami, cookok a meal fofor their frfrs where theyey're happy y and dit know thehey could cocook that w. - - yeah. - 'cause w we're kind d of techchnologists,s, too, we thinknk, you knowow, theres a rollll for technhnology, but t there's alalso a rolll for--f-for craft and trtradition. - - i think ththere's an elementnt of uncertrtainty and risksk that is v very excig to m me when i c cook. you knknow, it's the impeperfections s in life thatat are most t interestin. if everyrybody knew w how to sauce paststa correctltly, i don't knknow that that wouould make meme happie. - the kitctchen is a p pretty sy placace for a lolot of peopl, anand so if--i-if you cann bring tetechnology and itit takes thahat fear awy becacause they k know that itit's gonna c come out wewe, ththey're gonnnna be happyy withth the resulult, that'll get themem to cook a again. comingng from the e guys who, u knowow, wrote "m"modernist c cu" we're tryiying to findnd that 21st-centutury blend between n youtube anand instagm and d technologygy... - right. - and totools like t that with t the things s that are e great abouout cooking, which h is sharingng a meal. - i think k you're misissing a cecentral dynanamic here.. i mean, whwhy do peoplple inststagram pictctures of fof? to sharere their wononderful eating expxperience? n no. it's's to make o other peoplpll bad about t what they'y're eat. it's like,e, look, i'm'm eg all thesese incredibible cs and yoyou're sittiting at hoe in somome, you knonow, didirty underwrwear eatiting doritosos. i i mean, hopepefully. - i meanan, doritoss are prpretty tastyty. [laughghter] [dramatic c music] [upbeat mumusic] [upbeat pipiano music]c] - it is probobably unfaiair toto suggest that thehe pacific n northwt and seatattle area could d have been n home toa dispsproportionanally large er of sererial killerers, bubut i'll do o it anyway. - shshucked taylylor oystersrs. - - wonderful.l. thank youo. - anytything elsee i can n grab you g gentlemen? - oh, i'i'm good fofor now. - good foror now? all right,t, enjoy. - i'm gonnnna try a fafat bast, that s sounds inteteresting. freded moody is s a writer and babartender. jack whihisner is a a transt plannener for kingng county m. anand knute beberger is a joururnalist andnd columnt for "seattttle weekly.y." old-d-school seaeattle all.. taylor shehellfish oysyster br in pioioneer squarare is oldld-school, t too. the e taylor famamily has bn fafarming morere than 12,0,00s of tidelanands inin the pugetet sound, willapa a bay, and the hohood canal for over f five generaratio, since e 1890. with three restaurants in town, they know what t they're doioin. are e you gonnaa eat thesese whole? head, tatail, bones s and al? - - yes. - whwhole, localal smelt flash frfried and seserved withh pepppperoncini s sambal aio, locacal dungenesess crab cooked a and chilleded withth pickled g ginger sau, and oyststers, lolots of oyststers. ♪ ♪ seattltle has beenen for-- for a veryry long timeme coconsidered o one of ththe more foooodie, for lack o of a betterer word, fofoodie citieies. - yeyeah. - - if you asksk me why, g geny itit's said ththe sheer ababune of realllly good ingngredient. - yeah, exexactly. i m mean, u got the e ocean therere. you've gotot cattle cocountry and orcharard countryy just ovever the moununtains. - - yeah. - ththey say onene of the thts ththat's changnged in seatate is therere's not jusust the e pike placece market bubut every neneighborhoodd has a a market nowow. - has a grgreen marketet. - yeahah. so those e entrepreneueurs haveve a place t to sell. they can g go to all t the mars or jusust some of f them, but t it's realllly fantasti. - - so everybobody born and breded in seattltle? - i i was, yeah.h. - born h here? - - yes. - bebellingham,, which isis-- - - oh, sure, , serial kililr cacapital of t the world.. - [laughteter] - ththere's a babar there where e both ted b bundy anand the greeeen river kikir hahad been patatrons, yeyeah. - bubundy was boborn in tacoa and d that's-- - righght. - therere are two,o, right? - ththe hillsidede stranglere. - - hillside s strangler a a. - also thehe beltway s snipe. - - right. - the e worst one e was the e green rivever killer.. - yeyeah. - why y is seattlele, the e pacific nonorthwest, such a magagnet for serial k killers? anany theori? - you knowow, people c come he to hide e out. they----they thinknk, well--ty look a at the map p and it's l - - got two o mountain r ranges are just a a couple hohours aw. - liteterally, youou can hide bodieses like a shshort drive fromom wherever r you are. - so cononvenient body dumumping? - - body dumpiping. - - [laughter]r] - i mean, , that's gotta be p part of it.t. you u have all t that lulush greenerery. - if you'r're lookingg to dump p a body, seseattle. [lauaughter] - - yeah. i've a always thouought the rn was kikind of partrt of it. you gogot to that t stretch from mayaybe octoberer toto february,y, and by ththee you're in n february,, i i mean, you-u--you want t tou want to bebecome a sererial kil. i memean, you knknow. - - that's parart of it. - but appaparently youou can. [lauaughter] -- is seattttle a teemiming he of sererial killerers? or a am i just a an idiot wiwita morbrbidly overaractive imagagin and anan attractioion to the dark, , ugly side e of l? meet retetired homicicide dedetective mimike ciesynsi whwho, for ovever 12 yearsr, specializezed in cold d cases in the regegion. wewe meet at t the shanghaham in greenenwood where frfred moody t tends ba. the north h star dinerer nextr provovides nouririshment. crab, , bacon, and melteded cheese isis, when disiscussing dudump sis and liligature mararks, a must. why does it seem that there's a disproportionate number of seriaial killers s in the see anand washingtgton state a a? do you h have a theoeory on th? - wewell, i don'n't think that most t serial kilillers arare--are--wewent shoppining for areaeas where e they live.e. this is jujust where they endeded up. - mm-hmmmm. - whwhen you're e a detective for as l long as i'v've been a detectivive and d you're aroround vevery evil pepeople, it's's a place w where i donon't you to havave to come e and loot througugh my eyes.s. i mean, , i can talklk to you about itit and all t that, but i hohope you nevever have to see i it like i s seen it, 'c'cause, you u know, it's's n- it's a d different p place. it's's a place y you don't t want to bebe, and-- - hohow many--hohow many working seserial killers do you thihink are out there e right noww in the w washington n state area? - i i would say,y, i mean, easily rigight now, easily o over 75 peoeople out t here that a are probablbly serialal murderersrs. the fbi list it as-- - whoaoa! 75. - oh, yeahah. i dodon't care how nice i it is here,e, you knknow, fun seseattle anand stuff, y you know. i know howow many evilil people are runnining around h here. ♪ ♪ - so... dodo you thinknk these guye holding dodown regularar j? - - well, yeahah. theyey can--theyey can just t n and have t their, you know, , regular, whatat would seeeem to us as a regegular life.e. they couould also have wivives. - - yeah, i wawas wonderinig abouout that. i always w wonder ababout the wiwives. itit's like, d don't you n no, you know, , the mementntos anand the unususual odor coming f from the crcrawl spa? i mean, , what-- - john wayayne gacy, e exactly. - - i mean, whwhat the.... - you u know, and d just what's w with the whwhole clclown outfitit? - - i mean, fifirst of allll, au gotta dodo is put onon a clown t and d already yoyou're-- you're a s suspect. - [chuckckles] [upbeaeat music] ["["phantasmagagoria bluese] - ♪ i have gigiven to youou, ja♪ ♪ a torn n and tatterered lov♪ ♪ b but do you u hear ththe tolling g bells ♪ ♪ that t ring down n from abov♪ ♪ i thougught i'd rulule like charlemagngne ♪ ♪ b but i've bebecome corruru♪ ♪ n now i crawlwl the promemen♪ ♪ to fifill my emptpty cup ♪ ♪ andnd you're frfree ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you're frfree again ♪ ♪ onene more timeme ♪ ♪ ♪ - mamark laneganan is to my mindnd one e of the grereatest livg sisinger-songwgwriters makiking music t today. hihis songs anand lyrics reflectitive of a long, , hard lifee cut me r right downn to t the bone. hihis career h has spanned two o decades beginnnning with t the scscreaming trtrees in thehe s anand continuiuing through numerorous brilliliant collababoratios wiwith artiststs like queens of f the stone e ag, pj hararvey, kukurt cobain,n, unkle, m mad season,n, ththe gutter t twins, isobel camampbell, and massssive attackck. maybybe you knowow him from h theme songngs as... this show.w. [t[the mark lalanegan bands "wededding dressss"] ♪ ♪ wow. - spicy.y. - - yeah, thatat's good. dinner witith mark andnd toug guitararist jeff f fielder at ocho o in ballardrd, where ththey serve u up genenerous drinknks and spananish-influeuenced tapa. ♪ ♪ yoyou grew up p around, whwhat, two hoururs outside e of seatt? - yeah, inin easterern washingtgton, which isis like ththe countrysyside, ranching,, farmining communitity. - you dodon't live h here anym. you u live in l.l.a. now? - yeahah. - how w long sincnce you leftft? - ohoh, it's beeeen 20 years. - oh, wow.w. - but i cocome back hehere, yoyou know, a coupuple times a a year. i play shohows. i i still haveve family ini- in t the city, and i thinink of it as home, s still. you u know, i alalways will. it's j just-- it's thehe home i i don't liveve in anymoro. ♪ ♪ ♪ will you u put on thahat longng white dreress ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ whilele i burn when thehere's no momore ♪ ♪ tomomorrows? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ will l you walk w with me undergrounund ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and f forget all l the sadne♪ ♪ andnd the sorrorows? ♪ ♪ ba dada da da ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ba dada da da da a ♪ ♪ ♪ - so h how long hahave you ben playaying music c professionon? - wellll, kind off the whwhole time, , you know. i mean, i i played my y first s when i i was 13. i'veve been toururing with-- with m mark since ababout 2010.. - whatat was the f first band,dt time you w were ever o onstag? and wherere was it?? - itit was in mymy hometown, i was s 15, and someme guys i woworked inin a restaururant with had d a band. they were e older. anand i sang a at one poolol y that they y had. - - what was t the set lisist there,e, covers oror? - a lolot of van h halen. - oh, , wow. - styxyx. - - oh, brutalal. [lauaughter] you u have playeyed and playayeh a lot of d different p people fromom differentnt styles o of music. i think a a lot of mususicians i i know and h have met wowould- would hahave a hardd time witith that. you seem t to move efeffortlesslyly around. - i i don't knowow, i'veve just beenen blessed with a lotot of opportrtunit. i get toto play withth a lot f people w whose musicic i reallye so i i'm happy.. you knowow, after hahaving been my o own band fofor many yeae, and d suddenly, , like, i'i'm taking j jobs whwhere i'm jujust playingng t of somebodody's set, at firirst it wass a littttle awkwardrd, but ththen i grew w to realally love dodoing it becacause it wasas easy and d fun and there e s nono pressur. i i did that f for quitite a few yeyears, and i'm avavailae to do ththat agan if anynybody wantsts me. [lauaughs] [l[laughter] ♪ ♪ ♪ o on the marbrble street ♪ ♪ a procecession spilills in♪ ♪ at the whwhite sea wawall ♪ ♪ w waves crashsh and crashsh a♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ darknkness shinining ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ thehen disappeaearing ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ day f follows nigight ♪ ♪ night f follows dayay ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ gooood-bye ♪ ♪ good-d-bye to beaeauty ♪ ♪ gooood-bye ♪ ♪ good-bye e to beauty y ♪ ♪ ♪ - you-u--are you at all s sentimentalal ababout how seseattle usused to be?? - you knknow, i i guess it's's-- it's like e being sentntimentl about grgrade schoolol oror, you knowow, any y time of yoyour life that isnsn't aroundd anymore.e. i mimiss--i missss some of t ths that werere around t then that a aren't arouound anymymore, you k know, some o of my frienends, but, y you know, that's l life. ♪ gooood-bye to b beauty ♪ ♪ ♪ [upbeat mumusic] [thehe mark lanenegan bands "strtrange religigion"] ♪ ♪ - next to mamaking a a proper omemelet or l like wipingng yourur own ass,, knowowing how toto rollll a joint is an esessential life s skill for any y self-respepecting member o of society y in my . pay attetention, peoeople. ♪ ♪ - ♪ c can you statay here next to meme? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ w we'll just t keep drivivi♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ becausese of you i see a lilight ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ t the buick's's a centuryr♪ ♪ a '73 l like you ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ somome strange e religion ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i getet my hands s on someme money, mamama ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and a shohot in the n night♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ s stared downwn the pastt and jujust scarreded my eyes♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i almlmost calleded it a dy so many y times ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ nevever known w what it felele to be alivive ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ tilill you beenen a friend to me ♪ ♪ like e nobody elslse could b♪ ♪ mm ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ keep p my hands on the wheheel now, mamama ♪ ♪ gononna honestltly try ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ she l looked pastst the scas and ththe burned o out eyes ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you c could see i'm no e easy ride ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ shehe's just ththe kind who might t get you toto buy♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ s some strangnge religiono♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ t this jack o of diamondss kickeded her heartrt around ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ should-d-a known ththey wee walking onon holy grouound ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ a and this lilife mighght eventualally ♪ ♪ just be t the end of f me ♪ ♪ wilill i still l be with yo♪ ♪ mm ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ thehen get in n next to me♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ j just keep d drivin' ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ b because of f you i beenen a♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and t the buick's's a centur♪ ♪ a ' '73 like yoyou ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ somome strange e religion ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and thehe buick's a a centur♪ ♪ a ' '73 like yoyou ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ some strarange religigion ♪ ♪ ♪

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