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>> the last ten years, the homicide rate has increased by leaps and bounds. >> my god, somebody fired a shot! >> these tragedies keep getting closer and closer to home. i'm afraid to let my kids walk out the door. >> the interurban crime wave has touched off a new round of gun buying. >> step out, mr. bundy. >> i'll plead not guilty right now. >> there has been a disturbing growth in cult phenomenon in this country. >> i shall be god. and beside me there shall be no other. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> all the elements are present for one of the most sensational murder trials in american history. seven people brutally murdered in the glare of hollywood publicity. young girls supposedly under the spell of a bearded svengali, who allegedly masterminded the seven murders. >> the '70s is a decade of just brutal violence on every front and anywhere that you look in america. >> at the time of a mass murder, there's a lot of media coverage. but usually after a brief period of time, the identity of the perpetrator tends to fade from the public's consciousness. but not so with the manson case. it was the biggest publicity case the d.a.'s office had ever had. >> the manson trial begins the 1970s on such an evil, sadistic note. seven innocent people died. steve parent, a teenager. abigail folger, folger coffee. jay sebring. wojchiech frykowski. the labiancas. and sharon tate. >> all of you know how beautiful she was. but only a few of you know how good she was. >> and you had charles manson himself. the charismatic leader of the family who didn't show any remorse or any respect for the system. >> are you all happy with your courts? >> yes. >> good. >> are you happy? >> in i happy? it's your court. i wouldn't accept it. >> the problem was that he did not physically participate in these murders. but only manson had a motive to commit these murders. and that motive was helter skelter. >> manson envisioned that white people would turn against the black man if they thought the black man had committed these seven murders and ultimately there would be a civil war between blacks and whites. manson foresaw the black man would win this war. but later on he said the black man, because of inexperience, would simply not be able to handle the reins of power, so you'd have to look around at those white people who had survived, who had escaped from helter skelter. in other words, turn over the reins of power to charles manson and his family. >> when the words "helter-skelter" were found printed in blood, i argued to the jury this was tantamount to manson's finger prints being found at the murder scene. >> manson sat through this saying nothing, but today had an "x" scratched in his forehead. it is his way of saying he has x'd himself out of society. ♪ >> susan atkins, patricia krenwinkel and leslie van houten sang as they went to and from court today as if to show they were with manson and he is with them. >> the three women were coached by charlie every morning. here's things i want you to do. so they would do everything from sing mocking songs to the judge, to when charlie is making one of his impassioned speeches, mouthing the words along with him. >> i don't have any guilt. i know what i've done and no man can judge me. i judge me. >> are you bitter? >> bitter, no. no. >> you've paid some price so far. >> price? you have eyes? open them. >> charlie manson is a great presenter, but vincent bugliosi was better. and when you put these two antagonists into a courtroom america thought this is entertainment. >> people who are curious about the tate murders go to the los angeles hall of justice where they wait in long lines. some people are so interested that they get to the courthouse at 4:00 a.m. something else this trial has done is gathered together again those members of manson's family who are not in jail. >> the world is getting crazy. >> one read part of a letter that manson wrote the district attorney. >> i am writing to you because i don't think i'm getting a fair trial. i'm an individual, one man standing alone defending myself. contrast this with the facilities you have available to you. >> i noted, for example, the coverage of the charles manson case. here is a man who was guilty, directly or indirectly, of eight murders without reason. here is a man yet, who as far as the coverage is concerned, appeared to be rather a glamorous figure. >> "l.a. times" next morning, "manson guilty, nixon declares." manson got ahold of the paper. stands up in front of the jury with a silly little smile on his face, and he shows the jury the headline. >> a tight ring of security surrounds the hall of justice today as the manson jury deliberates. meanwhile, members of the manson clan continue their vigil outside the hall of justice. they've been there since the start of the trial. >> if charlie were convicted of these charges, what happens to the rest of the members of the family? >> there's no if. charlie will get out. all the people in jail will get out, and we'll all go to the desert together. >> the jury hearing the charges against charles manson and three girl members of his so-called family brought in its verdict this afternoon. and outside the court, manson's girl followers got the news by radio. >> they have convicted these people, and you are next. all of you. there's a revolution coming very soon. >> today the judge formally passed sentence on charles manson and his girls. the death penalty he said for seven senseless murders. he said not only was the sentence appropriate but almost compelled in this case. so death in the gas chamber, he said. >> the very name manson has become a metaphor for evil, catapulting him to almost mythological proportions. and there's a side to human nature, for whatever reason, that is fascinated by pure, unalloyed evil. >> if the death penalty is to mean anything in the state of california other than two empty words, this unquestionably was the proper case for the imposition of the death penalty. >> the california supreme court ruled today that the death penalty is unconstitutional. that will save five women and 102 men including charles manson from the gas chamber. >> should there be a supreme penalty for committing a crime? >> what do you think? >> i'm the one who's asking you. >> yeah, but if i don't give you the answer that you want -- >> doesn't matter to me. >> doesn't matter -- >> it's your opinion. >> well, i don't have the authority to say anything like that. >> you have the authority to believe. >> i believe what i'm told to believe. don't you? we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my go to toothpaste is going to be pronamel repair. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire she is fearless heart's on the line depend silhouette keeping leaks off her mind. comfortable in shapeware fabric she moves with ease. confident on nights like these. depend silhouette. the only thing stronger than us, is you. ♪ three times the electorlytes and half the sugar. ♪ pedialyte powder packs. feel better fast. hitting the road, not all 5g networks are created equal. t-mobile covers more highway miles with 5g than verizon. t-mobile has more 5g bars in more places than anyone. another reason t-mobile is the leader in 5g. my name is ami and i bought and financed my car through carvana. everything was all good but then things hit a slight snag. ok so they were trying to verify my employment status while i was at work, in a giant hole, in a mine. but then something amazing happened. hello? 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>> no doubt. >> there's the skull and the jaw bone and everything. >> when did you first get word there might be some bodies buried here? >> this morning. >> had you had any indication before? >> the man behind the killings was dean corll, 33 years old. or was. he was shot and killed wednesday evening by wayne henley, 17 years old. henley was one of two teenagers who lured young boys to corll's home. >> dean corll would pick up kids, and once he had them in his house, he would incapacitate them and put them on what he called his death board and rape and kill them. >> the texas sex and torture killings now have become the worst mass murders in american history. four more bodies of young boys were dug up today and that brings to 27 the number of bodies discovered so far. >> some people trying to make it appear that the police department has not done all that it could or should have done in these cases. the police department feels that these parents are not exactly discharging their own responsibilities so far as raising and disciplining their children. >> these shocking murders finally focus national attention on a major problem, that of runaway children and what can happen to them. >> the children that run away from home today are not the children that we had running away in the '60s. in the '60s we had what we called then flower children, and they ran away basically for socio political reasons. today children are running from a situation rather than to a situation. >> kids are disappearing, and the police would say, well, they probably ran away. it was to the demise of many who in fact were picked up by sexual sadists like john wayne gacy. >> in des plaines, illinois, near chicago, a man who served time in prison for sex crimes was let out. today they found the bodies of at least three young boys buried under his house. >> police today found six more bodies under the john gacy house. >> illinois authorities today made their first positive identification of the 28 bodies unearthed so far. >> this grisly search ended tonight and will be resumed after christmas. >> prior to his arrest, gacy was well known in the community. he frequently dressed in a clown outfit for the benefit of youngsters. he was generally seen as a man young people liked. >> the coroner of this county has seen nothing like it. >> it's frightening. that's the only word i can use, frightening. frightening. ♪ ♪ excuse me! enjoy the minions menu at ihop. for a limited time kids eat free! and catch minions: the rise of gru. it's started. somewhere between a cuddle and a struggle, it's...the side hug. tween milestones like this may start at age 9. hpv vaccination - a type of cancer prevention against certain hpv-related cancers, can start then too. for most, hpv clears on its own. but for others, it can cause certain cancers later in life. you're welcome! now, as the "dad cab", it's my cue to help protect them. embrace this phase. help protect them in the next. ask their doctor about hpv vaccination today. ugh-stipated... feeling weighed down by a backedup gut" miralax is different. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut. ...free your gut. and your mood will follow. lemons. lemons, lemons, lemons. look how nice they are. the moment you become an expedia member, you can instantly start saving on your travels. so you can go and see all those, lovely, lemony, lemons. ♪ and never wonder if you got a good deal. because you did. ♪ okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition for strength and energy. woo hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ there's a reason comcast business powers more businesses than any other provider. actually, there's a few... comcast business offers the fastest, reliable network... the protection of securityedge™ and the most reliable 5g network. want me to keep going? 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>> as i understand, a man came into the store, and he had a gun and asked for money. and my grandfather reached for a gun he had and grabbed at the man's gun, and it went off, or he shot it twice, and my grandfather fell to the floor. >> why did he feel he had to have a gun? >> because there are so many robberies in this area, and he just thought he needed it for protection. >> today ordinary citizens who would not otherwise dream of having a gun are buying one because they are scared out of their wits. >> william rubiak is a ukrainian immigrant who owns a store outside washington, d.c. he's been robbed at gunpoint four times in the past two years. now william rubiak has bought a gun, and he says next time he will use it. >> i will shoot, and i will shoot to kill. >> fear is the biggest seller of guns. studies have shown each urban crime wave has touched off a new round of gun buying. >> we have german lugars, derringers, small revolvers, magnums. some of these saturday night specials are small. they can be palmed in your hand. >> it was shortly after 10:00 california time when the president left his hotel. not seen by the following cameras but spotted by secret service agent larry buendorf was a hand with a gun in it coming through the crowd. the commotion erupted. secret service agents forced the assailant to the ground and then handcuffed her. she was identified as 27-year-old lynnette alice fromme, one of the earliest followers of charles manson, who was involved in the tate, labianca murders of 1969. >> about the same time gerald ford becomes president, charlie in prison writes to squeaky he's got new rules. they want to do one big thing that's going to get the nation's attention back on charlie. so squeaky, wearing a red robe, comes up to the president of the united states with a big gun, points the gun in his face. the secret servicemen wrestle her to the ground and squeaky's first words were, can you believe the gun didn't go off? >> following your own close brush with death in sacramento a couple of weeks ago, i wonder if this has convinced you at all that we need tough gun control legislation in this country? >> i prefer to go after the person who uses the gun for an illegal or criminal purpose. that to me is a far better approach than the one where you require registration of the individual or the gun. >> just minutes after making those statements, gerald ford walked into the street and heard the sound of gunfire. >> my god, there's been a shot! there's been a shot. they're being pushed back by the police. somebody has fired a shot here. we don't know if anybody has been hit. my god! somebody fired a shot. >> the president was not hit. witnesses heard the sound and saw a puff of smoke. the woman, identified by police as sara jane moore, was immediately seized. >> sara jane moore jumped out of the crowd, fired off a weapon and was tackled by another citizen. her background, it turned out, was as a sort of eccentric, kind of a lower-rung political figure. she was kind of an odd duck. >> when gerald ford became president, within the space of one month were two attempts on his life, squeaky fromme and sara jane moore. both tried to shoot him. it's like, what's going on? why can't this be stopped? >> so once again this nation has narrowly escaped the tragedy, the trauma of the assassination of our president. above all else, this points out the need for some additional measures, some additional precautions to protect the life of the highest elected official in the country. will it take another assassination in our lifetime to finally force some action? more protection, more sun, more joy. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologists and their families, neutrogena® for people with skin. in the '70s, new york was really in danger. the whole social fabric seemed to have been torn in half, and crime was just one of the many indications that we were lost. >> i would say the last ten years, the homicide rate has increased by leaps and bounds. we hit our peak probably in 1972 when the bronx had 430 homicides. >> in the '70s, the bronx looked like berlin after world war ii. literally looked like berlin. >> 1.5 million people live in this borough. once that smoke on the horizon signified industry, progress, jobs. now it means someone is burning down a building. it has become the arson capital of the world. it happens 30 times a day, and the flames are the signal of a national disaster. >> is there anything that can change the situation? >> the bronx, my own estimation, is doomed with a capital "d." >> a lot of gritty stuff went down in new york, and when you think of new york in the '70s you, of course, think of the son of sam murders. >> christine freund, 26 years old, soon to be married, is dead today. dead in a shooting that has no apparent motive. >> the end of 1976, they transferred me to queens homicide. and the first victim that i came across was a woman named christine freund, who was sitting in a parked car with her boyfriend coming from a movie and she got her head blown off. >> this was a series of random shootings, and the ballistic comparison determined that there was indeed the same killer using the same gun, a .44 caliber weapon on these homicides. therefore, the police nicknamed it the .44 caliber killer. >> he struck april 17th at 3:00 in the morning, killing 18-year-old valentina suriani, and her fiance, 20-year-old alexander esau as they sat in a parked car in the baychester section of the bronx. >> we got the shooting back in the bronx. a girl named valentina suriani. but at that scene where that shooting occurred left a note addressed to my supervisor, and he called himself the son of sam. >> well, he talks about being possessed by a man he refers to as sam, the man he refers to as his father. and he says that his father requires blood. >> this got people's attention. i think it was just the sheer randomness of it. the fact you could be doing something as simple as sitting in a car talking to a friend, and someone would come behind you and open fire. it was pretty terrifying. it was frightening. >> i was in charge of the nighttime operation. the task force that wanted to shoot him on sight. that was our job. take him out on the street. we flooded the streets of new york. >> there's people dying, and we're trying to stop it, okay? it's everybody. it's not you. it's everybody. that's all we're trying to do. >> okay. >> in terms of the victim count, that doesn't place him at the top of the list in terms of the most deadly serial killers, but it was new york city. what happens in new york city, well, that's international news. >> good evening. harry is on vacation. here are our top stories. 100 more police join the hunt for the son of sam killer in new york. >> the search continues for the .44-caliber killer who has come to be known as the son of sam. >> he warned in one of his sick and threatening letters to the press and to the police, sam's a thirsty lad, and he won't let me stop killing until he's had his fill of blood. >> it was a really miserably hot summer in new york. and everything went dark. and i heard someone on the street go, oh, it's a blackout! >> the looters were out almost instantly. and it felt apocalyptic. i remember going to bed that night thinking it was the end of the world. >> new york city in the early morning after a night of no electric power. what it did have in the dark streets was a wild outburst of crime. >> when the greatest city in the world goes black, it showed a crumbling america. then you have the son of sam on the loose. >> we always look for patterns in victims. there was this belief that he was only killing women with long, dark hair. >> i know the .44 killer is after girls with long brown hair. so when i go out, me and my friends go out at night, we put our hair up. >> my hair is down to my shoulder. >> it was about this length. i cut it short because of the .44 caliber killer. >> well, his last victim was actually blond. >> a 20-year-old new york city girl died this evening a day and a half after she and her companion were shot by the son of sam. he's the nighttime killer who has stalked new york residential boroughs for a year. >> a postal worker walked out of his yonkers apartment last night, turned the ignition key in his car, and found himself surrounded by police. "well," he said, "you got me." police say those words ended the biggest manhunt in new york city history with the capture of son of sam. and this is what they say tripped up the .44 caliber killer. a parking ticket. david berkowitz drove this cream-colored ford galaxie from his home in yonkers to bensonhurst, brooklyn. then police say he went to stalk his 12th and 13th victims. but in the place he parked was a fire hydrant, and police had the lead they needed. >> when we get him and i interrogate him, my attitude at this time, i want to take him and throw him out the window. this guy was so pathetic. it was like talking to a zucchini. never blinked. constant smile on his face. so after a while i start to feel sorry for the guy. you know, he's -- gone. right? >> i feel great. i think the people of our city will feel great relief. >> praise the lord. it's over. we're very, very happy. >> that was the first thing we heard this morning. it was fantastic. it was great. >> serial killers tend to be cunning. that allows them to stay at large. when they get caught it's usually because of luck. good luck for us. bad luck for them. >> when we caught him we searched his car. the bag on the seat had the .44 caliber gun that did all the shootings. what more do you need? then we find a machine gun fully loaded in the back seat. and the night of the interrogation i directed i said, well, what were you going to do with the machine gun? and he says, i was on my way to the hamptons. and i was going to spray the place and kill as many people as i could. we can help active ly rer enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my go to toothpaste is going to be pronamel repair. hitting the road, not all 5g networks are created equal. t-mobile covers more highway miles with 5g than verizon. t-mobile has more 5g bars in more places than anyone. another reason t-mobile is the leader in 5g. your shipping manager left to “find themself.” leaving you lost. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire ♪ three times the electorlytes and half the sugar. ♪ pedialyte powder packs. feel better fast. there's a monster problem and our hero needs solutions. so she starts a miro to brainstorm. “shoot it?” suggests the scientists. so they shoot it. hmm... back to the miro board. dave says “feed it?” and dave feeds it. just then our hero has a breakthrough. 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we must never allow that. because this is the kind of thing that ushers in the terror of a hitler's germany. we must not allow these kind of things to enter our consciousness. >> i wanted to write a story very much about this guy and his power and the reach he had. so i began to contact ex-members. and they said that all is not so good inside, that there were beatings if you got out of line. there was a lot of sex abuse. and the story took on a new life at that point. very soon afterwards, the church members began leaving san francisco for guyana. >> you see in the distance the housing complex that is being built. >> he figures if i'm in guyana, it really doesn't matter what's said or written, nobody's going to get me here. ♪ we are a happy family ♪ ♪ we're a happy family ♪ ♪ yes we are ♪ >> it was an escapade that's almost unparalleled in the history of religious movements. they had very little communication with loved ones at home. and naturally there was concern about where they had gone and what was happening out there in the jungle. >> i think that jim jones took his group down there because he was afraid to face the publicity and answer the questions here in this country. >> he was talking integration, he was talking helping people, he was talking better this and better that. >> what about now? what's your impression now? >> my impression now, those are fronts for him. i think he's gone crazy. >> congressman leo ryan started hearing the name jim jones more regularly. and he wanted to expose what he believed was going on down there that was wrong. he thought it was certainly worth inviting members of the press to join him. >> very glad to be here. this is a congressional inquiry. i can tell you right now that whatever the comments are, there are some people here who believe this is the best thing that ever happened to them in their whole life. >> so it's towards the end of the evening. don harris, who was the nbc reporter, had been walking around the pavilion. and two people slipped him notes. and he hands the notes over to congressman ryan who opens them and says, oh my god, it's true. everything we've been told is true. >> just know that there's a place for you. always a place. >> and then word spread. and more and more people wanted to leave. >> now do i both understand you to say that you both want to leave jones' camp on this date, november 18th? 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(soft music) there are a lot of strange people who committed a lot of strange crimes in the 1970s. but none of them was as mediagenic as ted bundy. >> you said you were surprised when you went to jail. >> a prolific serial killer. he was handsome, very involved with politics, was in law school, and didn't seem like the glassy eyed lunatic that many americans believed serial killers would be. >> we still don't believe it. it just can't be. i keep shaking my head day after day saying how can this be? because our son is the best son in the world. >> what the press wrote about bundy and his crimes wasn't the full details. the fact that he would have sex with their corpses. mutilate the victims. that didn't fit with this image of the boy next door. >> you issued a statement saying you feel everything will turn out all right. that you are innocent. do you still feel that? >> yeah. more than ever. >> do you think about getting out of here? >> well, legally, sure. >> bundy was to stand trial on the charge of murdering a young woman in aspen. that trial never completed. during a court hearing break he was left alone in a law library. he bailed out of the second floor window and escaped. he high tailed it in the woods. he got lost up there. he probably would have died of exposure if they didn't arrest him. they caught him. he was put back in jail. in christmas time 1977 he escaped again. bundy starved down to less than 140-pounds slipped through a hole in his cell and was free again. >> the fbi put bundy on its ten most wanted list. posters were circulated throughout the nation. >> ted did not have a plan when he escaped. he just wanted to get as far away from where he might be identified as he could. so he stole a car and went to florida. >> his new quart ers are cramped. >> bundy was living in tallahassee when five florida state university coeds were attacked on or near the cap pus. two of the young womb young women died as a result of the attack. >> step out mr. bundy. >> what do we have here, ken, let's see, oh it's an indictment. why don't you read it to me. mr. bundy. >> you told me you were going to get me. you got the indictment. it's all you're going to get. >> bundy having had some law training and a great deal of arrogance decided to represent himself. >> don't shake your finger at me young man. >> inside the courtroom the trial will be covered by a still photographer and one television camera, upstairs there are 250 reporters. >> bundy's personality is fascinating to a lot of people. he doesn't fit the usual profile of a criminal. when he defends himself in court it's fascinating for people to watch. >> each day the courtroom is filled with spectators. what is unusual to see is many of the onlookers are women. young women. >> you're fascinated by him. >> very. >> i'm not afraid of him. he doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. >> you try to imagine yourself in his place and see how he's feeling. >> the bizarre spectacle of ted bundy a sex symbol really bummed out feminists. he was handsome. but on the other hand, his violence was so incredibly woman hating and his insouciance about that, we wound up being pretty depressed. >> i had a broken arm and a crushed finger. >> i had five skull fractures and multiple contusions in my head. >> is that man in the courtroom today? >> yes, he is. >> would you point him out for us, please. >> are you prepared for a guilty verdict? >> i think so. but you never know. i've never had to go through this before. >> after 6.5 hours of deliberation the jury had a verdict, 32-year-old theodore bundy remained composed. guilty of first-degree murder in the death of two florida state sorority sisters 19 months ago. >> it's therefore the sentence of this court that you be sentenced to death by a current of electricity. and such current of electricity shall continue to pass through your body until you are dead. >> in some ways ted bundy is an icon of the 70s. he mixed kind of show biz and violence in a way that had never been done before. at the end of the 70s, we had a destruction of our innocence that we had at the beginning of the 70s. >> it became an era when americans began to expect the worst. america certainly had lost its way. criminals were lotted and killers were romanticized. >> it was the news media that helped carry this message that america is a dangerous place. that americans had a love affair with violence. actually it was much more like a marriage. and that marriage for some people was till death do them part. >> they identified some of the causes. poverty. broken homes, for some, violence has become a permanent part of the fabric of life. sociologists call it a subculture of violence. the current wave of violent crime is well into its second decade. while we have de explorerred violence, we've not done much about it. perhaps this is because confronting the problem of violence forces us to confront the most serious defects in our society. hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. you are watching cnn news room. and i'm rosemary church. just ahead police look for a motive in a deadly shooting at a copenhagen mall. we'll bring you the latest on the investigation there. an ohio community demands justice after the release of police body cam video showing the shooting of a black man. ukraine lose ascii city as it

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