and many relying more and more on friends and family. hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning. lots to talk to us about today, including if you are a family caring for a disabled child, tell us about your experiences, do you get the help and support you need? do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning, at the standard network rate. our top story today — britain's surveillance agency, gchq, to spy on donald trump as "utterly ridiculous". it's unusual for the agency to issue public statements, but it says that claims first made on fox news and repeated by the white house our news correspondent richard lister is with me. richard, tell us first of all how it came about that gchq was in the frame. i suppose we should go back to the original allegation which came from president trump, who said on the 4th of march, terrible, just found out obama had my wires tapped in trump tower just found out obama had my wires tapped in trump towerjust before the victory, nothing found,, so immediately, of course, the white house press corps were trying to get to the bottom of this, what evidence was there of any tapping also bailing of the campaign? this was never really and said by the white house, who pointed to various media sources but gave no specifics. —— answered. the senate intelligence committee said there was no evidence of surveillance, and that was put back to sean spicer, and he said the president stood by those claims gresident stood.b¥,,those,.claim§= he said, it was reported on because, he said, it was reported on fox news by a commentator, and the report says, sources have told fox news that president obama probably used a foreign intelligence service called gchq, so that is where gchq called gchq, so that'is where gchq into called gchq, so that'ie where gchq into the frame. they have said comes into the frame. they have said this is categorically untrue. they almost never comment about things, they tend to neither confirm nor they tend ta neither canf’rrrrrnrr they tend ta neither ccnfirrrrnrr really they tend ta neither ccnfirrrrnrr really they do not issue deny, and really they do not issue state m e nts deny, and really they do not issue statements as a matter of policy, but in this case it is quite categorical, saying, recent allegations made by andrew napolitano by gchq being asked to conduct wiretapping against the then president—elect nonsense, and it goes on to say they are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored. thank you, richard. annita mcveigh is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the day's news. the snp will today accuse the government of being too scared to allow a second independence referendum. deputy leader angus robertson will open his party's spring conference by saying the conservatives have a "desperate desire" to prevent anyone rejecting brexit. but theresa may will tell her own party conference in cardiff that she'll fight to keep what she calls the "precious union". our scotland correspondent lorna gordon reports. two leaders, both talking tough in the battle over scotland's future — theresa may rejecting a referendum on independence before the uk leaves the eu, saying now is not the time. nicola sturgeon determined it should go ahead, and at a time of her choosing. and almost anti—democratic, for a conservative government will of the scottish parliament, and stand in the way of the scottish people having the right to choose our own future. ms sturgeon will use her party conference in aberdeen to keep the spotlight on her argument that downing street's position is unsustainable. 2,000 party members who will pack this hall later will likely agree. elsewhere in the granite city, the views were mixed. maybe sometime in the future, we can vote on it. is it next year they're proposing, i don't think... for me, that's not something i'd like to vote on. although theresa may says wait until after a deal, the deal is about being taken out of europe. so i think nicola sturgeon has a right to hold that, and i don't think theresa may has any right to stop her. it has been two years since the people of scotland first voted on whether to leave the united kingdom. for now, there will be none of this. both sides are instead focused on trying to persuade people in scotland that they are right about the timing of any possible second independence referendum. hang-erg is caressing ahead , , container camps for asylum—seekers on its border with serbia, by the end of march, the government plans to keep all asylum seekers in detention, including families and unaccompanied teenagers. james reynolds reports from hungary. when hungary says it's taking tough action to stop migration, this is what it means. it is holding these migrants at a detention centre in the south of the country. we are allowed to speak to them from the street. we are not terrorists, we are not criminals. we are refugees! there are no human rights here. this is not a camp, it is a prison. they are treating us like animals. but hungary sees no reason to back down. far from it. this month, the prime minister took charge of a new group of so—called border hunters. a new law now gives the government even more power to round up migrants. hungary plans to hold them all in these containers it is setting up next to the border with serbia. "these are civilised places to live in," the contractor says. "european workers certainly find them acceptable. " hungary says that the migrants to be held in these containers would be free to leave at any time, so long as they head in just a single direction — south. they will be free to walk, just a few metres down here and they would cross back into serbia, away from the eu, making them someone else's problem. these young migrants are stuck on the serbian side. the rest of the european union may publicly criticise the actions of hungary, but quietly europe may put up with anything that keeps migrants back. the us secretary of state has said military action against nuclear armed north korea was an "option on the table". rex tillerson made the remarks during a visit to the demilitarised zone that divides the two koreas. is said american policy of strategic patience had ended. the uk's biggest everfine for river pollution is expected to be imposed on thames water today. the compa ny‘s admitted to breaching more than a dozen environmental laws. stretches of water in 0xfordshire and buckinghamshire were heavily polluted, killing many fish. every secondary school in england could lose the equivalent of six teachers by 2020, according to an education think—tank. the education policy institute says schools will see cuts averaging nearly £300,000 over the next three years. but the government says funding is at an all—time high and will continue to rise. sarah campbell has more. save our schools! parents and pupils in nantwich, cheshire, protesting last month about a lack of funding for their schools compared to other areas. the government has plans to redistribute funds — it says more fairly — and it says at £40 billion this year, school funding in england is the highest it has ever been. despite this, today's report confirms no school will avoid a real—terms cut in budget over the next few years. schools are facing significant cost pressures. the cost of running the school increases, rising number of students and from local authorities having less money to spend. so whilst the distribution of money might be fairer, there is simply not enough money in the system the education policy institute estimates that by 2020 the average real—terms loss of funding per primary school will be £74,000, and per secondary school the average cut will be £291,000. that equates to every primary school losing two teachers, and every secondary school losing six. the government says it does recognise the pressures schools in england are facing and is helping them to make savings. sarah campbell, bbc news. the government has placed a temporary restriction to explain why adverts are appearing alongside extremist material. the move follows an investigation by the times which said that rape apologists, anti—semites and banned hate preachers were receiving payouts from autoplaying government adverts ahead oflhetrfadeafi the paper says a number of global brands have also pulled their advertising from the internet giant for the same reason. indonesia has summoned the british ambassador after a ship operated by a british company ran aground on a coral reef, causing it extensive damage. on 4th march, the ii,290—ton caledonian sky hit reefs off an island in raja ampat, papua province, at low tide. the region is famous for its biodiversity and the boat was taking tourists on a bird—watching expedition. the incident has caused outrage in indonesia and local officials have suggested the captain could face criminal charges. haddock caught in the west of scotland and in the north sea has been taken off a list of sustainable fish to eat. the marine conservation society says stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost the number of breeding—age fish. but the decision‘s been criticised by scottish fishermen. passengers at a new york station got a nasty surprise when their train pulled in. those waiting at rhinecliff station were caught in a wave of snow as their train arrived at the station, engulfing those closest to the tracks. the national rail operator amtrak says no—one was hurt. a video of the episode has been viewed more than a million times online. what a to what a - to the morning commute! but is it from me for the moment, aaa.c... . and 9:30. more and 9:30. i don't know who i feel more sorry for, the people who were hit by the snow or the who for, the people who were hit by the snow or the - who must have snow or the driver, who must have got the fright of their life! some comments from you on help for disabled families caring for disabled families caring for disabled people, anthony on facebook, once again, the disabled are an easy target for cuts because we are the minority, the government does not think we have a - cloud does not think we have a voice cloud enough to complain compare to other groups. elisabeth on facebook, it is 7; that we get little or no true that we get little or no support, local authorities will never say yes to support if they can find a never say yes to support if they can find 31? . never say yes to support if they can find a pathetic reason find a small, pathetic reason not to. families‘ views are supposed to be represented but setting up forums has been dumped on families with special needs, and we are expected to do this full—time job for free on top of looking after our children and beating their many needs, frankly a joke. we are going to be talking to two mothers of disabled children injust a talking to two mothers of disabled children in just a few moments, talking to two mothers of disabled children injust a few moments, and also a coalition of charities getting together to highlight this particular issue of a lack of care, so particular issue of a lack of care, so do keep on getting in touch with your thoughts on that if you are affected. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. we can catch up with the sport with 0lly, and manchester united through to the quarterfinals of the europa league, butjose mourinho is still not happy. no, the portuguese has beenin not happy. no, the portuguese has been ina not happy. no, the portuguese has been in a bit. a funk all not happy. no, the portuguese has been in a bit . a funk all week, been in a bit of a funk all week, remember they lost against chelsea on monday night in the fa cup, had that gruelling overnight bus journey back to manchester. they won last night at manchester united, —— at 0ld night at manchester united, —— at old trafford, against rostov, but paul pogba pulled up with a hamstring problem, the most expensive player in the world, not sure how long he will be out for, a couple of weeks at least. juan mata score the winner on the night, they go through 2—i score the winner on the night, they go through 2—1 on aggregate. sergio romero had to pull off a couple of great saves late on, or they would have gone into extra time. united into the quarterfinal draw, butjose mourinho was talking about having we think he is enemies, we think he is talking about those who put the fixture lists together, not having done my cabbie about playing monday, thursday and sunday. roy keane said he was talking rubbish, perhaps the club ,, ,. he was talking rubbish, perhaps the gs! he was talking rubbish, perhaps the m is too big for him, but they club is too big for him, but they are into the draw, which is later. they won, but he is not happy, the quarterfinal draw being held in lyon. the clubs to avoid include ajax and schalke. in the next leon, ajax and schalke. in the next hour, the champions league - is hour, the champions league draw is there as well, leicester are the only british club in that, who will they want to avoid? all of them probably! barcelona, real madrid, bayern munich in there as well, no dodging a really tricky tie for leicester, they are 20—i outsiders if you fancy a flutter, joanna, not 5000-1, but if you fancy a flutter, joanna, not 5000—1, but outsiders nonetheless. it is the final day of cheltenham. st patrick steve spirit. nowhere else today but cheltenham. beautiful weather. brilliant week for the irish so far, hoovered up in six of yesterday‘s seven races. the great trainerjockey combo of willie mullins and ruby walsh. hadn‘t won any races on the first two days. they had four yesterday including the main race the stayers hurdle. nichols canyon coming home. mullins and walsh have the favourite djakadam in the gold cup today but it‘s a wide open field with colin tizzard having the highly fancied cue card. he works with his head on his chest and he rips up over and he gets to the top, here‘s a happy horse. he is not ready for anything else yet, here‘s a racehorse and he loves that. he - as good a chance as he that. he has as good a chance as he ever have. how do 5: tell a will ever have. how do you tell a horse is happy? it probably does not have a long face! you have interesting pictures of a golf “was the arnold palmer invitaional in orlando. first round, all the top golfers are there, and cody gribble. he was the talk of the clubhouse. here he was wandering down the 6th fairway. bringing up a disabled child is hard enough for any family, but almost seven out of ten families never get support caring for their disabled children, new research suggests. in a survey of more than 2,000 families carried out by the disabled children‘s partnershig. and disability charities, many parents said the only support they had was from friends and family. the department for education said it wanted to make sure families with disabled children felt here this morning are: amanda batten, who is the chair of the disabled children‘s partnership, tahira crow, the mum of 15—year—old george who has a rare genetic syndrome and is autistic. she is receiving some social care but says it‘s not enough. for her disabled daughter. she didn‘t have any.supp9;t........... .. . for about eight years, has some now, but says it‘s not enough. tell us about your daughter‘s care needs and the pressure it puts on you. holly has multiple illnesses, cerebral- epilepsy, chronic cerebral palsy, epilepsy, chronic lung disease, jackie austin the gastronomy dependent, she highly skilled medically requires highly skilled medically people to care for her. 2a trained people to care for her. 2a hours a day seven days a week, which myself and my husband do, to keep her alive. holly‘s prognosis is she is life limited. each day brings a different challenge for us. you and your husband are full—time carers and you do a very highly skilled job in caring for holly. tells what to do. yes. we have to be specially trained to react to everything that holly does. we do the job of an intensive care team at home. holly... i house is set up around holly... i house is set up around holly. we have machines to monitor oui’ oxygen, holly. we have machines to monitor our oxygen, heart rate, blood fill? fig’ffififi fiat? féffi 553? §ef fig’ffififi his“ féffi 553? temperature, we are pressure, temperature, we are co nsta ntly pressure, temperature, we are constantly monitoring her to keep her well. . years you had no help. her well. for years you had no help. you get some. what difference does it make? what amount of help you getting? for - years we had no getting? for many years we had no help at all and we relied on my sister, otherwise i do not know what would‘ve happened to us, - we would‘ve happened to us, but we reach the point where might we felt we reached crisis point ourselves when my husband and myself were physically and mentally exhausted through caring. we got something called direct payments which is some hours a week which enable us to employ somebody to assist us together holly a better quality of life, which is all really wanted. we found that all the care we were doing at home was very intense and | . .,| - a |_ we needed to do this but we were missing out on loving life as well afamily and a family and it had an impact on other children as well. the are my other children as well. they are just as as holly and our just as important as holly and our family life was seriously compromised. we were not having any family time together. you have to match other children. yes. it took a long time to get help. did you not know you were entitled? it was not offered. when you have a freely offered. when you have a child with very complex health needs it isa child with very complex health needs it is a very fragmented system. there is not a very good signposting. people do not really give you the option of care. they expect i think a lot of parents to know what is out there. we felt, i felt i wasjuggling know what is out there. we felt, i felt i was juggling holly‘s care, but as having to fight to justify why i needed the help i needed. for ...u... ! 555.452. see. leela. ! eerie—gag” gas-mm... pa rent ...u... ! 555.452. see. leela. ! eerie—gag” 51am..-” pa rent to ...u... ! 555.452. see. leela. ! eerie—gag” 51am..-” parent to have to do that, to put a parent to have to do that, to put their hands up and say i am struggling to look after my daughter, it is a very hard thing to have to admit for a mother to say that, and i do not think any family should have to be forced to say that. initially what would have worked better as it services around us worked better as it services around us could recognise the need and early intervention would stop anything like that happening to otherfamilies. anything like that happening to other families. you have a 15—year—old child with special needs as well. your son george. tell us as well. your son georgectell us ' ' " him. as well. your son georgectell us ' ' " 1 him. george has a rare genetic about him. george has a rare genetic syndrome that affects his pancreas and bone marrow. and skeletal. those are the main characteristics of the syndrome. he also has autism of the severe end. he needs 24—hour care. 0bviously meant my husband deliver that. with family support. and good friends network. tell us about the pressures , we friends network. tell us about the pressures, we heard about healy. you sort of just pressures, we heard about healy. you sort ofjust manage with the daily challenges that you face. because george has quite a lot of health needs as well as the autism, it is trying to balance, because he has a lot of regular checkups for his health, and also helping him cope with daily life. he has so have medication, he needs constant supervision. you do get some help. it was a long time coming. yes. we receive direct payments which we have done for about the night years so we have done for about the night years so we employ somebody to take george out. unfortunately he is at universities so he can only offer help during the summer and it has been really difficult to recruit somebody else because this is our son and we do not wantjust anybody, we wa nt son and we do not wantjust anybody, we want somebody who understands george‘s needs. we also fairly recently have received a short break facility through action for children. unfortunately we only get one night a month which is not a lot. however george has coped extremely well with it. it has brought him on. his independence, he loves going. he is there with other peers. it broadens his spectrum of meeting new people. our next battle meeting new geogle. our nextbattle to ask for extra nights so george is to ask for extra nights so george could perhaps be for a weekend and give gary and i, my husband and i, a breakfrom give gary and i, my husband and i, a break from the caring. you work as well. i do. it break from the caring. you work as well. ido. it must break from the caring. you work as well. i do. it must be relentless. it did, after having george, when he had his diagnosis, i went back to work, part—time, an opportunity for some career progression came up so i went but unfortunately i went full—time but unfortunately i could only sustain that for four months and realised with the l’. of all months and realised with the 5:57. of all the months and realised with the 17; of all the different% pressures of all the different things george needed that i would have to retreat back to part—time so my husband works full—time. that impacted on our lives. lots of people getting in touch. lorraine says i have to match boys with autism and at the moment i have had autism and at the moment i have had a lot of support and the cuts are scary, life is hard enough without having to worry about being able to afford everyday needs especially if they get more the they get more complex. the passes physical disabilities and mental health issues often go hand in hand and sometimes you get help and one are not the other. jane says most families with disabled children feel ground down by the system. and it says no disabled person gets the support they need, i is a postcode support they need, it is a postcode lottery, unless you‘re classed as they deemed nursing care your left to. hardly they deemed nursing care your left to i hardly any help to access to it. hardly any help to access community or have supported remain independent in the hall and almost impossible to get disabled facilities, grants for working families and the crisis was wheelchair services is miserable. amanda, you‘re with the coalition representing the various disabled charities, this has hit a nerve, your found a lot of your researchers found a lot of people in the same bolt. yes. we pulled over 6000 families and 69% older they had ever received any support in caring for their disabled child other than through family and friends. about a quarter said they did not receive support from their family either. those families end up feeling very isolated. they have talked with a fantasticjob they do and the pressures they face. and the difference some sort of fairly low—level even family support services can be transformational for the families. you are talking about cuts in budget between 2010 and 2015 but hearing from our panel these issues have - going but hearing from our panel these issues have- going on but hearing from our panel these issues have - going on for years. sttttet t. t $ why we have come absolutely. why we have come together now as the partnership is togetherfnow' as the partnershiais as 28 different charities we because as 28 different charities we are troubled with the ongoing lack of support for families but also we just had a budget where have just had a budget where disabled children were not mentioned at all and more widely in the social reform agenda there is never any mention of disabled children and reform agenda there is never any men' families ;abled children and reform agenda there is never any men' families and 5d children and reform agenda there is never any men' families and we hildren and reform agenda there is never any men' families and we think n and reform agenda there is never any men' families and we think thatd their families and we think that needs to change. the government says it is spending £50 billion a year supporting disabled people and councils are getting 200 billion by 2020 to spend on local services. how does that time? you have heard from those experiences that. does not those experiences that that does not correspond with families‘ experiences. we know that social cabbages are being increasingly squeezed. —— social care budgets. most services are experiencing cuts. that support for services which that’s’u’ppieft’t‘o’r's’efir’sisss’fifilc . the family- care, to support the family took care, to stay together, to be able to work, stay togetherf. to beabletn work ! are the stay togetherf. to beabletn work e are the kinds of services that are being chipped away at across the country. do you feel it is an easy country. doyoufeelilisaneasy for local authorities? totally. 552 if; ‘ii‘ £§§eeeeeee§ also think it is really... they i also think it is really... they are not doing enough scoping of the children in their local areas. they are not meeting'iee-e needs. it is a are not meeting their needs. it is a very ticked box exercise when they are seeing we are providing short breaks. myself and my daughter received 21 days a year respite but thatis received 21 days a year respite but that is from a children‘s hospice which is a to and the demand on the charity because of the lack of government funding coming down to us government fur—sdingcoming—dowa rteus= frightening because what will is frightening because what will happen when the charity are com pletely happen when the charity are completely exhausted of all their resources ? completely exhausted of all their resources? talking about charities being exhausted of these being exhausted of resources, these are humans, people like you, at the heart of this, keeping things going, it cannot be easy. no. it and it cannot be easy. no. it certainly is not. getting by with the daily day—to—day survival kind of thing, and supporting george with his immediate needs, then to have to... it does not come to you, you have to seek these services out and it is through other families in the same situation talking to other pa rents same situation talking to other parents that you find out what the are about and then you have services are about and then you have to go and seek it out for yourselves. when you are feeling a nyway anyway i‘m tired that is exhausted anyway i‘m tired that is not easy. thank you all very much for coming m, thank you all very much for coming in, and thank you for your comments, do keep them coming. still to come: "a flagrant violation of international law". that‘s how human rights groups and refugee organisations are describing hungary‘s new policy of detaining migrants in containers. we‘ll get more from refugee groups and the hungarian government shortly. £12 million has been raised for the crisis in east africa as drought and conflict racks the region, we will hear you conflict racks the region, we will hearyou dumbi conflict racks the region, we will hear you dumb i carry you 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' mcveigh or is in the annita mcveigh or is in the newsroom. britain‘s surveillance agency, gchq, has described claims that it was asked by president obama to spy on donald trump as "utterly ridiculous". the unusual move to issue a statement came after white house press secretary sean spicer quoted claims first made on us tv channel fox news earlier this week. the snp will today accuse the government of being too scared to allow a second independence referendum. deputy leader angus robertson will open his party‘s spring conference by saying the conservatives have a "desperate desire" to prevent anyone rejecting brexit. but theresa may will tell her own party conference in cardiff that she‘ll fight to keep what she calls the "precious union". southern railway guards in the rmt union are to stage a fresh in the continuing row over staffing and the role of conductors. the news comes after the drivers‘ union, aslef, reached a revised deal with the train firm‘s parent company, govia thameslink. aslef members, who rejected a previous deal struck with the company, are set to vote on the new agreement on 3rd april. the uk‘s biggest everfine for river pollution the company‘s admitted to breaching more than a dozen environmental laws. stretches of water in 0xfordshire and buckinghamshire were heavily polluted, killing many fish. haddock caught west of scotland and in the north sea, has been taken off a list of sustainable fish to eat. the marine conservation society says stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost the number of breeding—age fish. but the decision‘s been criticised by scottish fishermen. a security sniffer dog has been shot dead at new zealand‘s biggest airport after it grounded flights after escaping its leash. say the ten—month—old authorities say the ten—month—old could not be captured after it ran away from its handler. animal rights groups have asked why the dog could not have been tranquillised instead. that is a summary of the latest bbc more at ten o‘clock, back to news, more at ten o‘clock, back to you, joanna. let‘s catch up with the sport with 0lly foster. man united through to the roper league quarterfinals, they beat rostov 1—0 league quarterfinals, they beat rostov1—0 with a juan mata goal. —— the europa league. winning a trophy carries champions league qualifications. the draw takes place later this morning, and leicester are the only british club left in that competition. they could face barcelona, real madrid or bayern §5-_._|--5 aal madraf sane; 5... .5 55. ...-. munich, or a few other european superpowers. nichols canyon, written by ruby walsh, won the big race yesterday, one of six irish winners at the cheltenham festival. he writes the favourite, djakadam, in the gold cup this afternoon. and warrington‘s wall. to the super league season continues, they lost 22-8 at league season continues, they lost 22—8 at newly leigh 22—8 at newly promoted leigh centurions last night. —— woeful start. hungary is to detain mutant; along its southern border, where they will be kept while they wait for their asylum cases to be heard. the measure applies to men, women and children over 1a. the country‘s prime minister viktor 0rban is known for his hardline attitude towards migration. he‘s described it as a "trojan horse for terrorism" and says the measures are intended to "save europe". human rights group amnesty international has condemned the move as a "flagrant violation of international law". the hungarian parliament approved the law to detain migrants as part of measures to tighten controls on the serbian border which has been a focus of the european migration crisis since 2015. shouting. we are not criminals, we are not terrorists, we are refugees. a little over a month ago, this programme reported from asotthalom, a village on the hungarian—serbian border where the mayor has similar views. asotthalom, a village on the southern hungarian plains, just minutes from the serbian border were in 2015, 10,000 migrants a day crossed into hungary. the village population is declining and homesteads stand vacant. the mayor here wants to attract foreign investors, but not just any foreigner. translation: we primarily welcome people from western europe, people who would not like to live in a multicultural society. we wouldn‘t like to attract muslim people in the village. what if i was black, or what if i was gay? how would you feel about that? asotthalom has a bye—law that bans homosexual propaganda. we adopted it a few weeks ago. as for your other question, think about this. europe is small, it can‘t take in billions of people from africa and south asia, but there is a population boom. this would soon lead to the disappearance of europe. i would like europe to belong to europeans, asia to belong to asians and africa to africans, simple as that. he is so serious he has introduced local legislation banning public displays of affection by gay people, the wearing of islamic dress, and he wants to ban the building of mosques. there are two muslims in asotthalom, and one of them agreed to speak to us, but at the last minute pulled out. they didn‘t want to attract attention to themselves. they have spoken of their fears to hungarian media in the past but other villagers reject the laws are a huge concern. translation: important issues like this should be legislated by the national government, not local legislation. if they take off their veil, i'll accept them. it doesn't even matter if they are black, they should become hungarian citizens even if they are muslims or whatever. are you trying to create a white kind of supremacist village? i didn‘t use this word "white", but because we are white, european, christian population we want to stay this. like this. 0ur correspondent nick thorpe is on the hungary border. nick, tell us what is happening there right now. well, yes, joanna, here i am right next to the container camp, you might be able to hearin container camp, you might be able to hear in the background earth moving digging machines that have machines, digging machines that have already flattened the area here. basically, they are putting into place shipping containers which will house up to, at displays, up to 250 asylu m house up to, at displays, up to 250 asylum seekers from the beginning of there is one of the camp like april. there is one of the camp like this, but they are preparing it down. each individual carbon is like a shipping container, and this is where all asylum seekers in future will be detained. i cabin. tell us will be detained. -- cabin. tell us more about the controversy around these policies, there has been a ruling from the european court of human rights. that is right, the hungarian government‘s position is rather hard line, it sees pretty much all the migrants crossing the border, legally or illegally, as economic migrants. it doesn‘t see this as a humanitarian issue, it seesit this as a humanitarian issue, it sees it as a securities you, and it sees it as a securities you, and it sees hungary on the front line, and it says it is defending hungary and the european union, as a schengen member country. the european court of human rights, this is an interesting precedent setting case, just a couple of days ago ruled against hungary over the detention in exactly this place where i am standing now of two pakistani in september 2000 and 15. citizens in september 2000 and 15. hungary had argued that serbia, just the other side of the border, is a safe country and it was allowed to send them back. hungary argued that it could detain them for 23 days and similar containers to the ones being arranged here now. but the un court of human rights ruled that hungary had violated international rules, asylu m had violated international rules, asylum procedures and so one, by doing that, so it was found in breach of international and eu rules. so is there any sanction against hungary, or can it continue to ignore that and potentially any other rulings? there have been a chorus of international criticism from the united nations refugee agency, also from human rights organisations. the unhcr cannot sanction hungary, the european .t5t '" . . .., $ could, and there were commission could, and there were hearings in the european parliament recently, and people are waiting to see, the government is waiting to see, the government is waiting to see, because by tightening the rules and introducing this effectively automatic detention, hungary is going head to head with brussels, people wondering the people wondering whether the european commission will challenge this, or indeed - else will this, or indeed anyone else will challenge this - thank you, challenge this legally. thank you, nick. with us is erno simon, a spokesman for unhcr in hungary spokesman, stephane moissaing, head of medecins sans frontieres‘ mission in serbia, and the hungarian government spokesman zoltan kovacs. we‘ll hear from the hungarian government spokesman in a minute, but first tell us about the containers being built on the border. well, we think the detention of asylu m well, we think the detention of asylum seekers in these conditions absolutely against international is absolutely against international and eu law. the only criteria why these people would be detained is that they first seek asylum in hungary, and they have not committed any crime, and all of them will be detained behind four metre high razor wire fence, this is unacceptable. hungary i that! razor wire fence, this is unacceptable. hungary i that it unacceptable. hungary says that it is dealing with a situation where it is dealing with a situation where it is trying to manage large numbers of people who have been trying to get into the country — is this a proportionate response? well, as i have mentioned, under the international law, seeking asylum is absolutely a basic human rights, and no—one should be sanctioned for it, no—one should be sanctioned for it, no—one should be sanctioned for it, no—one should suffer any repercussions for it, any people can ask for asylum, and they have the right to enter the country and to have access to a fair legal asylum seeker. hungary now prepares to detain every single asylum seeker, including children, - come with including children, who come with families or who come alone to hungary. so i think this is absolutely not a proportionate response to this. stephan, medecins sans frontieres say they have been treating migrants who have been treated brutally by the hungarian authorities, i know msf has not directly witnessed any incidents, but tell us the allegations that you as. ...... a... . .... ........ .... .. .... . ..... .....,. heard. yes, we have some case have heard. yes, we have some case of violence which which come to our clinic ill belgrade. weather conditions are now more suitable for migrants to travel. we have recorded some violence already, and actually in february we had 39 cases at our clinic, annie last two weeks of march, we had 37 cases. —— and the last. so yes, the trend of violence seems to be increasing. after the violence, the brutal act on migrants, what we hear in much more people give testimonies, much more people give their testimonies, so we see only their testimonies, so we see only the tip of the iceberg. the i%:i':ii'%: the tip of the iceberg. the fjztze. we receive are telling testimonies we receive are telling that a long session of humiliation are happening to migrants, so dog bites, hitting with rubber sticks, tear gas. and the migrants are kept between 30 minutes and four hours sometimes, and they are humiliated, so we sometimes, and they are humiliated, so we have seen sometimes, and they are humiliated, so we have seen some sometimes, and they are humiliated, so we have seen some other cases, even people as young as 13 years old being brutalised as well. it is inhumane treatment. allegations are not really investigated and we would like to have a body to investigate those allegations. you are joining us as the government spokesman. a lot of allegations being made against hungary, inhumane treatment it has been called. what is your response? they are allegations. we have not seen any evidence supporting these allegations. therefore we have to presume that most of them are lies. very well known at long stores migrants reaching the borders of europe. . the past two or three europe. for the past two or three yea rs we have europe. for the past two or three years we have seen many stories and interpretations so you have to be careful when you meet these allegations. we have a gross of international allegations. we have a gross ‘ and of international allegations. we have a gross ‘and asylum i of international allegations. we have a gross ‘and asylum seekers. national allegations. we have a gross ‘and asylum seekers. there al allegations. we have a gross ‘and asylum seekers. there is no law and asylum seekers. there is no such human rights that would allow anyone around the globe to freely choose his destination, cross countries illegally and eventually come to the borders of the european union and one of the european member states to apply for asylum. hungary has been ruled against by the european court of human rights on the issue. yes, but you have to be precise on the two cases. this is a ridiculous case because two pakistanis or bangladeshis to the rest of my knowledge were awarded some ramifications rest of my knowledge were awarded some - ramifications because some financial ramifications because we sent them back to serbia, through serbia, to greece. allegedly because they are going to be ill treated. keepin they are going to be ill treated. keep in mind that greece is a member of the european union. it is a ridiculous idea to presume that one european member state is not the ridiculous idea to presume that one europ country. iber state is not the ridiculous idea to presume that one europ country. keep :ate is not the ridiculous idea to presume that one europ country. keep in e is not the ridiculous idea to presume that one europ country. keep in mind ot the ridiculous idea to presume that one europ country. keep in mind these same country. keep in mind these migrants coming through a number of states including turkey, greece, macedonia, serbia, all of them are --- .u-... ;;.|.'; 5 safe countries, --- -u-u. 55..-5 5 safe countries, the european union regard the turkey as a safe country. large proportion of migrants the large proportion of migrants trying to come through to hungary are coming from iraq, afghanistan, syria.1§s you see them as part of syria. do you see them as part of the humanitarian crisis? it is becoming a humanitarian crisis because we do not deal with that according to what is happening. according to what is happeningm terms of their experience and where they have come from. indeed but this is not a refugee crisis, - is a is not a refugee crisis, this is a migration crisis. we have registered migrants coming from over 104 countries for the past couple of yea rs. last countries for the past couple of years. last year, 1.2 million people entered the european union and we see that the majority of them are not going to be entitled for any kind of legal status therefore they should be returned back to where they were coming from. that is increasingly! they were coming from. that is increasingly problematic to put into effect. look at germany and the scandinavian countries struggling with hundreds of thousands of people who should be sent back and it is impossible because they have failed to fulfil their obligations under the existing european framework to ensure that those who step on legal soil have area goal —— legal rights. —— who step on european soil have a legal right. .gett'aaese —— who step on european soil have a legal right. gettaaeoe scandinavian legal right. germany, scandinavian countries in the rest of europe, what you are trying to do is to restore law and order at the european borders. we have an obligation. hungary has an obligation. hungary has an obligation under the existing rules. what about the point that migrants once they get that point have passed through other safe— countties once they get that point have passed through other safe sountties as once they get that point have passed through other safe countfies as well through other safe countries as well where they could stay? serbia and macedonia might be safe countries for the civilians, safe countries of origin, but the asylum institutions, the asylum system does not function properly in those countries, so we do not recommend to countries to send asylum seekers backg serbia send asylum seekers back to serbia or macedonia. would you like to respond to that? - back to common respond to that? come back to common sense. that is ridiculous. there‘s the european union considers turkey a safe country a member state likely to be considered a safe country. macedonia and serbia are safe countries as well. we have to cut this vicious of countries as well. we have to cut this vicious - of illegal this vicious circle of illegal migrants using the services of human traffickers crossing a number of illegally just because countries illegally just because they believe, and does not really countries illegally just because they b( if eve, and does not really countries illegally just because they b( if they and does not really countries illegally just because they b( if they are does not really countries illegally just because they b( if they are proper)t really countries illegally just because they b( if they are proper refugees matter if they are proper refugees are economic migrants, that they have a right to come to european union without approval. we have to turn back to common sense and legality at the borders the european union. thank you. coming up: britain‘s top secret surveillance agency'gchgg ha.;= described as "ridiculous" claims it was asked by president obama to spy on donald trump during last year‘s us election campaign. we‘ll get reaction. £12 million has already been raised since the disasters emergency committee launched its urgent appeal for the crisis in east africa on wednesday. the dec is made up of 13 uk aid agencies who have joined forces for the appeal to help those facing famine in the region. the committee says at least 16 million people in somalia, kenya, ethiopia and south sudan are in desperate need of food, water and medical treatment. the disasters emergency committee, tea rfund‘s country director for south sudan is injuba, where they have feeding centres for internally displaced people who‘ve been flocking to the capital to try to find food. and simon nyabwengi, who is the world vision‘s national director for somalia, where the country is at risk of sliding into famine. you have had a good response to the campaign already. what will the money be used for? the money raised so far will go to supply very desperate people in east africa with food, water and medical supplies, for example starving children on the brink of death will be supplied with a miracle cure that gives them the nutrients they are desperately needing to survive. the funding is coming through at a very desperate time. why does it have to get to this point for minds to be focused? yes. we have been alerting the world and the uk public about the devastating in devastating situation going on in east africa for a while but we are delighted that the world has woken up delighted that the world has woken up and taken stock of what is going on. we still have time to avert catastrophe, 16 million people who are literally needing humanitarian; assistance who could face starvation of we do not respond. we are very proud of the uk government and the uk public for responding urgently to this crisis and the global community we are calling on to respond. you are in south sudan. tell us about the picture for you and the needs you‘re seeing. the picture for you and the needs you're seeing. thank you. the picture here and the future here at the of the country is picture here and the future here at the - of the country is dire. the moment of the country is dire. we have a country with half a million people and about 7.5 million people need humanitarian assistance. 4.9 million people have not enough food and that is notjust having a diverse end, it is having 30, 40, 50% of the daily diet. because these are the drought in the eastern parts of the country and the conflict in different places, famine was declared in the north of the country in some counties and some counties in other parts of the country are in danger of falling to famine. we also have extreme hunger radford problem in some areas where we have not had this in the past like in the south of the country. there are lots of different issues that country, the conflicts you mentioned, the food, shortages devastation, conflicts you mentioned, the food, shortages = devastation, in shortages causing devastation, in terms of the conflict what impact is that having? it has the impact that people cannot access food distribution, medical services, borders. this is very common, or they have to flee to other places where normally you - perhaps where normally you would perhaps have more food available normally and put more pressure on these markets. it is like a 5:77; which markets. it is like a spiral which is not reading to anything good. the problem is very serious. you are in somalia. what is the situation? the flea-c efl/2s 11:3 sis; :‘s—ss'ssc is rise/2d; {fisss !1:3 sle2 :'s—;s's5* is quite rise/2d; efl/2s !1:3 sle2 :'s—;s's5* is quite desperate. i rise/2d; efl/2s !1:3 sle2 :'s—2s's5* is quite desperate. i have situation. is ouite’desperate.’thaee= situation. is suits’dsspsrsts.’thass= situation. is ouito’oosoor’ato.’thaoo= in the situation is ouito’oosoor’ato.’thaoo= in the field for the last five 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the issues in somalia are not .— it is not issues in somalia are not .— it is noiiusi straightforward. it is notjust environmental issues, there is the conflict as well. how complicated as the picture? it becomes a lot more complicated especially in the south. what has happened over time is that forces have managed to liberate some towns but rural areas are still controlled by al—sha bab towns but rural areas are still controlled by al—shabab and you are having people starving affected by drought who are having to make their way into safer areas, in order to be 5 =—.s.-. sesss 55-55..- =.—. 5.5.45.- s.-. 5.5 555 5 =5.s5. 55555 55555 i5. 55.455 s.-. 15.5 555 to 5 =5.s5. 55555 55555 i5. 5.55.55 +5. 5.5 5555 to get 5 =5..s5. 55555 5555 i5. 5.5.455155. 15.5 5555 to get assistance. 0ur 5 =5..s5. 55555 5555 i5. 5.5.455155. 15.5 5555 to get assistance. our biggest able to get assistance. our biggest fear is that while we might be able to save those who find their way into these areas, two days ago the world 13,000 people who made the trek in order to get help, our biggest fear is that in those areas that we do not have access to that there might be a lot more dead and in more desperate need and we are not able to reach them. thank you. it is the echo docks in the uk which is the day when - and nights are is the day when days and nights are equal in length. not to be confused with the equinox which is on monday when the sun passes across the equator. today has started bright for many of you, lovely southern parts of the - it across southern parts of the uk. it will be a fine day in cornwall. further north the sky is a different cooler and it is probably a day to stay this side of the window. 0utbreaks stay this side of the window. outbreaks of rain across scotland and parts of northern ireland and north—west england. snow on the hills in the highlands. very misty. biased throughout the south but the cloud will increase. —— driest. heading further south temperatures what 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air heading back. hello, it is friday, ten o'clock, i am joanna gosling. nonsense and utterly ridiculous — britain's intelligence agency gchq says allegations it spied on donald trump should be ignored. we'll examine the claims. not enough families with disabled children are getting the help they need to care for them. that is according toi group of charities. we have been hearing from a mum about the struggles she has faced. i was having to fight to justify why i needed the help that i needed, and for a parent to have to put their hands up and say, i'm really struggling to look after my daughter, it is a very hard thing to have to admit, for a mother to say that, and i don't think any family should be forced to have to say that. to just marry the boss and that. to just marrytherhossand off him, how is that for career live off him, how is that for career advice? we will reveal some of the shopping career advice university stu d e nts shopping career advice university students have been given. have you been given any particular the shopping career advice? do get in touch. let's catch up with the news with annita. thank you, good morning. britain's surveillance agency, gchq, has described claims that it was asked by president obama to spy on donald trump as "utterly ridiculous". the unusual move to issue a statement came after white house fox news earlier this week. he did not use the nsa, he did not use the cia, he did not use the fbi and he did not use the department ofjustice. he used gchq. what is that? it is the initials for the british intelligence spying agency. transcripts of conversations involving candidate trump, so he is able to get it fingerprints on this. to allow a second independence referendum. deputy leader angus robertson will open his party's spring conference by saying the conservatives have a "desperate desire" to prevent anyone rejecting brexit. but theresa may will tell her own party conference in cardiff that she'll fight to keep what she calls the "precious union". hungary is pressing ahead with the construction of two container camps for asylum—seekers on its border with serbia, despite a chorus of international criticism. by the end of march, the government plans to keep all asylum seekers in detention, including families and unaccompanied teenagers. agencies working on behalf of migrants sayti policy - agencies working on behalf of migrants sayti policy byj agencies working on behalf of migrants sayti policy by late migrants say the policy by late international law. —— violates. secondary schools in england could lose the equivalent of six teachers by 2020, according to a think—tank. the education policy institute says schools will see cuts on average of nearly £300,000 in the next three years. but the government says funding is at an all—time high and will continue to.rise.,,,, 5 the us secretary of state has said military action against nuclear armed north korea was an "option on the table". rex tillerson made the remarks during a visit to the demilitarised zone that divides the two koreas. he said the american policy of strategic patience had ended. he was speaking in the south korean capital, seoul, after visiting the demilitarised zone. the uk's biggest everfine for river pollution is expected to be imposed on thames water today. the compa ny‘s admitted to breaching more than a dozen environmental laws. stretches of water in 0xfordshire and buckinghamshire were heavily polluted, killing many fish. southern railway guards in the rmt union are to stage a fresh 24—hour strike on 4th april in the continuing row over staffing and the role of conductors. 151-55 555-1555's. -55555—5u55 reached a revised deal with the train firm's parent company, govia thameslink. aslef members, who rejected a previous deal struck with the company, are set to vote on the new agreement on 3rd april. haddock caught west of scotland and in the north sea has been taken off a list of sustainable fish to eat. the marine conservation society says stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost the number of breeding—age fish. but the decision‘s been criticised by scottish fishermen. indonesia has summoned after a ship operated by a british company ran aground on a coral reef, causing it extensive damage. on 4th march, the ii,290—ton caledonian sky hit reefs off an island in raja ampat, the region is famous for its biodiversity and the boat was taking tourists on a bird—watching expedition. the incident has caused outrage in indonesia and local officials have suggested the captain could face criminal charges. a security sniffer dog has been airport after it escaped its leash and grounded flights. authorities in auckland named called grizz, could not be captured after it ran away from its handler. animal—rights groups have asked why the dog could not have been tranquillised instead. that is a summary of the bbc news, more at 10:30. 0lly foster has the sport. low again, it is the final day of cheltenham festival, st the cheltenham festival, st patrick's day of course, and a fabulous week for the irish horses and trainers and jockeys, every chance that they will be in the winner's enclosure for the gold cup later today. that is what everyone will be looking forward to, not sure if mike bushell has any irish connections, jud; he if mike bushell has any irish connections, 1342.4 he certainly knows connections, but he certainly knows someone connections, but he certainly knows someone in a hat shop! ido! someone in a hat shop! i do! good morning, yes, i have got friends in a hat shop, i am one eighth irish, but after last night, probably half, because it was like being ina probably half, because it was like being in a small corner of dublin, eve ryo ne being in a small corner of dublin, everyone was singing, they were calling and ruby thursday after ruby calling and ruby thursday,5after5rubv,5 and calling and ruby thursdayafterruby and four winners in seven walsh and four winners in seven races, in fine form, and everyone was saying, djakadam will win the gold cup, ireland will beat england in the six nations on saturday. 30% of the tickets sold for today at cheltenham on gold cup date was sold to people living in ireland, so like a little dublin. the irish are so confident, as you say, ahead of the day and the gold cup, but willie mullins has never won the big race. so many winners but not the gold cup, and there is a corner of somerset that is trying to stop him again today. colin tizzard may not have his best horse here, thistlecrack, but two fancy runners are challenging djakadam in the betting stakes, native river and the people's horse, cue card. he works with his head on his chest, he gets to the top, he is a happy ho£ he to the top, he is a happy horse. he is not ready for anything else yet, he isa is not ready for anything else yet, he is a racehorse, and t—levels it. he is a racehorse and plexiglgiyg e really believe he has got a good i really believe he has got a good chance as he will ever have. —— and he loves it. the foster flutter is usually based on a horse 's name or whatever coloured silks the jockey is wearing, i know some punters go is wearing, i know some puntersge ‘when is wearing, i know some punterarge ‘ when they look at the form, deeper when they look at the form, the all important going on the course behind you. yes, somewhere at there the clerk of the cause is walking the course, i do not a there the clerk of the cause is walking the course, i do not if“ if”. if walking the course, i do not know if he's going 55; walking the course, i do not know if he's going i the fences, but he he's going over the fences, but he is inspecting it right now, and heart of the press he was telling me the conditions are absolutely :‘x’: ii because of that, excuse the perfect. because of that, excuse the pun, it is really a level playing field. he does not think it will favour any particular type of horse, but he thinks the momentum is with the irish. well, ruby and willie mullins on fire yesterday, and i saw djakadam a couple of weeks ago over in ireland, he was in tremendous i was talking to somebody native river, whether the about native river, whether the ground might be too quick for him, he won at newbury on softer ground, and the answer was, don't be surprised, he has got a real turn of foot. i am surprised, he has got a real turn of foot. lam not surprised, he has got a real turn of foot. i am not sure the conditions will be detrimental to any of them, actually. they would be described by the professionals as pretty well perfect. there we go, so even he has been a bit influenced by all the irish people here today and last night. there is that feeling that it is gold cup day and st patrick's day, and with the rivalry ahead of day, and with the rivalrylaheaei-5ef5= by day, and with the rivalrylaheaei-5ef5= rugby tomorrow, just incredible, the rugby tomorrow, just incredible, the rugby tomorrow, just incredible, the irish on top after ruby thursday, and i have got you a hat, i will bring it back to the studio, as modelled by david beckham a few yea rs as modelled by david beckham a few years ago. don't bother! thanks very much! mike bushell and two hats, he is keeping both of them! later, joanna, there is the europa league quarterfinal draw and the champions league quarterfinal draw, manchester united and leicester in that, i will be back with the headlines in the next 20 or so. next 20 minutes or so. so rude, that was very kind! he was expecting it! lots of you getting in touch in response to our report on the families struggling to care for children with not enough disabled children with not enough help. hayden has e—mailed, my wife andi help. hayden has e—mailed, my wife and i have a severely disabled five—year—old little boy, raphael. cerebral palsy, epilepsy, no mobility, no speech. the access to facilities seems to be a labyrinth with a geographical lottery thrown in. we are looking to buy a house, but where will be determined by local authority support availability. rafael needs 24—hour care, which we give now. as he grows, it becomes more difficult to move him around, change diapers, shower him and put him into an taken out of the car seat. we are not looking for hand—outs but help in navigating the system and find out what help is available. karen has also e—mailed, the government is co nsta ntly also e—mailed, the government is constantly targeting disability, and those cuts affect children and disabled disproportionately hard. it is always someone else's keep getting in touch if you are a pa rent of keep getting in touch if you are a parent of a disabled child and having these issues, or maybe conversely, we have had an e—mail from david saying we - in kent, from david saying we are in kent, the care and attention we receive is great. all of your views are very welcome, do get in touch, text will be charged at the standard network the prime minister theresa may will set out later her wish to create a more united britain when she addresses the conservative party spring forum in cardiff. having rejected calls for a second scottish independence referendum while brexit talks are under way, the prime minister is expected to say britons are "at heart one people", whether they're english, scottish, welsh orfrom northern ireland. scotland's deputy first minister, john swinney, says not allowing another vote on scottish independence is a "democratic outrage". we arejoined from we are joined from westminster by our political correspondent, mark ear aelitica! cerresaendent. malt. 5 5 5 5 and lorna gordon as well. lobel, and lorna gordon as well. mark, tough talk from westminster. we are expecting theresa may to talk about the conservative and union party, hitting back at the snp timetable for the referendum, another one, by spring 2018. she has written in the times sa§“g i another one, by spring 2018. she has written in the times §e§“g iti another one, by spring 2018. she has written in the times §e§“g it would written in the times saying it would be unfairto written in the times saying it would be unfair to put to the scottish people this crucial decision without the necessary information, and instead, at the conference, she will say that her priority is creating a united nations. lorna, with the government standing firm on the timing fora government standing firm on the timing for a referendum, government standing firm on the timing fora referendum, is government standing firm on the timing for a referendum, is there anything the snp could actually do to try to force it? well, the debate will go ahead, and they will vote in the scottish parliament next week, that vote expected on wednesday, and i think, when you chat to the delegates here in aberdeen, there is a determined and defiant atmosphere here. i think their focus groups, here. i think theirfocus groups i snp's here. i think theirfocus groups i snp‘s focus groups, showing that the snp‘s focus groups, showing that they believe that people do want a choice about a second referendum, they want a choice to decide scotla nd they want a choice to decide scotland 's future, when the terms of brexit are known. i think there will be a tinkering around the edge of the speeches, the snp had hoped to focus, yes, i independence,... but they will have to tinker in those speeches in light of theresa may's comments yesterday, we know angus robertson will argue that the tories are running scared of the people's choice, but especially look to nicola sturgeon‘s speech tomorrow, within the last few minutes she has arrived here at conference. i think she would give more details of how basic the way forward , more details of how basic the way forward, but they seem quite relaxed, i don't think theresa may's comments have taken them by surprise, and it is almost as if they see this as the start of a negotiation about the timing of any possible referendum going forward. much as been said about the mark, much as been said about the difficulties for theresa may in handling this so as not to harden favour of a referendum, sentiment in favour of a referendum, if that is exactly what she wants to avoid. that is right. she has tried to steer careful - between steer careful waters between draining energy away from the brexit d ra ini ngrerrerg’y’aw’a’y‘ffon‘rthecfitexitfii negotiations by having both of these negotiations by having—both—ofrthesa things going negotiations by haying—both—ofrtbesa things going on at the same time, having to fight a referendum in the north, and having these g having to fight a referendum in the north, and having these i complex north, and having these very complex discussions with the european union with a two year time limit. she is also going to try to win over the also going to tryiewinovetthe‘ scottish people by suggesting that it is not fair for them to scottish people by suggesting that it is not fairfor them to be scottish people by suggesting that it is not fair for them to be rushed into a decision, but at some point people will be asked a half she is prepared to hold a referendum then when? is it possible to gauge the wider reaction? delegates are determined and defiant but more broadly what might the reaction be? it is hard to tell. when you go out on the streets so far, this is a very rough straw poll, a rock sport, i think opinion is divided. some people feel pretty angry at what theresa may is seeing and ask- is theresa may is seeing and ask who is she to deny others the right to what we want for the future choose what we want for the future in light of what is happening with the uk expert in the eu, and others are the uk expert in the eu, and others a re weary the uk expert in the eu, and others are weary and do not want another referendum. undoubtedly there will be polling done over the next few days, there will be time for people to digest the latest t,“ twist and to digest the latest turn, twist and turns in these arguments over a possible second referendum. the picture will become clearer. possibly before that debate in parliament next week. what is clear that nicola sturgeon will not take no foran that nicola sturgeon will not take no for an answer. she wants a second referendum for scotland. she thinks it is up to the scottish people to decide and she wants the timing to be her choosing and she has already set out that timescale, before spring 2019. she thinks by that spring 2019. she thinksbythat it will be clear what the point it will be clear what the terms of the exit of the uk from the eu will be. she is very comfortable with her possession. she thinks that this is just the start of the negotiation, not the end. how are feelings in westminster? nicola sturgeon says she will not take no foran sturgeon says she will not take no for an answer but does she have a choice of westminster continues with this stance? no. she can hold an advisory referendum which her deputy minister was asked about on the radio today and would not commit to wanting to hold one of those. there are several risks there. the reason may have to handle her tone carefully because of the referendum is held she would not want her perceived stubbornness at this stage to count against her in the long run. in scotland we were talking about how difficult it is to gauge broader reaction. tell us more about the sentiment at the conference. people here, this is a big party in scottish terms, about 124,000 members . the snp, looking at a members of the snp, looking at a couple of thousand delegates. this isa couple of thousand delegates. this is a party that is four times the size it was back in september 2014 for the first independence 555" * people for the first independence 555” * people feel very referendum. people feel very relaxed. the atmosphere is very buoyant. people are defiant and determined. they believe with the support of the next determined. they believe with the support of the - next week support of the greens next week there will be a majority that carries this bowled—mac through the scottish parliament and they believe that theresa may may say we will not enter into discussions about section 30, but the arguments then will turn to not just 30, but the arguments then will turn to notjust the snp but the decision of the scottish parliament as well. it isa of the scottish parliament as well. it is a very tricky path for theresa may and nicola sturgeon to negotiate, very high—sta kes may and nicola sturgeon to negotiate, very high—stakes game, we hegatiate’; veabrgh-s’fasesfiffivfi see more details set out by will see more details set out by nicola sturgeon tomorrow as to what she sees of the options ahead. thank you. angus robertson from the snp is going to be speaking in about 20 minutes so we will listen to what he "1!an- to say and bring you ‘ he has to say and bring you whatever he says. comments on families looking after disabled children. very often it is full—time carers, the parents working full—time carers. seven out of ten families not getting any support caring for their disabled children according to new research. sophie says our son is six with severe autism and is mainly nonverbal. we do not have family close by and fight to fight for even getting nappies everything, even getting nappies took another year to sort out. we gmfi had to complain to see have had to complain to see action. paperwork to get straightforward things. getting direct - has things. getting direct payment has been a huge challenge. in a ridiculous situation of having been awarded direct payment but unable to access them for six months because woody would give us the we needed to make it possible. there must be a better way of helping families to get the resources they need. that better way of helping families to get the r mean es they need. that better way of helping families to get the r mean families |eed. that better way of helping families to get the r mean families contending does not mean families contending with more pressure, it is not right and it is not caring. i spoke to a mother of a disabled child and she told i about the pressures she is told us about the pressures she is facing. we have to be specially trained to react to everything that holly does. we do the job of an intensive care team at home. holly... are house is set up around holly... are house is set up around holly. we have machines to monitor her oxygen, heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, we are co nsta ntly pressure, temperature, we are constantly monitoring her to keep her well. for years you had absolutely no help. you get some. what difference does they help you get make? what amount of help are you getting? for many years we had no help. i relied on my sister. because otherwise i do not know what would've happened to us as a family we reach the point where - we we reach the point where might we felt we reached crisis point ourselves where my husband and myself were physically and mentally exhausted just through sheer caring. we then got something called direct payments which is some hours a week payments which is some’hpurs’a'weeir enable payments which is some’hcurs’a'weeic enable us to employ somebody which enable us to employ somebody to assist us to just really give holly a better quality of life which is all that we really wanted. all the care we were doing at home was very intense that we needed to do this but ye were missing out on life this but we were missing out on life asa this but we were missing out on life as a family. it had an impact on my other children as well. they are just as important as holly and our family life was compromised. we were not having any family time together. you have to max other children. it took a long time to get help. they do not know you were entitled to it? when you have a child with very complex health needs it is a very fragmented system. it is not a very good signposting and people do not really give you the option of care. we expect a lot of parents to know what is out there. we felt i was juggfing what is out there. we felt i was juggling care. i was having to justify the help i was leading and 40 parents to add met that i was struggling, that is a hard thing for a mother to admit and i do not bring anyfamily a mother to admit and i do not bring any family should have to be forced to say that. initially what would have worked better is if services around us could recognise the need and early intervention would stop anything like that happening to otherfamilies. anything like that happening to other families. tell us about your son george. he has a rare genetic syndrome which affects his pancreas and bone marrow and skeletal. those and bone marrow and skeletal.5those the main characteristics of the are the main characteristics of the syndrome. i also has autism of the syndrome. he also has autism of the severe end. he needs 24—hour care. 0bviously my husband and i deliver that. with family support. and good that; tsiith'famit‘g'ssppare' strict gums network. that; eith'famit‘g'aappart; éhci afflict network. tell us about the friends network. tell us about the pressures . friends network. tell us about the pressures. we are hearing the pressures. we are hearing the pressures that have been described. you just sort of manager with the daily challenges that you face. because george has quite a lot of health needs as well as the autism it is trying to balance regular for his health and also checkups for his health and also with daily life. you do get some help. we receive direct payments am we help. we receive direct payments am we have help. we receive direct payments aim we have done for about three which we have done for about three yea rs. we which we have done for about three years. we employ ssmebsa‘y but years. we employ somebody but u nfortu nately years. we employ somebody but unfortunately he is at university and can only offer help during the summer so and can only offer help during the summer so it has been difficult to recruit somebody else because this is our son recruit somebody else because this is ourson and recruit somebody else because this is our son and we do not wantjust anybody, we want somebody who understands george's needs. we also fairly recently have received a break facili 5 we onl breakfacili fife onl cet short break facility. we only get one night a month which is not a lot. however george has coped extremely well with it. he is independence. he loves- he is independence. he loves going. he is there with other peers. it broadens his spectrum of meeting new people and our next battle or fight is to ask for extra nights so george can perhaps be for a weekend and give perhaps be for5a weekend and g— ive = and perhaps be forwa weekend and g— ive = and i, my husband and i, a gary and i, my husband and i, a breakfrom gary and i, my husband and i, a break from the caring. you work as break from the caring—5 ei 355: (a? 355 life must feel pretty well. life must feel pretty relentless. it did. after having george, after the initial year when george, after the initial year when george had his diagnosis, i went back to work part—time, an opportunity for some career progression came up, so i went full time 55; unfortunately i could only time but unfortunately i could only sustain that with the pressures of all the things. it impacted on star lives. britain's surveillance agency, gchq, has described claims that it was asked by president obama to spy on donald trump as "utterly ridiculous". the unusual move to issue a statement came after white house press secretary sean spicer quoted claims first made on us tv channel fox news earlier this week. the snp will today accuse the government of being too scared to allow a second independence referendum. deputy leader angus robertson will open his party's spring conference by saying the conservatives have that she'll fight to keep what she calls the "precious union". hungary is pressing ahead with the construction of two container camps for asylum—seekers on its border with serbia, despite a chorus of by the end of march, the government plans to keep all asylum seekers in detention, including families and unaccompanied teenagers. agencies working on behalf of migrants say the policy violates international law. secondary schools in england could lose the equivalent of six teachers by 2020, according to a think—tank. the education policy institute says schools will see cuts on average of nearly £300,000 in the next three years. but the government says funding is at an all—time high and will continue to rise. a "53 in,, a? injapan has ruled the japanese garment was negligent in failing to prepare for the tsunami which triggered the fukushima disaster. people who were forced to flee the plant brought the case. the . é ruled that the operator of the court ruled that the operator of the plant, i court ruled that the operator of the plant, tokyo to, and the japanese government were both negligent because they had failed to prepare adequately for the earthquake and tsunami that triggered the disaster. —— tokyo electric power. indonesia has summoned the british ambassador after a ship operated by a british company ran aground on a coral reef, causing it extensive damage. on 4th march, the 4,290—ton caledonian sky hit reefs off an island in raja ampat, papua province, at low tide. and the boat was taking tourists on a bird—watching expedition. 15335 faaaaataa‘tha “fats“ could face criminal charges. haddock caught west of scotland and in the north sea has been taken off a list of sustainable fish to eat. the marine conservation society says stocks declined last year and action is needed to boost the number of breeding—age fish. but the decision's been criticised by scottish fishermen. a security sniffer dog has been biggest airport after it escaped its leash and grounded flights. authorities in auckland said the ten—month old, named caller! gri77 after it ran away from its handler. animal—rights groups have asked why the dog could not have been tranquillised instead. that is a summary of the bbc news. join me for more at i o'clock. back to you, joanna. 0lly join me for more at i o'clock. back to you, joanna. olly foster has the sport. manchester united through to the europa league quarterfinals, they beat rostov 1—0 with a juan mata goal at old trafford last night to go through 2—1 on aggregate. the draw for the quarterfinals is in the draw for the quarterfinalsrisirrthel next hour and a half or so, united are favourites to lift the trophy, which carries champions league qualification. the draw for the quarters of the champions league also takes place later this morning, leicester are the only british club left, they could face barcelona, real madrid or bayern munich, amongst others. nichols canyon, written by ruby walsh, one the mick the big race at the cheltenham festival gsatfifa‘a‘g. one the big race at the cheltenham festival geetfire‘ag. one of six the big race at the cheltenham festival geetfira‘ag. one of six irish festival yesterday, one of six irish winners. he writes djakadam in the gold cup on the final prestigious gold cup on the final day, that goes off at three column 30. warrington‘s - start to the 30. warrington‘s woeful start to the super league - continued, they super league season continued, they lost to newly promoted leigh centurions. i will be back on bbc for the rest of the day. news for the rest of the day. it has been entertaining, olly foster! now back to our top story today. britain's surveillance agency, gchq, has described claims that it was asked by president obama to spy on donald trump as "utterly ridiculous". claims first made on fox news and repeated by the white house press secretary are "nonsense" and "should be ignored." former mi5 intelligence officer ben owen joins us live in our salford studio, and crispin black is in dorset. thank you both very much forjoining us. thank you both very much forjoining us. crisp and black, do you think that this is just a ridiculous premise? —— crispin blunt. that this is just a ridiculous premise? —— crispin bluntlj that this is just a ridiculous premise? -- crispin blunt. i do not think it is ridiculous at all, we are going all parts of a cul—de—sac, we have been subjected to a cascade of so—called information about president trump's connections to russia, a sort of manchu in candidate sponsored by the successor to the kgb. there is no evidence for that, but it has been covered quite generously in the press. now the white house appears to have struck back with, you know, anonymously sourced deep throat allegations of its l sourced deep throat allegations of its own, and they are being quickly dismissed. it seems to me very inconsistent to cover the stories in that way. and what is your view, then, ben owen? these allegations do not have any tangible evidence, and there something has changed overnight. it is not something that if; intelligence would british intelligence would in my opinion. it is not entertain, in my opinion. it is not lawful, british intelligence is inherently covered by processors and law, and they stick to it, they have to stick to the letter of the law. it is governed very - this to stick to the letter of the law. it is governed very- this is it is governed very well, this is not something gchq would do, and as they say, i think this is at the lee ridiculous. crispin black, they have to stick to processors and the law — do they? we just don't know, these allegations are from anonymous 755 t z i 5 - and 755 t z i t - and they are unproven, but sources, and they are unproven, but know, the white house spokesman you know, the white house spokesman is saying very clearly that there is in them. so do you either something in them. so do you either believe the gchq spokesman or do you believe the gchq spokesman or do you believe president trump's spokesman? i think which one you choose to believe rather depends on your political views about what is going on in united states. there doesn't seem to be any middle ground at all. remember also, the nsa in the united states is also governed by law, but look what we discovered about them last year through wikilea ks. chancellor merkel‘s mobile phone bug, 125 senior german officials bugged. sometimes, intelligence agencies, they do operate outside the law and outside the bounds of common sense. you the law and outside the bounds of common sense. you say, who do you believe, gchq or president trump's spokesman? absolutely nothing has come out in the united states to give any credibility to the claims fifii‘ give any credibility to the claims in terms of evidence, has it? no, but nothing has come out to give any credibility to the concerns about connections to russia. there trump's connections to russia. there fiiiz trump's connections to russia. there is ! smoking gun, there does not is no smoking gun, there does not appear to be is no smoking gun, there does not appearto be any is no smoking gun, there does not appear to be any evidence. the media have been covering it with relish and enthusiasm. it seems to me that you have either got to believe the you have either got te— believethe’ allegations about trump abalone, in which case the about which case the allegations about gchq probably are baloney, but there may be some basis in fact. ben may be some basis in fact. bear what's to say to that? i have owens, what's to say to that? i have to agree that, yes, your opinion is very much based on your political views. in america right now, this is a phenomenon what we are experiencing, no—one saw it coming, so experiencing, no—one saw it coming, so the narrative around it is quite exciting, and what wade ego, pro or not broach rum. the broader issue with this story dates back to the snowden revelations. —— and what way do you go, pro or not pro trump. now people are more suspicious of intelligence agencies, so stories like this now have a bit of credence, they are a bit more interesting to the wider public, the media are listening to this a lot more than they would have before the snowden the internet snowden revelations. the internet and i snowden revelations. the internet and - i can find any answer i want and on, i can find any answer i want on the internet, if i punch it in, but people are missing the broader point with respect of the british intelligence agencies have a very good relationship with us intelligence agencies, and the five eyes have always worked closely together, and i think trump and his team are stepping on very dangerous ground at the moment by these accusations. they need to back it up with some tangible evidence. if it is evidence, and if it is true, i will be very shocked, but from where i'm standing, the ten years experience i have got, having worked with gchq and wider intelligence communities, i can tell you categorically this is not something that would be entertained at any level. thank you very much. we can bring in frank gardner, our security correspondent. is it a ridiculous claim? let's look at the facts here. it is very rare indeed for gchq or any of britain's intelligence agencies, m15 and m16, any of britain's intelligence agencies, m15 and mi6, . come out agencies, m15 and m16, to come out and publicly delight denmark deny anything like this. so for them to ta ke anything like this. so for them to take this step, they must be pretty sure of what they are saying, because they would like absolute fools, they would have their credibility totally destroyed if they were to come out and deny it and then it turned out to be true. so you know, usually, they say, as you know, we never comment on matters of intelligence — this time they have, because they wanted to nip this in the bud. but the source of this is a media commentator, a ‘judge speaking on fox news, formerjudge speaking on fox news, so formerjudge speaking on fox news, so it is not as if it is sourced from somewhere solid, it is a comment that has been’p’ig‘eefii from somewhere solid, it is a comment that has been’p’izee’ei up by comment that has been picked up by the white house. but this is a really dangerous development, because just as your two commentators were mentioning there, britain and the united states have the closest intelligence co—operation sharing of any two nations in the - and the wider nations in the world, and the wider group of five eyes, australia, new zealand, canada, the us and britain, they have this very close co—operation. now, it is unheard of that you can be in a situation where those agencies, which ultimately report to supreme elected political power, number ten, the foreign office in britain, the white house in the united states, that they are now effectively contradicting that now effectively contradictifigthet supreme now effectively contradictifigthet supreme political power in washington. this is a very unhealthy state of affairs, where you have got major real threats, proper threats, north korea's nuclear weapons development, - missile system, development, iran's missile system, russia resurgent et cetera. these are real threats, not fake news — those things are happening, syria, real problems in the world that need to be resolved. you cannot have this situation where the white house says one thing and then their major allies' intelligence agency says, allies' intelligence agency says;l thatis allies' intelligence agency says;l that is rubbish. on balance, i no, that is rubbish. on balance, i think i probably believe gchq, because they would look such fools = they were to issue that denial if they were to issue that denial and then it turned out to be true. what could the fallout be? the ball is back into the court of the white house on this one, because they are already on the back foot. because president trump did that tweet and is standing by his allegation that is standing by his allegationthat! ordered a wiretap on trump obama ordered a wiretap on trump tower, of which there is so far no evidence, they are feeling they have got to find something on this, and if you remember, sean spicer, the spokesman at the white house, press spokesman at the white house, has said he didn't get the cia to do it, the nsa or the fbi, none of the us agencies — he did it through gchq. that is such a specific allegation about britain's listening station that they felt compelled to deny it. now, there is close corporation between gchq and the nsa, and m15, they cooperate on a lot of things, and just as crispin black said, some things have come out of that are a little bit alarming. m15 has allegedly worked with the americans to develop software, quite aggressive row active software, that can basically hack into people's phones, understand what they are saying. they are not interested in where you do your shopping, nothing personal, or where i go! they want to know who was planning terrorist attacks. who was planning terrorist attacks, who is running guns into or across borders, who is organising sex borderswhoisorgamsrng—ser. ,, , et cetera. that is the 11532535 3515155 tee—melee: ttii 1332535 ii liii;i teitk—u—usxi tti they 1332535 i11i1il=i tei1—u—4lstttti they are after. 1332535 i11i1il=i tei1—u—4lstttti ‘they are after. in terms of stuff they are after. in terms of the allegations of hacking, is there the allegations of hacking. is there to be an inquiry, an going to be an inquiry, an investigation, we ever to going to get to the bottom of it? into which bit of hacking? the wiretapping of trump. well, there already is, the senate intelligence committee has come out to say that there is no evidence, but they have given the white house, initially they gave them a very tight deadline, said you have got until tomorrow to come up with evidence — they have extended that by a few days, but the white house has less than a week to come up house has less than a week to come up with this evidence, and i imagine that they are probably thrashing around. donald trump has put them in around. donald trump has put them in a very difficult position, the white house, because he has tweeted this without any evidence to back it up, and he needs to try and find something. currently, sean spicer and the press around the white house are trying to sort of say, well, he didn't mean specifically that president obama ordered it. that is what the tweet said, he has got himself in a bit of a bind. and let's not forget what crispin black said — there has been bugging of angela merkel‘s phone, that is pretty embarrassing. there is a lot distrust right now between of distrust right now between tit e :7: 2 2t; of distrust right now between i? g 27:5 5 155; a nd of distrust right now between {i 1; 2751; 15m a nd the of distrust right now between {i 15 e751; 15m and the united of distrust right now between {1 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conference. we cannot strict along, we cannot we cannot strict alongtwe unmet! drift along we cannot strict alongtwe cacmet! drift along for the next two years and just hope for the best. we face the very real prospect of a right—wing tory government until at least 2030, and being dragged out of the eu and the single market with the eu and the singlemarketwiflg ! the eu and the singlemarketwiflg ! the damage our economy and all the damage our economy and society and will cause. if the prime minister refuses to engage on the terms of the referendum before brexit takes place, then she is effectively trying to block the people of scotland having a choice of future. that would be a democratic outrage. applause if scotla nd if scotland can be ignored on an issue as important as our membership the eu - the single market, of the eu and the single market, thenit of the eu and the single market, then it is clear that our voice and our interests can be ignored at any time and on any issue, so when the terms of brexit aren't known, and not before, we will give the people the choice over the direction scotla nd the choice over the direction scotland should take place before it is too late to change course. the four people make that choice, we will set out the challenges and iiiiii iii 13qu iii ifiiiiifiéii ififi of independence. —— opportunities of independence. —— before. in particular, we will set out how to secure our relationship with europe, build a stronger economy, a fairer society, and forge a genuine partnership of equals across these islands. now, this, of course, has been a week of total chaos for the uk government, including the screeching, embarrassing you turn on tory budget plans to attack the self—employed. —— u—turn. in contrast, the scottish government and our first minister could not have been clearer — i am could not have been cleare; — g; e proud of the leadership, immensely proud of the leadership, the principled leadership we have seen the principled leadership we have seen from our leader, nicola seeh from es? teaser, te'icets sturgeon. cheering applause we are so very fortunate, at a time of instability and uncertainty caused by the hard brexit fixation of the tories, to have a first minister who is respected, notjust in scotland, but elsewhere in the uk and in europe for her efforts to protect us from the dangerous and damaging tory hard brexit. it is under her leadership that we have seen a willingness to secure a compromise agreement with the uk government, and of course we shouldn't forget that it was the prime minister who said that she wa nted prime minister who said that she wanted a uk wide approach, an agreement with the devolved administrations scotland, wales and administraflorfi scotland. twalestand northern ireland before triggering article 50. and it is nicola sturgeon who responded to the promise of that agreement and made a veiled compromise proposal, one that veiled cemhremise hrehees! she that . 1—1111—1—1 protect \t'ei!e!'i cshhhrshhiee hrshsee! she thet . 1—1111—1—1 protect our place in the would protect our place in the single market, have the appropriate single market. have the a—gg— rogr—iate; for eu citizens arrangements for eu citizens contributing and living here, and all of that within the united kingdom. it is she and the scottish government ministers who have attended meeting after meeting with uk government and the uk government ministers and the prime minister and absolutely no concrete progress has come whatsoever from the tory government side. contrast all of that with the leadership offered by theresa may who of course originally warrant that brexit would be a disaster but it is she who is heading towards the most extreme form of brexit imaginable. she is planning to take a vote of the single - she a vote of the single market, she wa nts to a vote of the single market, she wants to keep powers over scottish agriculture and fisheries at westminster. she is playing games with eu citizens and she is doing anything that she can to run away from her promise to only proceed % she had an agreement with the once she had an agreement with the scottish during this scottish government. during this week i asked her three times when she would reach that agreement with the scottish government before triggering article 50 and three c:- 1111. she iaiied to answer. you times she failed to answer. you might have seen her. prime might have seen her on prime minister's questions wiping her finger towards scotland and lecturing us to on what is good for us as lecturing us to on what is good for us as if we were not the children who should shut up and sit on the noticed there. i have news for you, prime minister. your mask has slipped down the realface prime minister. your mask has slipped down the real face of tory arrogance is there for all to see. and what your arrogant bluster does not conceal you and what your arrogant bluster does not conceal - you have and what your arrogant bluster does not conceal- you have no not conceal is that you have no intention whatsoever of reaching a deal with the scottish government. intend to break our -romise to you intend to break your promise to scotla nd you intend to break your promise to scotland and you think that you can get away with that. let me be clear to theresa may. you are not going to get away with it. angus robertson at the snp nicola sturgeon the snp conference. nicola sturgeon listening and looking on. the ongoing row over the timing of the scottish independence referendum. up next, how would you feel if you were told you didn't look right for your chosen profession? or worse still, that your chances of succeeding are slim because you're a woman or have the wrong colour skin? it might sound like something you would hear decades ago, but those are the kinds of things some university students are still hearing today, believe it or not. a survey of more than 2,000 students across the uk has found sexist and often discriminatory advice is being given by some employers, fellow professionals and even family and friends to those just starting out on the career ladder. so just how damaging is this sort of advice and what affect is it having on students? in the studio this morning are james uffindell from the bright network, a network connecting graduates and employers, they also carried out the survey. postgraduate student reesha siniara is also here. she ended up studying english literature at university, and not economics, which is what she really wanted to do, because of career‘s advice she was given. also here is third year undergraduate economics student kiran kapoor, who says negative comments about women not being to achieve have made her more determined to succeed. and lastly, readha park, who is a 20—year—old maths student from bristol is here too. she says she's fighting to make it in the male—dominated world of finance and receives negative advice regularly. somebody being told to marry the boss. absolutely. the researcher is shocking. the state of careers advice. lots of work being done but we to do advice. lots of work being done but we - to do more. we have half a we need to do more. we have half a million graduates coming out of uk universities this year but 50% of gap, graduate employers do not fill the vacancies. top employers like pwc wa nt the vacancies. top employers like pwc want to find the best talent but are struggling because this talent not are strurtatrtatliana because this talent not know about are struitatitatlinita because this talent not know about what it can do. does not know about what it can do. every year in the uk we have about seven or 8% graduate unemployment rates, in germany it is only about 296, rates, in germany it is only about 2%, and we are wasting valuable resource for the country. you wanted to study... you ended up studying english literature rather than what he wanted the study. why? was it because of what you were told? he wanted the study. why? was it because of what you were told ?m was advice i was given at college before i had considered going to university. i was told that a woman like me would never make it in the finance and banking industry. what? what did you take that to mean?” took it to mean that this person did not know much about me, theyjust name i.e., ethnicity and gender, so i assumed they meant something to do with that meant i would not make it in that industry. that had an effect? yes. they said teaching would be the easier route which is why at the time i did not think i would be able to do economics and i chose english literature. i still love my degree but chose english literature. i still love my degree - but i think love my degree anyway but i think that advice so early on at such an influential age steered me off the path i wanted to go down. you have had negative comments. tell us the things you have heard. talking to be bowling a casual conversation and you drop that you are doing an internship in banking or going to a internship in banking or goingto a= banking event and someone in passing would make a comment saying, i did not think you were the type for banking and you think, i did not know there was the type and i do not fit. were these generic comments or coming from careers advisers? not careers advisers, generally just careers advisers, generally from friends, people you just need at various events, people at just generally. university, just generally. sometimes they do not seem to come across directed but happen in passing intended with some humour attached. at one stage were told to be prepared to hit a ceiling in your career. who told that? family and friends. when my mum tells them what degree i am doing at university they are taken aback and they tell her, why is she studying so hard when she is just why is she studying so hard when she isjust going to why is she studying so hard when she is just going to end why is she studying so hard when she isjust going to end up why is she studying so hard when she is just going to end up starting a family and all of that is going to go . waste? they say that i need to go to waste? they say that i need to be prepared to make a decision whether i want my career or to start a - what about careers advice? you had helpful careers advice have you had helpful careers advice formal advice? that is individuals' perspective is not involved in advising you. my careers advice at my school has been really supportive, always pushing girls to go into sciences, making sure that go into sciences. making sure that; are making their way in a male they are making their way in a male dominated sector. i had a lady who told me once i should be prepared to hit a glass ceiling because she had to make a choice as well when she got to the age and i will need to do the same thing. that was a careers adviser? yes. how did that make you feel? taken aback because i adviser? yes. how did that make you feel? taken aback because 12 not feel? taken aback because i had not felt any different because of my gender. my mum has raised myself and my brothers equally, l have always my brothers equally, i have always been sporty, been part of the air cadets, and having a woman telling mei cadets, and having a woman telling me i have to make a decision and i cannot have - is shocking. with cannot have both is shocking. with the research use or the views of men and women. did many men have examples " fl and women. did many men have examples of terrible careers advice or doesn't seem be female? the more shocking elements came from women. there was a bit with men but the more shocking bets... one of our members was told you do not need a career, you are a pretty girl, marry the boss and live off of him. that is shocking. another was told as a black female you will never become a successful lawyer. we were amazed. it comes through in other ways. who is actually monitoring the advice? 15,1151; formal is actually monitoring the advice? £11151; formal organisation is. nobody. formal organisation is. there's a lot of good work going on in the sector but fundamentally a lot more needs to be done around this. this is why i set up the t't" _ because i am so passionate t't" _ it. because i am so passionate t't" _ it. you ause i am so passionate t't" _ it. you are! i am so passionate t't" _ it. you are sent| so passionate t't" _ it. you are sent off passionate t't" _ it. you are sent off to issionate about it. you are sent off to university and it is like, what next? a lot of careers services do mm work b --uttin the network good work by putting the network with individual advice is key and thatis with individual advice is key and that is what we are trying to do. one of the differences between male and female is that women undergraduates expect a starting salary of £30,000 whereas men expect £40,000 so already there is £10,000 difference. why? very good question. my difference. why? very good question. my sense is it is a qualitative thing, it is the advice people are being given around getting female stu d e nts being given around getting female students believing that they can for the big carriers. do any strive for the big carriers. do any of you have examples of being told what you might it begged to be paid compared to - i have been told compared to me"?s.hfimmi_——tt ~ 1 compared to menastfié ~ 1 i will have to work harder to that i will have to work harder to reach the same salary as male peers. who told you that? email teacher. but i would have to work harder and make sure i did myjob well. to get the same pay. i have had advice and comments where they say later on especially when you think about having a family and you want to balance your work, life, having a family and you want to balance yourwork, life, looking after children, you're going to have to work a lot harder to try to requests to work a lot harder to try to etrngresst in to work a lot harder to try to erogress in the to work a lot harder to try to progress in the same way that to work a lot harder to try to prio men in the same way that to work a lot harder to try to prio men do :he same way that to work a lot harder to try to prio men do not ;ame way that to work a lot harder to try to prio men do not have way that to work a lot harder to try to prio men do not have to iy that to work a lot harder to try to prio men do not have to take it to work a lot harder to try to prio men do not have to take these do, men do not have to take these things into consideration. it is something you will have to take into account. i have been told that bosses tend not to invest in women because they assume they are going to go off and have a family so they would rather progress and or pay rises to men. so i promotions or pay rises to men. so i should not be expecting the same thing. the things you were told early on impacts it on your choices. where are you now? when i was told that at that early age i was 15 or that at thatearlyageiwasrifiror'r'" " 11 andi that at thatearlyageiwasrifiror'r'" " 11 and i took. very that at thatearlyageiwasrifiror'r'" " 11 and i took i very seriously but 16 and i took it very seriously but now i understood what they meant and how i should not really pay hew ! sheets net reaiiy say ~ ~r ~ 1 to new ! sneeie net reaiiy say ~ ~r ~ 1 to that and i should attention to that and i should succeed and do what i want to do. i am doing a masters in management and have secured a graduate job for september. i pushed it aside. i realise i have to work hard at what ido and realise i have to work hard at what i do and be the best i can be. thank you. bbc newsroom live is coming up inafew you. bbc newsroom live is coming up in a few moments. we have had so many comments from you. parents caring for disabled children. there says i have the five—year—old child with complex learning needs and she experiences daily attacks of paralysis and there is no support for working families and services are for working families and services a re often for working families and services are often confused. - you for are often confused. thank you for your comments. thank you for your company. have a lovely weekend. see you soon. the clouds are rolling in and we have some rain on the way this afternoon and the weekend is looking pretty mixed across the uk. there will be some good weather around, mostly across southern areas of the uk. this is what is happening just now. this weather front moving into the north—western portion of the uk but more eastern and southern areas should stay dry. the best of the weather will be across the south, temperatures 15 degrees. for most of us temperatures 15 degrees. for most of us around nine or ten and colder in northern scotland. the rain and the wind moves across the country. the pattern, it falls on the same place, western h ills pattern, it falls on the same place, western hills and places like eases flue sea elesiiik — ~ a —— — — —— cumbria getting a good dose of rain this weekend. the outlook into this weekendttttnetouttjtootktintot= sunday, a lot of rain clouds. not a lot of sunshine but some across the south and east. enjoy. this is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11am. the snp insists there will be a second independence referendum and accuses the prime minister of being afraid of the people's choice. scotla nd scotland will have its referendum and the people of this country will ans the assets at this csentnj witi'i their she the secrete et thie ceehth;r eitti their choice. they will not be have their choice. they will not be denied their say. theresa may meanwhile is expected to set out plans for a stronger union when she addresses conservatives at their spring conference later in cardiff. britain's surveillance agency — gchq - has britain's surveillance agency — gchq — has described claims it was asked to spy on donald trump by president obama as "utterly a 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