penalties. at least in my former office we would not bring a criminal case under those circumstances. so when someone's already paid back the taxes, it doesn't seem that the prosecution really brings back that much in the door. this idea he wouldn't be charged if his name wasn't hunter biden has ring to it. >> that was barbara mcquade pointing out a possible political motivation behind the new tax charges against hunter biden. we'll break down those allegations against the president's son. we'll also recap donald trump's day in court for his civil tax fraud trial as the former president is expected today be the last person to take the stand. plus an update on the bipartisan negotiations in the senate on border security. the issue that's holding up critical aid for ukraine. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this friday, december 8th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. we begin today with news from the west coast. hunter biden is facing a major new legal challenge this morning after he was indicted on nine tax-related charges. the new 56-page indictment was filed late yesterday in california by special counsel david weiss in a federal court. it alleges the president's son failed to pay taxes, failed to file, aevaded an assessment and filed a fraudulent form. stating this, rather than pay his taxes the defendant spent millionsf dollars on an extravagant lifestyle. hunter biden's attorneys responded with this statement. coat, based on the facts and the law if hunter's last name was anything other than biden the charges in delaware and now california would not have been brought. the attorney added that hunter biden paid his taxes in full more than two years ago. if convicted, the president's son could face a maximum of 17 years in prison. the new charges come after hunter biden pleaded not guilty to federal tax charges back in july, which followed the collapse of a plea deal. a federal judge dismissed the misdemeanor charges in august, but then in september hunter biden was indicted on federal gun charges in delaware for owning a gun while being a drug user and for lying on a form when he allegedly purchased that gun back in 2018. an official with the biden administration said the white house learned about the new charges from public media reports and had no advance notice. meanwhile, former president donald trump was in the courtroom yesterday as his defense team presented in new york the $250 million civil fraud trial. his lawyers interview an accounting expert who said the case against the trump organization was baseless. the new york attorney general accuses trump's namesake company of filing false financial statements in order to receive favorable bank deals. judge arcter engoron who is presiding over the case, has already ruled the trump organization committed fraud and dissolved some of trump's businesses as a result. yesterday a panel of state appellate division judges paused that decision. that means the stay that the a.g.'s office previously agreed upon would remain in place until the full court hears and rules on trump's appeal. that likely won't come until next year after the fraud trial itself is over. now, trump spoke with reporters outside of the courthouse. he slammed the attorney general and call his attendance at trial election interference because he wasn't campaigning instead. >> this is weaponization of justice. this is something that nobody's ever seen to this extent. it's called election interference. it's a sad day for our country that a thing like this can take place. i'm sitting in a courthouse instead of being in iowa where i should be. >> trump who of course let's remind you is going to be on a ballot next year while hunter biden is not, trump is scheduled to testify for his defense on monday. joining us now state attorney for palm beach county dave aronberg. good to see you. let's start with hunter biden. there was some chatter last night these are fairly serious charges, so let's go to you. what do you make of them? do they seem fair they were brought, and what is the level of seriousness? >> good morning, jonathan. these are more serious than the gun charges. here you've got nine counts, three of them felonies punishable by 17 years in prison. he does have those other charges pending, but because of that he's not going to get anywhere near the 17 years if he's convicted, but still this is no slam dunk for prosecutors. they've got to prove that hunter's actions were willful, and that's a problem when the defendant is someone like hunter biden with a documented drug history. prosecutors are trying to counter that that he had an extravagant lifestyle and filing false forms, taking improper business deductions, but there's other challenges for the prosecutors by the fact that hunter biden as you mentioned paid back the taxes and it still helps the defendant because it makes him more sympathetic to juries and judges. that's why i'm a bit prized this case was brought in the first place. >> dave, let's move now to some of the legal peril facing donald trump starting with his new york civil fraud trial. he made an appearance yesterday. he's going to testify next week this time in his defense. he's already been on it stand as part of the prosecution's case. we know trump is shall we say an erratic witness. do you think his testimony will help or hurt his cause? >> erratic, that's a good euphemism, jonathan. this case is largely over. this is window dressing because judge engoron as you said has issued summary judgment. he's ruled for the state when it comes to fraud and now it's a question of how much pain it will hit donald trump in the pocketbook. but right now trump gets to go back on the stand and he's called by his own lawyer. this is different than the first time around when he was called by the state. he'll get a chance to free wheel and say all the narrative stuff he wants to about how he's being wrongfully attacked here by the judge and can't say anything about the clerk, though, because the gag order is in effect. he'll get a chance to spew his stuff on the stand and then it'll get cross examined. the judge has already ruled for summary judgment. >> give us your assessment of perhaps the most important development yesterday which was the trump team appealing a ruling that he found he's not immune from criminal prosecution in the january 6th case and asking for a freeze in the deadline on that case until this appeal is heard that could go all the way to the supreme court. do you think it was built here to slow down a case built for speed? >> that's his m.o., delay, delay, delay. if it delays matters then that happens him. this is the strongest case right now for prosecutors although ultimately mar-a-lago documents case is the best case, that one is not going until after the election. so the prosecutors are going after him in a d.c. election interference case as the most likely case to be heard before the election, so trump wants to push this as far back as possible and he's doing something unusual here. he's asking for a stay of the entire matter while his appeal on this issue of immunity is pending. but you're not entitled to a stay of all the hearings, but, you know, trump is thinking outside the box. he'll do anything to push this out until he can become president again, and then in his mind he can put the kibosh on all of this stuff. so, look, this is his gambit. he doesn't have much of a defense outside of this, but it's worked for him in the past. >> yeah, on important development as you say, dave, this is the one case many people feel could go to trial and even lead to a verdict preelection. trump trying to change that. covering the waterfront for us this morning state attorney for palm beach county, dave aronberg. meanwhile the texas now. a judge has granted a rare emergency order to a woman requesting an abortion. katey cox, a mother of two found out last month her 20-week old fetus has a rare chromosomal disorder likely to cause stillbirth or death shortly after the child is born. her doctors told her carrying the pregnancy to term could risk serious long-term health issues and could even put her own life in jeopardy. she also could lose the ability to children in the future. yesterday a texas judge issued a temporary restraining order that lifts that state's strict ban on abortion. so it would allow cox to end her pregnancy. texas law prohibits abortion from the minute of fertilization and allows private citizens to sue others who help a woman get abortion care. doctors who perform the procedure can also face-up to 99 years in prison and fines of at least $100,000. now, there is an exception for the life and health of the mother, but that particular provision is unclear. cox, the woman involved, spoke with nbc news about the case. >> i was, you know, shocked i found out i would not be able to get the medical care that i need here in my home state. it's painful. you know, i didn't want to be here. i think it's important to have medical care in my home state, and i wanted to tell my story because i do think it's important. before we went through this, i never imagined i would be in this position. i said i never thought i would need or want an abortion. i've always wanted a big family. i have a wonderful husband. he wants, you know, more kids as well. and so this has been a hard -- a hard time. and i think i just want to share so people can see that forcing me to continue the pregnancy and the pain and suffering put me through the risks of continuing the pregnancy, the risk of childbirth again especially given how my last two went, i think it's cruel. >> the texas attorney general ken paxton is threatening to arrest doctors who move forward with the procedure despite the ruling. paxton sent a letter to three hospitals where cox's doctor practices, and he threatened criminalrocution if they performed the abortio quote, the temporary restraining order will not insulate you or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violation oftexas' aboio laws inclin first degree felony prosecutions. the temporary restraining order will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating texas' abortion law expires. last week the texas supreme court heard arguments in a separate case looking to clarify what qualifies as a medical exemption under state law. still ahead, we'll have more of the morning's top headlines including an alarming incident outside a synagogue in up state new york. plus, president biden is putting more pressure on israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to allow additional aid into gaza. those stories and a check on whether and sports when we come right back. whether and sports when we come right back my most important kitchen tool? 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>> sounded like balloons popping. we were kind of oblivious of it. we didn't know what was going on at first. >> reporter: he said incredibly this wasn't his first mass shooting. he was at the deadliest mass shooting at the las vegas music festival in 2017 that left 58 people dead. >> how many times are we going to go through this? some people crying but you're descentatized to it. >> reporter: a legacy of violence leaving las vegas now. up next here on "way too early" we'll turn to sports and give you a recap of the thursday night football matchup between the patriots and steelers. plus lebron puts on a show in las vegas. we'll have the highlight from the nba in season tournament finals when "way too early" comes right back. tournament finals when "way too early" comes right back serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge as you. emerge tremfyant®. ask you doctor about tremfya®. oh... stuffed up again? 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>> sure, yeah. the president made it very clear obviously he sees the problem with the border, he wants to be able to do it. the white house made a clear statement hey let's get something resolved, ukraine is too important not to do this. i don't think it was helpful for him to make that statement and i reciprocate the argument to the white house. i hear you. >> in recent days there have been a number of senators calling for both sides of the aisle to be more direct in the talks. michael, good to see you this morning. you've been following the war in ukraine so closely from its first hours, and you've got a new piece up this week about how money and resources for ukrain and the impact that aid has made to the war at this point. tell us about that and what it would mean that it dried upch. >> first of all, jonathan, thank you for having me on. but the irony of this situation where you have sort of hard right republicans many of them who come from a nativists or isolationist camp wanting to quote-unquote defund ukraine. the main thing the maga gop wants the most -- people have misconses about how security to this country works. in actuality the money the president earmarks to send, quote, to ukraine is actually money intended to revitalize america's own military arsenal. so baitsically we're sending ukraine our own hand-me-down military equipment and paying to manufacture and paying to develop new weapons platforms for the u.s. military. so that's one. number two, in concert with one, this creates more jobs, manufacturing jobs across multiple cities. i think there was a study done that shows about 21 cities in america which work for defense manufacturers arehering new people to keep up with the pace of this dramatic increase in revitalizing america's arsenal. number three, you'll recall donald trump when he campaigned in 2016 kept talking about how nato was this grift, all these free loaders, allies who don't hold their weight well. defense spending in european countries has risen across the board, and in fact the european union outspends the united states on security assistance to ukraine. so maga actually gets all three things they claim to want the most, and yet in their infinite wisdom they say we have to be done with this, we can't be helping ukraine whatsoever. and not a single american soldier it bears repeating has lost his life. at a bargain rate america has managed to hollow out the russian military, 60% effective according to u.k. intelligence over the course of two years without losing a single american life and with the added benefit of bolstering our own military defensive capable. i don't understand republican obstinance on this. >> senior white house officials though do remain concerned. they're hopeful of a deal getting done this week. if there isn't one, if the funding does dry up, they worry it will hinder ukraine's ability to take any tearory or prevent russia from getting more. let's move on there. let's talk about what moscow is up to. vladimir putin met with the saudi crown prince on wednesday. he was hosting with the uae. and he met with iran's leader in moscow yesterday. he had some steps on the global stage he had avoided for some time. what does that tell you about his motivations here as we barrel into another year of war? >>putep has always thought his greatest asset in this war is time, right? he's in it to win it and believes with some legitimacy the west and we can look at our own country and the recent election results in europe this western coalition is tenuous and it will fracture. when it happens, for instance when the united states decides that's it, we've had it with ukraine, they're on their own, he will defeat this country because it relies almost exclusively on the ability for its western partners to resupply particularly in the realm of 155 millimeter amnegz and shells. russia has gone into full war mode. they are mass-producing ammunition they will need, whether they wage another offensive or continue to hold the line and try to basically cut a deal to gobble up the territory they currently hold, which is about 20% of ukraine's sovereign terrain. if you're putin you've had a very happy christmas so far, and this winter looks to be dire for ukraine even if the united states doesn't authorize this package. >> editor at insider michael weiss, thank you for joining us. have a good weekend mchb we'll speak to you again soon. still ahead on "way too early" we'll turn to cnbc for a look at today's top business headlines. plus we'll bring you a preview of the november jobs report, which is due out later this morning. as we take a look at the beautiful rockefeller plaza christmas tree. he beautiful rockefeller plaza christmas tree you guys aren't going to believe this. a guy in brooklyn just won $10 million from a scratch off ticket for the second year in a row. yeah, he's loving life. today he marched into his old job like i quit again! >> man, some guys have all the luck. time now for business, and for that let's bring in cnbc's joumanna bercetche who as always joins us live from london. joumanna, it is a jobs friday. jobs report from november set to be released later this morning. what are economists predicting? >> yeah, that's right, john. so let me just start with markets because yesterday we did see a better session for all the majors in wall street. the nasdaq saw a session up 1.7%. we saw strong gains in google parent alphabet after they launched gemini. chip makers up 2% and 9% respectively. today futures are trading slightly positive. of course the big event is going to be that nfp print. economists are expecting 190,000 expansion in payrolls growth. i should tell you in the last three months it's averaged 204,000, which is interesting. we are beginning to see moderation. the unemployment rate will also be in focus. that is 0.2% higher over the last 12 months. it hasn't moved up a lot, john. signs of a robust economy, and of course people are getting concerned about the softening and many signs of that heading into 2024. >> you just mentioned one of these companies. two major chip manufacturers battling for dominance in the latest in a.i. tech. tell us more. >> yeah, so amd is the chip maker that really soared yesterday in trading, up almost 10%. 9.9%, biggest day since may. its best performance goes back to levels not seen since june. this after they announced a special graphics processing unit, so gpu chip, that will saerjs go into powering data centers and would be in competition the ceo has said both microsoft and meta have committed to using the new chip. and after the launch of the chip citi analysts put out a note saying they do think amd will manage to capture about 10% of the total market. so some competition emerging versus nvidia. but of course nvidia are tending to be the dominant leader in the space. >> all right, cnbc's joumanna bercetche joins us live from london. thank you and have a good weekend. still ahead on "way too early," house republicans seem to be on the verge of launching an impeachment inquiry into president biden. we'll explain what that would allow the gop to do and why the white house is calling their efforts a baseless stunt. that's up next when we come right back. when we come right back is is just right. and i don't like anything. but i like this. get a light scent that lasts with no heavy perfumes or dyes. 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>> i think they're going to try. and i think johnson feels he has to. and remember who wants this impeachment really? who really wants this? donald trump, right? he wants to not be the only impeached president. and so you see that he says that publicly, he says that privately. there's -- you know, he's very ininvolved in that. so i do think speaker johnson has a problem, right? he has to placate trump. and he serves at the pleasure of donald trump and he has that job, right, because he worked on that tour to try to overturn the 2020 election. so i do think this is ultimately about trump, so they're going to have to even if they don't have the votes, they're going have to go through with it because that's what trump wants. >> you write about this in your latest "vanity fair" piece. you just got into the motivations behind it, but what's the end game here? how could it potentially backfire against republicans? >> that's the thing. nobody remembers what happened with bill clinton, and americans hated that. they did not like it, and ultimately what happened is republicans are way underperformed in that election. because they had done this, they had set things up. so i do think it's going to be a real problem for americans. again, we don't know. the electorate is very different than it was in 2004, but i think there definitely is -- remember nancy pelosi was so hesitant to impeach trump when there were real reasons to do it because she had seen republicans just get creamed in that next election. >> they tend to backfire. and lastly, briefly, let's be clear. there's such a distinction between the accusations leveled against donald trump and the accusations of anyone with the last name biden. we did talk earlier in the show about the new allegations against hunter biden. do you see that playing at all in the next election? >> the goal here is to muddy the waters and do this thing steve bannon talks about, to flood the zone. again, i think that people are so baked in, i think it would be hard to convince a swing voter that biden world has anywhere near the level of corruption that donald trump does. donald criminal counts, and he is in and out of court for the next year. so i think they would have to work really hard to muddy the waters. again, you know, this is such a partisan environment. who knows? >> let's be clear, hunter biden not running for office. >> right. >> special correspondent at vanity fair and host of the "fast politics podcast," molly jong-fast. talk to you soon. the talks for action from president biden in order to salvage his top foreign policy priority. we'll get into that. coming up on "morning joe," we'll bring you live reporting from jerusalem as the white house becomes more pointed in its criticism of israel's military operation in southern gaza. plus, we'll hear from the spokesperson for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. 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ask about the power of 3 with ozempic®. welcome back. we want to get to my new reporting about the negotiations between republicans and democrats on aid to israel and ukraine, now linked to the southern border security there. republicans pushing for the white house to be more involved. we heard from president biden in a speech this week say he was open to some measures at the border, and now pressure is ram racketing for he, the president himself, based on his years of experience of negotiatio ingneg step in and close the deal. joining us, co-author of "the playbook," eugene daniels. great to see you. first, let's talk about the politics of this. the white house and democrats, writ large, have been pretty reluctant to really go all in at the border for fears of what it could mean for 2024. but we are seeing a lot of democratic mayors and governors really sounding the alarm about the number of migrants in their communities and the strain it is putting on their resources. let's talk about the politics of it first before we get to the negotiations. >> this is a white house that has been struggling kind of the whole three years they've been in office with finding a balance between border security and border -- things that work and making sure they do not want to look anything like what happened during the donald trump presidency, right? that has been very clear from the very beginning, that that's top of mind for them. so you spend a lot of time during the trump presidency saying that the things that happened were draconian, they were terrible, and so they have moved away from a lot of those things. there is an internal dynamic where they know this is not working. we even heard the white house press secretary talk about that, saying this is not working. we have to figure it out as a country, and congress and the white house coming together and kind of getting some kind of border deal done. that has not happened the entire time president biden has been in office or years before that. i will also say, president biden put forth his first bill he wanted to do on immigration. that went nowhere. this is a white house kind of struggling to continue to thread that needle, to know that they need to get a little bit tougher on the border. they have to figure out how they do that, right? they're not just hearing from republicans, they could ignore that, but you can't ignore democratic mayors and governors who are being deluged with this issue. more importantly, the ones that are in new york or california where folks like greg abbott, the governor of texas, or ron desantis, the governor of florida, have sent some of these migrants. even to the vice president's home here in d.c. >> we report today that white house chief of staff has been talking to negotiationnegotiato sides of the aisle. republicans saying they're not ready. the white house has wanted to let congress sort it out, thinking their presence might alienate republicans and make them less likely to deal. could that change for this particular talk with that deadline to rapidly approaching? >> yeah, they got burned in that first year really badly when the build back better agenda, if folks can remember that, this social spending bill fell apart in a rapid fashion. and so what they learned at that point was they didn't need president biden, though he is an expert at this, spent a very long time there, they didn't need him to be the 101st senator, right? he didn't have to be as hands-on in negotiations. they also felt that republicans, when biden was having the conversations about these things and they were meeting him, that they were hearing from the constituents that this was a no-do, that it was becoming more politicized. that could change, right? you are seeing republicans, and in your reporting, showing republicans wanting president biden to get more involved. also a close friend of his in democratic senator chris coons saying, at some point, that has to change. it's probably not a question of if but when, especially if they want to get this ukraine aid that the white house desperately says they're running out of, the ability to help ukraine in its war against russia. it probably is a question of when. how they do it is a big question. does president biden do it publicly? does he bring folks to the white house and keep it close to the vest? those are the kinds of things they have to figure out internally. >> national security officials telling me how dire it'd be for ukraine if that money were to disappear, as russia prepares to mount a winter offensive. lastly, switching gears, the president's week has been dominated by two things, holiday receptions but also fundraising. he was in -- he has events in las vegas and los angeles. talk about the campaign as we head to the end of the year. >> it's a small campaign, right? when you talk to folks who are on the 2012 obama re-election campaign, for example, they say the comparison is different, right? it is a much smaller campaign because this is a campaign that is kind of leaning even harder than anyone ever has before on the democratic national committee. a lot of the work that is happening is going through the democratic national committee, and so aides stress to us all the time it is going to look different and democrats should stop kind of being worried that it seems like a small campaign. that's where we are. obviously, they see the same poll numbers we do, and they have similar concerns in the swing states, hiring people there. there are concerns and criticisms from democrats across the board saying that they want this campaign to seem bigger. i think this fundraising push is a part of that, making sure people see president biden out there more doing things that are directly connected to his campaign. he's had a very, very busy week and will have some more time next week to do so, as well. >> the campaign launches in earnest sometime next year. white house correspondent for "politico" and co-author of "the playbook," eugene daniels, thank you. have a great weekend. thank you for getting up "way too early" on this friday morning and all week long. 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