ukraine. cortney kube covers the pentagon. msnbc international affairs analyst michael mcfaul is the former u.s. ambassador to russia. and i'm joined by retired army lieutenant general steph twitty, an msnbc analyst. matt, bring us up to speed on the situation on the ground there. >> reporter: we're observing the law in most cities in ukraine that imposes a curfew and a blackout so we can't do outside to do this shot. we're in the city of zaporizhzhia, in the southeast corner of the country. not so far from the besieged city of mariupol, which is becoming more hellish by the day. i just spoke with a soldier fighting inside that azovstol steel plant. this siege is ongoing with what looks like could be hundreds of soldiers and hundreds of civilians including children. the russians have bombed what sounded like a field hospital in that facility. we spoke with the soldier, he said they have infinite amounts of ammunition. i'm not sure if that was just bombast or if that was really true. but he said that food and water and medicine are very much in short supply. now, we've heard from the united nations, antonio guterres, its secretary general. he said on thursday he's trying to negotiate the release of hundreds of civilians holed up with the soldiers under the that plant, especially those children. some of the civilians, according to this soldier i spoke with today, are indeed injured and in need of medical care. and with that field hospital having been bombarded, it makes things even more difficult. but we haven't heard much about that proposed humanitarian exit for those civilians. we heard from president volodymyr zelenskyy, he mentioned it earlier today, but he didn't gives us details. we've had no details on whether this is going to happen. russians have said to get the civilians out would be tantamount to surrender soldiers inside would have to surrender their weapons, put their hands up and leave. to the soldier i spoke with, that sounded like an impossibility. he said he and his comrades are willing to fight to the death. he says he knows of soldiers who did surrender and he had scathing things to say about those soldiers who went into russian custody. there is esprit de corps there and it looks like as though the troops in mariupol are making their last stand, willing to fight to the last end. >> matt bradley, observing that blackout order. matt, stay safe. cortney kube, one of the big heads lines is that the u.s. has started training the ukrainian military on how to use weapons that have been coming in on a daily basis. >> reporter: that's right, so remember early on, when there were a lot of questions about what kind of capabilities the united states could provide the ukrainian military, we frequently heard, that may not be the best system because it takes training. since then, now the u.s. is training the ukrainian military on a number of different systems. the switchblade drones, the u.s. started training the ukrainian military in mississippi before sending them over to train some of their colleagues in the ukrainian military on how to operate them. the u.s. has been training the ukrainian military on phoenix ghost drones, similar to the switchblades but slightly different. but on the bigger systems, the u.s. is now training the ukrainian military on these 155-millimeter howitzers. these are artillery guns. this is a new system for the ukrainian military. but it is expected to be the weapons system of this next fight in the donbas, what we were just hearing matt bradley talk about. the russian military has arrayed a tremendous amount of artillery, both inside russia and on the ukrainian side of the border. the belief, according to u.s. officials, is that the russians will use sort of the russian military doctrine here, and they will at some point just try to overwhelm the ukrainian military with just a massive barrage of artillery fire. we're already seeing some of it. but the belief is that it could even accelerate in the coming days of this offensive for the donbas area. the u.s. and other allies are trying to give the ukrainian military a fighting chance. the u.s. has already announced they're providing more than 90 of these howitzer guns to the ukrainian military and somewhere in the neighborhood of 200,000 ammo rounds for them, this 155-millimeter artillery shells. this is what it looks like, these artillery rounds. in addition to that, the u.s. is providing what's kaurnd counterartillery radar, the ability for the ukrainians to detect where russian artillery fire is coming from so they can take out the artillery systems the russians are firing from. that's another thing the ukrainians need training on. what's also very telling here, though, john kirby announcing today, the u.s. is training the ukrainian military in germany. that's a new detail we had not heard to date, garrett. >> cortney kube, thank you. general twitty, these phoenix ghost drones arriving in the region today, switchblade drones, military aid flights due to arriving in the next day, and cyber defense, we'll come back to that in a minute, but i'm curious where you think this war would be right now if it weren't for these shipments. how much of a game changer are the drones in a slugfest of artillery? >> yes, so i'll take the drone question first. these drones have a tremendous amount of capability. first, it has a reconnaissance capability to allow -- either put the system in the air, obviously without humans in it, go deep into russian lines, the artillery they're using, missiles defense, tanks and so forth. the second piece of this, these drones are armed. they are able, once they pinpoint the location of all these systems that i just talked about, to drop bombs on these particular locations and take out enemy formations. you heard her talk about the radars. complementing the drones are the radars. radars can pick up enemy positions. and now, the ukrainians have the flexibility to either use the drones or use the artillery to take out enemy positions. so a lot of flexibility there. now, let's talk about the greater weapons that are coming in. it's great that the ukrainians are getting training on all this equipment, extremely important. it takes normally a u.s. soldier about three months to go through training. these soldiers here are getting this in three, four weeks' time. and now the equipment has got to get in. it is critical that all this equipment, we just don't talk about it getting into ukraine, but also getting it down to the donbas, getting it into the hands of the soldiers so they can use it. that's the linchpin there. you better believe the russians are looking at the infrastructure to ensure they can take out that infrastructure. so it will not come by rail, air, and so forth. so that's the linchpin in all of this, getting it into the soldiers' hands. >> when you talk about infrastructure, in the 21st century, that also means cyber infrastructure too, right, internet infrastructure included in this pentagon briefing today, this discussion of equipment for cyber defense. what does that mean in this context? >> well, we know that the russians really hadn't put a full-court press yet on cyber. and now, the ukrainians are getting some pretty sophisticated weapons in. most of the things, the items you see going in now, they have some type of computer component and so forth. the command posts that are coming in, the communications that the ukrainians are using to execute this war, all are sophisticated digital-based systems. and so that's why it's important that we also, as we put all this stuff in here, ensure that they have a good cyber defense backbone to prevent the russians from bringing down some of this equipment that's going in. >> ambassador mcfaul, i want to bring you in here. talk about these russian missile strikes in kyiv which occurred while the u.n. secretary general was in the country meeting with president zelenskyy. the mayor of kyiv didn't mince words, he said it was putin's way of giving the secretary general his middle finger. do you share that assessment of what putin might have been trying to accomplish with these strikes? >> well, i can't be for sure, but that wouldn't surprise me. i think it was also in retaliation for attacks inside russia. the ukrainians have brought the fight inside russia, and i think that was his way to say we can still attack you there. but the real fight, as you've just been talking about, is going to be the battle of donbas. you called it an artillery slugfest, i think that's the way it's been described to me by senior pentagon officials and senior officials in the ukrainian government. and this will be a pivotal moment in this war. my own view of this war is, ukraine has already won the war. all the major things putin has wanted to achieve, he has not. but the big next battle for donbas is still undecided, who will win that. this new equipment coming in i think will be very consequential for giving the ukrainians the ability to prevail in this battle of donbas. >> someone else who might think the war is already over is apparently indonesia's president who said vladimir putin and volodymyr zelenskyy have both agreed to attend the g20 summit that they're hosting in bali. that's not until november. but i wonder, ambassador, what you make of that. is this the kind of thing putin should be allowed to participate in and what should the rest of the of the g20 members do, the u.s., do if this goes forward? >> i think that was a mistake. why should mr. putin be at the g20? by november i'm not even sure russia's economy will be one of the top 20 economies. >> interesting point. >> there has to be some kind of punishment, we can't pretend we'll go back to normal and show up to summits and pretend putin will be a member. i think that was a mistake. and i hope that will be revisited the closer we get to it, because maybe other countries, including our own, might 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asks, i just don't have more on that. but i know, one of the followups here will be coordination and discussion at a high level from members of their respective national security teams to continue to work together as we head towards the important meetings coming in a few weeks. >> reporter: now, garrett, there have been discussions behind the scenes at the white house about immigration more broadly, beyond just lifting title 42. what's important to note is that this discussion between the mexican and the u.s. president was also, as officials said, laying the groundwork for what's said the summit of the americas, the united states is hosting that summit this year. leaders from across the western hemisphere will be coming to los angeles and migration issues are expected to be the top priority of that summit. and there are a number of commitments and plans being developed in anticipation of that summit. likely some of the details being worked out on this call as well. >> mike memoli at the white house, mike, if you get any more news out of that call, let us know, we'll probably bring you back. mike memoli, thank you. new nbc news reporting about how title 42 is creating a traffic jam in the senate. the dispute over border policy is threatening to hold up action on key biden administration priorities like that $33 billion for ukraine aid that was rolled out earlier this week and $10 billion in covid relief funding. joining us is nbc news senior political reporter sahil kapur. his name is on the byline of this new reportin sahil, can you walk us through how these three seemingly unrelated issues have gotten tangled up? >> it's all about immigration, garrett. a covid aid bill was structured as bipartisan but republicans want an amendment that codified title 42 into law. they see an opportunity to continue driving a wedge into democrats because some members oppose president biden's policy. so they won't let that covid bill pass without that amendment. democratic senators have suggested adding the ukraine aid on, $33 billion, which has broad and deep support in both chambers. that still would require republicans to drop the filibuster and right now they're not interested in doing it. it's a bit of a rubik's cube as to how you do it all at once. >> do all three issues get even more stuck? >> that's exactly right. the only bill with a clear path to passage right now is the ukraine $33 billion package. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has indicated interest in that, that generally means there are the votes to do that. but that would leave covid in the lurch, and that is something the white house doesn't want to happen. they don't want the economy to get worse over this and they don't want covid money to continue to dry up for vaccines and therapeutics just as this new infection is continuing to wage around the country. >> what do you see as the chance that one of these bills gets left behind? >> it's certainly plausible, as long as nobody moves their 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[ sighs ] i can't remember. hell on earth. that's how the mayor of mariupol describes the situation at that steel factory in the southern port city. he says civilians and ukrainian military personnel in the steel plant are running out of food and medicine. can you give us an update on the situation in mariupol first? are you hopeful that russia may yet provide a humanitarian corridor to get these people out of there? >> honestly, i'm not hopeful at all. i think they really want to kill more and more people. today i was watching some of the memories from a year ago when i was traveling around ukraine, checking the south military bases, and the east, when there was first information there might be some attacks coming from russia. i was in mariupol, i was in kherson. my heart is breaking right now because all the places i visited, most of them are ruined now. so many people that i met are currently are surrounded, many people actually don't have connection anymore. so it's very hard. and this fight is very existential. i personally still cannot believe that such atrocities and the scale of such atrocities is actually possible. it's absolutely crazy and very painful. >> it's been horrifying to watch it all play out. i want to get your reaction to yesterday's attack on kyiv. russia claims it was aimed at military targets, the photos, the video we've seen certainly doesn't suggest that. president zelenskyy accused russia of trying to humiliate the united nations while the secretary general was in the country. what's your read on what happened in kyiv in the last day? >> this attack happened near the house where i grew up. it's very central, this is where my parents live. just seeing all of this is crazy, not knowing whether your house is actually on fire or no. i want to say that i'm sure that russia is doing lots of air strikes symbolically, to -- so i absolutely agree with the fact that the visit of the u.n. secretary general was one of the reasons russia wanted to show some power with air strikes. the same happened, if you remember, when the president of the united states, joe biden, was near the border with ukraine, the same was happening with some other western leaders. there were air strikes in western ukraine. so russia, putin, wants to show he doesn't care, that he can throw as many missiles as he wants. for him it's not a problem. >> i think our audio is cutting in and out a little bit, i hope we still have you. how do you look at the situation in and around kyiv right now? russian forces have been pushed out of that part of the country but obviously you're still under some bombardment. how does it feel in and around the capital right now? >> i'm not in kyiv, i cannot go back because i think it's not safe and i need to be responsible for my family and my loved ones and also for my life. and i know that i can visit kyiv but i shouldn't be staying there because in fact it's not safe. and yesterday was just an example, that it's not safe. so it's better to stay somewhere outside, somewhere more western. but again, with the explosions, with many people who are separated, families who are separated, lots of despair and pain, and of course the hope that it will be over soon. but as we know, it's more than two months already. but we are not going to forget that. so there cannot be any compromises from ukrainian side anymore. there is also so much pain and horror created by russia. so now it's very important for us to end this empire of evil. we need to do it together, together with the united states, with our partners from around the world. we shouldn't allow putin to commit more and more war crimes. >> lisa yaskow, a member of the ukrainian parliament, standing up to what she calls the russian empire of evil. thanks for joining us and do please stay safe. in the last few minutes, a manhattan judge rejecting former president trump's appeal denying his lawyer's request to lift a contempt of court order despite the former president smith an affidavit that he just can't find the documents they're looking for. this comes just three days after that contempt order kicked in which would fine mr. trump $10,000 each day until he coughs up the related documents. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny savillo. is this the end of the road for trump? there is never an end of the road to president trump. if there is a way to appeal, he will find a way to appeal. as a new york litigator i'm constantly requesting documents from a party or subpoenaing a party. in essence our system requires that person to act on the honor system. it's easy for somebody to come back and say, look, i looked for these documents, gee, i know they would be bad for them if i had them and it turns out i don't have them, isn't that fortunate for me. that's why in new york you have what's called a jackson affidavit, and the judge references this in this order, which is essentially, if you're going to say that, then put it in writing, under oath, in an affidavit, and more than that, detail what you did to look for the documents. and as i expected a few days ago when trump was ordered to do this or agreed to do this, that we might get affidavits back that were a little hazy on the search conducted and who conducted the search. and the judge keyed right in on that. you can see that in his opinion and order, that the affidavit saying i swear i searched didn't tell us enough about the search itself. >> danny cevallos with the breaking news on this trump contempt case. i suspect you're right, this will not be the last we hear about this. thanks for coming on about the breaking news. next, when young kids might finally be eligible to get vaccinated against covid. our medical experts are standing by with what you need to know. by with what you need to know.m. or the spin they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. th otezla, you can achieve clearer skin. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla can cause serious allergic reactions. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need? 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if you do the math there, you're looking at people who the parents are clearly vaccinated but they're not yet getting a shot for their kids. >> right, getting the shot for their kids. >> right. and it shows the win that the misinformation campaign has had when it comes down to the fear mongering that it's made amongst parents for their children. what we do know is as of february, we're estimating 75% of kids have been affected by covid-19. the fact is there's not evidence of lasting immunity if you get infected. the other problem is i think our rhetoric of not emphasizing that there are more consequences to covid than just death. that was a major problem that we made earlier in the pandemic. what we do know is that these children included and adults alike, are now experiencing long covid symptoms and they're having an increased risk of diabetes development and we know of an inflammatory process that the process creates on a developing body when your organs are not fully developed when we have decades of life to live, what does that do to your longevity of life? what does it do to your quality of life when we see other chronic illnesses that viruses are known to cause. we know viruses are linked to multiple sclerosis and they're related to hepatitis and liver failure and people needing transplants. we don't know what the long term consequences may have on that 5, 6, 7-year-old little kid, and if you can get a vaccine to protect them from that, if you can wear the masks to protect them from that and that's what every adult in america needs to be doing. >> a lot of parents watching this closely. dr. ebony hilton, thank you for sharing your expertise. >> for most americans the thought of marijuana might bring up images like a burning joint, ore chilled-out music and maybe a case of the late-night munchies, as states legalize recreational use of the plant, stronger and more potent forms of the drug are becoming available. experts can carry some real serious health risks. marijuana concentrates commonly referred to as wax or shatter have spread across the legal and the black markets, at times containing up to 90% thc. for context, if you were to smoke a blunt 20 years ago. the thc levels in that would have been about 5%. nbc news correspondent steve paterson got an inside look as states are undergoing studies to consider how much may be too much. steve, what did you learn? >> garrett, there is so much here. the amount of thc in these products is shocking. the links that researchers are tying to mental health is shocking and most surprising is how easy it's been for kids to get their hands on it. we went to denver who hear from teenagers who know the impact first hand. take a look. >> with more than 7,000 dispensaries nationwide, a $20 billion marijuana industry is growing so fast some state regulators say it's even outpacing alcohol sales. the cannabis choices are growing, too, with new products like wax or shatter now available. they're sold in fruity flavors and have levels of thc, the compound in marijuana that makes you high that could be eight times higher than the pot of 20 years ago according to state regulators and that's made some colorado parents like sydney block and janet corneal terrified. >> it was scary. she was slurring her words. she wouldn't wake up. >> sydney smoked weed when she was younger and she couldn't believe her daughter's reaction was for marijuana. i was, like, there is no way that this is just weed. >> i had no idea, i'll be honest. >> 18-year-old will and 19-year-old jasmine were both taking marijuana concentrates using what's called dabbing to get high. >> when i was getting into the high potency i don't think i ever had to pay money for it. >> you just got to handed to you. >> i could not be a coherent, functionally human being when i was using. i was using concentrated. >> one dab could be equivalent to smoking an entire bowl. these concentrates with flavors like fruit frenzy are legal for adult in colorado and not kids under 21. >> it got to the point where if i didn't smoke weed i wouldn't do anything. >> i couldn't go to sleep, or do anything without it. i got so dependent. they got help at 5280. designed for kids in recovery. >> the amount of thc that's coming into their system is causing severe psychiatric symptoms such as suicidality and psychotic breaks. >> new state data say the sale of the high thc has increased over 150% since 2016. the federal government says thc concentrates are more likely to produce anxiety, agitation, paranoia and psychosis. will and jasmine are both sober and have some advice for the cannabis industry. >> rather than putting so much time and effort into, like, making more and more and more potent things until we have 100% thc or whatever, i think that is possible to spend more time and effort into looking into how to protect our youth. >> so the cannabis industry association said it's a statement addressing this. i'll read it. it says in part, the best way to address these concerns is through proper testing and labeling as well as ensuring cannabis products are sold to fully informed adults through licensed stores. places like washington and colorado want to take it a step further by considering putting potency caps on certain products. >> weed is becoming a big business in so many states. it's interesting stuff. steve paterson in l.a., thank you. we're following breaking news on wall street right now where there's been a major sell-off in stocks as we head into the closing bell. all three big indices are deep in the red. the s&p 500 is on track for its worst month since march 2020 when the market collapsed under the weight of the covid-19 shutdown's getting started. it's one of those days where if you have money in the retirement act, just wait until next week to check it. thank you for watching next hour of msnbc. 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