them back and the deal that it's offering on housing. let us start with the war in ukraine. joining me now is kelly cobiella, ali vitali is on capitol hill, and kelly, i want to start with you. a lot of news out of ukraine today, and also news from the russian defense ministry. we have not independently confirmed this, but they are saying that they have hit some strategic targets in ukraine, and they say they destroyed power substations, an aerospace base with assets and military equipment concentrations in ukraine. what you have been able to confirm or figure out there on the ground? >> katy, that seems to refer to the strikes in kyiv late yesterday. that appeared to be the target as we were reporting late last night. we were not able to confirm what exactly was hit. now it looks this morning as though an apartment building was struck along with some sort of aerospace facility outside kyiv. that would match that. the ukrainians are usually a little hesitant to talk about any sort of military target being hit, and they don't give us a whole lot of specifics on what was hit in that category, but we did hear from the mayor of kyiv saying an apartment building, a 25-story apartment building was hit with a missile, and as they were going through the rubble today, sadly they discovered the body of a resident, a woman that lived in that building, a local journalist that reported for liberty radio, and sadly she was in that apartment building when the missile struck. as you know as well, katy, the big news here earlier today was that there were reports of a possible rescue operation to get some of those civilians, the most seriously wounded civilians out of the steel plant in mariupol, which has been sort of the last hold out in that city for several weeks now. we have tried to get confirmation on any sort of rescue mission. we have not been able to. we have talked to people involved in that -- in trying to get to that steel plant over the past several weeks, and the mayor told us yesterday in his interview that they have tried this over and over and over again. there have been many attempts at rescues at the steel plant, and each time they try to go in there's shelling or some other risks to life event that stops that rescue from happening. we are trying to get more information, but we have heard nothing more in the past six hours or so about a possible rescue there. we did hear there were signs at least some russian troops were moving away from mariupol, and unclear whether that's connected or how that piece of the puzzle fits in. >> helene, on that note that kelly just mentioned right now, troops were moving away from mariupol, what does the pentagon say? >> the pentagon has confirmed this morning in a briefing going on right now that some russian troops have moved away from mariupol, and they have not been able to confirm exactly why. they are also giving a pretty extensive briefing right now, looking at sort of the russian troop movements over the past few days. we just heard about this slow and uneven progress being made in the donbas region. the russian troops, according to the pentagon, are still very wary of getting ahead of their own supply lines. there's a lot of artillery fire and strikes in the donbas, but you don't have a lot of russian troop movement there. and then there's odessa, and they say they have not seen any kind of amphibious assault or troop movement there and there's speculation about what is going on, so there's a pretty comprehensive look about the goings on around the entire country. >> what about odesa, helene, because in order to capture the entire south and control the waterways, they will need odesa. you talk about speculation, and any word on what that speculation is on why odesa has been untouched so far? >> one person i spoke to said the russian military is stretched at the moment and they are having trouble dealing with areas like the donbas and mariupol, and holding those areas they had taken are still on the verge -- we could talk about this concerning mariupol forever, and so the entire russian advance, according to the pentagon just this morning, is going slower than they believe the russians anticipated. when defense officials talk about this, they tend to tiptoe around because they don't want to disclose their own intel sources and how much they might be listening to russian troop movements or over hearing whatever they are using, whatever methods they are using. they are careful with presenting what kind of expectation russia has, and even in the donbas where they are making some incremental progress, and they still think they are substantially behind the pace they thought they would be on. >> nbc news reporting about the amount of detail the u.s. has and how that has helped ukraine with precision strikes. the brits are spending 8,000 more troops for nato exercises with the idea of deterring russia from moving further, and there are increasing concerns about nato being drawn into it. >> you know, it's such an interesting question because depending on how you look at it, nato is being drawn into this, and certainly there are troops, the americans, we have said and we have gone up to 100,000 of american troops in countries now, and the brits are sending in more. at the same time, look what vladimir putin has done. he's hitting moldova, and these are not countries in nato. so far article 5, the nato article that says a strike on one nato country is a strike on all is holding. it has held completely. putin has not attacked a nato country yet. the last thing he wants is to drag nato into the war, and he's having trouble dealing with the ukrainians on their own, so it's all in how you look at it. these countries, britain and the united states, general mark milley, and secretary austin, and president biden will argue to you, by sending these troops to reendorse nato lines and borders, they are keeping nato out of the war. >> a look at what is going on with finland and sweden joining nato at some point later this year, maybe, maybe after their applications go through. as you mentioned, it's an interesting situation right now and what is happening in moldova and the lack of tiptoeing into nato territory. is everybody on the same page when it comes to the $33 billion that president biden wants to send to ukraine? >> katy, they seem to be on the same page about the aid itself, and it's the process where this is starting to get a little confusing and where there doesn't seem to be a coalescing about what moves it forward. and speaker pelosi speaking to the reporters now as we speak. listen to what she said about the ukraine package. >> a formidable package to help the ukrainians fight for democracy, their democracy, our democracy. it is strong in terms of what it will do, in terms of the assisting with security there. it is strong in terms of what it will do to help the economy as well as the humanitarian assistance. >> speaker pelosi walking through some of what the package does, and at the same time between the house and senate -- she was just asked about this in the last minute or so whether or not the house wants to see this $33 billion aid relief package paired with a $10 billion covid relief package, and it's unclear whether or not that is actually going to happen. pelosi saying she would be okay with that, but there's legislating that needs to be done here. on the senate side, that's perhaps where it's more important because the house will take it's cues on what the senate can do with part of this. part of the reason they want to pair the two packages together, while there's broad support for the ukraine piece of it, the covid comes with parts of title 42 and they are not sure who would go against what the administration is planning to do, so a few complications here, katy, but the broader question in washington is what has been done and what can they further do to support ukraine. >> thank you very much. the first public hearings from the january 6th committee will be held in just over a month, but who exactly is going to appear? 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>> yeah, katy, well chairman bennie thompson was chatty with the capitol hill press corps, and as you mentioned, there will be eight public hearings, some during primetime and some not. he said specifically it would include exhibits, staff testimony and outside witnesses. the panel is hoping to be able to include more information from that staff category in the form of testimony from several gop lawmakers in the house and the senate that the panel believes has more information that could help them really fill in the missing puzzle -- pieces of this puzzle in the probe that lasted almost a year now. thompson said the panel will formally be calling for their participation, and some gop lawmakers have not been subpoenaed and they have not cooperating, so we are expecting whatever chairman thompson is referring to, for requests. we have seen text messages between gop lawmakers and former white house chief of staff, mark meadows. we have seen audio recordings that surfaced of kevin mccarthy. it's showing the panel knows there's knowledge from the lawmakers as to what went on before, during and after january 6th as well as the president's thinking during that time period. this is really just them trying to tie up the loose ends ahead of the public hearings, katy. >> jake, what more can you tell us on that? >> i would guess, katy, what would bring this to life and what the committee is going to venture to do is bring in some of the former trump administration white house aides that have been helpful to the committee behind the scenes. many times there are hosts of trump administration aides that have helped to draw out the road map for what happened on january 6th, the planning and the president's mind-set. all that will be super interesting and i help that will come to life. again, the most important thing i would say is going to be having some of those former trump administration officials who have been helping behind the scenes come out of the darkness into the light, as a band that you and i like says, and bring some of those -- what is happening into the light. >> is there an actual chance you will see a house republican in the public phase of these hearings testify without a subpoena? >> zero chance. i think -- unless something happens that we don't see today, i think the republicans -- remember, who voted for the previous incarnations of this committee are already having primary opponents use that in campaign ads. we have seen that across the country, and we feature it quite frequently in punchbowl news. i don't think they would add that much, to be honest with you. every member of congress experienced the same thing on that day so i am not sure there would be much to add. >> what sort of expectations is the committee trying to set for this, jake? >> you hear bennie thompson lay it out. he wants to tell the story. it will be like the impeachment trials in some respect, right? they will try and tell a story through antidotes, evidence and testimony. they have interviewed countless amounts of people and countless accounts of reporting on this incident. i think they will try and build on that public narrative, what the public already knows with some behind the scenes antidotes about the president's mind-set, what he was doing on that day and most importantly, how it came to be that there was an insurrection at the capitol, who was funding it and behind it and who was behind the rally. that will come out in the eight hearings and eight hearings is a lot, and it's going to be a jam-packed summer. >> given the lessons of the impeachment hearings, and the second one was bipartisan, and given the lessons of the mueller report and how that was unveiled, is the january 6th committee looking at those and saying we have got to find a way to really cut through the noise of politics, cut through the partisanship here, and try to talk to people who might not otherwise want to hear what we are saying. is that why we are seeing them in primetime? >> i think partially, yes. i think there was a big debate eternally on the committee about when to start holding the hearings and when they would have a moment to speak, so to speak, to have a moment without news when they could break through. there's a recognition from the people i have spoken to, there's a certain sect of the certain populist that do not want to hear it, and all of it is complete nonsense, obviously, and they are not going to be able to reach those people. by the way, katy, remember, this committee, i would say, has much more evidence and reporting and behind-the-scenes stuff that i would imagine either the impeachment trial had. remember, this committee has folks, jamie rasen being chief among them, who were on the -- part of the impeachment process. that's an important thing to keep in mind. >> it's also interesting that they have liz cheney and adam kinzinger. thank you very much for being here. today a british man that pleaded guilty to his role in an islamic hostage scheme will be sentenced and faces a life sentence in the death of four americans, three by beheading. alexander coaty was one of the men that were dubbed the beatles by hostages because of their accents. pete williams is following this story for us. what can you tell us? >> this is a dramatic and emotional day in federal court in alexandria, virginia, and not because of the sentence because a life sentence is what it will be, and taking part in the kidnapping and murdering of international hostages, including four americans, aide workers and journalists. prosecutors say coat yea is ruthless and chilling and his conduct is one of the worst crimes that could ever be committed, and he and three other british men that kidnapped and killed the hostages, they said he had a quote, thirst for extreme violence and depravity. the hearing was a result from the statement's, and one said i can say to you you no longer have power over me. another said you destroyed our lives and we hope for the rest of your life you will think about what you have done. the only question about the sentence is where he will serve it. his lawyers are asking the judge to recommend prison other than the super max facility in colorado. that's where other terrorists are held. and they say he has been compliant since being brought to the u.s. two years ago, and solitary confinement would degrade his health. they were nicknamed the beatles by the captives, as you noted. and a second man was convicted earlier this month, and he was in the court to hear the victims speak so they don't have to be brought back in his sentencing to speak again. >> pete williams, thank you very much. coming up, a near complete ban on abortions. what is happening in oklahoma? 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ages two through five. experts say the rates appear low but are in line with what adult and teen vaccines are showing after the omicron variant. >> it might seem low, but, again, some protection is better than zero. >> and dr. hartman helped conduct the moderna trial. >> there was no severe disease or hospitalizations observed during the trial. overall, the infections in these kids tended to be pretty mild, even in this time of omicron. >> it's welcome news for frustrated parents who are saw especially vulnerable to the disease. >> steve knee has a 3-year-old with a metabolic disorder that puts him at high risk for covid complications. >> i home the fda pushes this through. we are so ready to re-enter the world. >> so many other parents remain hesitant. >> i have not made up my mind whether i will get the kids vaccinated. >> only 28% of the kids ages 5 to 11 have gotten two doses of the vaccine, and the cdc says most americans have been infected with covid, and coast-to-coast cases are 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effective in the state of oklahoma. that's notable because there's another piece of legislation he signed that all but bans abortion across the state and that goes into effect later this summer. this is something that is mirrored after the restrictive law in texas and a number of studies have said after that was signed into law, women seeking abortions had to go to other states to get that procedure done. nearly half of them, 45% of them came to the state of oklahoma. that now stops under this law. here's a little of the debate we saw in the oklahoma legislature we saw take place yesterday. take a look. >> this will save many lives. it has been proven in texas and will do so in oklahoma. >> this bill is intrusive and reduces individual freedoms and it's just plain wrong. >> reporter: these are conversations happening in statehouses across the country, and in florida there was a bill signed banning abortions after 15 weeks, and so this is something that is going to face a number of legal challenges. the president of planned parent hood already said they are going to file something to stop it in court, and once its signed into law, it immediately becomes effective and the governor plans to sign any anti-abortion situation that hits his desk, katy. >> thank you very much. also, when you are talking about going to college and buying a home, well it could finally be obtainable again, and what president biden could be about to announce on student debt forgiveness, and what one city is doing about affordable housing. first up, though, a report on what we are doing to our oceans. a study in the journal of science found that one-third of all marine life could go extinct within the next 300 years if greenhouse gas emissions keep on rising. warming waters are cooking creatures in their ow a study says most extinctions could be prevented. ons could be prevented pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release 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in this new legislation led by the minority whip. they don't even want the pause on student loans to continue and they say he cannot cancel or forgive student debt, and the president said he is not considering 50,000, and he has not given a dollar amount. >> i think there's an argument to talk about the age of people currently in congress and in the white house. when they were going to college, there was much less money and you could work your way through college. going to college now, i get the idea that you have to work your way through and pull yourself up by your boot straps, and college now is insanely expensive, and the debt from that is crushing and the job market when you get out of it is not that good. >> there are democrats who say the system is unfair. we tell young people to go to college and they have to take out loans to graduate and now they are punished for it. democrats at the grassroots level and the highest level of congress that the president on this issue doesn't get it. >> it was elizabeth warren. >> based on my reporting, the president has dug in and he wants to keep it $10,000. he said if you went to harvard, penn, the american people should not be repaying your loans. and so most americans are at the higher end of the income spectrum. most americans don't have student loans because most americans didn't go to college and that has been one of the major stumbling blocks of the white house. >> it's not just the ivy league schools that cost that much. community college can cost a lot when talking about housing and books and et cetera. it's obviously not as much. i am confused by the idea that we are not going to help you be a better more educated citizen in this country by going to college and trying to give back, and that doesn't make sense to me. >> your argument is right on the merits. >> a lot of people that go to the schools can't afford it themselves and they reached a long way to get there. >> yeah, and they don't realize until they are adults that the loans they took out in college would end up hurting them in the long run. >> and it's demographic-based a little bit, and the democratic base is younger and college educated, and that's where we see a disparity. >> what does it mean for the midterms and 2024 presidential election? >> for the 2022 midterms, this is something president biden can do to have an impact on young voters that are disengaged, and they don't rate the administration highly, and we spoke to them about why they somewhat disapprove of biden, and what comes up is the cost of living, and this would be a major piece of relief the president could do unilateral, in theory at least. >> and the question on whether the president has the authority to do this, and he tasked lawyers to look into this last year, and if he did not have the authority he would have said that by now. >> the war in ukraine is taking a lot of money. $33 billion is what biden was asking congress for to help the ukrainian people, and i don't think there's many people out there that say it's a bad idea, and there are people questioning where that coming from, and so why can't we have relief in college loans, and it has to be a hard pill to swallow for people struggling? >> all the loans given to big business during the pandemic, and republicans had no issue with that, and forgiving the student loan debt becomes a big problem. >> there are so many college kids, and they are not going to come out anyway so we don't need to indicator to them? >> part of the reason, younger voters don't see themselves as being democrats but as independent, and the idea is you waive student loan debt. >> listen, both political parties need new voters, and those are new voters and they will be the only voters soon enough. it's so great to see both of you. welcome back to the studio -- i should say thank you for welcoming me to washington. the cost of buying a house just jumped according to the national council of realtors. and now one north carolina mayor has an idea to make housing more accessible. we talked to a man that just moved there and says he has been struggling to buy a home. >> every time i looked into, you know, getting a property, reaching out to realtors, the properties were being snatched up. part of me leaving jersey was to have a lower cost of living and that has not been the case. >> underscoring these soaring housing prices is this headline in "the atlantic," why americans are leaving downtowns in droves. it looks at the largest metro areas in the country, including new york, chicago and d.c., where i am right now. he writes all of the populations were growing in 2011 and in 2021 they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people according to an analysis of census data. that's an urban exodus nearly the size of two wyomings. the author of the piece joins me now. part of this is pandemic, getting out and finding more space, and as the pandemic starts to recede, people who were coming back are finding that the housing prices in the city, and they thought maybe they would go down because everybody was leaving, but they are shooting way up. >> i think it's three things. number one is the pandemic. that shook up a lot of peoples' lives. number two, it's the first thing you mentioned, household affordability, these cities where housing is expensive because we have not built enough housing, and as a result families, young families, middle class families in their 30s and 40s are moving out where housing is cheaper. and then three, the thing you have to look at here is what remote work is doing to white collar lather, and it's severing the tether between home and work. this is not 1995, you don't have to live in san francisco, you can live in north carolina and oklahoma and still work for a company like airbnb. >> they will try and buy back some of the homes in one town and try to resell them. is there going to be a cost difference here? are they going to use eminent domain to buy these places and then lower the price. how does that work? >> this has not been tried before, and in some cases it could require the eminent domain, and it could require acting through some subsidiary with the government buying up houses, and the government is subsidizing home ownership, and it subsidizes all sorts of things, and the governor is thinking about directly subsidizing home ownership. it's a sign of progressive policy in some city levels in terms of understanding the crisis of affordability, and it's part of the fact we have not built enough houses. we had a collapse of home building after the great recession, and as a result there's a scarcity of homes in the country. that means prices will go through the roof and that's what is happening across the country, prices going through the roof in pricing, and the private sector is not able to control the problem, and maybe the public sector has to have a solution here. >> in new york, there's a number of new towers that have gone up all over the city and being bought up by a lot of foreign money and they are creating in some areas kind of ghost towns around them because in the buil aren't shopping locally, going to the coffee shop, a sandwich down the street, not using the supermarket. is it being discussed anywhere, some tax on people who buy those properties, a disincentive to buy the property or a way to use the money that they are paying for those giant, amazing, beautiful apartments to give back to the community to make sure that there's affordable housing somewhere else? >> i think there's two ways to look at this. the supply side and demand side. your question looked at the demand side. people buying the units. shouldn't there be rules that force the people who own these to be living in that tower or in that townhouse for a majority of the year, more than 70%? i think rules like that are interesting to look at. i want to make sure we are focused on the supply side. it's better to build a tall tower than build nothing at all. it's better to build a ritzy luxury condo building than nothing at all. it's better to build housing than not to build it. i am more concerned about parts of the country where building is outlawed by regulation than i am about parts of the country who are building very, very tall. >> what about the new move toward building printable housing? i have seen stories from some areas country where they are taking giant printers, the 3d printers you can buy on the market, but they are huge and they are printing homes. it can happen in a matter of days. >> i love it. i absolutely love it. i love it because productivity in construction has been flat for decades. we had incredible productivity, how am i talking to you, communication. we have had productive in the physical world. here we finally have the intersect of software and hardware. that's fantastic. we should root for that, for an expansion. more houses means cheaper homes for people. >> it's a really cool thing to see. i suggest you 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