that will be within a month. as on the hill, democrats get ready to control a nominee's path for the first time in more than a decade. with most of the drama coming not from whether dems will hang together, they probably will, but how many republicans, if any, will get on board. new reaction coming in this afternoon. developing at the white house right now, president biden and the leader of ukraine may be still on the phone. what we know about what they're saying with the white house worried about a russian invasion of ukraine. plus, back here at home new polling out of georgia and spoiler alert, things are not looking quite so peachy for democrats. what the numbers say for people like joe biden and stacy abrahams going into the midterms. with reporting we broke here on the expensive lifeline to save vulnerable house seats. i'm hallie jackson along with the rest of the team. ali vitali on capitol hill and peter is our justice correspondent and let me start with you. president biden made clear he wants to move fast and name this pick and says he will before the state of the union in early march. i have to think it has something to do with the timing here. >> the president will make this decision before the end of february and the white house won't give any details about his time frame for the actual confirmation process once the nomination is made. but today the president did want to put the focus on stephen breyer the retiring justice after almost 30 years on the supreme court praising him as a model public servant and he now presented with promising as you noted that he will keep his campaign pledge to nominate the first black woman to the supreme court. and here's exactly how he shared that in his remarks this afternoon. >> person i will nominate will be someone with extraordinary qualifications, character, experience and integrity. and that person will be the first black woman ever nominated to the united states supreme court. it's long overdue in my opinion. i made that commitment during my campaign for president and i will keep it. he has already been reviewing the writings and the biographies of some of the candidates. it dates back to his time as a candidate, frankly, even as a president-elect where he first received a formal presentation about some of the best potential candidates from some of his top advisors at the time and the focus right now has really narrowed down to a series of individuals. i know my colleagues will get into it a bit further. topping that list right now is a 51-year-old from the court of appeals in the circuit ketanji brown jackson who you see on the left. significantly the reason her name gets a lot of focus because she was confirmed on a bipartisan basis by the senate, hallie, last june with all 50 democrats and three republicans. lindsey graham, lisa murkowski and susan collins are those three. >> ali, that teases us up nicely for you. let's get into the new reporting because we just heard from the chair in the last couple minutes in chicago on what is next for him. i want to play that. >> i received a call yesterday from the president's chief of staff 9:30 in the morning and told me that justice breyer was going to eare tire. he asked me to keep it under high hat because they weren't going to announce it until today. that lasted about 30 minutes before it broke in the news and i asked mr. klain, do you have a nominee? said we're in the process. no one has been chosen yet. it's a little early to predict the timetable for this hearing. >> it may be early to predict the timetable, ali, but also heard from senator schumer when we were coming on the air they want to get this done as soon as possible here. the foot is on the gas. >> early to predict the timeline but not too early to set some goals for what democrats would want it to look like. they want to move as quickly as possible. the sources telling us the timeline in mind that is more similar to amy coney barrett which took 27 days. that is a lot faster than the nominations tend to go. the time it takes for the nominees from the time they're first nominated until they are confirmed is actually closer to 70 days. democrats trying to work on an expedited timeline here. just because there is no nominee does not mean conversations taking place. senator durbin saying it is too early but at the same time senate democrats on the judiciary committee are meeting this afternoon on zoom our sources tell us. we'll get more of a sense of where they are going next. >> got to love a good zoom meeting on big news like this. >> absolutely. >> let me ask you this. some framing on this that this is a big political show down and big political fight and it feels, though, there have been instances where a member of the president's own party votes against that president's pick if is a controversial nominee. in this instance it feels if there is any drama how many republicans to peter's point, three republicans joined on to confirm judge jackson in the lower court and we don't know what they'll do if she is the lower court this time. no indication they'll split with president biden at least so far particularly when it comes to such a monumental and generational pick like this. >> yeah, it's monumental and generational and, of course, it's a huge and frankly badly needed win for this white house and for senate democrats who have stumbled the last few times when it was imperative for them to stay unified and things pretty much fell apart, both on build back better and on voting rights. this is a big moment for them to show to stand together when the president needs them to and also look at the metric that we've seen so far here in the senate. of the 42 judicial nominees that biden put forward and the senate has confirmed, democrats have voted to confirm all of them. it does provide us a good stepping stone to see the way that democrats might react in this moment and then, of course, you're right. you have to turn your attention to the republicans here. we often every time it becomes supreme court nomination season and we have done three of these in the last five years, you start to look at the people on the republican side who tend to come to the top of this conversation. collins and murkowski were critical during the trump era. when you look at some of the potential replacements here that the biden administration could put forward we know, for example, the way these senators have voted on, for example, judge brown jackson, she had as peter mentioned three republicans cross the aisle and vote to confirm her. of course, those are some of the people we're looking at most closely as we move forward on this. you're right. in terms of the political stakes, kind of the same conversation that we have been having that democrats have the majority and now they just have to move it. >> just to correct some misinformation republicans couldn't block this unless a democrat got on board, right? >> the way it works it has to go out of the committee. they can vote it out of the committee. even if that's a tie, schumer can move it to the floor and because of the power share agreement. >> pete williams want to bring in with you somebody who has just popped up on our screen here nina totenburg. so great to have both of you here. pete, let me start with you. much has been said and we talked a lot over the course of the last 24 hours on air about justice breyer. look ahead to people likely to replace them. two to three names that are on everybody's tongues at this moment. we don't know who the pick is going to be but the short listed frontrunners. tell me about them and then, nina, i want to ask you about them, too. >> same names we have been hearing for about a year when justice breyer should step down and the white house has had plenty of time to look at them. they continue, those who are judges, hand down new decisions and that adds to the homework. but this is not, this is not a process that is just getting started. that's one point i would make. in terms of the nominees, ketanji brown jackson a federal appeals court judge in washington and put on the court to fill the vacancy after merit garland left to be attorney general. she knows her way around the supreme court because she was a law clerk to justice breyer. leondra kruger clerked and she is a justice on the california state supreme court and during the obama administration she was at the justice department solicitor general's office. the top appeals court lawyers and she argued a dozen cases there. and then there's jay michelle childs a court judge in south carolina and currently nominated to an appeals court position. so, it would be unusual if she bypasses that and goes directly to the supreme court. i guess we would call this nomination before judgment. but she has the backing of a key supporter congressman jim clyborn who said her blue collar background would be additional diversity to the supreme court. >> nina, i would love to hear from you on this. for a lot of americans the supreme court is relevant to their lives. is how they decide on really critical cases. the court as pete and i talked about early this week or last week, we know affirmative action a couple key cases brought in frupt of the court next term when this new pick will sit on the court. what do we know about the legal philosophies. i think pete would call it the jurisprudence of where these judges are and how they might sit on the court. >> well, you know, i think it is a little bit difficult to tell. judge jackson, who's on the d.c. circuit, has been there i think less than a year. i don't think she's issued any major opinions as a court of appeals judge. she issued a couple of opinions involving president trump when she was on the district court. and judge kruger is on state supreme court. and even though she has extensive background in being an advocate in the supreme court and in the federal courts, the decisions she makes right now and for the last six years or so have been about state court matters. so, i think you have to presume that either of these one way or the other are going to be to the left of what a republican nominee would be. but i don't think either of them is considered some sort of flame thrower either. they would, if confirmed, the three liberal justices. but there is a big range to liberal. just like there is a big range to conservative. >> it's a great point. can you pull back the curtain a little bit, nina. what is happening behind the scenes as it relates to the moment between now and a month from now. end of february when the president says he will make this selection. as pete notes a lot of the leg work has been done here. what's the process over the next four weeks? >> the president said he will consult members from both sides of the aisle. so, he's going to consult republicans. i doubt that the republicans will be determinative on who he picks. but he is going to at least do that, which i don't think president trump did. or for that matter really, president bush before him. or president obama, although obama named i think really named garland his failed nominee who couldn't get a hearing because republicans were blocking his nomination in hopes of winning the presidential election. obama picked meritt garland because look if there is a democrat on the court or so-called liberal on the court merrick garland. this time they're going for motivating their own base and doing what the president wants to do. i think he really is comfortable with this. president reagan, for example, pledged during the campaign that he was going to name a woman. and he did. he named sandra day o'connor and he felt very strongly about it. certainly by the time he did it. and i think the same is true of biden. he pledged during the campaign to name african american woman. among other things for the purposes of having not just white and male bench, but for his own political base. >> pete, let me come to you on final thoughts. everything is an accelerated timeline and that is not unheard of. how to you see it? >> it will be very fast. of course, you know, think back to justice breyer's confirmation. 33 republican votes. those days are gone, however. the last three nominees got very few republican votes democratic votes. amy coney barrett didn't get any. i think the biden administration is counting on getting at least a few republican votes and that may be enough. now the question is how fast can the nominee zip through all those meetings with republicans in advance trying to shake as many hands or whatever we do now in this covid age at least do meet and greets with as many senators as possible and try to move this thing along. i mean, if he will do the nomination by late february, then i will certainly think, it's interesting the way justice breyer's letter was written today. he intends to step down at the end of the term assuming his successor has been nominated and confirmed by then. i think they will certainly have time to do that since we're looking at the very latest early july. >> pete williams, anita -- go ahead. >> the last time that happened was when justice alito was confirmed before sandra day o'connor left the court because she agreed to stay on because suddenly they -- this was an unexpected extra. they had two openings to fill. roberts, chief justice roberts had confirmed in i think late september and there was this, the alito nomination was put over until february when he was confirmed. this isn't the first time. but i think that's the wiggle room. i don't know how many times in the history of the court this has happened. and how long it has happened for, but i'm quite confident that the white house knows. >> nina and pete, i could spend 35 more minutes talking with the both of you. i will not subject you to that treatment. i'm so thankful. >> we won't subject you to it is the better way to say it. >> thank you, both, so much. really appreciate it. a whole lot of news breaking this afternoon including back at the white house what we know about president biden's call with ukraine's president. that may actually still be happening as we speak. we'll check back in to see what the status is. also new update from the pentagon. we'll talk about what we're hearing. also which side spotify is taking today in a battle over misinformation. that's coming up. over misinformation misinformation that'som cing upburning sensati. what is this nightmare? 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>> well, i think the two countries are taking very different approaches, but zelensky from what he said publicly to what he is conveying to his people seems to want this to go away and want it to be resolved diplomatically and president biden himself has said that he doesn't believe, he hopes it can be resolved diplomatically but he thinks russia will take some sort of military action. and if you look at what russia is doing, russia has put 120,000 troops or so on its borders and more troops are heading that way starting february 1. significantly more troops including fighter jets and s-400 missile defense systems will be heading towards belarus. it's gotten to the point where zelensky and president biden may be talking about different subjects. president biden has said repeatedly that he will, that he supports ukraine and that nato supports ukraine but that nato and the united states aren't going to come to ukraine's defense. they will send in some weapons. they have sent in some weapons. but the defense of nato stops at ukraine's borders. so, it is up to ukraine. up to its military to defend itself and some ukrainians are starting to now wonder if their government is aware of the danger. is president zelensky downplaying the crisis. there is a meme going around and there was a movie called "don't look up" and the movie is about a comet that is about to strike the world and destroy the planet and the president doesn't want to accept it and doesn't want to look up. there is a meme going around that says don't look up and there is a picture of president zelensky and that is circulating around ukrainians. starting to be a feeling that there might be a real crisis and the president of this country might not be taking it as seriously as he should be. >> critical contact on the ground in ukraine. kelly o'donnell, thank you to you, as well. appreciate it. brand-new polling out of georgia. what it could mean for democrats and perhaps an uphill battle in a key swing state. plus nbc's new scoop pointing to maybe more mid term trouble for them. the party's internal and growing list of house democrats in need of re-election help. s in need s in need of re-election help. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmwa and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. mm. 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>> the extent of president biden's struggles in georgia surprised me. his approval ratings are down to about a third. 34% here in georgia. that is a sharp decline from the 62%, 51% it was at in may of last year. that shows you the honeymoon is clearly over for president biden. his coalition of supporters is showing signs of fraying here. the discontent among voters has quadrupled. 60% of black voters in georgia disapprove of the president and his numbers slipping with independents. those are two key parts of the coalition that helped flip georgia in 2020. >> when you look at the biggest gap here between governor kemp and stacey abrams. is that reflective of kemp's strength or abrams's weaknesses? >> stacey just launched her campaign in december and they haven't started spending their money in the organization. that a reflection of that. there are voters that feel that governor kemp is a better adversary to stacey abrams. they were neck and neck in their matchups, but certainly governor kemp's camp is using this to drop out of that republican primary challenge. >> can i just bring that graphic back up for a second. a number on the bottom of the screen if we could look at it again. the number of the people phrasing the question haven't decided or haven't engaged in this race. it's against purdue it's 6% but against kemp 7%, which is the margin. i say this to say we're still months and months and months away from the mid terms. we know a lot of people in georgia and across america unless you're a super political junky like we all are here on msnc you're not engaging and thinking about the mid terms until they get closer. we are ten months out from when people start to pay attention, no? >> a lot could change, including president biden's approval ratings could go up and they acknowledge just that. at the same time all three of these figures running for governor are extraordinarily well known to georgians. so not like an attempt to try to boost their name recognition. david perdue came off the most expensive u.s. senate cycle in the nation's history. hundreds of millions of dollars were spent boosting him or tearing him down and stacey and kemp are universally known in georgia. i don't see that number changing too much. i want to turn to mark murray. let me pick up where greg and i are leaving off. i am reminded what senator lindsey graham said 24 hours ago as it related to the justice breyer retirement. boy do georgians know it. it is what happened in georgia what made it for to confirm with 50 votes a supreme court nominee, et cetera. how important is it for democrats to remind folks of that message, right, that georgia made the difference in helping the senate turn blue? >> it is absolutely important, hallie. particularly when senate control hinges on a flip of one seat in the republican's way. not only is georgia going to be important but nevada, potentially a place like new hampshire and democratic pick-up opportunities in places like wisconsin and pennsylvania. but, hallie, those polls that you were just showing to me, it does show that president biden is having a very rough spell right now. that's confirmed on our own national poll. but also really strikes out to me is while democrats are down within the margin of error or slightly outside is just how much not necessarily joe biden's approval rating is hanging over the balance on these candidates and they're all running much higher than joe biden's approval rating right now. maybe joe biden's approval rating isn't the most important factor and determinate factor that we'll see in other races across the county. >> exclusive news we broke here first by the new effort of the democratic party to put more resources behind vulnerable democrats running for re-election in the midterms. seven of them. what does this say to you about the direction that the democrats are taking and basically the optimism, i think, about where this goes? >> this is just all confirming this is a very challenging environment, hallie. this comes from reporting from our colleagues and added seven new front line members, including congressman gotheimer and senator of virginia among a couple who are added as front line they're paying attention because they're worried about this overall environment. and this is a much different cycle than in 2018 than when democrats were talking about our opportunities to flip this republican district. this is about holding on to democratic seats and democratic areas that haven't necessarily been top tier races in other political environments. this is where democrats have to defend a lot of districts. it's going to be tough for them. >> mark murray, greg, great to see both of you. appreciate it. now to the january 6th investigation. i want to show you somebody on screen here. this is the guy that wore the camp auschwitz shirt remember when he stormed the capitol. he is pleading guilty. the sentencing will be in april. nbc news reporting a judge ordering the founder of the oath keepers to stay in custody until his trial. i want to bring in senior national political reporter. >> pleading guilty to a misdemeanor of essentially trespassing on the capitol. that charge carries up to six months in prison. he was photographed during the riot wearing a sweatshirt that read camp auschwitz referring to the death camp during world war ii. now a much more serious charge at play of seditious conspiracy leveled against the far right group oath keepers. a judge ruling that this man must remain in custody pending trial saying he poses a flight risk and his authoritative role in the conspiracy as well as continued violence makes him a credible threat. now, separately, we can report that on tuesday the january 6th committee spoke to a man named ben williamson who is a top adviser to former chief of staff mark meadows, a source telling our colleague garrett haake it was an hour's long deposition. we don't know the content of what was said. upcoming now in the next few weeks and months, the committee will have to make some big decisions. do they subpoena members of congress who they have asked for voluntary cooperation and not gotten it. do they pursue further contempt referrals for other noncooperative winses and when they do roll out hearings in a formal way the committee's findings on what happened on january 6th and what led to it. >> live for us on the hill, thank you. coming up, why spotify is taking down neil young's music at his request, kind of. we'll explain the saga and why it matters in the era of misinformation. we have ben collins, coming up. we have ben collins, coming up these moments may not seem remarkable. but at pfizer, protecting the regular routine, and everyday drives us to reach for exceptional. ♪ ♪ this is the new world of work. each day looks different than the last. but whatever work becomes, the servicenow platform will make it just, flow. whether it's finding new ways to help you serve your customers, orchestrating a safe return to the office... wait. an office? 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>> sort of a new tactic here in terms of yielding power that is otherwise not there. neil young by himself is not enough to take down rogan. he is the number one podcast and hundreds of millions of listeners and neil young has about 6 million a week. that's great. that's really spectacular for t line business decisions, they'll stick to rogan. but if a larger collection of people come together and they'll say i will remain untitled that could provide a strategy in the future for battling this sort of thing. collective action. >> talk about spotify's responsibility. they have taken down something like 20,000 covid-related podcast episode since the start of the pandemic. but joe rogan's is number one. $100 million contract with the company. what is the responsibility that spotify bears in making some of these decisions from a clearly with a very business lens? >> yeah, i think you have to look back to how joe rogan sort of gained his audience and the difference between spotify and youtube in terms of how he makes money. they have revenue sharing with and joe rogan the alorithm towards him the next four or five years on youtube and he was able to split ad revenue with youtube from there. spotify made a calculation of the people that he had, you know, brought on from both algorithmic and growth on youtube that they would bring him on to their platform to take on his millions of listeners that he accrued through youtube. spotify isn't passively in the joe rogan business in the way that youtube was. they made an active decision to pay this guy $100 million to take on his information. when he has people, you know, from the misinformation community, frankly, alex jones, people like that. he doesn't challenge them in the way he'll challenge a doctor. it's all funny and goofy when he has alex jones on but the hard-hitting questions about virology that he doesn't understand when it comes to doctors. >> ben collins. fascinating to look at this. thank you so much for being with us on this topic. appreciate it. next up. how the country's official haul cast memorial is commemorating today. numbers show more and more younger people lack even basic knowledge of what happened 77 years ago. a look at that aspect of misinformation coming up after the break. at that aspect of misinformation coming up after misinformation coming up after the break. first psoriasis, then psoriatic arthritis. it was really holding me back. standing up... ...even walking was tough. my joints hurt. i was afraid things were going to get worse. i was always hiding, and that's just not me. not being there for my family, that hurt. woooo! i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. i'm feeling good. watch me. cosentyx helps people with psoriatic arthritis move, look, and feel better. it targets more than just joint pain and treats the multiple symptoms like joint swelling and tenderness, back pain, helps clear skin and helps stop further joint damage. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections—some serious —and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur. it's good to be moving on. watch me. move, look, and feel better. ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx. ♪ ♪making your way in the world today♪ ♪takes everything you've got♪ ♪ ♪taking a break from all your worries ♪ ♪sure would help a lot ♪ ♪wouldn't you like to get away? 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>> it is very alarming to see what's happening to young people and the education about the holocaust and history in general in this country and i think it's a moment to rededicate ourselves to the teaching of holocaust history and only need to witness the events to remind ousts that the lessons need to be learned. anti-semitism didn't begin or end with the holocaust and had a horrible hostage incident at a texas synagogue. it is lessons of the present. it was once said that the importance of holocaust education so no one's future should be like his past and this is a moment to commit ourselves to learning the lessons. >> also in that survey half of the people reported having seen distortion or denial online. what is the action to take on that front coming to the issue of misinformation around this? >> we have to recognize what a serious problem this is. anti-semitism is rooted in conspiracy theories and social media unfortunately just lends itself to this. and it remind me of something that hitler said which is propaganda is a terrible weapon in the hands of an expert and anyone can be an expert so all of us needs to engage in the fight against misinformation. it is not inspector general ignorance. you mentioned what happened in texas. hostages held at a synagogue in month. one of the many striking things is hearing from the rabbi saying he had gone through security training. we know that at synagogues people have extra security precautions in place. doors locked for example when services begin. the fact that jewish people have to go through this and the rabbis to go through training. what does that say about the state of anti-semitism in this country? 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