how close we came to losing our democracy and how fragile that democracy remains. after their dear leader told hem to head to the capitol, a maga mob descended on the hill violently clashing with police, smashing through windows. they swarmed the capitol asking where are they counting the votes, and where are you, nancy? it's a testament to the capitol police that they didn't reach their targets. we saw officer eugene goodman heroically divert the mob, but four police officers died following the events of that day, and speaker nancy pelosi held a moment of silence for them as part of a day of remembrance on the hill today. the only republican member of the house who attended was liz cheney who brought her father, the former vice president dick cheney, her republican colleague adam kinzinger said he wished he could be here, but his wife is about to have a baby. democrats spent the day sharing testimonials of their experiences. house members also got together to serve food to capitol police officers as well as to hill staffers thanking them for their service. this morning president biden delivered one of the most important speeches of his presidency. he had some strong words for the former president though he never mentioned him by name. >> for the first time in our history a president that not just lost an election, he tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. the former president of the united states of america has created and spread a web of lies about the 2020 election. he's done so because he values power over principle because he sees his own interests as more important than his country's interests, than america's interests, and because his bruised ego matters more to him than our democracy. those who stormed the capitol and those who instigated and incited and those who called on them to do so held a dagger at the throat of america. >> biden then vowed to fight the enemies of democracy that still pose a threat to this country. >> i did not seek this fight brought to this capitol one year ago today, but i will not shrink from it either. i will stand in the streets. i will defend this nation, not allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy. >> the former president responded with his usual desperate pleas for attention. we're not going to give him any air time tonight. this comes as we are still learning more about what exactly he was doing during the hours in which he refused to stop the insurrection. >> all i know about that day is that he was in the dining room gleefully watching on his tv as he often did, look at all of the people fighting for me, hitting rewind, watching it again. that's what i know. >> with me now congressman pete aguilar of california, member of the select committee, malcolm nance, nbc counterterrorism and counter analyst. and stuart stevens, senior adviser to lincoln project. thank you all for being here. this is a day that is unforgettable to me because i can remember every moment of that day really and thinking to myself, my god i hope that these marauding masses of maga supporters don't find the black history museum and ransack it. that was the first thing that struck me as i saw them, you know, heading toward the capitol and starting to bash their way in. i'm thinking what other treasures could they find that belong to us as the american people and destroy. for some reason that was the thing that stuck in my head. i wonder if there's something in particular that stuck with you given all of your experiences and what you saw that day? >> yeah, i think for me, you know, honestly, joy, i was at a disadvantage as a lot of my colleagues were on the house floor. we didn't have access to television. we had a lot of family members and loved ones reaching out asking us how we were doing, what was going on, especially once the speaker was pulled from the rostrum and some of the other senior members of leadership on both sides of the aisle were pulled, but i think what sticks out for me was jamie raskin who had just buried his son 24 hours before that day was right in front of me, and jamie and i -- i remember putting a card in his pocket, a condolence letter from my wife and i and -- but just how stoic he looked at what was happening and that he needed help when we were told to get our gas masks ready, i had to give him mine and open up his gas mask and make sure that he, you know, knew how to use it. so those are some of the experiences and some of the things that i remember, but it was a dark day. >> you know, malcolm, you and i we've known each other for quite a while, my friend. we've been through a lot. we were together at the very start of the trump era, and a lot of the predictions you made people at the time thought were outlandish and impossible. i can recall you saying to me this is going to lead to insurrection, where he's going with these grievances that were based in et know nationalism and rage that had to do with the changing nature of america, this was going in a direction that had insurrection potentially at its end, and then when it happened, you and i -- we've texted a lot -- it was sort of like you didn't want to say i told you but this is where you saw it going for a long time. i want to play for you our wonderful producers put together a quick montage. this isn't the way trump wants to be seen today, but this is the way he's going to be seen today. take a look. >> in many cases they're waving the american flag, and they love our country. some of them went in and they're hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know. they have great relationships. the crowd was unbelievable, and i mentioned the word love. the love -- the love in the air, i've never seen anything like it. >> the people were very angry. because it's common sense. it's common sense. if you know a vote is fraudulent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? treason! treason! >> we love you. you're very special. you've seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. i know how you feel. [ chanting ] stop the steal! stop the steal! >> malcolm, my friend, in your experience and with your expertise was this any different from any other push or attempted coup that you have, you know, observed or studied around the world? >> you know, i've spent over three decades watching all the third world dictators, war lords, ptentates carry out activities like this. this is not people power. this was an attempt to overthrow the government of the united states. let me tell you, i get a little caught up when i watch videos like that. i'm from philadelphia. i was born and raised under the liberty bell and independence hall. i am deeply offended by this. i spent my entire life defending this nation against people that would do harm. my family has served every day since april 1864 to defend this country, and we had a president of the united states as we're finding out now, engineer a coup d'etat. it wasn't spontaneous. it was very well-planned, and you might recall i was on realtime with bill morrow on november 6th and i said this is going to insurgency. insurgency is worse than insurrection. it is multiple insurrections that is led through a political party that will not use the halls of power to resolve incidents. they will use the halls of power to stoke violence, and here we are. >> yeah, indeed. let me play a little more of president biden for you, stuart, this was actually an important speech for him. this was a speech that for many felt like it was one -- you know, a little bit too late. it should have been done earlier, let's just be honest, but he laid waste to the claims of people who support the former president. he didn't name him, but he slammed him in a very important and i think an historically important way. here he is talking about the mob and what the president of the united states failed to do that day. here's president biden. >> we saw with our own eyes rioters menace these halls, threatening the life of the speaker of the house, literally erecting gallows to hang the vice president of the united states of america. what did we not see? we didn't see a former president who had just rallied the mob to attack sitting in a private dining room off the oval office in the white house watching it all on television and doing nothing for hours. >> stuart, i cannot imagine another president -- and we've had some venal ones. we've had andrew johnson and some really rotten presidents. i can't imagine any of the other sitting back and watching our capitol be ransacked. your thoughts? >> well, first, i've always wanted to have this opportunity to thanks mr. nance to our service to the country we're a lot safer with the work he's done over these decades and we need that sort of service and expertise for what's happening to america is just extraordinary. you know, what struck me about the president's speech today was really most of what he was saying about donald trump is true of the republican party. i mean, there was a brief moment there, you can almost hold your breath for it, while the republican party rallied around and called this out, and then they went back. this ultimately isn't about donald trump. if for every elected official, most of the elected officials in congress or republicans stood up and called donald trump out and said he was a liar, that he had attempted to over -- this wouldn't be happening. so what we've ended up with now is a major part of the united states doesn't believe we live in a democracy, and where that ends, people like mr. nance would know a lot better than i, but it's not good. >> let me play for a second, this is from our producers. this is how republicans sounded immediately after the attack that they also and their staffs also endured. take a listen. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. >> all i can say is count me out, enough is enough. >> there's no question, done, that president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. >> and congressman aguilar, i'm going to put you in the awkward position of responding to that. i know they are in the other body, the united states senate. but as an elected official, someone who serves the people, someone who like all of those people we just saw is paid by the american taxpayer to defend us and defend our democracy, what do you think when you hear people who are elected just as you were elected, and some of whom were elected in the same election with donald trump and who don't question their own elections, when you hear people from the republican party talk like that about an election they know was legitimate, i don't know how that strikes you, if you could just tell us. >> it's wild. that's how it strikes me, and i think you hit it right. they talk about ballots and integrity, but those are the same ballots that elected them. but i think what's more important now is just the deafening silence from house republican leadership when it comes to today, the january 6th anniversary. it's cricket, you don't hear anything from them. as you mentioned at the top, you have congresswoman cheney, the vice chair of our committee there with the vice president but they would choose not to. other house republicans would choose just to avoid the conversation rather than committing to democracy, which is what we should do. >> yeah, how much trouble are we -- i mean, i think we're in a lot of trouble. we don't have much more time, but unfortunately we'll just have to continue this conversation on another day. i want to thank, pete aguilar, malcolm nance, stewart stevens. remember this video of congresswoman pramila jayapal as the maga mall forced their way into the chamber. she joins me to talk about what and their staff members endured. plus sher lynn ie fold and e britain kennedy join me live, the questions it raises about race, privilege, and national security. stay with us. ivilege, and natio security stay with us ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? 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sound i ever heard and i will never forget. >> i called my wife and, you know, it wasn't until i heard her voice that i thought, wow, you know, this is one of those calls. >> we all were wondering if we would die in that moment. i was 15 feet at most from the front of that gallery to the door. >> so this is a moment where we as a senate can thank officer goodman for his bravery in protecting the senate, protecting the capitol, protecting our democracy. >> when you came down this hall? >> no, i did not. we were very fortunate indeed that officer goodman was there to get me in the right direction. >> joining me now are three democratic representatives who were all present during the insurrection, pramila jay pall of washington, ruben gallego of arizona, and ayanna pressley of massachusetts. thank you all for being here. i want to start with you, congresswoman jayapal. you actually had gone through knee replacement surgery just weeks before, a couple of weeks before this insurrection, so you were not actually, you know, necessarily physically capable of running had you needed to run. i've heard this story of you having to rely on congresswoman mikie sherrill just to get you out of there. talk about your experience that day and what you remember. >> well, joy, that's right. i had had knee replacement surgery five weeks before, and when everything -- when we started to hear about the mobs outside, my husband actually texted me and said i think you should come back to the office. and you know, i couldn't because i didn't know if i could make it back to the office walking, but i also thought that that was the safest place i could be was in the capitol with the speaker, and that's what i texted him back. and when we realized that we had to -- we were being told to get from the democratic side to the republican side, we had to crawl under banisters, and i actually went back up there this morning for the first time since that happened. i wasn't able to go back to the gallery. i just couldn't do it until today, and i realized how many banisters we had to crawl under, and i had a cane five weeks out. i couldn't really walk, and when i -- that picture that you're seeing up on the screen right now, i had to stretch my leg out to the right because i couldn't bend it, and i actually rolled from the seat onto the floor because it was the only way i could get down onto the floor, and, you know, was thinking about what do i do if these insurrectionists make it in. jamie was right, we could hear that pounding on the door, and we were just so close to the doors. there was no furniture to barricade the doors either like there was down on the main floor, and so i got my gas mask in one hand and my cane in the other and i thought, well, i'll just hit them with my gas mask and hit them with my cane to try to get out of there. all of that, joy, is -- you know, is about the trauma of that day, but it continues because this is clear and present danger that we're still in. this is not a situation where the day happened and it was done. we're still in the middle of the fight. >> yeah, absolutely. and i know that you also wound up being sort of locked down with some republican members, and wound up testing positive for covid because they didn't take seriously the covid precautions that day either. so there were like multiple threats that you all are to face including threats to your health. and you know, congressman guy yay goe, you're a marine. my brother was national guard, i know you marines, you all are special, right, and you guys definitely held a special place in the lore of american military history. that really kind of put you in a position of leadership on that day. people were looking to you. my understanding is you and representative swalwell were the last to leave the floor. i think people were looking to you because you had that experience. talk about your experience that day and what you felt responsible to try to do. >> well, you know, really what put me in the mode i would say is there was a young staffer on the floor, and i looked at her, and she was just absolutely scared, petrified, and it reminded me of actually being in war and seeing other young men, especially when we first hit contact, seeing that look, and the way that you survive these type of situations is by actually having very clear leadership, and so that's when i started, you know, giving people instructions about how to put on their gas mask, giving instructions up to the gallery about where they should move and when they should move, and even unfortunately talking to some members of congress about preparing them in case we have to fight. and part of, unfortunately, being able to win in war and battle is actually making sure that you're in the mind-set that you have to fight, that this is actually happening, and a lot of times people cocoon themselves to protect themselves from the emotional trauma of it, andi was trying to basically break them out. one of the reasons i was the last person to leave is i was worried that somebody was scared or in the corner somewhere hiding. look, i've seen that happen in combat. i saw 64 marine, country boy cocoon himself in the middle of combat. it could easily happen to any civilian. i didn't want to leave that floor until i knew everybody was out. that's why swalwell and i stuck around to make sure we checked every, you know, every row before we left the floor. >> yeah, well, god bless you for doing that, and congresswoman pressley, when this thing happened, there were so many thoughts that went through so many of our minds: i really did think of those of you identified as the squad. because if there were targets, specific targets that people who don't follow politics every day would be focused on, the squad, you know, the speaker, you know, you all were in that group of people that were really especially targeted. i will never forget about the story about your panic button not working when you needed it. first of all, do you know now why it didn't work? and please tell us about your experience and how you sort of got through it. i know your husband also was part of that experience and wound up dealing with covid afterwards as well. >> sure. i think it's really important that we not whitewash what spurred and perpetuated this big lie ultimately resulting in this insurrection, and that is white supremacy. when you talk about the -- perhaps the heightened vulnerability that i might have had having been in the sight line of the occupant of the white house, this pied piper of hate, this insurrectionist in chief as it were, you know, that has everything to do with a white supremacist violent mob backlash to historic record voter turnout that was driven by record numbers of black and brown voters. so i think it's really important that we not have selective amnesia about this big lie, this attempt to undermine free and fair elections, to challenge the integrity of our ballots. the host for that lie was white supremacist backlash, and it's important that we not have selective amnesia about that, and it is important that we sit with the trauma and the terror of that day and to reference what my colleague said, recognize white supremacy is a clear and present threat to the lives of every person who calls this country home and to our democracy, and there must be accountability. that is why we need full and thorough investigations. anyone who was complicit or aided and abetted in this, including members of congress must be expelled. there must be accountability, and that includes, again, starting with the origin of this insurrection and what led to the perpetuating of this big lie, restoring voting rights. this is about so much more than securing the capitol. this is about securing our democracy. >> and do you ever -- did you ever find out why the things that were supposed to save you in that moment weren't working? do we know anything more about that, congresswoman pressley? >> it's an open investigation, so there's really not much that i can say about that other than this, that ultimately democracy won the battle on january 6th, but the war is still being waged against democracy. >> yeah. >> and white supremacy is a clear and present danger and threat. it must be rooted out, and there must be accountability in order for there to be healing from these traumatic events. and i would like to instead reserve space for people who i think were the true patriots in this moment like those black custodians who were cleaning up the mess left behind of this white -- violent white supremacist mob. >> we are out of time, but congresswoman jayapal, you have created support groups. your caucus looks like this panel, and i want everybody in this country to look at this panel, ruben gallego, ayanna pressley, pramila jayapal, that is the nomenclature of the future of america and there were people who were enraged by that and enraged by the fact that that was advanced in the election in georgia. can you very quickly talk about how you all are supporting each other? there's a reason we wanted you all to be together, because you all have held together to support each other in the wake of that hell. >> well, it has been, i thin when you go through this kind of a shared experience and as a person of color, which all three of us clearly are in our progressive caucus, as all races represented in the progressive caucus, the reality is we have been seeing and feeling exactly what ayanna's been describing for many years now and don't forget, the stop the steal goes back to the 2016 election. >> yes. >> i think this is the moment where we stand together. we say this is who we are, america. >> yes, yes. >> and this is what we bring to the table, and we will fight together for the kind of america that respects that diversity and actually embraces it and invite it is. >> congresswoman. it's not sunday, but you can get an amen. you all screen shot this screen right now. this is america. if you don't like it, feel free to move. because this is where we're going. representative pramila jayapal, ruben gallego, ayanna pressley, you are the future, and i respect you all so deeply. thank you all for being here this evening. up next, sherrilyn ifill, we just keep on going. we have such amazing guests tonight. sherrilyn ifill herself joins me next to discuss the big lie's corrosive effect on voting rights and what's being done to combat it. we will be right back. mbat it. we will be right back. et to gres having healthy gums. crest advanced gum restore. detoxifies below the gumline... and restores by helping heal gums in as little as 7 days. crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america. ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card. here in this very building a decision will be made about whether we uphold the right to vote and ensure free and fair elections. let's be clear, we must pass voting the rights bills that are now before the senate, and the american people must also do something more. we cannot sit on the sidelines. we must unite in defense of our democracy. >> the big lie behind the insurrection one year ago today has been weaponized by republican state legislatures into new voter suppression laws and those laws are designed to disenfranchise the mostly black, brown, and aapi voters who delivered to president biden the election victory that the mob tried to overturn. last year 19 states passed 34 laws restricting access to voting according to the brennan center for justice, and dozens more bills will carry over into this year. as vice president harris noted, congress has the power to stop this slow motion assault on our democracy right now with the two bills awaiting senate votes, the freedom to vote act and the john lewis voting rights advancement act. i'm joined now by sherrilyn ifill, president and director council of the naacp legal defense fund. you know, i consider you a friend and i also follow you on twitter. i have a bit of your twitter stand, and you tweeted what i considered to be a must read thread about this sort of false dichotomy that's being drawn, that republicans understandably they don't want to own january 6th, and so a lot of conservatives are trying to say, wait, wait, wait, let's try to say that we don't need a wholesale six to voting access. we can do little tweaks, and we can fix it at the small ends, we can fix the electoral college act and other such things and that should be enough, and then we're all square. explain to us why that would not be enough. >> thank you so much, joy. i'm happy to be here today. so i want to just emphasize two things. first of all, trump did not start voter suppression. voter suppression has been going on for as long as, you know, we've been here, and certainly since the supreme court shelby county versus holder decision in 2013, those of us who are civil rights lawyers have been sounding the alarm that states have been trying to suppress the votes of black and brown people now freed from restrictions of section 5 of the voting rights act, and we've been talking about the need for legislation that will fix the voting rights act in order to support our efforts to try to president-elect black and brown and asian american and native american voters. trump did not create it. this was already in existence in texas, in florida, in a variety of states and the lie about voter fraud has been around for 20 years perpetrated often by the republican party most of the time suggesting that there is substantial voter fraud. this has been going on for decades. what trump did was pick up the tools that the party had already been using and weaponized them accelerated by the white supremacy that representative ayanna pressley talked about in your last hit. so now we come to this point where our democracy is in peril and where the fact that our democracy was in peril in 2020 did not stop black and brown voters and asian american and native american voters from coming out in record numbers, which is why the 2020 presidential election was the election with the highest vote turnout ever in the history of this country. not since 1900 because in 1900 black people couldn't vote and women couldn't vote. ever in the history of this country. not only did 5 million black people turn out to vote in november 2020 in georgia, 4.5 million of that 5 million showed up for the special election on january 5th, which is why you can't talk about january 6th without talking about january 5th because january 5th showed once again that this power was a transformative power. it didn't just elect joe biden by this incredible margin, it also resulted in the election of the first black senator from georgia since reconstruction and only the second jewish statewide officer in the state of georgia and of course delivered to the democrats the power over the senate. you have to put all of that in context. then what we saw as you point out in 2021 was a series of state election laws designed to make sure that that resilience and determination that minority voters showed in 2020 standing in line in fulton county for nine hours to vote in the primary, standing in line for seven hours in harris county, standing in line during a pandemic, during the height of the pandemic in the milwaukee primary, facing off voter intimidation, facing off restrictions on absentee voting. all of that, their job that they decided was to make sure that could never happen again. and beginning with georgia and its voter suppression law in march, it has been off to the races. ldf is litigating in georgia, we're litigating in texas, we're litigating in florida, but there are many other states as well, and then on top of that, the supreme court issued a decision this summer in the bernovich case that weakens section 2 of the voting rights act. what we have now have is the perfect storm, and if we are going to survive as a democracy, we must have voting legislation to fix the voting rights act but also to provide access to the polls to ensure that some of the innovations that were used last year during the pandemic, the expanded use of drop boxes and absentee voting, that that will continue for voters. that's what they're trying to choke off. and i hear people talking all the time about 2024 and the electoral count act, and i care about that, too. but the game is 2022. understand that if we don't have changes in 2022, we are facing the potential of a fully unraveled democracy. this is as serious as it gets. we are holding this up because one man, senator manchin, and potentially senator sinema believe that the filibuster, a senate rule, a senate debate rule, is more important at this moment than the rights guaranteed to black voters under the 15th amendment. it was gratifies to hear president biden say several weeks ago this legislation must pass and if the filibuster must go, it must go. president biden and vice president harris are going to be in atlanta next tuesday. i'm looking forward to seeing what they're going to say. they're going to be talking about voting. every person has to understand the stakes of this as you do, joy, as really the states not just about black and brown people, but it's about american democracy itself. >> you know, again, it's not sunday, you're going to get an amen on this. the only thing that matters is whether or not we have access to the vote, and you cannot avoid and escape the fact that antiblackness and this rage against the right of black people to vote and our willingness and our eagerness to exercise that vote is at the heart of this threat to democracy. sherrilyn ifill, you are a national treasure my sister, you truly are. and i'm just blessed and highly favored to be able to access you from time to time. i thank you for being here. thank you for all that you do for our democracy. >> thank you for what you do, joy. i appreciate you. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you. >> still ahead, the traumatic events a year ago today, american divisions into sharp focus, and acclaimed author, we keep bringing it to you, ibram kendi joins me next. don't go anywhere. don't go anywhere. 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(burke) seventeen-car garage you got there? ♪we are farmers♪ ♪bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum♪ as america begins to reunite big oil executives saw a chance to make more money. they hiked up gas prices, right before the holiday season. sky-high gas prices for you meant record profits for them. 174 billion dollars. big oil executives took advantage of a recovering nation. just to make more money. it's time to tell big oil executives that their rigged game is over. america: it's time for clean energy. one year ago today, a violent mob descended onto our capitol. the same day that georgia elected the state's first black senator and first jewish senator. the attack on our capitol was also an attack on those victories. and our refusal of having to accept the will and the votes of black and brown americans. the events of january 6th were certainly anti-democratic. insurrectionists included anti-black extremists. they hurled a torrent of racial slurs at black police officers while displaying potent symbols of racism, hate, and white supremacy, including this particularly gruesome symbol of anti-black terrorism. what was perhaps the most stark display of white supremacy was how the mob was allowed to leave. the vast majority not carted off, not rounded up, not shot at even as they broke through barricades and smashed windows and hunted for the vice president's head, forcing the question what is the insurrections had been black. joining me now, ibram x. kendi, best selling author of how to be an anti-racist. thank you so much for being here. i am so excited to talk with you tonight. i have to tell you, i tweeted this earlier. the image that i cannot get out of my head from the day of the insurrection one year ago today is the image of that man taking a symbol of the confederacy, the confederate flag, the fake confederate flag, not even the real one of the confederate states of whatever they called themselves, into our capitol, something that didn't even happen during the civil war, that image right there disgusts me more than any of the other images, well, actually, most of the images are disgusting, but this one is particularly awful because this was the symbol of a fake nation that went to war against us in order to enslave people who look like you and me, and he brought that symbol inside of our capitol. that didn't even happen during the civil war. i wonder if there are images for you as somebody who writes about anti-racism that struck you in particular on that day. >> joy, i think we're on the same page. it was that image, too, and i just can't get out of my mind what the corner stone of the confederacy was, and alexander stevens, the vice president said it in 1861, that this new nation is based on the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man and slavery subordination to the superior races is natural in normal condition, that is what that flag symbolized and indeed that is what that insurrection symbolized, trying to destroy the multiracial democracy we're seeking to build. >> you know, it's funny because people like myself and others who said this when donald trump was elected that trumpism is racism, used to get pilloried and saying that was hysterical almost to say that, but trumpism is tied with this lore for the confederacy, which trump himself had. you had people there who brought a noose, the symbol of lynching, and wanted to lynch mike pence. they said hang mike pence, they wanted to lynch him because he refused to reverse an election that black and brown people and people of color aapi people, had made a decision, had in the majority voted for joe biden, and they won, and therefore that had to be illegitimate. i remember that during barack obama's tenure, that the election of the president had to be illegitimate because it wasn't possible for black and i possible for black and brown people to make a decision that could stick in american democracy. how worried are you that this concept of a multi racial democracy cannot succeed because we have so many people who fundamentally oppose it? >> i mean, that is sort of the eternal worry but i also think it is important to remember that people are taught and manipulated into opposing it. they are consistently taught by people like trump that a multi racial democracy is somehow antiwhite. that the equality we are trying to build is not going to benefit white people and indeed studies show that what singularly sort of distinguishes trump voters, people who somehow believe that white people are the primary victims of racism even though when you look at racial disparities from wealth to health to education to incarceration, you know, white people are typically on the higher end and black and indigenous people are typically on the lower end. but people still somehow believe that the election was stolen from white people, not the black and brown voters who have to stand in line who it was so hard for them to vote. >> what is so interesting is this maga insurrection has traveled from the capitol to local school boards where people are fighting against teaching of accurate history because they feel it will be offensive to white children and make white children sad. but someone tweeted there were white people who were abolitionists. there were white people who heroically fought against the idea of slavery including lincoln's original vice president who he should have kept on board instead of dumping him for andrew johnson. isn't it interesting that the people who are fighting against the teaching of history and calling it critical race theory and saying you are part of critical race theory which you're not that they don't think their kids will identify with the abolitionists. they think their kids are going to be sad because they'll identify with the oppressors and enslavers. what do you make of that? >> joy, i think you are revealing they don't even know their own history. they don't even know white america's history. if we were to teach about slavery, we would teach about people like wendall philips in boston or william lloyd garrison in boston or so many white people during the civil rights movement some of whom were even killed, you know, during the civil rights movement and that their children would identify with those people. not the slave holders. they would identify with the abolitionists who were white and black who were trying to create a different type of nation. >> they might know who their own personal ancestors are and worry that their children might get more information than they want them to have. let's leave it there. my guest, who is not part of the critical race theory sort of dissertation in the world but is a great and brilliant man, thank you very much, sir, thank you so much for being here. still ahead, president biden and vice president harris are not the only ones sounding the alarm about the ongoing threats to american democracy. breaking down what it is going to take to save it, next on "the reid out." people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible... with rybelsus®. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. wake up to the possibility of lower a1c with rybelsus®. you may pay as little as $10 for up to a 3-month prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ with chase security features, guidance and convenience, banking feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? 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