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how tough the challenge, how high the obstacles, we always overcome. this virus is tough, but we've been ♪♪ ♪♪ >> also this hour, we are looking ahead to the politics of 2022 with control of capitol hill up for grabs and a major focus on the events of january 6th and the former president's role in the violence on that day. >> we have to have peace so go home. we love you. you are very special. you've seen what happens. you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. i know how you feel, but go home and go home in ♪♪ ♪♪ >> we are also following the fallout from devastating colorado wildfires. i'll talk to the boulder mayor about the situation that had people running for their very lives. ♪ >> we staid up all night long just hugging each other, just glad that we have each other and we have our kids. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> and we're going to take a look at the legacy of betty white and the impact that she had on generations of female comedians. daily show co-creator liz winstead will join me later on this hour. we want to start, though, this hour with the omicron surge that forced so many americans to change the way they rang in the new year. as the pandemic enters its third calendar year the new variant has increased concerns about the post-holiday outbreak. just yesterday more than 360,000 new cases were reported nationwide and even that could be an undercount given the holiday weekend. this is coming as the fda is expected to sign off on pfizer booster shots for kids aged 12 to 15. the boosters could be crucial at a time when more children are being admitted to the hospital, a 66% increase in just one week. all of this combined with the muddled efforts to increase testing both in facilities and at home creating a significant problem for the biden administration into 2022. joining me is mike to talk more about this. mike, the president has a lot on his plate in the coming year. but we have to start with, of course, the surge of omicron. two major things here he's dealing with. high case loads across the country, and you have a major testing problem. what are they planning to do to deal with this? >> yeah. yasmin. i think if you were to ask most top biden administration officials, if there was a list of things from 2021 that they wish they could do over or not do at all, i think just about all of them would point to the moment around the fourth of july when the president had a celebration at the white house and said the nation was on the cusp of declaring independence from the virus. obviously, as we start now 2022, we're seeing case counts at an all-time high and this was at the top of the agenda for president biden. that's yet focus at this point on the part of the administration is two points. one is you mentioned t testing. the president laying out a plan to get 500 million take-home tests to americans. we will see a website launched in the next few weeks as an effort to try to help with that. they've also launched these testing sites and we'll see more of them over the next few weeks and the other that the white house is particularly focused on is trying to avoid a further strain not just on our health care system, but american life in general. that was the motivation behind some of the cdc guidelines. they want to make sure people are doing the safe thing and avoiding the disruptions we've seen. the administration is cognizant of the fatigue in the third calendar year. that's why last night you heard the optimism, and as well as the first lady. let's talk about part of that message. >> this virus is tough, but we've been tougher. >> we've seen that in the doctors and nurse e educators, parents and first responders and all front line and essential workers. >> and so, yasmin, the last thing the president did before he left the white house before the holidays was to speak to the nation about covid. he'll return to the white house again this week and it's a focus because we can say it now, yasmin. it's an election year and the administration's handling will determine whether democrats can keep control of congress this year. >> it is an election years, the truest thing. thank you, my friend. happy new year. it's great to see you on this new year's day. >> happy new year. >> meanwhile, as the administration is weighing its options hospitals are fighting a wave of coronavirus cases so severe they're running out of beds. i talked to joseph farone about this and here's what he had to say. >> there are no people around that can take care of these patients and that is a problem. the problem is most patients don't know if they have delta or omicron and they're flooding emergency departments. this will be collateral damage for those people that truly need to go to the e.r., your heart attacks and strokes. >> it is a pain our next guests are all too familiar with. their father dale, a retired iowa school superintendent waited 15 days at a bed that his hospital could not spare because it was so overwhelmed with unvaccinated coronavirus patients. tragically, dale died in late november. nearly one month after he had been diagnosed with sepsis, an indebt victim, his family says of the coronavirus pandemic. joining me now are two of dale's kid, anthony weeks and julia semansky. welcome. i am so incredibly sorry for the loss of your father. how are you guys doing? anthony, i'll start with you. >> it's been a hard time. around the holidays we acutely felt the absence of our father, and i think that we're lucky to have each other, and i think we did get together for the holidays to support each other, but it's definitely been a hard time, and i think that when we think of what might have been, i think that also makes it harder because under any circumstances it's hard to say good-bye to a lovered one, but this has been especially hard. >> julia? how are you doing? >> i -- i agree with anthony, and i guess what's frustrating is the iowa leadership tries to do anything to mitigate the bye rick. our numbers of i and and 81% of thoed are vaccine@ed and the issue cu bah bals what my dad needed and many of those aren't vaccine theed. it teams soon common sense. my dad was a good neighbor. it would te will would do think,y is people should just remember, be good. be kind. >> did you hear this from hospital workers when you were pleading for your dad, that because of these unvaccinated people that there was no room and space for him? >> yes. after my dad had passed we met with a couple of different surgeons at iowa city and one of the surgeons said almost minutes after he passed, your dad needed specialized care, and we were, like, yeah. we know, we've been waiting to get in to get that specialized care and later we talked to the second surgeon and she said that typically in the last -- they would have taken that, but in the last 18 months to years it's made it more and more difficult because the covid people, primarily the unvaccinated have been clogging up the system and so they're unable to get people in. >> anthony, your dad did everything that he should be doing during this pandemic. he was vaccinated and in fact, when he came down with the symptoms that ended up being sepsis, he thought maybe it was symptoms of that booster shot, but it actually turned out to be sepsis. what does it feel like to know that your dad did everything that he was supposed to and yet he wound up in this situation and losing his life and all of you, his family losing their father. >> it's difficult. it's difficult because certainly, we're living still in the midst of a pandemic, but it seems like we're in a pandemic which is a one with employ thee, lack of compassion and wanting to see one ones part of the sliegz. my father said he was vigilant about getting vaccinated and he became vaccinated. at first it was frustration. he wanted to go home. he wanted to be in his own bed. my dad, despite being 78 was a busy person. i think that frustration eventually became desperation. he knew he was sick. he knew he was living with a life-threatening condition and he wasn't able to get the care that he needed. >> julia, what was your dad like? >> my dad was the epitome of a good neighbor. he did things for people that -- you just had to ask him to do something, and he would do it. kind of the classic story i have of him is when i was in grad school i called home, and the line was busy for several hours, and once i finally got him on the phone i said, you know, dad, who was on the phone so long? and he said well, haven't you heard about that baby jessica? i've been on the phone with firemen in texas and we've been talking about how to get that little girl out of the well, and get her some food while she's down there. and that's just who he was. he reached out to help people. he was a good neighbor. he cared about people, yet he was a very humble, humble man. >> anthony, julia, your dad sounds like an amazing, amazing man. i am so incredibly sorry for your loss. we are thankful that you are sharing your message with us and his story today. happy new year's to you both. thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, everybody. we are following a severe weather outbreak across the south and water rescues in kentucky, as well. also ahead, the mayor of boulder, colorado, joining me live to talk about the devastation from the wildfires hitting that state. we'll be right back. it won't raise blood pressure the way that advil® aleve® or motrin® sometimes can. for trusted relief, trust tylenol®. 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what's the situation as you've been seeing, surveying the damage? >> it was terrifying, of course. we've never seen anything like it. people are some shock and looks how they can recover and we're standing by trying to help folks. >> have people been able to get back to their homes or to what was their homes to survey the damage to see if anything is left? >> unfortunately, most folks haven't been able to get back yet. the situation isn't stable or safe. so the emergency crews have generally been keeping folks out while they're making sure that the neighborhoods are safe before people can go back and see exactly the state of their homes. >> when do you expect that to be, mayor? >> i don't think we're sure exactly. i think they're hoping to let folks back in tomorrow, but it's an hour by hour thing seeing how safe things are and when people can come back in. >> and where are folks staying right now? what type of facilities do you have for people that have had to evacuate their homes? do you have enough supplies? food, water? are you getting enough help from the federal government at this point in the recovery? >> yes. we've had an incredible outpouring of support and we're incredibly grateful. the red cross has set up multiple evacuation centers and those have been fully staffed and folks have been staying there. most folks have been able to find friends and family. people are opening their homes and they're donating materials. so far people have what they need. energy is giving out free space heaters for people that have natural gas and heat and there's been an outpouring of support and normally folks are able to get out and find a safe place to stay. >> i know it's a little preemptive to have this conversation, mayor, but i quickly want to ask you, the uc boulder saying anywhere out west with vegetation is a fire risk and we should consider this when rebuilding. this could happen anywhere, as he puts it. what do you make of that dire warning as people begin to look to rebuild from this devastation and what may be in the pipeline because of climate change? >> we're going to have to reassess wildfire risk after this tragic event. these were neighborhoods that no one expected to burn in the wildfire. they're not on the edge of the mountain and they're not in the forests and these are urban, suburban communities that everyone assumed were safe. so we'll have to look at this very carefully and think about how we plan things differently going forward, but the new normal is very dangerous. >> mayor, aaron brocket of boulder, colorado. our thoughts are certainly with your community right now on this new year's day, thank you for joining us. i know you're incredibly busy. >> the battle over the build back better bill isn't over yet. the congresswoman gwen moore joins me next, and about comments she made that democrats don't value hard work. she will respond next. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! 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because we know at this point the $1.75 price tag may want get over the finish line considering where senator manchin currently is and the stalemate now that the white house is at with the legislation they want to get across the finish line along with so many democrats in washington? what are the priorities to stay in this bill if this thing has to get reduced? >> well, that's very difficult to give me these faustan choices. the thing that has been so transformational has been the child tax credit. we cannot doubt and it gives me shivers to think back on the many times that my children and grandchildren and other people i have known have been at risk because they haven't had adequate child -- affordable child care. the numbers of women when can't participate in the workforce and certainly, we don't want to become a third-class country and not providing pre-k are some of the other initiatives in the build back better. joe manchin needs to be reminded of his values and why he is a democrat, and you know, there's nobody that will benefit more than the poor families in west virginia from the build back better initiative, and so i do think that president biden is not ready to just throw anybody under the bus, but i do think that the american people can rise up at this point and weigh in and let the president know what their priorities are. i know there are so many things that matter to people. yeah. ? so i know that you're speaking also from a point of personal experience, considering what you have been through yourself, and i want to play some sound that has gotten a lot of traction from conservatives, talking about the so-called as you put it, the dignity of work. let's take a listen to what you had to say and then we'll talk on the other side. >> i just want to close before my time is up to talk about the so-called dignity of work. it's like hearing a fingernail on a chalkboard. that's the same kind of rhetoric they've always used to describe the situation of welfare recipients. you're supposed to just go to work, take any old kind of job even if you have no child care. you don't have a livable wage. you can't afford transportation to the school and no family leave. no time off. >> so because of this, you've got betsy the former new york governor to call it welfare recipients moochers. i want to give you an opportunity to talk to me and talk to our viewers about what you meant there, about your own experiences. what contributed to you wanting to make clear that statement? >> let me start out by complimenting myself on that statement. i meant every single word of it. you know, of course, there's a dignitily in work. i'm sure you feel very dignified in your job. i feel dignified in my be jo, and people who clean people's behinds in the nursing home, clean up their vomit feel dignity, too, and they ought to be paid a decent wage for this dignified work and not be told that they should take any old kind of job, not enough money as reverend jackson would say to afford health care for themselves if they were to get sick. not be able to feed their children. you know, it costs money to go to work. you have to have your hair done. you have to have a shave and a haircut. you know, it costs $2 to get a starbucks on your way to work, and to say that the dignity of work is simply by being able to say oh, i've got a job and not considering any kinds of work supports or decent salary is an insult. it's a way of maintaining and keeping especially women, and single women at the bottom of the economic barrel. you know, to say you ought to just be glad to have any old kind of job and be glad if we're paying you $2.18 to be a waitress and then supplementing it with tips. you should just be glad to have a job. the rest of us feel dignified because we're making six figure, but you go and do the dirty work in society and just shut up and be glad and dare you make one dime above $13 an hour, we're going to take away your child care. we're going to take away your food stamps and take away your healthcare. there's no dignity in being a slave. >> and if you talk about the cost of child care in this country, you are making barely minimum wage. maybe you have two kids at home. how does that add up even taking care of those kids even while at work. >> representative gwen moore, thank you for that impassioned moment with us. we appreciate it on this new year's day. thank you. >> got to go see about my black eyed peas now. 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[ laughter ] so i don't know what this show's excuse is. >> 2021 ended with the passing of a hollywood icon and a national treasure. betty white died yesterday at the age of 99, just weeks shy of her 100th birthday, a fixture on american television for more than 70 years. white's legendary career included iconic roles in the mary tyler moore show and "the golden girls" and consisted of 29 primetime emmy nominations with five wins. as you saw in the clip she just played, she bagged the title of oldest "saturday night live" host in 2010 at the age of 88. joining me to talk about betty's amazing life and the impact on the generation of female comedians. co-creator of "the daily show." what an incredible loss yesterday when we heard of betty white's passing. i don't think anybody expected it, in spite of the fact that she was 99 years old because you thought betty white would live forever. she had so many iterations and so many rebirths of her career. what was her influence on you? >> i mean, for me there was so much. i mean, i am born and raised in minnesota, first off, so to have her character sue ann nevins set in minneapolis and her character from st. olaf, minnesota. all of the characters she played were these powerful, single women who had a lot of ownership and a lot of people don't think of it that way and when you look at sue ann nevins and i encourage everybody to re-watch "the mary tyler moore show" because when we talk about "the daily show" or satirizing news and i'm sue ann nevins and who the hell did this? that inspired so much satire and parody. it is so rare in the history of showbiz that there is a single human that is embraced cross-generationally and cross-culturally and she could do anything, and her competence made her a person everyone loved. i was talking to your colleague katie toure and i said she's a lesson in how to be a human. be like betty. #justdoit. >> what can we take from that? what lessons can we glean from betty white? we need those lessons in 2022. >> the lessons from betty white, constantly explore who you are. figure out what brings you joy and how you can bring others joy, and dive into those things and do them because the more that you do that the more that you're going to open yourself up to people. you know, i often say in this time that we're living in that's just rife with hatred and animosity, the thing about betty white is if you can make someone laugh, that means they have a visceral reaction to you that's positive, and it's very hard to dislike someone who brought you unbridled joy. and so i often say if you're laughing you still have hope, and i think that going back and watching all of the work of betty white, and also for real, celebrating the women who have -- she's inspired and celebrating women who have longevity in their careers, you know? i'm grateful that you had me on. i'm 60. i'm not 30. you know, i'm someone living my truth and my humor as well and celebrating the relevance of women when are bringing increddin experience and humor and keep doing it. those are things that are important. let's not just celebrate betty white and let's celebrate the women who keep going and keep reinventing themselves and let them be an example and let's just take it in and roll with it. >> i love that. celebrating truth and women and what they stand for and humor. i mean, it really does encapsulate who bedi white was, and we do not discriminate here. of course we'll have you on over and over and over again. >> i love it. also, yasmin, i have to say i am so excited to be on your show, too, because i watch you every weekend, and my heart broke for you when you told the story of your pup passing, and i'm a big dog person, too, and betty white was a massive dog person. so i love being able to talk to people in news about betty white because "the mary tyler moore," and satirizing news and these are good conversations to have with each other. it's kind of like we're just having conversations in front of the world. >> yeah. >> i know! i know! if only we had a cocktail to go along with it. >> liz winstead. >> ma'am, i have been drinking mimosas for betty white. thank you so much. >> thank you, liz. we'll be right back, everybody. adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge tremfyant® with tremfya®... ask you doctor about tremfya® today. >> all right. my headscratcher of the week. for most of us this is a time for wishing peace on earth, good will for others and all of that good holiday stuff. not for republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, greene going ballistic as a simple misspelled message wishing people a happy kwanzaa. stop. it's a fake religion. people are tired of pandering and b.s. >> in a futile effort to educate greene, it's not a religion. it was established in 1966 as a way for black people to honor their shared african roots. so far republicans have not responded to greene on twitter, including one that former president donald trump sent during his time in office. my high-five of the week goes to amy schneider, the jeopardy contestant who just keeps winning and making history. she's won 23 straight games this week, making her the winningest woman in the world's history both in number of wins and on the money list. her take of $855,000 puts her fifth on the all-time list. schneider is also the first trans contestant to qualify for the tournament of champions. no matter what happens there she has my high five of the week to fall back on. we'll be right back. i think most adults will start realizing that they don't recall things as quickly as they used to or they don't remember things as vividly as they once did. i've been taking prevagen for about three years now. people say to me periodically, "man, you've got a memory like an elephant." it's really, really helped me tremendously. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. ♪ ♪ 'tis the season to break tradition in a cadillac. don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪ tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid.rt celebrating today. can it one up whatever they're doing? 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"the daily beast" created a look ahead to politics in 2022, saying, quote, the crazy isn't over yet. so what are the top issues our political climate faces this year? the first is the omicron surge, or as the "daily beast" puts it, a fresh episode of pandemic hell. it is still the biden administration's top challenge as they race to meet testing needs and combat misinformation over the vaccine. the second is the economy and concerns over inflation. economists say this could be a year of growth, but the rising gas prices and supply chain issues are currently halting democrats' efforts to pass the bbb act. third, as we head into the midterms, control in washington. being decided and defined by politically divided issues like abortion rights, voting rights, and redistricting, leaving large uncertainties ahead. fourth, one of the most unpredictable figures, former president donald trump, will he run again? what will his influence be in congressional races? we know the gop is still trump's party right now, but could the tides turn? and lastly, possible concrete answers to the january 6th insurrection spurred by the former president. a clear focus could put trump and his allies in legal danger and show exactly how close they were to subverting democracy. i want to bring in my panel, david jolly, former member of congress, national chair of the serve america movement and an msnbc political contributor. and donna edwards, former democratic congresswoman from maryland, contributing columnist at the "washington post," also an msnbc analyst. welcome to you both, guys. and happy new year to the both of you. i appreciate you joining me on this holiday weekend. david, let me start with you on this one, and talk to us first about the results from the january 6th investigation, the committee now moving into its public phase this year, likely hearing testimony that we were not able to hear before. what are you expecting to gain from this public phase and learn as to what happened in the lead-up to january 6th? >> i think what the january 6th committee will demonstrate very publicly, which is different than the department of justice investigation, is that there was a conspiracy of actors between the white house, the congress, sitting legislators and donald trump's political arm to finance and orchestrate the events of january 6th, and i think the question for the country, then, yasmin, and you can draw a thread all the way then to the midterm elections, is do voters care that our democracy was almost cut off at the knees? that our republic was almost toppled? is that an issue that is strong enough to inform voters in the midterms? i don't know. i think that's an open question for us in 2022. >> donna edwards, do you think they care? >> well, i'm not sure. i mean, i think that it's really important to get through to the -- through the investigation and through these public hearings, because whether the public cares or not today, history will care tomorrow, and i think that that is really an important marker. you know, i got a lot of emojis, yasmin, with 2021 in the dumpster heap, but i think 2022 is going to be a doozy, starting with the public hearings but moving on to possibly passing build back better, and i think it will, and then on to the midterms. this is really going to be quite an emotional year from start to finish. >> so, let's talk about getting build back better passed. i was actually just speaking about this, obviously, a little bit earlier. but this is a major thing, david jolly, for the biden administration. they're banking on this. they have been banking on this type of legislation to get it across the finish line not only for the american people, as they put it, but also because of the midterms, which at this point are inside the same year. you've got that. you've got the results of the january 6th investigation and so much more. do you expect biden to be able to get this over the finish line? >> not as we know it, no, but i think there's an opportunity. so many provisions in that bill are highly popular that you could actually pull them out and perhaps even message more successfully politically as democrats. take, for instance, universal pre-k. if you were to pass that and message that, then voters know that about democrats and that draws the contrast from one party that cares for working families to the other that doesn't. and i think there's plenty within the bill democrats can still pass, but i think bbb is probably dead. >> so, do you see this, donna edwards, as being the strategy going forward? have you been talking to any of your former colleagues about this when it comes to build back better, to pass this thing in piecemeal, as david jolly is suggesting? >> well, i do think it's actually possible. you have a more unified group of democrats around a narrowly focused piece of legislation. but whether they pass it separately or in a package, democrats are going to have to take elements of it and run on those elements across the country in every single congressional district and state. and i don't think that's going to be a problem. but they do have to get it done early in order to be able to use it as the galvanizing mechanism that i think that they have going into the midterm elections. voters feel really strongly about each of the elements as david pointed out, and so it really doesn't matter whether it's together or separate for democrats to get it over the finish line. >> i want to get two more questions in before we have to wrap up here. donna edwards, a lot of folks i have been speaking to feel all but assured that the republicans are going to gain back control of congress. where do you sit on this? >> i don't agree with that. i think, one, there's still a lot of time on the calendar. as we've talked about, if democrats are able to get some of these key initiatives, including voting rights, across the finish line, that gives them a lot of motivation for their base. and frankly, republicans, if they spend their time nominating people who are on the way extreme, there's not a likelihood that they're going to win in those seats. >> david jolly, i want to end on this, and that is the trump factor, right, this question of whether or not donald trump is going to be running for re-election in 2024. do you think he's going to be using endorsements, getting out on the road for the midterms as a way to judge as to whether or not he still has voting power? >> oh, i think so. and i think that's being affirmed. i also think he's putting people in place in state capitals around the country should he run again and need republican states to help hand him the electoral college. the other question, though, yasmin, is, what about the also runs? what about desantis and nome and hailey? because somebody's got to say, i'm running whether trump is in or not. i think 2022 will shine some light on that. >> former members of congress david jolly, donna edwards, thank you to you both and happy new year again. that wraupz up the year for me, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back here tomorrow, 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues right now. welcome to the nbc news now special goodbye 2021, a year to remember and forget. i'm joe fryer. >> and i'm savannah sellers. the biggest moments, wildest headlines, and head-turning events. >> the year started with a lot of hope for new beginnings as covid vaccines became wildly available. but 12 months later, covid continues to impact us. we're going to get an expert take on how the pandemic may evolve in 2022. >> and there's certainly no shortage of news to talk about from the january 6th

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