lie. now, the national spotlight is on voter suppression tactics, and voting rights activists such as stacey abrams are running for state office. last year we were at the height of the pandemic, and although the first vaccine had just been administered, it would be months until it was available to everyone. now, hopefully hospitalizations and ventilators won't become a reality for most of us because now we're all boosted, right? so, as we reflect on 2021 and look into the crystal ball of 2022, i'm going to be my optimistic self and see the glass as half full. joining me now for some inspiration this sunday, dr. barry c. black, 62nd chaplain of the united states senate, and bishop michael curry, presiding bishop of the episcopal church. gentlemen, welcome to "the sunday show." please forgive my attire this day after christmas. but i really thank you both for coming back to "the sunday show." chaplain black, let me start with you. like i said, this is the day after christmas. and christmas time the holidays are tough and can be tough for a lot of people and certainly over the year that we have had it has been tough. words of inspiration for people getting up this sunday morning. >> well, i would say to people, remember the reason for the season. and to me, the most important christmas gift that i have received is not the bow ties i often get, the clip ones that you try to avoid, but the nip it in the bud bow tie, but i get the realization that god cared so much for humanity that he came on a mission to extricate us from a predicament of certain destruction. and i love that. i love feeling special and feeling important. the pivotal moment in my life, jonathan, came when my mother gave me a nickel for memorizing 1 peter 1:18 saying, we are redeemed not with perishable things such as silver and gold, but with the blood of jesus christ. and i tell you, that makes christmas special. it makes me want to shout. i sing christmas carols in july. that's how much i love christmas. and if you can't get inebriated with joy from the realization that the transcendent entered our murky world, there is nothing i can do to help you. >> bishop curry, i think i heard you chuckling there in the background. your words of inspiration for people this sunday morning. >> i can hardly do better than my brother chaplain black. he got inebriated with the spirit. i love that one. but i got to tell you, he's so right. if you think back on the first christmas, even in the -- in the gospels themselves, in matthew's version in the coming of jesus christ into the world, it was a miracle that happened in the middle of a mess. on the one hand, you had joseph struggling to believe the miracle that god was coming into the world through his -- his espoused wife. yet to be his wife. and yet he eventually accepted the miracle, but at first he thought it was a mess, that this was god coming into the world, and it was coming in god's way, not the human way. but more than that, if you look at the story in matthew, there is a king named herrod sitting on the throne in the area where jesus was born, this king heard rumors there was a child king, a child messiah to be born and he set out on a process of destroying this child for as he thought he was a rival to the throne and the bible says he killed hebrew jewish baby boys in a mad genocidal attempt. jesus was born in the midst of a human mess, of the powers of the world, seeking to thwart the way of god's love and god's light in the world and jesus was born anyway. that gives me hope. that's where our faith is grounded. not just in the happy stuff. but grounded in the reality that we have got a god who knows how to deal with trouble, and knows how to take a mess and working with us can make a miracle out of that mess. that's what christmas is about. and that's why i want to join the angel choir and sing gloria in excelsio deo. >> even though this is the day after christmas and this is sunday morning, there might be a lot of viewers out there for whom christianity is not their -- is not the religion that they practice. there are also folks who might not be a part of organized religion, but are spiritual. and then there might be people out there who are atheists. given we have been through covid, we still are dealing with the after effects of the insurrection at the capitol. and folks feeling anxious about the state of our democracy and whether we're going to be able to keep it as a result of a whole bunch of laws that are being passed or in the case of voting rights not being passed as of yet. what can you say to those folks to at a minimum keep their hope alive that things will get better and that the country will hang together? chaplain black? >> well, i would say whether you are a christian or a buddhist or hindu, whatever your religious tradition may be, nearly every religious tradition that has a sacred literature teaches the efficacy of prayer. i believe tennison was right when he said more things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of. and i really believe that regardless of your faith, if you call on the transcendent, you are going to seeing some happen. i believe that that is one of the ways to move the arm of the transcendent. now if you are an atheist, i would tell you to probably embrace some of the philosophies of the greco roman stoics, and the foundation of stoicism is know what you can control, and know what you can't control. you can't control external forces that come against you. but you can control your response to those external forces. and i've got to slip it in, i know we're talking to a diverse group of people and their perspectives, but calvary, i know that word disturbs some folks, calvary is an example of overwhelming external forces coming at someone, and when the smoke clears, it was show time for the one who was supposed to be executed. put in the zoom, he said, it is my time now. father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. so we choose how we're going to respond, jonathan. don't get me happy again. i started getting happy when the bishop used alliteration, miracle in the midst. but we, regardless of our philosophical or religious proclivities, we determine how we're going to respond. and that is what victor franco was talking about in his man in search of meaning. the father of local therapy. he said regarding the nazis and he said you can -- you can kill me, but you can't harm me. i determine how i respond. i got to back off, jonathan. it is getting too much for me right in here. >> i was going to say, also, because we are so over time, i wish, bishop curry, you have to blame chaplain black for me not being able to ask you a final question. bishop michael curry, thank you for coming back to "the sunday show." dr. barry black, thank you for coming back to "the sunday show." coming up, what was the biggest story of 2021? 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>> jonathan, we got the biggest story of the year, six days in to 2021. the insurrection. and for me it is twofold. it is the depth and the planning involved on the part of elected officials and members of trump's cabinet. it is so much worse than a lot of people imagined. and we can't even get our heads around what we still don't know. that was a power point, you know, this is a multipronged efforts of many republicans brainstorming how to overturn an election and cheat 81 million voters. if other nations did that, the u.s. would be talking about imposing sanctions. we knew this was well planned. no tourist brings home a noose to d.c. for a sight-seeing trip. the insurrection didn't end when the perpetrators left the capitol. the insurrection wasn't stopped. the rebellion wasn't crushed. it moved to republican legislations in numerous states where restrictive voting acts are being enacted and it moved from school boards, it continues to go on. and i think something we also can't forget is the long stench of the insurrection. half the republicans still believe the big lie. a third of republicans believe violence is necessary to achieve their political means. so for me, there is no other story and the year that has so many big stories can come close to the insurrection. >> tara setmire, for you, biggest story of 2021. >> i agree with renee. we have never seen anything like this in our country's history and we literally saw within minutes the peaceful transition of power, the 250 reign of our democracy on the brink. if it wasn't for the heroic efforts of officer goodman, we have no idea how much more tragic that day could have been as far as, you know, with him directing the crowd in a different direction, protecting the vice president, mitt romney. what we saw that day, how our police officers there were overrun, how, you know, no one -- a woman lost her life trying to break into the speaker's lobby. what we saw that day was so harrowing. we saw a rebel flag of the confederacy being flown inside our capitol. we didn't even see that during the civil war. i agree with renee, we cannot ignore the significance of what happened that day, and for me, i look at it as a former republican, someone who spent 27 years of my adult life in the republican party, i look at that and think how could the republican party not repudiate it. how could they not finally say enough is enough after something like that? and yet they did not. they continued to embrace donald trump. and the malignancy of trumpism. it was a practice run. and we're looking at the consequences that need to come from this, so i look at the january 6th commission and i'm glad to see them moving along and, you know, things are starting to get done here. we really need to see significant consequences for what happened, and for democrats even on the state level, renee mentioned this, it didn't end there, because we see what is happening now at the state and local levels. what the republicans are doing is they're laying the predicate for people to not believe in the integrity of our elections, so that when the next time this comes around, then what happens? so that is the biggest story is not only what happened that day, but also the way in which a major party in this country decided to embrace the authoritarian and ill liberalism of what brought that to the forefront instead of walking away from it. that's such a danger to our democracy moving forward. >> john, for you, is it january 6th? >> yeah. i was there. and i was in the capitol that day and, i mean, i agree with everything my colleagues said, and i will say a couple of things, one, i was -- i was in the rotunda, the big round part of the capitol, when i was the only reporter there at one point when they're trying to break in the east capitol doors and i saw capitol police running around with machine guns and they made a decision not to open fire on those rioters, those insurrectionists, and i'm still haunted by that, to be honest with you, because i, you know, if they had opened fire, they would have probably taken a lot of lives, probably would have been a lot of people killed and who knows what kind of weapons were in that crowd there could have been a shootout at the united states capitol on, you know, on a real insurrection, a real bloody insurrection. and in a way, i have it stuck in my mind, that's what those insurrectionists wanted. they wanted martyr. they kind of wanted martyrs. they were okay with if people got killed in the capitol. after that whole day they brought us back in, you know, seven or eight hours later and the house and the senate continued to vote -- certify the electoral college victory of now president biden. and 140 republicans voted objected. we just had an insurrection. we just -- i worked in the capitol for 30 years. and i still can't get over that. they still -- 140 of them voted against certifying biden's election, you know. and, like, they couldn't -- they couldn't put it -- they couldn't take in what had just happened and do the right thing. and i still can't get past that. and so i'm kind of haunted by january 6th. what happened, what could happen, what it means, and trump is still out there. trump is never -- trump is still the head of the republican party. they go down and hold events in mar-a-lago because they want trump's approval. his isolation and his castigation lasted what, about a month? and we kicked him off -- >> two days. >> that's basically -- that's the penalty trump has paid. he's as powerful and maybe more powerful than ever. it is, to me, that, you know, there is nothing -- everything else from the year flows from that. >> you know, john, you said a couple of times that you're still haunted by january 6th. and we can see it, we can hear it in your voice. >> yeah. >> i am just -- thank you for sharing such personal recollections of something happening, you lived through it when most of the nation watched it unfold live on television. so i want to thank you for that. we have got to take a break. my panel is sticking with us. coming up, we'll discuss why the gop must not take control in 2022. stay with us. not take control n 2022 stay with us [music: sung by craig robinson] ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪ [sfx: sniffs] ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ try gain flings and you'll be a gainiac too! the only detergent with oxiboost and febreze. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette we can't move on to 2022 until we fully investigate all of the democrat cheating from 2020. the time for civility is over. the time for bipartisanship is over. now is the time for fighters. >> we aren't going to let this election be stolen by joe biden and the democrats. president trump won by a landslide. >> i grew up in a world where you have an audit every year. and businesses you have an audit. let's just audit the voting machines, publish it, so everybody can see it. >> the republican party this year has been, well, a hot mess. and frankly a danger to democracy. what could this mean if the republican party takes control in 2022? my panel is back with me now to break it all down. renee, tara and john. okay, john, i'll come to you first. as you said in the last block, you worked up there for 30 something years, you said three decades, but i've been talking a long time, since the insurrection, that there san is an atmosphere of menace on capitol hill. has that atmosphere of menace dissipated or increased since january 6th? >> i don't know really how to evaluate that. i mean, there is -- i mean, recently we had the president and vice president on the hill and a person with a gun at the same time. in the weeks and months after january 6th, i mean, it was -- the hill was unrecognizable to me. there were thousands of national guard troops. i feel like it is better, but, you know, then poor officer billy evans got killed at the gate. there is still incidents, threats out there. from members, you know, i think the tension between members, i mean, i started covering congress in, you know, pre-newt gingrich era and it was so toxic then. it is not even -- it is not even comparable. today, what we have is an order of magnitude greater by several orders of magnitude greater. they generally -- they generally -- house democrats are generally -- some are generally afraid of their republican colleagues, that they are a physical threat to them. i just -- there are still metal detectors outside the house chambers. so could i say it is better? or worse? i think -- i don't know. i think a year later the level of distrust is bad as it has ever been and, you know, just scratch the surface and it is right there. >> so, tara, i'm reminded of something mitch mcconnell said earlier in the year when there is talk about, you know, doing away with the filibuster. and he went to the floor and said, basically, y'all better watch out, because if you do it now, when we come back into power, it is going to be scorched earth. like, that's not an idle threat. if republicans become the majority in the house or the senate, it is going to be scorched earth. >> 100%. listen, however you feel about mitch mcconnell, he knows what the hell he's doing as senate majority leader. i mean, you can argue that mitch mcconnell still is running the senate, even as minority leader this year, with how dysfunctional the senate has been under chuck schumer's leadership, unfortunately. but, listen, the republicans have already demonstrated what they'll do. when the democrats first changed the rules for judicial nominations, when harry reid was leader, they did it because they wanted to unlock the gridlock concerning obama's federal judges, right. what did the republicans do. they said, okay, hold my beer. and then what did they do, they got rid of the filibuster majority rules for supreme court nominees. so, you think that -- you think that mitch mcconnell is not going get rid of the filibuster all together to push forward whatever legislative agenda republicans want. of course they will. he already said in front of donors, republican donors, they're not putting forth the legislative agenda for the 2022. they're going sit back and attack democrats and just sit there and wait until they take power again. so, you know, it is a wake-up call. you don't think that in the house if you get a majority -- a speaker of the house mccarthy who i don't think that's ever going to happen. i shocked you when i said -- >> you blew my mind. >> or one of the other, you know, political -- out there on the republican side, but don't think they will try to impeach joe biden or kamala harris or both of them at the same time. they have no interest in governing. the republicans are a nongoverning party. they want to own the libs and put forth authoritarian means to win elections. that's not a joke. we see it happening. >> i'm glad you brought that up. on the house side, if you do get a speaker jim jordan, a speaker marjorie taylor greene, let's be fanciful here, speaker madison cawthorn, it is not going to happen, but if the house -- if republicans take over the house, doesn't tara have a point, that all hell's going to break loose and they could file articles of impeachment against the president and the vice president? >> okay, can i just say, first, jonathan, speaker jim jordan? hush yourself. don't even put that out into the universe. >> tara, don't play mean. >> i mean, all hell will break loose. nothing will get done. this will be a vengeance fantasy that quentin tarantino could not have dreamt of. it is going to be payback time. mcconnell has said it, trump has certainly said it, and that's what this is about. it is always about amassing power for the sake of power. but we need to always be clear, the malignancy that is now the republican party has been lying in wait for years. and now it is really coming to the fore. trump didn't create it. all he did was exploit it. and so i keep thinking back to when there would be some sort of terrorist attack and there was a muslim group behind it and people would say, where are all the good muslims? where are all the good republicans? where are the republicans stepping up and saying, this is not what our country has to become and what we want our country to be. and to me, their silence says they are complicit in this. the silence also says to me there are no longer any good republicans. >> there are. they're just getting excommunicated, ask adam kinzinger or mitt romney the republicans you could fit in a canoe that are stepping up and speaking out, they risk their careers, which tells you everything you need to know about the state of the republican party. liz freaking cheney is no longer considered a republican in this climate? you got to be kidding me. >> right. >> they won't step up. >> correct. >> renee, luckily you guys are going to be in the next panel. so we'll continue part of this conversation when we come back. up next, we'll discuss year one of the biden/harris administration. first, here's a look at today's headlines. good morning, i'm lindsay reiser with an msnbc news update. while many americans are busy opening christmas gifts yesterday, the u.s. surpassed 52 million covid-19 cases. the national seven-day average rose to more than 189,000 cases this past week. the highest average in nearly a year. several hundred flights have been canceled today after nearly a thousand were canceled yesterday due to the rapid spread of omicron among flight crews. the northern part of the u.s. is dealing with severe winter storms. even flash flooding in parts of the country. desmond tutu has died. he gained prominence through his work as a human rights campaigner. he was awarded the nobel peace prize in 1984 for his tireless fight against apartheid in south africa. archbishop tutu was 90 years old. that's a quick look at today's headlines. back to a special holiday edition of the "the sunday show with jonathan capehart" right after a quick break. how with jonathan capehart" right after a quick break. at intra-cellular therapies, we're inspired by our circle. a circle that includes our researchers, driven by our award-winning science, who uncover new medicines to treat mental illness. it includes the compassionate healthcare professionals, the dedicated social workers, and the supportive peer counselors we work with to help improve - and even change - people's lives. moving from mental illness to mental wellness starts in our circle. this is intra-cellular therapies. want your clothes to smell freshly washed all day without heavy perfumes? 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>> c. >> a c? tara? >> b plus. >> b plus. john, i don't know if you're comfortable answering that question. if you are, give a grade. if not, tell us how is he viewed on the hill? >> i'm not going to give a grade, sorry. i would say uneven. it is -- some things that biden has done were very good. the american rescue plan was an important piece of legislation. $1.9 trillion and it was needed. i do think he has appointed some excellent people in office, very key. i think that's a big deal. i think there is a certain level of professionalism that was missing from the trump white house which has been restored. so i do think there is a lot of positives for the biden administration. i do think the negatives are -- afghanistan was a disaster. i don't care what anybody says, it was a disaster. yes, trump deserves major blame for the treaty, the taliban. but biden's responsible for the execution. it was disastrous. that was a seminole moment. they didn't get their arms around inflation, they misjudged it early on. what the impact is going to be and their messaging around it was terrible. messaging has been pretty poor overall, i would say. but, you know, look, i do think joe biden is a decent man and i think that comes across, you know, i do think for harris, i think it is important to, you know -- faces a lot of challenges and i think it is very important for the administration that harris -- that harris' image and harris' role in the administration be enhanced in this next year. it is critical, you have an 80-year-old president. this president could very well still be in office bit end of the term, god forbid, she could be. so, i mean, i think it is really critical that they do -- that harris needs to step up her own outreach efforts, not only to the media, but everywhere. >> right, right. so renee and tara, i'm coming to you because let's have a knockdown, dragout conversation about vice president harris and her media coverage and the -- and the perception of her. i'm of the mind that the media coverage of her is relentlessly negative to the point where it is just a rote narrative now. you can't write a story without vice president harris unless it includes at least ten brickbats in it. so, tara, you go first about, you know, vice president harris, and how she's done in her first year. >> well, i'd say she hasn't had a great first year. there have been a lot of challenges and some of them are, yes, the unfairness of being a woman of color in the office or being a woman at that level. we saw what happened with hillary clinton, elizabeth warren and others. but, you know, this is the big leagues. we can't whine about that. and you have to step up and i think she needs to reset. she needs to reset and perhaps having some new staff come in, revamping her shop, she needs to be more present and assertive in the roles she's been given. she was handed some really tough legislative priorities from immigration to civil rights. but we haven't really seen any substantive progress on any of those things. she needs to pick one main issue i think she can -- where she can shine. and there just needs to be a complete and total reset. some of her mistakes are self-inflicted too. but, you know, it is a tough learning curve, go from being a first term senator to being vice president of the united states. it goes along with the territory. >> right. and, you know, ain't nobody perfect. not saying that, you know, she's saint kamala harris. folks make mistakes, especially in big positions like that. but, renee, it is one thing to say step up, but that addage of a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound, i wonder if vice president harris were indeed to step up to the level that people think she should step up to, would they -- would it be covered? would people even find out? and, you know, she did a five-day trip to france, america's oldest ally, and it barely got any coverage. >> well, i mean, obviously, look, if she stepped up and we'll define what that means, but if she stepped up, people will complain she's overstepping her bounds, she's too ambitious. >> overshadowing the president. >> overshadowing the president. oh, my gosh, she thinks she's in charge. it is important to acknowledge that as usual a woman and a woman of color at that is being held to a completely different standard. when joe biden was president, was everybody worried about what he was doing or saying or what where he was. did they do that with mike pence? no, we always had white men in the role. i think she's being held to an unfair standard. yes, as usual, there are probablyflicted wounds there. i think they're being extraordinarily exaggerated because of who she is and what she represents. which represents a lot of people is a threat. >> you know what, you are absolutely right. my panel and i will be right back to discuss the key races to watch in 2022. keep it right here. watch in 2022. keep it right here when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. 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my panel answers that right now. rene, tara, john. tara, you go first. what races should folks be watching? >> so, of course we'll all pay attention to what's happening in some of the senate races given that the senate is 50-50 and control is on the line here, but for me this time around i'm really carefully paying attention to state and local races. this time we need to. why? donald trump is on a revenge tour. he is targeting states where he lost last time around very close margins and where the secretaries of states or governors like georgia, arizona, pennsylvania, michigan, where the state and local offices, the people did the right thing, followed the law and followed the constitutions and certified the elections. the whole idea of the big lie and what's going on with voter fraud and all of this nonsense, it's a plan and trump wants to install his people in these key positions heading down the road looking at 2024. so you've got quanon terry out there in arizona running for the governorship. you have people in georgia that he wants to take out the governor there, install his own people, donald trump's people. >> right. >> this is very serious stuff. i want the american people to pay attention to who their governor is, who their secretary of state is because they administer elections and on the state and local elections who's controlling their school boards and elections because that is the target for republicans in the long game. >> rene? >> you know, i think tara's right. got to pay attention to what's happening down ballot and the impact. on the senate side, absolutely paying attention to what's going to happen in georgia. donald trump was obsessed in georgia. we know what he was trying to do with the secretary of state there. interesting to see what raphael warnock can do. can he win a full term? i think it's a way of repudiating the senator's party. you put up any black person to run against him. herschel walker. i think it's interesting to watch that. what's going to happen in pennsylvania now that dr. oz is in. the citizens are throwing up anybody. it will say a lot about what's happening with the big lie and how people will respond to it when they go to ballot next year. >> john, i don't know if you're comfortable talking about races. you're a news side reporter. you're not an opinion guy like me and can just pop off so i'm going to three out my people, the races i'm watching. mayor of los angeles. congresswoman karen bass. lieutenant governor of pennsylvania we could have the first out gay elected official in pennsylvania in brian sims who's running for that race. like tara and rene, i'm looking at florida, pennsylvania, wisconsin. you have african-americans running for the senate in those -- from those states so we'll see if any or all of those folks are successful. john, considering that you've been covering congress for more than 30 years, on the hill are there people who just objectively speaking are vulnerable? and we might not be seeing them come january 2023? >> oh, yeah, there's lots of them. i think this is going to -- i agree with the other panelists. i think this is -- i look at a race like wisconsin, ron johnson, is he going to run again? he hasn't announced. i think he's absolutely vulnerable. that's a critical race. pennsylvania is a huge raise. you have mimet oz in there. dr. oz. he's objecting we call him mr. oz. we'll see on that side, democratic primaries. you have lieutenant governor john federman. val demming is in florida. >> yes. >> i think it's a tough race for her to win but she's an excellent candidate i think in a lot of ways. i think even if she loses depending how she runs because rubio is going to be tough. he's smart, has a lot of money and florida is trending red. she can still set herself up statewide. i think this is a very impressive person. i've covered her in congress. covered her in the impeachment trial. even if she loses depending how she runs, she could still be viable. there's a lot of races here that we're watching. i do think unfortunately for democrats the house is gone. the issue is on governor's races and seeing the future of the party. >> the house is probably gone not because of candidates but because of redistricting. >> and tradition. >> and stuff like that. john, tara, rene, thank you very, very much for coming back to "the sunday show." coming up, some of your favorite guests, including sheryl lee ralph, mandy patinkin and of course my aunt gloria will tell me the way they see it. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪ it's the most joyous time of year. especially at t-mobile! let's go to dianne. i got the awesome new iphone 13 pro and airpods, and t-mobile is paying for them both! and this is for new and existing customers. upgrade to the iphone 13 pro and airpods both on us. only at t-mobile. 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>> it's ridiculous. it's like the race movement, but it's like everything keeps changing. i thought with a new president and new vice president things would come together. i had no idea that the republicans would be so dismissive of everything and especially democrat manchin. we need to move forward, we really do. as far as voting rights, we just going to have to do a meeting to get out there and vote. especially get young people more involved. we need to be as effective as obama was. it's going to be up to young people to really get out and vote. and also participate in activities. >> right. >> they need to be in front of this. the move away from the '80s and '90s. >> well, you know, aunt gloria, we have an elected member of the state legislature in senator hughes. you have to go before the people and ask for their votes and get their votes. voting rights absolutely are important, but as aunt gloria points out, young people have to come out and vote. are young people going to be part of the process of protecting voting rights in the process? >> first of all, jonathan, what's up, aunt gloria? how you dogs? all the good? >> you the young people. >> there you go. jonathan, it's all about making sure young people see their connection to the vote. that state laws are dealing with the control of guns and access to firearms in our community, that the thing of climate change, which young people are very, very concerned about, have a relationship to voting, especially at the state level. quality schools. affordable college and training programs all come down to voting and so much is determined at the state level. now i believe in young people. i know that once young people get the information, get the word, that they will come out. they will vote. they will participate and they will force us to change. some of our greatest leaders were young people. i start with dr. king, right there. >> right. right. and the late congress man lewis. the last time y'all were here, sheryl lee ralph blew the roof off. >> what's the sermon, sweetheart? >> listen, i just want to say this, we cannot be separate anymore. young people need to learn and know exactly how important they are to the process. older people need to rev up their energy once again and become involved and so upset when people say, we don't need to build back better. tell me you don't need a better infrastructure. tell me you do not need child care. tell me we do not need to do something about the homeless. tell me we do not need to do something about mothers who are struggling with their children trying to balance do i take care of my family, do i hold on to my job? trying to balance these things, that's what build back better is. if anybody stands up and says i cannot explain this to my people, it is because they want to keep the people ignorant. they want to keep the people dumb especially the poorest among us. and they are in places like west virginia, georgia, alabama and people need to wake up and get involved in what is going on in their own political lives because the right to vote is something we might not have very soon. >> preach on. >> go on, gloria. i'm sitting here thinking she won't say the name but we know she's talking about senator joe manchin. >> of course we do. he be so rich in west virginia in coal country. he's made so much money on people. >> and they're invested on the backs of the poor people and you want to stand up and not tell them what is in the build back better bill. somebody's going to start making it plain to people, that this is about all of us, all of our livelyhoods. not just the riverest among us but all of us and i am tired of people keeping quiet about what's important for all of us because there's some pretty bad people out there who are making plans to make sure they continue to shoot young people in the street, that they keep people on the street and out of proper housing and it's wrong. >> aunt gloria, you've got 25 seconds. go ahead. >> she's right. somebody's got to tell these people. it's not just us, it's everyone. poor people are hurting. >> yes. >> they are hurting. they benefit from these things. we need an infrastructure bill. we need child care. there are mamas trying to make ends meet. they need a place to stay. they need a roof over their head. a permanent place. every town is looking at tiny housing. how come we don't have it? 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>> back with me now is my intrepid panel. aunt gloria, she's sort of prescient there. we needed a win. we got the win. when does it stop? it doesn't stop. we're now through -- yeah, it just doesn't stop. >> jonathan, aunt gloria's right, but the grind for justice, the fight for justice on all levels never stops. this thing is organic. we must keep fighting. we must fight on all fronts. we must remind about coalition building. if you want judicial reform, reform in courts. many judges around this country are elected locally. it goes back to the original issue of voter participation. we saw a couple of judges during the course of this year very publicly were like, what? how did they move forward? what was that? that judge was probably elected locally so we need to make sure we continue the fight for voting rights because it impacts everything else. the justice or the injustice from the funding of our schools. the injustice in the environmental justice issues in our communities. the injustice in the inadequate health care that we're receiving. the injustice across the board relates directly to voting and especially, especially, jonathan, at the state and local level. do not ignore your state representative, your state senator, your governor. do not ignore these individuals in the voting process. you know, jonathan, in the issue of criminal justice reform and prison reform, they are 1.3 million people across this nation that are incarcerated in state prisons, state prisons. only 230,000 are incarcerated in federal prisons. where do the changes have to be made? at the state level as much as we do at the federal level, but passing the john lewis voting rights stat, getting that work done in washington helps strengthen the effort at the state level but we've got to do it and once again, i'm going to say it. i believe in young people. i believe they have the power, we just need to activate them, educate them and push them out there and give them the freedom and belief they can do it and make it be what it is that we know it can be across the board. >> sherle, ralph, one of the disappointing things is not only have things stalled on getting the john lewis voting rights passed or the george floyd justice and policing act. after passing the house and months of negotiations back and forth between two senators, senator booker and senator scott, talks broke down and the george floyd justice and policing act is still a bill sitting on capitol hill. >> because the people -- it's not sexy anymore. the people have forgotten. see, when it's right in the people's face, the people remember, but when it pulls back, when there's no longer that much attention to it, the people are quick to forget. i will never forget because my son got shot. my son got shot three times out in the street by somebody just practicing how to put his son and handle himself out in these streets. my son was used as target practice so i'll never forget that, but a lot of people forget, oh, it's just those people. until it hits your home, your house, you don't know. i'm just saying that all of us need to get involved. if we don't get involved, we get exactly what we vote or don't vote for. if you truly know that we all deserve better, then we must all get in this fight and that is to put our country on the right track. we are a money people. we love money, but at some point we've got to think about family, community, education or else it will be like those movies we see where all the poor people are way down at the bottom and the rich people living in the sky and trying to get from the bottom to the sky is where the script is. it never is very good. >> the passion in both tone and words from sheryl lee ralph sort of echos what you've been saying on my air all this year. what is that passion and concern shared by your neighbors, shared in your community there in north carolina? >> i think the same thing cheryl lee is talking about. you have a black son, you going to be passionate. i've seen it happen so many times. i live in an integrated neighborhood, southeast raleigh, black section, all kinds of people live here. i had my son move to another section of town so he wouldn't be penalized for living here. you get stopped more. they're focused on what's here. people want to live and enjoy their life but i've seen it. he was stopped 20 times in his 20s just for being a darker skin black man. you know, he go across town he doesn't get stopped. so, you know, we have to fight for our neighbors and our neighborhood. we have to let them know, our representatives. and we've got to let people know, professionals in office mentoring the young people. the 70, 80-year-old, you should have someone you're mentoring, several who can come up and be in office. i'm predicting in another four years it's going to change. i don't think there's gb to be anymore bidens. there won't be until the day of, what we need. they going to -- they need to be running the country. >> it's interesting listening to her say that. when i was little my parents used to tell me i wouldn't have to worry about bigotry, racism and the horrible things about social injustice, that they would die off by the time i grew up, and here i am in this place now, here we all are and it is worse than ever because what they did was they put their hate into their children and it has grown with their children, we need to put the seed of success 23450 our children. we need to replant the seed of being bigger and we need to let them know how important education is, they're lying to you because they're keeping best education for our children, our children of color and our disenfranchised areas understand there is better on there. we have to take this break. my panel is sticking with us. up next we'll discuss what in the world happened to the republican party this year and we'll hear what senator hughes has to say about that. keep it right here. i'm trying, he's freaking me out. tippy-toes, tippy-toes, i don't see your tippy-toes. if you could just give me some dance lessons you would be saving my life. ♪ in a sky full of stars ♪ ♪ i think i saw you ♪ [ cheering ] that's my boy. o man, that's a whole lot of wrinkly at least my shoes look good! looking good start with bounce wrinkleguard, the megasheet designed to prevent wrinkles in the dryer. clerk: hello, how can i? 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it was far right and conservative but it wasn't enthralled to a cult leader like donald trump? >> you know, as a good civilian here at the civilian hotel i want to tell other sicilians, this started when it was infected by bad tea. the tea baggers came in and upset their party but they figured out, you know what, i think we can use these mad, crazy people tea baggers over here, and guess what, it has worked to their advantage. now we're seeing we've got a little bit of the same thing going on in the democratic party going on right now. so the democratic party has to beef itself up. come together, learn from what the republican party did with the tea baggers and work for the good and not the bad because the republican party, they all about that money, baby. all about that money. whoever they need to take down, they going to take down. they even have a manchurian candidate. so we've got to learn, baby. learn, learn, learn. and come at them because we cannot lose these next couple of years. get involved in your state and local politics. don't let another mid-year election come up and you don't get involved. you better vote, baby, because these are some tough times coming up. i am a good civilian and you need to know what's happening. >> darth vader man. >> aunt gloria, i mean, certainly ralph is talking about mf anchurian candidate. who could she be talking about. >> we don't know. >> this is supposed to be talking about the republican party. >> we all know. i'm predicting the end for them. i see a lot of young people, i met a lot of young republicans. they're decent people. they don't seem like trump people. the question is are most of those trump people elderly people or people who just want to join a crowd? i don't know if everybody is going to continue doing that. everybody wants to stay elected. everybody wants to be the next person to be in charge but you've got to look out. i think it's going to backfire. democrats, the most important thing they need to do is play chess. you can't keep playing checkers. you know you have to be smart. you have to be quick. you've got to -- you know, because the republicans going to play any game, any game to win. throw their mother out there, they'll throw it out just to get you to vote for them. be careful. it's going to be a really big game. >> they're playing three dimensional whatever it is they're playing. aunt gloria is staying with us. sheryl lee ralph. vincent hughes, i can't wait to meet you in person. covid, get out of here. >> i would love to. >> very nice meeting you. >> aunt gloria is sticking around. coming up, actors and activists. join the conversation. first, here's a look at today's headlines. good morning, i'm linds say reiser with an update. 52 million covid cases as the holiday weekend saw record numbers of positive tests in six different states. the surge of cases has snarled holiday travel leaving people stranded with the cancellation of thousands of flights this weekend as airlines scramble to find replacements for those who tested positive. some areas saw rare white christmas. a 70 mile stretch interstate had to shut down near lake tahoe after they saw nearly 2 feet of snow. archbishop des mund tutu has died. he won the nobel peace prize for his efforts in 1984. archbishop tutu was 90 years old. that's a look at today's headlines. back to "the sunday show" with jonathan cape heart. prevent them with downy wrinkleguard. feel the difference with downy. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. 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[ singing in yiddish ] happy new year. >> merry christmas. >> wow. well, thank you for that. we still have a little bit of time. i'm going to tell you what my wish for 2022 is. >> i would love to know. >> for democrats, meaning elected officials and voters, to stop getting in their own way. to, you know, you got the majority, you got the presidency, just get stuff done so that you can then go out and tell the american people what you've done that then motivates the base of the democratic party and all voters, quite frankly, who agree with you on most things, to go out there and vote and reward you for what you've done. that is my wish for 2022. and since i have the floor, and -- >> how do we help your wish come through, all of us out here? >> well, that's all you've been talking about, coming on my show for the last year. get involved. stay involved. get out and vote. call your members of congress. there's email and texting, yeah, but at the capitol, when you call and you crash the switchboard, that sends a message. they keep tallies of the number of calls that folks get. >> we always turn to swingleft.org. >> or movement voter project. and call mr. manchin because he isn't king. let's let him know we aren't happy we are with him stopping what the majority of americans want to happen. >> i'm going to have to spray my wife with the dog water bottle. >> that will get you really in trouble. >> just to put out the fire, i've got to put out the fire, if somebody can't put out that mr. manchin fire. >> i agree. we got to call. >> go ahead, aunt gloria. >> that's right, make those calls, don't give up. >> that's correct. that's really what we need. >> we still have a little bit of time, but i was going to -- because i didn't get to share, you know, the things that inspired me in 2021. in the last five minutes i'm going to tell you, one was this beautiful, beautiful debut novel by this young writer named mateo eskarapor named "black buck," about a young guy in new york city who gets a job in a startup and all the little things that he encounters and deals with, being the only black person. it ishilarious, searing social commentary. i recommend it to everybody. and then the show on hbo "insecure" with issa rae. "insecure" is to these days what "sex and the city" was in the early '90s. it's four black women in los angeles living their lives. this show is so hot, i found myself shazaming the music that comes through the screen. it makes me want to go and discover and live in l.a. in the same way that "sex and the city" made new york city sexy back then. los angeles and south los angeles is sexy to me because of "insecure." those are my two entities of inspiration for 2021. i already told you my wish for 2022. but in the 90 seconds we have left, i'm going to -- mandy, kathryn, and aunt gloria, final thoughts. >> i can't go that fast. >> jonathan and gloria, tune in to the podcast seen on radio, season 5, episode 11, there is a brilliant guy with a whole new way of living together. start your day with a poem to offset the move. >> search your family, search yourselves, search your neighbors for other individuals in our country who are young and ready to step up and be the next benjamin franklin and remind every one of us, we hold these truths to be self-evident. your morality, your conscious, your soul, to be self-evident. pay attention to what you see and what you feel. >> i'm paying attention to the clock. aunt gloria, you've got the last 30 seconds. >> just say hello to someone. smile. make their day. people are uncertain now. i don't care who it is. smile, say hello. let them know there is a difference. people do care. thank you. >> and aunt gloria said smile and say hello. with that i'll have to say goodbye. gloria, aunt gloria, mandy patinkin, kathryn grody, thank you very much. for now, keep it here on msnbc. he. with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? it's because they rub against you creating friction. and your clothes rub against you all day. for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle. just pour into the rinse dispenser and downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, fluffier, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. recognized by the national psoriasis foundation and national eczema association. superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance. ow! i'm ok! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only in theaters december 17th. ready for subway's eat fresh refresh™? that's the new and improved italian b.m.t.®, with new artisan italian bread, new black forest ham, and new mv- you gotta refresh to be fresh! hold up, false start on the spokesperson. save big. order through the app. ♪ nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: save big. order through the app. try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone. it's high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. you're watching

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