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>> it's surprising that he would admit that his claim of the fifth amendment is spurious, because if he did nothing wrong, then he has no fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination. that's what the fifth amendment is, and there he was admitting in public i have nothing to worry about in terms of self-incrimination because i didn't do anything wrong. and of course his accusation against the committee is also absurd. so i think it was a silly thing for him to have said. >> so malcolm, i hear your chuckle. you should efeel free to weigh in on that, but i want to ask, i saw this and thought of you, three retired generals wrote a op-ed in "the washington post" and they argue the military must prepare right now for an insurrection in 2024 and they know the lack of military preparation in 2020 was striking. malcolm, do you agree with that assessment? >> i absolutely do. you know, i've been saying that for well over a year now that we are going to have a very, very big problem over this next generation. the insurrection was just one of the events that happened. also, you know, when you go into what's called an insurgency, which is a long-term series of insurrections, they always have a political component, and that political component we're starting to find out was the actual planning for a coup d'état to overthrow the government. they thought they would do it through, you know, rigging the election and getting mike pence not to certify the election, but the people who came to the capitol the next day on january 6th were there to be the foot soldiers to do the police action to actually overthrow the government. even worse, we found out that in one of those text messages, someone said that -- or told mark meadows that the national guard would be brought in to protect trump's voters, which means that the national guard would have been militarized with the intent to help assist in an overthrow of the government. this is just horrific. so yes, the united states government must appear not for a military coup in 2024, what about next november in 2022 when they start rigging the election results or if they refuse to seat certain members in january 2023? we are not prepared to have people come to work with the intent of assisting in the overthrow of our government power. we generally have nowhere -- more discipline than that. but we saw in the last couple of days a national guard officer wrote in support of a convicted insurrectionist who pled guilty to attacking the capitol and said he shouldn't be kicked out of the national guard for that. you absolutely have to be kicked out. so this is where we need to look. >> jill, i mean, there's both this forward-looking conversation about preparation that is necessary. there's also this conversation about accountability. we're learning more about what many of trump's inner circle knew, especially the chief of staff mark meadows. have you seen anything revealed so far, jill, about meadows that puts him at risk of facing prison time if convicted? >> yes, i have. at first i thought mark meadows was just a witness to what donald trump knew. what did he know and when did he know it? now i see he was playing an active role in this, and he should be worried about what he has done. but i want to stress what malcolm just said, because i completely agree. i honestly feel afraid for democracy for the first time in my life. during watergate i never worried that democracy was going to end. i felt it was an event that would never occur, unique circumstances. but now we're seeing a better-prepared republican party, and i use the term loosely because it's not the republican party that any of us used to know, but the trump party is now better prepared to commit a coup than they were when he controlled the levers of government. he now controls state government and he's going to use it. i feel almost as if we're in 1939 in germany, and it can happen here if voting rights aren't passed, including something that will prevent state legislatures from saying we don't like these results, so we're going to determine a different set of electors. that has to be part of the voting rights that we pass. >> part of what is so wild, malcolm, about looking at these text messages, exchanges that have been made public this week, is realizing sort of -- we knew people were talking out of two sides of their mouth, but to actually see it play out -- it's not just the fox news hosts, it's trump's own son sending a text message reading we need an oval office address. he has to lead now. it has gone too far and gotten out of hand. all these people, though, i mean, that is what they were saying on that day still attacking the investigation. we always come back to this question, malcolm, of when republican leaders, when republican legislators actually decide that they want to be invested in preserving democracy over winning, you know, a series of elections. >> i think they've gotten a taste in the trump period of what real unadulterated raw power, where you could use any rule, change rules, ignore laws, go after individuals, and do all of this and understand that your base is with you, encourages you to do this, and to start really doling out the punishment of enemies. don't forget part of the attack on the capitol was this crazy ideology that developed where donald trump was a hero, martyr, god emperor of the united states in the qanon philosophy, and many of those people believed they were going to actually overthrow the government in what they called the storm that day, and then start executing liberals, right? they thought people were going to have with a formally was known amongst the republicans, the day of the rope, where they were going to start handle anyone who was part of the democratic party and start killing their neighbors. look, i saw the operations in rwanda in the run-up to the mass murders that happened there. was that what people were planning? no, but many people thought that's what donald trump was going to do, and they wanted him to do it. so this is where we all stand in danger. jill knows better than all of us. she was there at watergate. watergate is now a secondary, second-rate political story compared to this, which is the overthrow of the united states government with 30% of the american public supporting it. and the republican electorate calling for it. believe me, there won't be a democracy. the american experiment will come to a crashing halt next january 2023 if the republicans win the house of representatives because all they're going to do is pave the way for donald trump's return and there won't be a representative democratic body in this country. >> it's part of, jill, why there's an appetite for legislative action on voting rights. as we've been talking about. also why people want to see this committee continue to move at the rapid clip they have been moving at. a lot of the big names we have been waiting to see, knowing they were going to plead the fifth, where do you think this all goes next, jill? >> i think that they are building a very compelling set of circumstances and they will just continue. they've had over 300 witnesses so far. yes, i would like to see mark meadows have to testify. and if his testimony is what they're going for, i think maybe criminal contempt is not the right answer. maybe civil contempt is. because then he could be forced to testify. >> all right. jill wine-banks, you know it is not my weekend if i don't get to see you, so thank you for making time. malcolm is sticking with me. still to come, an online hoax that forced schools to close across the country. later, the ongoing calls for justice for families that were separated by the trump administration. we'll talk about that ahead on "american voices." but first, to richard lui with a look at the other big stories we're tracking this hour on msnbc. richard? >> alicia, good evening to you. a short time ago "saturday night live" announced it will not have a live audience for tonight's broadcast. that is not the plan at the moment. it cited new york city's rise in covid cases due to the omicron variant. tonight's show will still be hosted by paul rudd, but musical guest charlie xcx will not perform due to the limited number of cast and crew allowed on set. kentucky's governor saying 78 people are confirmed dead from last week's tornado event. more than 500 national guard troops remain activated to assist in recovery efforts there. the governor today added that state parks will remain open to provide food and shelter for the displaced. tiger woods was back in action today at the pnc championship in orlando. joining him, his 12-year-old son, charlie. today was the first time woods played in public since his february car accident when he hurt his leg. more "american voices" right after this break. challenge is helping people love what they love again. just one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. because life starts when heartburn stops. take the challenge at prilosecotc dot com. ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? 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99% are not real or not until the panic, hand wringing and media attention make them so. if you have to your knowledge write the phrase "disturbing trend" in your internet story, please rethink. which brings us to this conversation about how educators, parents, and journalists should contend with the real fear brought on by bogus claims. joining our panel, media matters president angela carson and malcolm is back with me. angela, did i set that up right? because it's hard to talk about this because the warning of threats was not real, but the fear was. how do we in the media talk about this without making it worse and amplifying it? >> i think that was a good setup. it starts with the right question. how do we not unintentionally amplify or play into these hoaxes or validate them, which actually what happened here. the hoax was validated in part by a school district in florida that misunderstood what was happening. they sort of took this one video response where some students there had identified their school district as the flash point for this, and basically issued a warning about it, which then created local news reporting, which then led to copycats on tiktok and it just snowballed. >> even dhs issuing a tweet saying they are aware of threats to schools, dhs doesn't have any information indicating any specific credible threats to schools but recommends communities remain alert. malcolm, what was wild to me as a parent of a child who does attend public schools is that i watched the fear grow in the group chat, right? as one person said, i guess i'm not going to send my kid and others wondered if they were supposed to send their kid. and i kept coming back to the parts of of the article that said these are not substantiated threats. these are not valid threats. but if you're just a parent who's deciding whether or not to send your kid to school, can you help us understand how those threats are assessed? >> i certainly can, but it's almost important to understand -- what's the old phrase by mark twain where he said, you know, a lie will travel around the world before the truth can get out of bed and put its pants on. and that's what we're seeing here. we're seeing the amplification of what could simply be, you know, a joke between two students or we see people who may, in fact, be developing now, certainly in the response that we've seen at these schools, of what could be the future of what we used to call bomb threats. and since parents are so concerned about the activities of students coming to school, the reality of going around shooting each other, having mass shootings at schools, much less having columbine-style mass murders, anything will be able to set this off. and all of our children are so wired, not just from the threat, but from their social media, they can hear of something in california or peru and actually believe and feel fear that that would engender if, in fact, it was happening in their district, and that interconnectivity of the internet shows that you cannot keep a rumor somewhere else from skming hurting your children. so what can parents do about that? limit the things your children use on the internet. the group chats, you know, i mean, my kid is grown up now, but a few years ago they didn't have as much communication as they have today. but certainly the same platforms, facebook, twitter, now instagram. i mean, instagram is a behemoth for kids. and then tiktok. people create these challenges that in itself could create a threat to the schools. so monitoring your child's consumption is the number one thing. >> do you have a sense -- does media matters have a sense where these hoaxes are coming from? we talked about the responsibility of media outlets, how we have to talk about this, the amount of attention we do or don't give it. for media consumers, what is it that they need to know? >> i think the biggest thing to know is that, especially in this context, this is the third major one we've seen this year so far that stems from tiktok. so by now i think we have two lessons here. one is that we should have gotten better at this, all of us, at identifying this early on and not intensifying it, and, two, that it's going to continue. your question about where it's starting, it's unclear. malcolm gave ideas that can snowball and replicate, but they also demonstrate a deeper vulnerability. which is that the platforms didn't put in place anything in the system to slow it from spreading, that the authorities, school districts, teachers, they were the ones that validated the slap a teacher hoax. all these county officials are sending out this thing about a video that never existed. there was not a tiktok to challenge slap your teacher, but they were all issuing warnings and preemptive defense about something that didn't exist. back in april, there was real threats from that one. there was an exact mirror image of what we saw called national rape day on tiktok where the top 50 videos, a combined 48 million views in just a short period of time said that rape was legal for a day, and that women needed to defend themselves and arm themselves at any public place they went. we saw students in that moment bringing knives and weapons to schools because they thought we -- they were going to get raped as a consequence of this. it was the exact same thing. there was actually no original video that could ever be identified that started it. in fact, the culprit seems to be actual concerned people that storefront heard a rumor or got it somewhere, started doing videos about it, and then they got replicated, amplified, and worst of all, validated by existing, trusted sources. >> thank you both so much for walking us through it. ahead, a look where we are in the fight against covid and now omicron. dr. uché blackstock joins us. including advice for handling the upcoming holidays. first, new developments in the fight to compensate families separated at the border. the lawyer who helped put an end to trump's no-tolerance policy joins us next. i've got moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months, after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪nothing is everything♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. trelegy for copd. 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>> you know, alicia, thank you for having me back. i think, as i said, i think it can only be politics because there would be no legal rationale for not negotiating. contrary to what the administration put out through anonymous sources, they walked away from negotiations, not us. there was no offer on the table. i've been doing this work for a long time, and frustration comes with it. this is going well beyond frustration for me. i am really shocked and angry that the administration has walked from this. the biden administration, president biden ran on this issue, used statistics from the aclu's lawsuit stopping family separation in the second presidential debate, said he was going to do everything within his power, and now he's interfered with the department of justice to settle these lawsuits. and i fear that people are forgetting just how bad this was. i mean, you rightly pointed out the scope of the problem, 5,600 little children separated, some just six months old. but each story is a story unto itself. each family is a story unto itself. i mean, imagine little children being ripped away from their parents, parents don't know where the children are going. people who have children should think about the first day they dropped off their children at school in kindergarten, how worried they were all day, how was the child doing. these parents had their children taken away for months and months and months, not knowing where the children were, being sent to detention centers all over the country. every day worrying what has happened to my child. some parents still haven't seen their children four years later. >> we've all watched the videos of children being reunited with their parents not recognizing their parents, having anxiety, trauma about being reconnected with their parents because of the length of time they spent separated. i only have about a minute left, but i do have to ask you, where does this then leave the families that were separated? >> so we are continuing to try and find all the families that were separated and reunite them. we hope that the biden administration will continue doing that and give them a pathway to remain in the country. as for financial compensation, we'll just go back to court and fight this. as a lot of people have said, experts, former government officials, it was smart of the department of justice to try to negotiate this because ultimately they're going to pay out more money if we go back to court, but the biden administration left us no choice, so the biden administration will now be in court publicly defending the shameful trump administration policy. it is shocking that this president has chosen to send his lawyers back in court to defend this policy. but that's where we are, and so we're back in court. >> lee, thank you so much for talking us through this. thank you for your time tonight. next, omicron on the rise. the reality we are all facing right now. what to do about the holidays. dr. uché blackstock on that and more after this. smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette unleash the freshness... still fresh. in wash-scent booster. ♪ downy unstopables (burke) with farmers auto multi-policy discount, the more policies you have with us, the more you could save on your auto insurance. 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remember that "new york times" characterizing 100,000 deaths as an incall itble -- incalculable loss? america's death toll today nearly 1 million is inconceivable. medical contributor dr. uché blackstock is the founder and ceo of advancing health equity. dr. blackstock, thank you so much for being here. i'm desperate to know what you want to hear from the president on tuesday. >> alicia, i need the president to be bold and courageous and innovative this tuesday. we heard so much about a very vaccine-centric strategy, and we need a plan that will involve layered mitigation, which we talk about so much. we need him to use his bully pulpit to encourage all states to have indoor mask mandates. we need him to make rapid testing even more accessible to people so they don't have to go through their insurance companies. we need him to talk about how he's going to make the testing infrastructure more robust. we also need to hear how he's going to set ventilation and air infiltration standards for businesses and schools and how he's going to close the gap in terms of vaccination rates because we're still seeing the same inequities we saw at the beginning of the vaccine rollout. we're now seeing with boosters in terms of racial inequities and socioeconomic equities and how we're going to keep workplaces safe as well. i want to hear a layered strategy approach. it cannot be vaccine focused because as we've seen, we had as many people die since the vaccine rollout since before the vaccine rollout. >> for those of you who don't follow dr. blackstock on instagram and twitter, she's very generous about sharing her personal interactions on those platforms. dr. blackstock, i was really struck by your text message exchange with your own dad where you said, daddy, hunker down, no visits for the next few weeks, even if people are vaccinated, making clear what your personal position on this is going to be. i'm seeing a lot of people questioning whether or not they're going to keep their holiday plans in place, especially if they were going to be traveling. how do we need to be thinking about this now? >> right. alici it was so painful to send my father that text message because i felt like, really, at this point almost two years into this, i'm telling my father, even though he's vaccinated and boosted to hunker down and stay safe. he doesn't have access to rapid tests. i want to make sure he stays safe. so we're going to see an unprecedented exponential increase in cases in the next few days to weeks, and i want people to really think seriously about getting together with loved ones and families. i have canceled my vacation. we were supposed to go out of the country on vacation. i canceled that a few weeks ago because i saw what was going to happen. and so i will tell people, try to stay home, try to avoid crowds, indoor places. if you have to get together, if you have access to them, rapid test right before the event, open windows, open doors, hepa filters if you can. but this is the time, really, to hunker down because it will be worth it in the end. >> you know, i'm sure you heard the audio we played at the beginning of health care workers, just absolutely -- once again feeling crushed by this virus. is the system prepared for this next wave? >> alicia, it's not because -- as we see in a number of states already, hospitals are already at capacity. so what is going to happen? what's going to happen is people who are infected with covid and have severe disease need to be hospitalized, there won't be beds for them. there won't be enough health care workers for them. there won't be enough ventilators for them. people who come to the hospital for non-covid related issues, heart attacks, car accidents, slip and falls, won't be able to get proper treatment. i think we're going to see something we've never seen before the pandemic and i'm really worried. so i'm hoping that on tuesday president biden, as i said, can be courageous and come out with a holistic equity-focused policy and strategy approach that is going to keep all americans safe. >> dr. blackstock, as always, thank you for your insights and time. producer, writer, and actress gloria calderon kellett with her new show "with love," and how it expands our idea of who belongs in a rom-com. but first, a quick programming note. tomorrow night msnbc reports on the congressional investigation of the attack on the capitol on january 6th. yasmin vossoughian is on the capitol grounds as it all unfolded. join her for a special msnbc report with yasmin vossoughian "attack on the capitol" tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. more "american voices" after the break. - oh...oh. - what's going on? 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"the washington post" calls "with love", quote, a feel-good show that actually feels good, the reviewer adding by the end of the season there was only one thing i wanted for christmas, another year with the diaz's. i sat down to discuss "with love" with gloria, specifically her desire to reshape representation in hollywood. >> it strikes me that so many of the headlines about with "the" expanding who it is that gets to be in a rom-com. why does that matter? >> i think it's crazy, actually, that it has taken this long. you know, we have been a part of this country, many people have been a part of this country and have been invisible on screen. and so in 2021, 2022 in a minute, to see that every headline is saying, oh, finally there's latinos and there's, you know, african-americans and there's asians, and there's lgbtqia people and they all exist, it's like, yes, as they do in the world. so none of this is new. and so for me it's just correcting hundreds of years of erasure. and we want to be a part of fun, romance, holiday-themed, glorious with a kitchen. we want that too, and we have been living that. and it's very rarely seen on tv, so it feels like it's correcting something that should've been corrected a long time ago. >> you said that amazon jumped at this script. you proposed it to them, they took it no questions asked. what do you think about it that resonated so deeply? >> they really understand that there is deep need for this representation. it's why they brought me on. they really said that they would deport me and love me and make sure the world knew i was making something. they have stood by those words, which means a great deal because, you know, when i started one day at a time, dire with the future president and mr. iglesias and alicia garcia and all these shows that are now gone. so we are in a space yet again where we thought it was this, but now it's this again. so the sustaining something does exist that is reverberating with culture and supporting that, i think, the thing we haven't really seen yet. amazon wants to speak to their consumer, which is a lot of us, and i feel so grateful in this moment, especially post-pandemic, this few years of collective trauma and being isolated. the show is a reminder of who we can be again, of all that love and fun that we can have again, and finally seeing ourselves at the center of the story. >> gloria, to that point about hollywood and about representation, i think there are a lot of people who care about it, they hear it, and then sort check out because they think to themselves, i'm not a hollywood big wig. i am not in a position to make a big impact. as you noted, every consumer has power in this market. i think a lot of us understand how we use that power when we go to movie theaters and we choose to spend our money. in the world of streaming, how do we make it clear what we want to see more of? >> we watch it. we watch it again and again and again. you talk about it on your social media, you tell friends about it in real life. everyone who wants an equitable space in this country for everyone to have the opportunity to thrive needs to be a participant and needs to be civically minded and the work of anti-racism is daily work. because we live with it daily. we need the people that love us and want to support us and want to see change experience ways that they can participate in changing the narrative daily. and i've certainly found that with so many incredible white male allies. and i've tried to do that because i'm still a cis straight lady, even though i'm a latina, i am a cis straight. i try to lift up people from other communities where i can, because i know that we're all going to have a way better time on this planet together if we can link arms. so, i think it's really really vital. >> our thanks to gloria calderon kellett. a set of victories against reproductive care. frequent heartburn? not anymore. the prilosec otc two-week challenge is helping people love what they love again. just one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. because life starts when heartburn stops. take the challenge at prilosecotc dot com. 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a notable victory for reproductive rights. but now as the supreme court debates the ruche of roe v. wade, medical abortions could be crucial for those in republican-led states. remember, 26 states are poised to restrict access to abortion if the supreme court strikes on you roe. this might help because the patchwork of state regulation has already targeted abortion pills. 19 states require clinicians to be present when this medication is administered, that means no telehealth consultations, the pills cannot be mailed. someone seeking care in west texas would need to find an abortion provider hundreds of miles away, go there for pills that are clinically proven to be safer than viagra. what the fda could do is lift the requirement that subscribers must be certified abortion providers and open the process to existing medical networks. a doctor from uc san francisco wrote in the last "times," people could get medication abortions from nurse practitioners. rural patients could go to local health clinics. college students could get help from the school than going to clinician. this would enhance patient-centered care given that many patients would prefer to get their abortion from their primary care provider. again, we're not there yet. this week, a reminder that enefforts to increase access to care will run up against a patchwork of laws to make it hard often impossible to make choices over your own body. that's all the time i have for today. i'm alicia menendez. be sure to catch more "american voices" tomorrow, hosted by the and one only katie phang. and then starting 6:00 p.m. eastern. from all of us at msnbc, happy holidays and have a great night. there are a lot of words to describe the new covid surge that's filling up hospitals he around the country and leading to long lines for testing, but here are just a couple that come to mind. sudden and scary. today marks just three weeks since south african scientists identified the new omicron variant, just three weeks. 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