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all right, that's our show for today, thanks for watching. i'll be back next saturday at 10:00 a.m. eastern. for now, stay tuned for the amazing and brilliant and beautiful and lovely alex witt. hey, alex. >> you are the best lead in every single saturday for which i thank you so much my friend. appreciate that. >> thank you, alex. ♪♪ and a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. we are at high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "alex witt reports." we begin with the new criminal charges against steve bannon, the trump ally and adviser facing two counts of contempt of congress for failing to comply with a subpoena issued by january 6th investigators. law enforcement officials tell nbc news that bannon is expected to turn himself in on monday and will appear in court that afternoon. while select committee members are hoping this indictment will turn up the heat on other trump alies to comply. >> this sends a really important message to future, you know, invited witnesses. future folks that are subpoenaed. you know, you cannot ignore congress. the reality is you may not like it. you may not like the investigation. you may think nothing wrong was done, but you're not going to be able to avoid it. >> meantime, in glasgow, the u.n. climate summit has now gone into overtime stretching past the friday deadline to try to come to a consensus on a global deal to tackle climate change. right now delegates are pouring over a new draft agreement. any deal would need approval from roughly 200 countries. another roadblock for the biden administration's covid initiative. overnight, a federal appeals court upheld its previous order to temporarily block the vaccine or test mandate for employers. a three-judge panel for the louisiana court said the biden administration's order exposes companies to, quote, severe financial risk if they refuse to fail or comply and threatens to decimate their work forces. so in just a few minutes, nbc's mike memoli will be joining us from the white house with two big developments. we're going to get reaction throughout this hour. first we're going to go right to washington and those criminal charges against steve bannon. here's nbc news white house correspondent monica alba with the latest. >> reporter: former trump adviser and confidant steve bannon under indictment by a federal grand jury. charged with two counts of contempt of congress for failing to comply with a subpoena issued by the january 6th investigators. after bannon refused to testify before the panel or turn over requested documents about his role in the lead up to the riot. lawmakers want to question him about comments made the day before. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> reporter: this is the first time the department of justice has issued this kind of indictment under the circumstances. attorney general merrick garland saying the charges reflect their, quote, steadfast commitment to show the american people by word and deed that the department adheres to the rule of law. committee chairman benny thompson and vice chair liz cheney writing the move should send a clear message to anyone who thinks they can ignore or try to stonewall our investigation. no one is above the law. >> not only interested in asking him questions but we're interested in documents that we've asked him for, you know, the documents don't lie. >> the news coming just hours after former trump chief of staff mark meadows refused to appear for a deposition on capitol hill prompting the commission to consider pursuing contempt to enforce that subpoena. former president trump has directed his past aides not to cooperate citing executive privilege, though insiders like bannon were private citizens at the time of the attack. all as an appeals court weighs whether the national archives must hand over hundreds of pages of documents from trump's time in the white house to congress later this month. >> now, if convicted, mr. bannon could face up to a year behind bars and a fine of up to $100,000. the committee has already subpoenaed 16 former trump white house officials for testimony, documents, or both with more expected to come. >> all right, and that was monica alba reporting there. so joining me right now, alencia johnson, former consultant on joe biden and elizabeth warren's presidential campaign. former spokesperson for the democratic national committee, and kirk bar -- kurt bardella. i hope your chairs are comfortable. there's so much to talk about. first of all, alencia, your reaction to this indictment. how do you see it? >> well, i think it is an enormous show that we, the people in congress are not -- excuse me, the justice department is not playing when it comes to what has happened on january 6th, and that no one is above the law. and i think it's a really important signal to all the people that have been called to testify and to show up for depositions that you are not under some protection that goes against what congress says that you must do, and that this department of justice is going to make sure we get to the truth. it's a really important step and i'm hopeful we will see more to come. you will see more of this for more people who have been involved in january 6th. >> okay, kurt, this is interesting because you really have an interesting perspective having actually worked under steve bannon. what do you make of it all? how do you think your former boss is responding to all of this? >> i think that he is reveling in it, alex. i think that steve, much like trump, really wants the conversation to always be about him. he is an egomaniacal narcissist in his own right. this guy is wired differently. the things that would make most people cringe, have concern, be worried about, stressed about, he reacts the exact opposite. he really does relish in it, and he believes that he is in this fight and it's a fight that he can win, that he has the willpower and the stamina really to outlast the process. that's what he felt like when he was running his scam pac that he was indicted and convicted of. donald trump pardoned him. he went scot-free. i think he believes that history will repeat itself, that ultimately he will be able to run the clock out on the court process, which we know from experience has been a very long process anytime these things get litigated. he said that republicans will take back congress, and that donald trump will get elected in two years and if he needs to, pardoned again. i don't think steve is sweating any of this, and he believes this is a fight he can win and it's incumbent upon us, to prove him wrong to show that we do have checks and balances in america, that congress is a co-equal branch, there is going to be oversight, and more importantly oversight that's enforced in realtime. that's something that needs to change because if the message going forward for anybody that says well, we're going to ignore you and run out the clock and get away with it, then checks and balances is over forever. >> i could listen to you go on for quite some time, absolutely fascinating. >> how much of this is being done to kurt's point to send a signal to those inclined to refuse the subpoenas. which person do you think might be the biggest target? >> i think that's right. i think that this signal from this justice department is that nobody is above the law. if you don't comply with congress, you will be held accountable. i want to be clear about this, while everyone is talking about steve bannon and mark meadows and the folks who may not comply. this isn't about those people individually. one thing to know about attorney general merrick garland from my time knowing him and my time at the justice department is that they believe applying the facts to the law, and i can tell you that a.g. garland wasn't thinking about steve bannon himself, isn't thinking about mark meadows. he's thinking about what are the facts and the fact here is they did not comply with a subpoena, and it is very simple. you don't comply, you will be held accountable. so he is sending a clear message, but i also want everyone to understand that a.g. garland is really focused on getting this right. he wants to restore -- from the beginning he has said he's wanted to restore trust in the justice department. he has shown over the last nine to ten months that he has done that, and it is -- it will be critical moving forward if they're going to hold anyone else accountable, it will be critical moving forward to not only lay this groundwork, but to continue with applying the facts and law in every situation. >> really quickly before i let you guys take a short break, xochitl, when it comes to merrick guard garland, he took a little bit of heat for the amount of time it has taken to get to this point with steve bannon, right? >> yeah. >> there were a lot of people screaming from the rooftops saying come on, how could he possibly use the cloak of executive privilege at this point, it is obvious. you don't think that has tainted anything at all with this justice department, and he's taken his deliberate time and that should then shut up the naysayers? >> i don't think that merrick garland listens to the naysayers, to be honest with you. he is very focused on getting this right, and he is a senior leadership that understands that they need to do everything they can to apply the law where it is necessary. that is an independent justice department, something that we did not see in the last four years, and you've seen it in this administration that the white house is not involved and this is completely independent from a.j. garland. >> okay, all three of you, take a short break. i'll talk to you again this just a few minutes. thanks so much. also in washington, president biden is gearing up to sign that bipartisan infrastructure bill on monday. it is a major win for the administration, but it comes as economic concerns certainly growing. a new report showing inflation is at its highest in three decades. we've got nbc's mike memoli standing by at the white house for us. good day to you, mike, we have some bad news there on inflation. that's kind of overshadowing the president's big win on infrastructure. so what's he saying? >> reporter: you call it a big win, we've been talking for so long about how this white house needed a big win given the president's dipping approval ratings. they're getting ready to celebrate with a bill signing ceremony here at the white house on monday. a lot of the enthusiasm you might have expected for this achievement has been tempered by that inflation news. you sort of see that in the president's schedule. remember the first event when he did this road show on wednesday in baltimore. not about a bridge project, road project, rail project, but talking about supply chains, one of those big concerns a lot of people have heading into the holidays. yesterday when he held his third cabinet meeting since taking office, he made sure to address the concerns he knows americans are feeling about higher praises -- prices, instead there's a solution in store. >> i say yes, ease, lower inflationary pressures on our economy. and we'll be carrying this out, what i call blue collar blueprint for america, the one that builds the economy from the bottom up and middle out and one not from the top down. >> reporter: there's been something of a messaging shift here at the white house, alex. in the beginning of the year when there was concerns about inflation, warning about it, they talked about it being transitory. temporary, now they're acknowledging it and saying it's because of this inflation they need to do the next step of the president's economic agenda, the build back better plan, that makes the investments in safety nets and other programs that will help americans' bottom lines. >> thank you so much. to your point, just how long will this surge in prices last? in the next hour i will ask white house economic adviser jared bernstein about what the white house is doing to combat inflation. there's some new twists, even on a saturday in the kyle rittenhouse trial. the big question, will these developments that you may not even have heard about change the prospect for conviction or acquittal. those new details next. those new details next ymore. the prilosec otc two-week challenge is helping people love what they love again. just one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. because life starts when heartburn stops. take the challenge at prilosecotc dot com. ♪ ♪ 'tis the season to break tradition in a cadillac. don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪ now you see me. now you don't. now you see me. now you don't. now you see me. now you don't. we see you. so we designed our new no7 pure retinol range for your skin. informed by 15 years of scientific research; and formulated to be gentler to skin. powerfully targeting the appearance of dark spots, wrinkles, and boosting radiance. only from no7. 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>> reporter: yeah, so the judge has said he is inclined to deny the prosecution's request for lesser charges as it relates to the first person kyle rittenhouse shot and killed, joseph rosenbaum, because he says he thinks that could be overturned on appeal, but he says he is inclined to side with and allow the prosecution to bring forward these lesser charges on some of the other charges. right now, we're waiting to hear what the judge will ultimately do. he says that he will make his final decision sometime today. we've heard from over 30 witnesses throughout this trial, but at times it's actually been the judge who has stood out. >> national guard troops are on standby. court is in recess, and the jury is set to decide kyle rittenhouse's fate would likely consider some lesser charges. >> so help you god. >> rittenhouse faces five felony charges, plus a misdemeanor weapons charge. he's pled not guilty to all of them. if allowed the jury could consider lesser charges in some instances like reckless instead of intentional homicide. >> by having a lesser included offense included, you're raising the risk of conviction, although you're avoiding the possibility that the jury will end up comp mizing on the more serious crime. >> closing arguments are set to begin monday, but as the divisive case comes to an end, it's the judge many are talking about. judge bruce schroeder, the longest serving active circuit judge in wisconsin repeatedly raising eyebrows with his comments. on thursday he asked the courtroom to applaud a witness who was also a veteran. at another point he commented on lunch. >> hope the asian food isn't coming, isn't on one of those boats in long beach harbor. >> reporter: the president of asian-americans advancing justice telling nbc news, it is inappropriate for a judge to bring a joke that involves ethnicity into the courtroom. judge schroeder has also repeatedly clashed with the lead prosecutor. >> is there something that i'm saying that draws the face that you're making? >> i -- >> go ahead, say what you want to say. >> i have to say, your honor, yesterday, i was the target of your ire for disregarding your orders. today the defense is disregarding your order. >> reporter: all of it capping off a week of explosive testimony. >> we're going to just take -- >> reporter: and each side will have two and a half hours to make their closing arguments on monday. alex. >> ellison barber, thank you so much for that update. let's bring in civil rights attorney charles coleman, a former prosecutor. he's also a diversity consultant, activists and curator of the black superhero project. welcome to you. let's get to the situation of the prosecutor asking for lesser charges, how unusual is that, particularly at this stage of a trial? does it feel like a hail mary for the prosecution? >> well, alex, one of the things that you learn as a prosecutor is sometimes it's better to get some of a conviction than none of a conviction, and you have to be honest about the case that you've been able to put forward in front of the jury. if you don't feel like you can get the top count, then you need to consider what are the lesser charges that you can compromise on in order to be able to walk away with something rather than nothing, and i think that's what prosecutors have done here. you don't know how the facts are going to play out in front of a jury when you start a trial. you don't know what's going to develop. you have a theory of the case, and you're not sure what's exactly going to work well. sometimes things that you plan do not go as you intended, and so you have to make an assessment at the charging phase before the judge gives the instructions to the jury and before you do your summation, and that's what the prosecutors here did. they took an assessment of what they were able to put in front of the jury, what facts actually came out, what was strong about their case, and they ultimately decided that this is the direction that they needed to go in order to make sure that they get something in terms of a conviction of kyle rittenhouse and he doesn't walk free entirely. >> is it fair to him as a defendant to add lesser charges? can defense use this as grounds for an appeal? >> no, not necessarily, alex. this is something that happens all the time. and one of the reasons why it's called a lesser charge is that oftentimes when you come with more difficult charges or harder charges, you have to prove the elements of the lesser charge as you go forward. that's one of the reasons why prosecutors do this. let's say there are five elements to the top count. the lesser charge may only require that you establish three elements. it doesn't mean that the facts are any different. it just means in terms of what you've been able to prove, you've been able to prove the lesser charge but not the additional two elements that might make you able -- might put you in position to get the top count. so this is not prejudicial to the defendant. at the end of the day, whether they had to choose the lesser charge or whether they were choosing the top count, the burden of the prosecution remains. they still have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. and so the defendant is in no way prejudiced. >> okay. let me read you a line, and this comes from professor isaac bailey. it's a piece for nbc news think, in which he writes, quote, if rittenhouse is convicted, he will likely stop being a right wing mascot and become a right wing martyr. if he isn't convicted he will set a precedent for others like him to pick up guns they shouldn't have and thrust themselves in the middle of unrest they should avoid, confident in knowing that prison won't be in their future. so look, charles, trials are limited to the evidence that's presented in court, but do jurors consider wider concepts like accountability when making their decisions? >> i absolutely think that they do, but i think that how this plays out in this case may be a different situation. you have to think about the makeup of the jury. you have to think about what it is to be in kenosha, wisconsin, and i don't necessarily know that if you go back to the impetus for how this all took place that the jury is even sympathetic as to the reason kyle rittenhouse may have crossed state lines and been in kenosha to begin with, and that was the shooting of jacob blake by kenosha, wisconsin, police officers, and those sorts of protests in terms of where this emanated from paints a different picture for the jury, and what i mean by that is when you talk about what it is to be accountable around the situation, i think we may be looking at that very differently. as far as kyle rittenhouse being sort of a darling of right wipg wingers or white nationalists or people who may feel emboldened, whether you are a second amendment defender o'or what have you. i think that ship has already sailed. regardless of the outcome of this trial, i think kyle rittenhouse is going to be a hero or a martyr for the right. what he will not be in either case is forgotten about. i think that's something the jury is going to have to understand and live with one way or the other. >> very interesting comments there, charles coleman, i appreciate you. coming up next, the panelists back again examining some of the week's headlines for us, that includes a gop attack on "sesame street" and silences from republicans when people from their own party get threatened for siding with democrats. some of this you need to hear to believe. need to hear to believe. 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>> reporter: the committee hopes this will send a serious warning to other witnesses subpoenaed. steve bannon yesterday was indicted on two counts related to his defiance of the congressional subpoena, one, for not appearing for his deposition and the other for not producing those documents that were requested. each of those, by the way, carry up to a year behind bars and up to $100,000 in fines. let's turn now, though, to mark meadows. this is the next target of the committee who hasn't been cooperating with the panel whatsoever. he failed to produce documents this week and also didn't show up for a scheduled deposition yesterday as you mentioned. he was the former president's chief of staff, of course, and was there in the white house on january 6th, so the committee has a big reason that they want to hear from him. now, members on the panel spoke out yesterday after bannon's indictment came through. take a listen to what adam kinzinger had to say. >> it sends a really important message to future, you know, invited witnesses, future folks that are subpoenaed. you know, you cannot ignore congress. the reality is you may not like it. you may not like the investigation. you may think nothing wrong was done, but you're not going to be able to avoid it. >> reporter: alex, i can't imagine any of the 20 trump aides that were subpoenaed like the investigation, but look, what the justice department sent yesterday, the message they sent was if you don't cooperate with the committee, you're going to have to face consequences. >> indeed, okay. well, we'll see where those consequences take them, thank you so much. let's go to another wrinkle. it happened this week on capitol hill. so remember this episode? >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> yeah, we remember. that chilling video shows the mob of insurrectionists chanting about hanging the then vice president of the united states. the former president appears to be defending. donald trump saying those chants were understandable because the crowd was angry the election hadn't been overturned. nbc has reached out to the trump team for comment, but we have not yet heard a response. but my panel is back with me to give me their responses to all of this. alencia johnson, xochitl hinojosa and kurt bardella. there's a new game i like to play. it's called just the headline. i'm ging to show each of you a headline about a different topic and you give me your take. kurt, starting with you, that story about trump defending january 6th rioters "hang mike pence" chant, how stunning is that? >> it actually is stunning, i mean, i think we've gotten so conditioned for the absurdity of donald trump's statements and reaction, that sometimes it makes all of us numb. let's be clear what this is, this is the former president of the united states, the leader of the republican party making it casually acceptable to assassinate his vice president. that's what that is. he is defending those who wanted to commit a political assassination on the at the time sitting vice president of this country. that's the person that the republican party is following in line behind. that's the person that the republican party spends their time trying to court the endorsement of, someone who wants to reap that kind of carnage and violence and mayhem on someone who is on his own side. and i don't think that we can allow ourselves to be numb to that because the reality is, what we're seeing when someone makes it okay and makes it so casual to incite that kind of violence, it's a curtain raiser. it's a preview of what you can expect going forward. what we saw on january 6th, and i've said this a few times before and i really do believe it. what we saw on january 6th is the opening act of what these people, these autocrat want to bes, and to those who stand up against them. they believe that through their threats and their intimidation and their violence and their white nationalism, that the rest of us will be beaten down into submission. the america that these people -- these forces that donald trump wants to marshal, the america that they want to create is one in which people who look like me and who look like other communities of color are secondary class citizens. the people who believe in equality and freedom and social justice and choice are relegated to the sidelines so that they can impose their will on the rest of us. it's a very dangerous time. i don't think people appreciate how close to the edge our democracy is right now. when it gets to the point where the leader of one of the two political parties in america can just so casually throw out the idea of hanging his vice president. >> yeah, and let's remind the viewers this for not overturning the election, which on that day to this day has zero reason to be overturned. i mean, it was -- well, we can go on and on about that. i know we all agree about that. so let's go to the headline this one for you, alencia, with democrats moving to censure paul gosar over that violent anime video he posted depicting hill killing andrea ocasio-cortez and then attacking president biden, what is your reaction to that? >> you know, it's really appalling at the human level he hasn't even apologized or even acknowledged how violent this video is, and it's really scary to think that our government and our politics have gotten this far, and that you have members of congress who can't even work with their colleagues, who will not respect them. we can have differing opinions, absolutely, but we cannot gaslight and say that, you know, or post things that are showing that we will commit violence against one of our colleagues and then try to say, oh, it's just a video. it's just a cartoon. this is actually what emboldens people to take action. we know that aoc is one of the most targeted, unfortunately, members of congress. we know that her name was invoked so many times in the insurrection. when people get riled up, when the extreme part of the conservative base gets riled up, we know who they start to attack, they start to attack some of the women of color. when this is coming from within the ranks of congress and from your colleagues, it is very dangerous. i applaud the members who are taking a stance against this. we should stand against this regardless of who it is, regardless of which party it comes from. this isn't a partisan issue. this is a respect for your colleagues and not be violent. >> points all well taken. i'm very much looking forward to speaking with his sister jennifer a couple of hours from now because i'm just curious if he has always behaved this way or not. it will be very interesting to get to the bottom of that. how about this, xochitl, death threats, tweets jolt the 13 republicans in congress who supported that bipartisan infrastructure bill. what's your reaction to that? >> well, alex, one thing i want to point out, the last three headlines that we are talking about here paint a picture of a republican party that is okay with violence. it is okay with threats, and on the other hand, you have a democratic party who is about to hit the road. president biden started hitting the road last week in baltimore selling a bipartisan infrastructure package, something that both democrats and republicans have been wanting to talk about for -- have been wanting to do as long as i have been alive. and so this is a very -- there's a stark contrast between the two parties. one that is delivering for american people giving us clean drinking water, making sure that we don't have lead pipes. making sure we have access to broadband. making sure we fix our roads and bridges, and it was a bipartisan effort, and then on the other hand, you have a republican party who instead of working with this administration, instead of delivering for the american people, instead of looking at their constituents in the eye and saying, you know, i deliver this for you, they're threatening their colleagues. it is appalling. it is not surprising given all the headlines in the news about the republican party right now, but it is appalling and our elected leaders regardless of whether you are democrat, republican, independent, must act better and must set an example for the rest of the american people, and it is unfortunate this trumps republican party is not doing that. and it's quite disgusting how far right this republican party has gone and what they'll do for power. >> yeah. all right, you guys. sit tight because i have a few more questions on the other side of the break. and for all of you just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, it does. from one school board voting unanimously to ban books to talk of burning those books. the panel's going to tackle that headline and another alarming one about the teaching of racism. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ tums vs. mozzarella stick to when heartburn hits, ld. fight back fast with tums chewy bites. fast heartburn relief in every bite. crunchy outside, chewy inside. ♪ tums, tums, tums, tums ♪ tums chewy bites as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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>> well, if you want to know what party in america is actually the party of cancel culture, there is your answer for you. the republican party is so afraid of education and information and historical context and facts that they are willing to literally burn books that tell the truth about our american story. and i think this is something that democrats need to start seizing on here. one of the things that we've seen in recent month thes is this idea that republicans can hijack the issue of education and make it about something that it's really not. what we are fighting for, what we want in our classrooms and for our children is an honest telling of our story, and it is an imperfect story, and there's nothing wrong with that. there's nothing to be ashamed about that. we are a country that should be always striving to get better. we are trying to form a more perfect union. that is a pursuit that never ends, that never stops, and it shouldn't. and the only way that we can get there is if we tell the truth about how we got to where we are right now, and what we can do better. >> which brings me to this for you, alencia, 43% of republicans in new surveys oppose teaching history of racism in schools. that's according to the monmouth poll. what's your reaction to that? 43%. >> well, the reality is they don't want to teach the history that has allowed for some people to maintain power structures in this country, and unfortunately, it is doing a disservice to the future generations. it's doing a disservice to our communities right now. i'm actually glad that this poll came out because we're having this conversation about critical race theory. we're having this conversation about actually being taught about historically marginalized communities in schools when the reality is the republican party and conservatives have said, you know what? we don't want to teach about race because it would expose some of our hand that we have benefitted from these systems. i'm glad that we're having a conversation and getting to the root of this. as my co-panelists said, we can't correct where we are going if we don't know where we came from. and just because we don't talk about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. we cannot continue to sensor our schools and we cannot continue to prevent children from knowing the honest truth. >> it's so important to learn and correct things moving forward. here's the last one for you, xochitl, ted cruz excuses big board of spreading government propaganda after the "sesame street" character tweeted he received the covid vaccine. yeah, okay, what are your thoughts on that one, big bird? >> well, you know, big bird hs been promoting vaccinations since i believe it was 1972. ted cruz was 2 years old, i'm pretty sure ted cruz was watching big bird when he was 2 years old, and i'm pretty sure that ted cruz went to go get vaccinated. and so this is going back to, you know, a senator that doesn't understand the importance of vaccination. they're trying to politicize it. they are quickly becoming the anti-vaxx party. it's are very sad in my state of texas you have a governor abbott and senator cruz that are trying to go even further to the right to see who can please trump even more, but it is extremely sad, and instead of embracing child vaccination, instead of promoting what big bird has to say and other educational opportunities, you have a senator that will continue to try to put fear monger in communities. it is a sad day for america and for texas. >> it's kind of waste of time, but anyway, all right, you guys, alencia johnson, xochitl hinojosa and kurt bardella, thank you so much. saying you're having the best day ever often might be hyperbole but when it includes a $60 million fortune, maybe not. that's next. maybe not that's next. you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner. healthy habits come in all sizes. like little walks. and, getting screened for colon cancer. that's big because when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. hey, cologuard! hi. i'm noninvasive and i detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers, even in early stages. early stages! yep, it's for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider if cologuard is right for you. count me in! me too! at t-mobile for business, unconventional thinking means we count me in! see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. whether it's ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs... keeping crews connected as they help build communities... or providing patients the care they need, even at home. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional customer support and facebook advertising, on us. network. support. value. no trade-offs. unconventional thinking, it's better for business. 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do you have any concerns? >> well, so we're really happy that people are flying. i think people want to get out. they want to see their families. they want to get back together. it's great that children 5 to 11 can start to get vaccinated so people are feeling more confident about all of that. yeah, it's going to be little tough because we had high productivity that was built into our schedules just like every other industry before coronavirus even happened. we likely kept people on the job through the payroll support program from the government that we talked about so much, but people are having a hard time coming to work in this era when they're getting beat up at work, they don't feel like picking up that extra trip like they used to in the past. we're also getting people vaccinated and some people are getting sick, and they're having to use their sick leave. these things are adding to the conditions. the airlines are trying to plan based on people picking up a will the of overtime hours in the past. that's just not the case now. american airlines are providing an incentive and so are others. we really encourage them to do that because financial incentives will help. >> to that point, the faa has gotten over 5,000 unruly passenger reports and that's just this year so far. it's opened more than 900 investigations. i mean, 2021 is on target for the largest complaints of this kind in the history of aviation. you're working, i know, with the faa to try to make some zero tolerance perfect. have you been forced to create new guidelines for flight attendants, things to keep yourselves and passengers safe when they're flying? >> staffing is at minimums and we're trained in deescalation, but there's just fewer of us and more passengers on board than ever before. more conflicts, more people asking questions. it's hard for us to get to those issues soon so that we can deescalate enough. this eats away at people. it's not just the violence. it's a lot of disruptive activity, it's a lot of racial gender and homophobic slurs hurdled at people all day long while they're working. that chips away, makes it very difficult, and morale is really trying rieg right now because it's so hard. >> i'm looking at this one guy who's freaking out, the video we're showing of this guy wearing his mask. how much does this have to do with masks, all the unruly behavior? >> a lot of people have been told that masks are a problem, not a solution, not a help to try to keep us safe during this pandemic, so we're trying to enforce rules that people have been told are violating their

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