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self serving in the way that we make a big deal out. of which i think we are just as much as any other profession. the media for kyle to be about how the polling was in new jersey because it let us all to cram for the wrong thing. right? there was prep improperly in terms of how these things go. and presumably elect those candidate to miss calibrate their campaign. their private polling, was the same as the public polling, which was off in new jersey. >> i was hearing very worrisome sounds from people associated with the mcauliffe campaign. they were very -- >> weeks ago? >> yes they were very, they were worried enough about what was happening. new jersey -- i don't know i wasn't really talking about new jersey. how is it going in new jersey? >> -- but you know the polling averages at the end in virginia showed that it was going to be close with youngkin leading. well, okay, we ended up with a close case with youngkin leading and winning. but in new jersey, you're totally right, it was like double digits in some cases, or high single digits. the polling in new jersey was really. wrong in terms of how it was going to turnout. we don't want the exact margin is going to be would ciattarelli, but we just took a moment with steve, and he's got the drink in my office, he might even take a nap. he doesn't think that there's going to be any chance others going to get up to a 5.6 margin. it's going to be really tight. even when the final results come in, and that just means will hold for a long run. >> i'm going to be going straight to your office, and 11 to see if he passed out with that jug that you told him about. it made me wonder, what do i have in my office for steve kornacki. >> a nanjing or, it feels. like >> -- and it's neckties and he borrowed won 1 million years ago, he's won 1 million ties. >> and this is where you need a diverse pottery of friends. from some you could get liquors, from some you could get clothing. >> exactly. >> but you would never borrow clothing from. >> exactly. thank you rachel. >> thank you lawrence. >> well, as rachel just reported, we do have a projected winner in the election for governor of new jersey and bc has four detected the incumbent democratic governor phil murphy has won reelection there. and as we just said, he is the first time that the democrat has won reelection to the governorship of new jersey since 1977. polls indicated that governor murphy, had a comfortable lead going into the election day. as we were just saying, but, in local television in new jersey, governor murphy was the star in his opponents tv at. >> i would say this, if your one issue voter and tax rates is your issue, either a family or a business. we are probably not your -- [inaudible] >> he actually said, if you are one issue voter and taxes are your issue, then we are probably not your state. i have never heard of politicians say anything like. and virtually, all of the analysis i've heard about last night's elections, no one, no one seems to be blaming the candidates for doing worse than expected. new jersey is one of the most heavily text states in the country, and the people of new jersey know that. for new jersey's governor, ever, he sounds like he doesn't care about the tax burden in new jersey. his political malpractice in the extreme. one sentence said, out loud, can destroy a political campaign. truth is, donald trump and the republican congress raised taxes dramatically in new jersey. the biggest tax increase new jersey tax bases have ever seen. and they did that by eliminating new jersey taxpayers rights to deduct the full amount of their state and local taxes. phil murphy was running against a candidate who was endorsed by the president who did that to new jersey taxpayers. one sentence apparently did fatal damage to terry mcauliffe's campaign for governor in virginia. turn mcauliffe was trying to do something that had never been done before in history, he was a democrat trying to win a second term as governor in virginia as a democrat. state of virginia doesn't like looking at that, or listening to governors for more than four years, and that pretty much never does that. so the state of daniel limits governors to one for your term. they are not allowed to run freely election. but after someone else has served as governor, they can come back and try again. but very few of them do. only one virginia governor has ever succeeded in that quest in 1955. democrat, one in 1973 and he came back after switching parties. and running as a republican when he won the second time. terry mcauliffe has not run for governor of virginia three times and won only one's. but because he was a massive fund-raiser before he became a candidate himself, and then was also a massive fund-raiser as a candidate, he was the democratic candidate for governor once again this year in the state of virginia. and in the final debate. in the middle of a messy back and forth about what books should be allowed in public schools in virginia, terry mcauliffe held his own, very well, and he did a reasonably good job in his response, even got applause at the end of his full response, but in the middle of it, he spoke a sentence on tv that energized the republican campaign. terry mcauliffe said, i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. polls, indicated, that enough parents in virginia disagreed with the to create a surge of support for the republican candidate in the final days of the campaign. if terry mcauliffe did not include that one sentence in his response, in that debate, the outcome of the election might be different. but no one seems to be blaming terry mcauliffe. for losing his election. what if the democrats have a candidate who did not slip up in the middle of the debate. more blame for the outcome of the elections is being assigned to president biden. then to the candidates themselves. >> do you take some responsibility, and do you think that terry mcauliffe would want to -- before election day. >> well, i think that we should -- a path before election day. but i'm not sure that i would be able to have change the number of very conservative folks who turned out in the red districts who are trump voters. but maybe, maybe. >> today virginia's democratic governor tim kaine, did not blame terry mcauliffe for his loss. >> what congressional [inaudible] i mean i'm going to be blunt. it tumbling to say it but, we have been able to deliver infrastructure reconciliation in middle october. he consoled in universal pre-k, affordable childcare, infrastructure, creating jobs. democratic-controlled those attributes [inaudible] [noise] >> leading off our discussion tonight is the founder of a so communications and stored stevens, veteran of five presidential campaigns. he is the author of, it was all a lie. as a republican party game donald trump. stuart stevens, i'm old fashion i actually think the candidate has something to do with the outcome of elections. why isn't there more focus on what each of these democratic candidates for governor did to basically help the other campaign? >> i think these races are going to be overblown for the impact. i look at the successful republican governor races, in all these blue states, your home state of matt should juices, new jersey's, matt to truces, vermont, marilyn, mary hogan. none of those states were followed republican winning by the states going -- governors races are just strange interesting, usually unique set of circumstances, candidate quality really matters, i think that terry mcauliffe's campaign gone out and define glenn youngkin from the very beginning. when he went through this sort of full primary. but because they got into that primary without claiming the support of donald, trump without getting endorsed by donald trump, as defined in from the beginning. the race will ultimately be about something. they allow it to become about the issue dynamic that was unfavorable to him. >> communication is your focus. i wanted your reaction to two things with these two governor said. first of all, governor of new jersey is saying that if you care about taxes that much, you know, vote for someone else and move to another state. and then that sentence that terry mcauliffe spoke about, you know, i don't think parents should be home schooled what to teach. a very simple sentence. he said a lot of other things around. it but that one sentence, jumped out. what should these candidates be saying in situations like that? >> yes, in the mcauliffe case, the child tax thing, even though you presented second, there are roughly 100 things that we could be saying about this intentional and long-standing right-wing grating, third divide in order to conquer strategy that is back again, every single time, it's here in a new form. this time it is the strongman critical race theory what you say is simply -- most of us, no matter where we come from, what are zip code, and what our color, what our kids to be told the honest truth about our history. to reckon the mystic about our past. to understand the president in order to build a better future. but today, a handful of politicians and my opponent here, youngkin, they want to divide us. they want to spin lies about what our teachers are teaching. while they endanger our kids by refusing math, and spreading storm -- stories above. acting -- to defund the school about every single one of our kids need. by standing together, and demanding that our kids deserve the truth of our history so that they can acknowledge where we stand and all they can become. we can make this a place where every single kid has the freedom to learn. you have to call out the other side, not just for what they're doing, but the motivation behind. it >> let me hear what you would say as the incumbent governor as new jersey. to voters who are concerned about their tax burden in new jersey. >> first of, all i wouldn't use the phrase tax burden, because that unwittingly, impeded taxes. -- >> no, i know, i know you wouldn't. but the question right. and so, that is why -- >> sure. >> and i think that was part of terry mcauliffe's problem, is that he found himself in a frame created by others, and he couldn't find the language he should be using to talk about how he sees it. but anyway, assume you got the question about the tax burden in new jersey -- >> i would say, thank you so much for answering that question. i am so thrilled that you want to have a conversation about the way that we pay for the things that every single new jersey needs. whether it is the roads that we drive, on the schools are kids attend, or the toilets that we flush. for far too long we have led a wealthy and powerful few get away with not paying their fair share. it is well past time that billionaires, corporations, pay what they owe. that is where we need to get this from, and that is what i'll do when i'm governor. >> stuart stevens, how much does it matter. what is your analysis of how much those two sentences mattered in those two campaigns? >> you know, in campaigns it's always both sides got to vote. and it's up to the campaign to vote. after governor in new jersey says that. what should've done is just come out and say, let's be honest, the reason the taxes are going, up is as your, saying it's because of this recent trump tax bill that raise taxes in new jersey. my opponent supported it, so let's get real. i wish i paid lower taxes. i wish everybody. did i was against this bill. i think we ought to try to get taxes in new jersey lower. and make it worse fair for everybody to pay their share. >> and -- >> let's just go out. it >> yes, i have to say i was shocked. that the murphy campaign didn't work harder on this problem that was created in washington and in fact some democrats in washington are trying to solve now about the deductibility of state and local taxes. it was an amazing thing. we are going to break it, there stuart stevens, anat shenker-osorio, i thank you both for starting us off, i really appreciated. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and coming up, it was a big night last night for democrats in boston, but it is always a big night for democrats in boston elections, but this one was special. this was something we have never seen before. that's next. that's next. complete hiv treatment for adults who are undetectable. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider once a month. hiv pills aren't on my mind. i love being able to pick up and go. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions post-injection reactions, liver problems,...and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health 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night in her victory speech, she said this. >> one of my sons, ask me the other night, if boys can be elected mayor in boston. they have been, and they will again someday, but not tonight. [applause] on this day, boston elected your mom. because from every corner of our city, boston has focus. >> when i was her son's age growing up in boston, every mayor, was an irish american man. the most recent elected mayor of boston, was irish american marty walsh, who left city hall this year to become joe biden secretary of labor. the president of the city council then became boston's acting mayor, she met today with michelle wu, for the beginning of the handoff, from boston's first woman acting mayor, to the first woman elected mayor, which is also, the handoff, from boston's first black mayor, to boston's first asian american mayor. >> i will share most of that one-on-one, with mayor elect wu. but would i would say, while there are still a lot of challenges facing boston, we've done important work over the last 18 months. there are great people in this building who do incredible work, through all of the difficulty, it is so important to make space for joy. i hope you do love and enjoy the work as much as i. do i'm sure you will. but that you also make space for joy, a time with your kids, other children, things that just bring joy to your life. it's so important as a way to, rejuvenate, and to refresh and be able to do the work. that would be my short and sweet advice. >> joining us now, the boston globe culture columnist and creator of a beautiful resistance, a multi media series for the boston globe. and jermaine lee, msnbc correspondent and host of the podcast, into america, trymaine, the reason that michelle wu's sons wondered if a man can be mayor, is that all of the finalists in this campaign, the strongest running candidates, we're all women, including two black women. running earlier before it was narrowed to two candidates. we've never seen a feel like that for mayor or boston before. >> it's a beautiful moment lawrence. first of all again thank you for so much for having. may we describe the boston of your youth and seeing this long line of way irish catholic mayors, and then to see what happened last, night with michelle's election, but also the entire field. it really reminds us that many things can be true it once, boston has this wild reputation of being one of america's most raises cities, but it also is a city with a non-white majority, and i was there last night and election headquarters for michelle, and to see her standing at that podium, with the american flag behind, her in a group of people in front of that flag, that looked nothing like the stereotypical version of what we think of when we think of boston. and for her to tell that story, her boys looking up at her and wondering if a boy could be mayor. it's amazing, earlier in the day, she said that when she was a young, girl she never saw any reflection of herself in the halls of power, and to see her assume this, to get the handoff from kim, jamie's specially it's a remarkable night. >> kim janey told you, in your article, this is her quote, she said, i never even a magic and i would see a black mayor in my lifetime, in the city of boston. and there she was herself. the first black mayor, serving in the city of boston. >> absolutely. she made history. and michelle wu is making history, and we are in this amazing moment in boston. where we get to have joy in saying we are moving forward. kim was right, we have a long way to go. we are at a tug of war between old boston and the boston that was standing behind michelle wu which despite when american things boston, is that is exactly what boston looks like. boston is not await city. boston is a city that has been in the institution of whiteness. >> what is the, when is the image of racism in boston now, to outsiders? in what is the reality of it compared to the past? >> i mean. is racism here? absolutely. i was racially profiled by as a cutie guard today. it's here in the ways that you can see and feel right away. it's here in systemic ways as far as income gaps, and housing, and equities. racism is definitely here. but the idea that this is the most recent city, and it's the most weight city is just inaccurate. there's a lot of black people here. there's people of color here, as jermaine said it's primarily a people of cuddler city. it's just the power has not reflected the. and with kim janey, in with michelle wu, with rachel rollins, liz miranda, and on and on and on. we're starting to see a shift in which the power actually reflects the community, in my hope is, as those of us who have supported all of these people will hold them accountable, we will see the changes that we have been promised. you know everyone, wants to say there's one city is the most races city. is this america itself is not racist. i don't know that i feel boston is any more races than any other city. but i do feel like it's a city that has poured all of its power into a curricula system, and now are starting to upend that a little bit. >> your reason podcast is all about boston, and it's racial history, and the reality of today. would've been finding? we it's an interesting >> time in black boston in particular. the one thing and i speak to this idea that racism exposes itself in different ways in this city, not like kyler places in america. the wealth gaps, the average black family has average wealth of $8, in the average white family has a quarter million dollars in wealth. that speaks to all the racism. but it's also a story as michelle wu spoke about last night, that boston is a city of revolution. and evolution, and civil rights. in the idea that for a period of time, martin luther king grew up here, but sorted malcolm x. and if there's this long history of jazz in business and activism. that is largely been overshadowed again by some of the well earned a reputation of the busing rides, the white riots of the sixties and seventies in terms of busing black students, there's deep pride here. 25% of boston's, black i think it's a shocking step for most people. this is an incredibly diverse city, but again, we can see the messages of waves supremacy and tribalism, but also, a rising in maturing insurgent kind of community, of progression and diversity. >> thank you both very much for joining us tonight. we >> thank you. thank you. >> you can listen to the latest episode into america, about the experience of black bus stony, and wherever you get your podcasts. coming, up with the united states supreme court allow anyone to carry a concealed handgun, in times square, on new years eve? 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what are we supposed to say? in your opinion, that is going to be clear enough with, that we will not produce the kind of gun related chaos? >> our next guest today, survived the 2018 mass murder at's high school, where the shooter murdered 17 people today, david hogg, said this in front of the supreme court. >> i can tell you how disturbing it is to know what is going to be decided here today. it is very much going to impact whether or not their future survivors with us that we don't even know yet. that is the reality of working for the past four years and seeing this plug that nobody wants to be a part of and continues to grow. >> joining us now is david hogg, cofounder of march for our lives. and we chief counsel at the brady campaign. >> david what was it like for you to be at the supreme court today with the experience that you went through yourself wishing that the judges could understand what it is to be in that kind of line of fire. >> well, what i would say is, what i'm thinking about -- when i judicial advocacy became roads to breach that we committed in this case, all of us, at the time of d.c. versus howler. our judicial advocacy became within the first period -- i was in secondary. we must refused to pass the bonds to another generation. that's what i was thinking about. i don't want to see another young person standing on the supreme court of the united states fighting to end this american epidemic that is a choice. that does not have to continue. jonathan, one of the questions to the lawyer trying to overturn this law was, is it okay for times square on new year's eve, just to be filled with people who have handguns in their pockets. what was some of the key moments for you in this argument today? >> while a number of things. one, the attorneys for new york made clear that history supports the new york law, and that the conservative justices say that they want to apply history texts and tradition for all those things that view in favor of the new york law so that was one point and another was. you had the nra aligned lawyer arguing against the law saying that laws that states where the relax still carry on low crime rate and possible to new york. that's flatly untrue the new york has two, three, five times gun violence than these states that these folks want to. >> david this is one of the situations that the court as the group there ignorance up the real world always comes through in these kinds of arguments about gun laws. >> yes, absolutely. i think one of the important things for the americans to know, is that really since 2008, is that the court actually struck down a gun law. so if we're actually talking about the history of this theory, it's much more into the work court of holding a well regulated militia and common gun law, that the vast majority of american support. i cannot overstate enough the importance of everyday americans -- because the court republic opinion seems to drag this often will help stick take what the justices decides in this case. and, if we make our voices heard because the court gains it's the to the missy from the public icing is as legitimate, we must make our voices heard. and that is why i would make sure everybody to join march for our lives, and join to -- >> there was an exchange with justice political and new york solicitor general barbara would, that clearly identified the two sides of this argument, let's listen to that. >> all these people with illegal guns, they are -- >> excuse me. >> they're walking out on the streets. they are hardworking law-abiding people, they can't be armed. >> the idea of pullover eating arms on the subway is precisely, i think what terrified a great many people. >> jonathan, what was your reaction to that exchange? >> well, he seems to be channeling bernie gets who is gunned down for a young black man in the subway years ago which shows the danger of having guns everywhere and there is this sort of fantasy that people walking around with guns can you know, defeat crime, when my organization is named after tim brady who was walking beside. perhaps the most well protected person on the planet. president reagan, was almost killed. and he was in this heavily armed detail. i mean, that shows you, that guns are not the answer and that we can learn a lesson from that experience. that we need less guns. and stronger gun malls. not more guns. >> david, before you go, i want to ask, i know the audience would want to know, how are you doing? this is four years after you were in the line of fire at parkland, you're in college now. how has your life settled, if it has since then? how are you feeling? what is your -- how are you doing? >> you know, i don't think that i could ever say that i am fairly good, but i am learning to live my life as a student, and doing everything that i can to educate myself more in college and hopefully be on to help become a better advocate for this issue along with my confidence. one thing i will say, lawrence, i care more about how our country is doing, how are public is doing. and i think the reality is, there are people protesting out there today, protesting survivors, simply demanding are right not to be shot or be protected. and those people -- [inaudible] we don't want gun violence to continue in this country. at this point, i would hope that americans could come together, no matter our political ideology, and say, that if you want to advocate for stronger gun laws, if you want to advocate for that, it often happens with gun orders. we need funding for. that go out an advocate for. that we have to work together to address these issues or else, you know, all republicans are going to continue falling apart. as a. has >> david hogg, and jonathan, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you learned. >> thank you. >> coming up, the always brilliant michael eric dyson, he has many stories to tell, and he's telling them in his new book. his new book stereminds her that she has the farmers home policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost. and that her home will be rebuilt, regardless of her limits or if the cost of materials has gone up. 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>> thank you for acknowledging that lawrence. i'm an old style intellectual. i was reared in the old school. you are a thinker who thinks about a lot of stuff. you're curious about the world around you. i did not want to be stuck in specialization. so i wanted to talk about theater. i wanted to speak about photography. i wanted to talk about aesthetics. i wanted to talk about preaching. and i wanted to go as far as my gifts could take me. for me, the performance of black miss in that subtitle, is what i do every day. as an intellectual, as a scholar, as a preacher, as a critic, as citizen. i am trying to perform the best version of black missed that i can conjure. that i have a narrative from people like aretha franklin. her father, in my pastor and my mother, in my family. this is the gift that i have been given, and the burden that rests upon my heart and spirit, is to amplify the deep ancestral ties, of a people who have been searching for a democracy for all these years, in every gift that i can give to my people. and to the world. and to this nation, is what i want to do to be able to perform that black-ness. >> this book is full of admiration for so many people who fully deserve it. and what's fascinating about it is these are people who are admired by millions of people. people like aretha franklin, martin luther king, but you give us a new set of lives to see these people who we think in a way that we know. and about dr. king, you say he is still, the greatest american ever. what's brings you to that conclusion? i've read it, but i want the audience to hear the way that you got there. >> look, this is a man who did not have like abraham lake, and the office of the presidency, he didn't have a secret service guarding him, he spoke his truth with unvarnished honesty, and told america the best of what it was in the best of what it could be, he conjured the metaphor of redemption, as a means to transform this nation, to bring the memory as abraham lincoln spoke about them, in service of radical democracy. a democracy the very view people could imagine. he was a man who is a private citizen, transform the world. when he stood tall, april 4th 1960, eight 6:01 pm, local time, and a bullet rang out, and snuffed his, life cut his time, blew open his jaw, in his blood quickly coagulating, in his comrade, going into the bedroom, extracting a cardboard from a and sweeping the coagulated blood into ajar saying, this is the blood of the prophet, this is what martin luther king junior represents for us, the measure of our decency, the measure of our aspiration, the measure of our frail 80. but finally, the measure of our commitment to true love, and democracy for all human beings. that's why in my mind, he's the greatest american, despite his flaws. his failures and his foils, to ever exist on this soil. >> you acknowledges imperfections as a human being in this book, including little notes about it that i never knew, it's also enlightening, all the way through. professor michael eric dyson, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. we always learn something by reading you in listening to you. professor dyson's new book is called entertaining race. thank you michael very much. >> thank you brother lawrence. >> thank you. tonight's last word is next. tonight's last word is next. tonight's last word is next. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. what is it? 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>> no. >> are you happy that you're able to get it? >> at least it will protect me from the coronavirus. >> and santiago gets tonight's last word, the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again on this night after election night happens to be day 288 of the biden administration, it's as narrow as they get, but the gets the victory and indeed the breaking news over these last few hours is a victory for the democrats and the most densely populated state in our union, and d.c. news among many others projecting new jersey, democratic governor phil murphy will serve a second term after the scare of his political life from republican challenger jack ciattarelli. no democrat has ever won reelection as new jersey governor since brandon burn in 1977 when some of us were seniors in high school. 24 hours ago it appeared that murphy was headed for a loss now a victory by a percentage point. >> thank you for putting your trust in our team for another four years thank you for saying that we need to keep moving forward on our shared journey to a stronger and fair new jersey. in new jersey we know how to make forward work for the middle out and the bottom up and we know how to move forward and accomplish big things. if you want to know what the future looks like folks, come to new jersey. [applause] >> phil murphy tonight, the murphy winds follows a big loss in virginia. a state biden won by ten points. the republican then youngkin defeated the former democratic governor terry mcauliffe. some big reasons, big turnout unforced errors by the mcauliffe are well one campaign by youngkin and the fact that democrats have nothing to show where the voters are concerned for having control of the white house senate in house. >> there are now fears of a bloodbath in 2022. today the president was asked whether the delay in passing his economic agenda led to the democrats defeat in virginia. >> people want us to get things done. it should've passed before election day. but i'm not sure that i would be able to have changed the number of very

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