job. saving the economy from a catastrophic event. i think quite frankly it's hyper critical, dangerous and disgraceful. >> can you guarantee that the u.s. will not reach the debt ceiling that that will not happen? >> no, i can't. that's up to mitch mcconnell. >> here is what else biden said. >> why were you unable, mr. president, to close the deal with members of your own party on key parts of your legislative agenda last week? >> they will close the deal on 99% of my party. two. two people. that's still underway. >> everyone knows who those two are. there is captain joe mansion who herolds from a state that voted for the former president twice and then there is the other center, arizona senator kyrsten sinema, a nominal democrat choosing a democrat for the first time since clinton. you would think sinema for more. the way she's acting you wouldn't be wrong in thinking she seems to be relishing her role as one of the key figures standing in the way of president biden's agenda. the once self-proclaimed aggressive who started out as a green party independent and code pinkactivist is a senator. sinema rarely holds town halls or speaks to the press and dismisses the press core that covers her including by throwing out stupid jokes. the 19th an independent news organization tried a dozen times to get the senator or a staffer on the record to discuss her shifting views, nearly all of these requests were ignored. they did, however, speak to someone familiar with the senator that said she doesn't care what democrats think as independents and crossoverers. why would anyone think otherwise. this is the same senator that refuses to end the filibuster. even though we would pave the way for a voting rights bill that she co-sponsored. her behavior is more confounding when you look back at the glowing profiles written about her in 2016. the arizona republic went to great lengths detailing her hard upbringing complete with food insecurity living three years in a converted gas station with no running water. don't ask her too much about it. the details are elusive. arizona democrats that mobilized and canvassed for her because she thought they would be an advocate feel betrayed that prompted some to follow her into an arizona state bathroom and demand she do something about immigration reform and the build back better agenda. senator sinema said it's the duty to avoid fostering an environment raising the temperature in political rhetoric and creating a permission structure for unacceptable behavior. weird that she didn't think raising the temperature were bad things when she posted this picture of herself on instagram wearing a ring that said f off. joining me now is christina gear and amanda becker, washington correspondent for the 19th. amanda, i'll start with you. this senator won't talk to the 19th. she definitely won't come on this show. we've invited her numerous times. she was recently on an airplane, a daca recipient she was approached in arizona state approached her and asked would she do anything about reconciliation, pathway to citizen ship, she ignored that person, didn't answer. lauren windsor created the under current tv was on the same flight. she went up to her and see many she would respond to questions and she said she doesn't negotiate in public. it doesn't seem like she negotiates in public, private, the white house or anywhere. do you have insights into what is up with this woman? >> you know, i have tried for months to figure out what is up with senator krysten sinema. it's difficult. i went to arizona for a week and talking to dozens of people who have known her, some of them dating back several decades to try to get some sense of what her calculous was in washington right now and what she really sees as kind of her mission and what she's trying to get done. you know, i saw these negotiations looming. the story that you mentioned i wrote back in may. i don't think it's more clear now than it is now what her end game is. there might be private negotiations between her and the white house i will say in washington most things do not stay a secret for very long and we really have in more insight into what kyrsten sinema thinks right now about these negotiations that are happening than we did a month ago or two months before that. >> christina, the thing is she may not like it but because she won't talk to anyone, she went on "the view" one time. she won't do a floor speech, lawrence o'donnell made a good point, she could without the press interrupting her get on the floor of the united states senate and say what her views are. she won't do that. we have to go from what we know and see. she meets with big ticket donors. she chilled with senator cornen voter but she only wants to spend time around her all white donors and rich donors. how else do we decide what she's about than look at that? >> i think she's enjoying the attention, joy, clearly there is no substantive policy she's putting forward but really enjoys the fact that she's keeping all of us in this guessing game. again, as you said, she only likes donors and doesn't want to have legitimate substantive conversations with journalists or colleagues. there are so many democrats that approached her in good faith effort to understand what do you like so we can start a negotiation? we can figure out what our moving place will be and she doesn't know it. she won't say. but i don't think she knows it. i think she's just enjoying this cat and mouse hunt and i'm pretty sure that she realizes when she finally does speak the emperor will have no clothes to understand what she's been dangling in front of the democratic party for so long. >> here is the thing. if you play this game, like mansion you see him sort of doing the same thing. he clearly has a little diva in him because he loves the attention too. you get the sense he wants something specific and he'll keep playing the game until he gets a specific thing. with her, she seems to like to show boat. she released a statement over the weekend just inveighing against the house for holding up her bill as if there are not lots of other bills written by far more senior senators that are also held up. they can't get voting rights through. they can't get police reform through. they can't get -- there's all sorts of bills, immigration reform that's why she's getting followed around and police reform. all of this stuff people have been there longer than her, their bills aren't coming through. what makes her think her bill, because she and like ten republicans or whatever negotiated it is more important than their bills. i don't get it. what are her constituents saying at this point? is this senator going to get primaried? what is happening in arizona? >> i think she'll face a formidable primary opponent. there is a couple groups raising money to fund an eventual primary opponent when she's up. you do not see the same thing happening for senator mark kelly, who is on the ballot again next year. so they're really planning an advance as we watch this play out. i think in terms of what does she want, what is her end game, a couple things are important to remember about her. first, kyrsten sinema is a very junior senator. she's only been around for a few years, and these are -- she's dealing with other people who have been in the senate for sometimes decades. and it's a very different power dynamic in the senate than it is in the house of representatives in terms of how votes are passed and how legislation is made. and another thing to remember about senator krysten sinema is this is the first time in her political career from the very beginning going back to when she was in the state house that she has been in the majority party. so she has always been a minority party legislator in the state house and when she was in the house of representatives. so i think the power dynamic has shifted around her. i'm not sure she's entirely recalibrated kind of where her role is in all of this and, you know, you were comparing her to senator mansion. he's gone through these major negotiations before. he knows how this is done. we are getting top line dollar figures for him. we know where he stands on key pieces of energy and climate that would go into this reconciliation package. he has asked for things such as work requirements for child care and things like that. so, you know, he is actually coming out more and engaging with people and the activists that are approaching him and, you know, it's a very different approach than what we see her doing where she -- people are coming to find her because she's not saying where she stands. >> right and people can -- the person that followed her into the bathroom. if you get followed into the bathroom, you're not talking to anybody and people are desperate to get her to say, tell them anything. this is her approval ratings. they've really tanked. okay? let's just put it that way. she's going, you know, but she's claiming that those aren't her voters. arizona, cnn did a graphic earlier today that showed arizona, the majority of arizona democrats identify as more liberal than moderate and conservative. it's not even close. she's not from a state where the democratic party, you know, lines up with where she says she is like a mansion type of democrat. what makes her think that the same people who are refusing to raise the debt limit, the party that's going to let us literally crash our economy in less than a month represent her voters, her people? >> right. but i think joy, what we have a classic case right here now is that she's not seeing herself as a public servant and has a taste of a donor lifestyle and that's where she is now. amanda's point is valid. after mark kelly goes through his election in 2022, i think the arizona democratic party will probably put up a substantive challenge against her. someone who understands policy and not just understands the layout of what washington d.c. looks like but what arizonians need. obviously, she's from, you know, the state of john mccain who was a maverick. she's clearly trying to do something in that vain obviously working against not just the democrat party but americans at large. i guarantee after the 2022 midterm elections, the democratic party will look for someone that cannot just fall in line but think about policies that will help the citizens of arizona in a way that kyrsten sinema seems to only be looking out for herself and that is a concern she should have. not just about her polling numbers but what certain donors will look at after the 2022 midterm elections. >> i wonder if she'll support raising the debt limit. she's giving marco rubio vibes with this story that you can't quite check all the details on but use it to advance herself to what? what in the world does she want? does she want to be a lobbyist? what is she doing? she's welcome to come on the show and answer because we definitely have questions.amand guys are great. up next. >> we control this country, we got to start acting like it. >> the on going threat from the right with bannon talking about shock troops and a holy war is out in the open now and they are using black candidates to push the toxic agenda and the supreme court returns for a consequential and damaging term. also, how odd is it that facebook went down just hours after a whistle blower accused it of betraying democracy? how the social network helped to fuel the january 6th insurrection. if that insurrection wasn't bad enough two of the biggest agitators are putting america's national security at risk in a different way. they are tonight's absolute worst. "the reidout" continues after this. it's gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. tide hygienic clean free. hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. ♪darling, i, i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪girl, i don't know, i don't know,♪ ♪i don't know why i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪oh no, babe girl, if i could only make you see♪ ♪and make you understand♪ get a dozen double crunch shrimp for $1 with any steak entrée. only at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ got a couple of bogeysrée. on your six, limu.ebee's. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. looks like we're walking, kid. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ wondering what actually goes into your multivitamin? at new chapter, its' innovation, organic ingredients, and fermentation. fermentation? yes. formulated to help you body really truly absorb the natural goodness. new chapter. wellness, well done. . the far right's obsession with power sounds a lot like sunday school gone right with hitler tourists high schoolly wood on the hill. >> the feel a spiritual battle. the only way we take our country back is when strong god fearing patriots decide it is time for us to stand up and so no to your tyranny. we lose this country today. if we bend the knee to the democrats today, our country will be lost forever. >> we have steve bannon saying how one would take over the state and reconstruct it saying you have to have shock troops prepared to take over immediately, give them fire and brimstone. let us be clear, bannon turned breitbart into a propaganda mill to maga-tize brazil, europe and beyond. during his white house chief strategists, we're hearing about deconstructing the state. more and more the republican party is fusing the brand with far right extremists and finding black conservatives who are willing to help them. enter the republican nominee for lieutenant governor in virginia jamaican born form erma rein electrician that loves guns like she loves restricting abortion is speaking alongside bannon at a rally in her state next week. welcome democratic strategists and pollster and malcolm. the idea you tweeted about madison calling for a holy war. he's not to be taken seriously for a political figure but should we take seriously the idea some on the far christian right are talking holy war? >> when i started that tweet, i started it with warning. madison cawthorn should be used as a weather vain. you can see how he picks up on the themes that are not just coming from the steve bannon level and donald trump level but the republican street and that republican street is armed, they're angry with an entire belief that america and that they no longer want the america that the rest of us, the 60% of the country live in and they're willing to take up arms for it on the other hand, when he is saying these things, he also sees himself as a propaganda in waiting, to he can be brought out and will be lifted up by the republican street to being a senator and some other state. they don't care about the effect of those words. if you remove the words from his speech, washington d.c. and christian, you would have the exact same terminology that i found analyzing al qaeda and isis communications. it's almost the same. >> you know, it's white nationalist thinking that bannon is trying to spread. he said he wanted to turn breitbart into the home of the alt right but always manage to find people of color that will go along with it. i'm thinking ally alexander, he is not a christian in that madison setup and you think enrique who is afro latino and leading the proud boys to participate members of it in the january 6th insurrection. so the challenge here is that they are trying to seemingly recruit people from communities of color to be a part of this holy war, i wonder why you think that strategy is being deployed, to make themselves appear to be something other than a white nationalist push? >> yeah, i mean, it doesn't matter, joy, whether they're doing it out of conviction or for the paycheck. some of these people are usual idiots or recruited, radicalized members of the shock troop brigade. the way we have to understand this, after the events of january 6th, if that isn't the moment we have to take assessment of what happened and we're almost nine months removed, none of the instigators held by the fbi and justice department. you have shock troops being charged. i'm talking about the people behind the effort still no accountability. the other problem is a tremendous concern around calling it what it is. the dictionary definition of the word terrorist is someone or groups of people that use the threat of violence or intimidation to try and establish political goals and i look at that madison cawthorn clip and videos that look like they could be stripped from a jihad playbook, it's domestic terrorism and unfortunately, joy, we are in this state where the institutions that are there to protect us from this threat seem to be at least to my judgment either not taking the threat seriously enough or worse, not thinking it's a threat. >> who worries me and a lot of people because the other name for it is fascism and we tend not to associate that with the united states because we think that can't happen here. robert jones talked about this persecution complex growing up within white christian communities where they are told they're under this threat from the rest of society and supreme courts set upright now if they want to to start to deconstruct the rights of non-christians and say there is going to be a special class of rights that will be for their believes and not for others. i worry people aren't paying attention. winston seres who -- can we show her ad? she ran an ad showing herself holding an ar-15. that was her ad to be governor of virginia. she's out here saying yeah, she supports a heart beat bill of virginia. there is extremism in the construct. when you have people like that coming in with what is supposedly a norm core republican of virginia, that worries me. >> it worries me greatly. i just finished a 120,000 word book how the republic is becoming an armed insurgency in the -- absolutely terrifying. i want to point something out here. don't watch donald trump when you're talking about the core hard solid base of extremism in the republican party. he himself is just the wind bag blowing that weather vain. it is steve bannon who is actually organizing this. when he made his statement about being the shock troops, look, he is not taking the hitler brown shirt playbook. he is absolutely fascinated with penito and using the black shirts of the fastest party. they know they are supporting white nationalists goals. they know that by using these terms in a way that there is some proof they can actually get away with calling liberals nazis. it's fascinating. when bannon started a few years ago building the gladiator school for right wing extremist not foot soldiers but political war fighters all over the world, he knew, he knew precisely that he was going to try to create a political base that would not just take power, seize power and have armed support below it. this is very, very, very dangerous. if it was any other country, we'd be putting out critical reports and preparing to do abstracts but this is the united states. you have a base arming themselves and thinking at first opportunity, they will seize power. >> and the thing is, you think of the models they are looking to hungary, brazil, they're -- i mean, bannon is acting in both countries. they are doing c packs in hungary and brazil. this is a global sort of ideology they're trying spread but again, they're fronting themselves with people of color willing to say the same song book and makes it more frightening because there are people willing to front this who, you know, appear they're part of the community and that makes it to me even more frightening. >> what you're describing is the access of autocracy, these groups of people around the world. as malcolm touched on, steve bannon, the reason he's going to these countries is to show it's a global movement with people of different countries aligning themselves in what we know is a bankrupt philosophy but has one clear goal. joy, i'd like to come back because i remember when we would warn, if you will, the american people in the runup to the 2016 election and we weren't profits. we weren't folks that had any particular insight. we were just paying attention to exactly what they were telling us they would do and low and behold they did that and then some. for anybody watching tonight and i know your show is watched by folks all throughout the corridors of power in this country, take this threat seriously, we are under tremendous danger as malcolm eluded to and it's going to get worse. >> absolutely -- >> joy, if i could touch real quickly on the use of african-americans up front. look, what slave patrols went into the field, they brought a slave with them. they need a blackface to go out and trick people into believing that they should come to their side. look, he did the same thing in libya, right. he was out to catch omar and he would bring other libyans out there. these are a blackface on a fastous black shirt. >> we need to take it more seriously. scaring is caring. thank you, my friends, very much. still ahead, nine supreme court justices are back in black at the start of a new term packed with hugely consequential cases. this as the two-thirds conservative high court wrestles with historically low public approval ratings. we'll be right back. w public approval ratings we'll be right back. not last all day? secret works immediately! and is designed to last for up to 48 hours. with secret, keep it fresh. available in over 10 amazing scents and aluminum free. secret with clean, fresh ingredients, panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? yes! heartiness? yes! living life to the flavor-fullest? heck yes. panera. live your yes. now $1 delivery. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ welcome to allstate. ♪ ♪ you already pay for car insurance, ♪ why not take your home along for the ride? ♪ allstate. here, better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. ♪ like you, my hands are everything to me. but i was diagnosed with dupuytren's contracture. and it got to the point where things i took for granted got tougher to do. thought surgery was my only option. turns out i was wrong. so when a hand specialist told me about nonsurgical treatments, it was a total game changer. like you, my hands have a lot more to do. learn more at factsonhand.com today. wealth is your first big investment. like you, my hands have a lot more to do. worth is a partner to help share the load. wealth is saving a little extra. worth is knowing it's never too late to start - or too early. ♪ ♪ wealth helps you retire. worth is knowing why. ♪ ♪ principal. for all it's worth. -capsule! -capsule! -capsule! capsule saves me money on prescriptions. capsule took care of my insurance. capsule delivered my meds to my doorstep. capsule is super safe and secure. get your prescriptions hand delivered for free at capsule.com [swords clashing] - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas, don't thank them too soon. or abdominal discomfort? taking align can help. align contains a quality probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24/7. try align, the pros in digestive health. the first monday in october means the supreme court is back in session and this could be one of the most consequential terms ever. abortion is the number one issue after justices declined to block the texas bounty hunter law last month. this term could be the beginning of the end of the roe v wade with the justices hearing a case from mississippi that directly asking the courts to overturn the ruling protecting america's rights on aworse in recent hearing a gun rights case in a decade and hearing a case on public funding of religious education and the justices could also end affirmative action if they decide to take on a case they delay making a decision on it over the summer. over the weekend, thousands marched in rallies across the country in support of abortion rights with some marching for the first time ever. americans support roe v wade with only 20% saying they would like to see the ruling overturned in a recent poll. and a majority of americans support stricter gun laws saying they'd like the current laws to beless strict. they don't have to care what the american people think quoting a paper that argues supreme court justices are more concerned how they regard elites. joining me is melissa murray, professor of law at nyu and host of a podcast about the supreme court. i'll start with you, ellie. you wrote a piece thisweek that i read thoroughly and you say they have one aim, stop progress. the cases will be argued on conservative terms and decide based on what conservatives think they can get away with and apparently elected democrats are cool with that. the biden administration took the energy and passion out of the base for court reform and sent it off to a communion of law professors to die. i feel like you kind of feel like i do that roe v wade is gone and affirmative action is gone and clearance thomas hates it, hates that he benefitted from it and gun freedom to own a gun is going to be more proliferated. they are going to repeal the 20th century. that's what is happening, right? >> yeah, by the time we get to june you'll have more rights if you own a gun than a uterus. the prediction for this court is pain. like that's what they're bringing. that's what they've been sent to bring, however. let's remember mitch mcconnell did not steal the supreme court for nothing. he got something with that bargain. what he got was the one institution of government that is immune from the popular will. the republican agenda at the supreme court and politically is massively unpopular. let not forget the republicans have lost seven of the last eight presidential elections in terms of popular vote so mcconnell and the republicans turned to the supreme court that is unelected, unaccountable and unrepresentative of the american people to do the things american people don't want to be done like take away women's rights and give rights and end affirmative action and do all the other they thinks. >> and you know, melissa, i'm assuming because, you know, what roe v wade came out, they can't get a tax break for a segregated school. so i'm assuming if they're readdressing issues of whether or not you can give tax breaks to schools based on religious belief, that's going to go, too. there is that sense that they do care about what elites think. what makes them think they can avoid that if they are doing as ellie said, implementing right wing ideas, right wing christian orthodox that the majority of americans don't want. what makes you think they can do that and do they care ultimately? >> i think ellie has it exactly right. the court is by design an institution from the press of popular politics and we've seen this repeatedly over the last four years. i think about john mccain putting his thumb down to maintain the affordable care act and then instead of just letting that ride an expression of the people's will, you saw the republicans immediately file suit in the texas district court to overturn it using the court weaponizing the courts as an instrument of politics. the question is whether the supreme court even cares about that. you know, the idea that the court cares about what elites think may have some purchase because you've seen a bunch of justices hit the circuit over the last couple of days to disclaim the idea that they are partisan hacks or to clear up any misunderstandings about the shadow docket but ultimately, this is a republican conservative super majority designed to achieve certain political ends and they have the votes to do it. it doesn't matter what the elites think. >> yeah, i mean, amy coney barrett did it at the mitch mcconnell center. they're not even pretending not to be a straight political court. i feel like since bush v gore it's been open. they are elites and they're going to try to impose their vision whether we like it or not. the question becomes do we have any power to stop them? because even briar who apparently ain't never going to retire at an event this week and people protesting saying are you going to retire or what? he ain't. if he's willing to go along with the right wing justices, what do we do about it? >> i mean, first of all, democratic party because people have been talking about this court and what it is poised to do for a long time now. this is not come out of the left field but still in democratic party, you don't have a lot of energy among electives. on the ground at the base, you do. among electives you don't have the energy for court reform or court expansion. you don't have the energy for jurisdiction stripping, which is to write the law to say the supreme court can't overturn it. i don't know if that will work but we can try it. there are things worth trying but the main line democratic party and again, this goes back to our old friends joe koch brothers mansion, these democrats won't do what is necessary. jones has a bill that's been supported in the senate by tina smith and ed markey. there are democrats on the right side of this but far too many of them are trying to go and hug lindsey graham instead of fighting lindsey graham for control of the third branch of glove. >> melissa, polls don't mean everything but right now, these are different polls but, you know, the supreme court is polling below the president somewhere just above congress. if they lose the legitimacy that is typically come to the court because it is seen as the non-partisan, the sort of just out of politics branch of government, let's just say that people start to think you know what? that's bullbullshit. they are politicians doing what lindsey graham is doing. what practical legitimacy would they have? what then? >> all the court has is a legitima legitimacy. it's unlike congress and doesn't have the power of the southward. the only thing it has to make us the public compile with its orders, its decisions is this idea that we view it as legitimate. so i don't think it's a coincidence that you see these polling numbers, the lowest in the history of supreme court and you have these four justices hitting the circuit to tell us they are above politics. they know what this means. they know they need the public to believe the court is above the political fray and right now it looks like the court is ideologically captured and they know people recognize that. >> two of six of them are accused of some form of sexual misconduct. beer guy, gorsuch. the legitimacy ain't there. if you tell women they don't have full rights in this country, good luck getting women to compile because people aren't going to keep compiling if they don't believe what you're doing is legitimate. just saying. free advice. thank you. tonight's absolute worst is still ahead putting politics ahead of national security but first a whistle blower calls out facebook saying it's betrayed our democracy. more on the startling accusations, next. on the start accusations, next. if you wake up thinking about the market and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech. for insights on when to buy and sell. and proactive alerts on market events. that's decision tech. only from fidelity. tonight, i'll be eating a buffalo chicken panini with extra hot sauce. tonight, i'll be eating salmon sushi with a japanese jiggly cheesecake. (doorbell rings) jolly good. fire. (horse neighing) elton: nas? yeah? spare a pound? what? you know, bones, shillings, lolly? lolly? bangers and mash? i'm... i'm sorry? i don't have any money. you don't look broke. elton: my rocket is skint! ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no.' everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to... and...when he wants to. so ray...can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us (burke) i've seen this movie before. now you kn(woman) it for free. you have? (burke) sure, this is the part where all is lost and the hero searches for hope. then, a mysterious figure reminds her that she has the farmers home policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost. and that her home will be rebuilt, regardless of her limits or if the cost of materials has gone up. (woman) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. wait, i didn't ruin the ending, did i? (woman) yeah, y-you did. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ what makes new salonpas arthritis gel so good for arthritis pain? salonpas contains the most prescribed topical pain relief ingredient. it's clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. salonpas. it's good medicine. the thing i saw at facebook over and over again, there were conflicts of interest between what was good for the public and what was good for facebook, and facebook over and over again chose to optimize for it's interest making more money. the version of facebook that is us today is tearing our societies apart and causing ethnic violence around the world. >> former product manager at facebook turned whistle blower francis is making public her allegations about the social media giant's role in spreading misinformation on what's shaping up to be a bad week for the tech company. that was crippled by a massive global outage of the sites and apps for millions of users for much of today sharing thousands of documents with the wall street journal and congress, she exposed practices including the own internal research showing it added to political division and contributed to mental health issues in teenagers, especially girls. in the "60 minutes" interview she said for her former employer, it all about profit. >> one of the consequences of how facebook is picking out that content today is it is optimizing for content that gets engagement or reaction but it's own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than other emotions. facebook has realized that if they change the alorithm to be safer, people will spend less time only the site, they'll click on less ads and make less money. facebook over and over again has shown it uses profit over safety. it's subsidizing and paying for its profits with our safety. >> facebook's role in getting the disgraced former president's elected with the efforts and assist he received from russian misinformation. he said facebook reduced misinformation before election day last year but quickly switched course. >> and as soon as the election was over, they turned them back off or change the settings back to what they were before to prioritize growth over safety and that really feels like a betrayal of democracy to me. >> facebook responded in a statement saying quote, every day our teams have to balance protecting the right of billions of people to express themselves openly with the need to keep our platform as safe and positive. we continue to make significant improvements to tackle the spread of misinformation and harmful content and to suggest we encourage the harmful content is not true. tomorrow there will be call for more regulation to facebook. joining me is president of color rashad, great to see you. i want to read you one more thing part of her written testimony for tomorrow's hearing. this is what she says. when we realize tobacco companies are hiding harms, we took action and when we knew cars were safer with seat belts, we took action. i implore you to do the same here. you keep people angry and agitated, you keep them feeling they're constantly under threat from fellow americans and that makes them engage more. the more you do conspiracy theories on masks and conspiracy theories on vaccines, the more people engage. that sounds like a toxic stew during a lockdown, which we had during last year. in your view, what could the government do to treat them more like we did with car companies? >> yeah, i mean, we've done this before in this country and the facts of the matter is an unregulated -- self-regulated company is unregulated. the reason the meat is safe on counters inside grocery stores and the reason why seat belts work in our cars is not because of corporations of instability. we do not have 21est century infrastructure to deal with 21st century problems. right now in the reconciliation bill, there is a billion dollars to the ftc to actually deal with a new level of enforcement. right now we don't have the right level of enforcement and it's not just facebook. it's google and youtube and twitter and all of these companies. the technology that is supported to bring us into the future is dragging us into the past into a path where companies can put their growth and profit over safety, integrity and security. >> you met with mark zuckerberg five times i have here in my notes. the last time in june 2020 and that was shortly before you launched your stop the hate boycott. what did he say? did he seem to understand the power that facebook has over people and even over their mental health? >> i mean, they recognize the power. they have more followers than christianity 2.8 billion users and so to the extent that they understand the power, they understand what they have, so in front of them the incentive structures, joy, is the problem that time and time again when we put policies policies on the ta been inside the room with him with civil rights lawyers, some of the best in the country, where he's argued with them about vote by mail. where he's tried to problematize solutions on the table but not offer real solutions of their own. we've been in conversations where they have claimed they might have to ban groups for breastfeeding women if they ban white nationalist groups. all of these things are at the heart of a company that gets to make its own rules and gets to actually have a level of immunity that no industry gets to have in our country. and so that is actually what's at stage in these conversations on capitol hill, because the fact of the matter is, is that facebook will always find a reason to skirt the rules, to get around the rules. and so right now we need the public, because we will always lose in the back rooms if we do not have people lined up at the front door. more and more people have to stand up and push back to ensure these companies don't continue to put us and our communities in harm's way. >> do you think they should be treated as a utility? >> i do think that they are a utility. i think that's one piece of the puzzle. it's also the fact that instagram, whatsapp and facebook makes it so that facebook has over 70% of the messenger market. that gets us to monopoly type status where today when the company goes down, you have people all around the world who rely on a whatsapp to just stay safe and to be in communication. and we recognize that one person, mark zuckerberg, 60% of the shares. he's chairperson and ceo. he has a company that thinks of itself as a public square. no single person should have that much authority over our democracy, over our economy. we wouldn't allow it in any other industry and we have to stop allowing it now, because that will continue to put us in harm's way. we think about what's going to happen in 2022 in the election, 2024. does anyone trust facebook to have its act together in terms of all the misinformation and disinformation that's going to be on their platform? if you do trust them, then i've got a bridge to sell you. >> i have a headline, this is mark zuckerberg saying trump's inflammatory looting, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. he said that did not violate their facebook policy. i mean that's the kind of thing you're talking about. donald trump and his friends are complaining loudly that they got pushed off twitter, but ultimately that was the one way to reduce the threat of the things that he was saying. do you think that these companies are doing enough just in terms of banning certain individual people or do you think that really they just need to have that regulated and not make that decision themselves? >> well, there's rules on these platforms about what gets you banned. donald trump kept violating those rules. i remember being in a meeting with mark zuckerberg and i said these are the four corners of your policy and donald trump continues to violate them and you call him on the phone and tell him to tone it down that. has to stop. it's two different sets of rules and that is why we need real regulation and real accountability. >> to quote stephanie ruhle, when you have a service that you get to use for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. and people need to understand we are the product when you are using those social media companies products -- social media. thank you very much, really appreciate you. don't go anywhere, tonight's absolute worst is straight ahead. conservatives deliberately putting our national security at risk for the sake of scoring a few political points for themselves. we'll be right back. l points for themselves we'll be right back. ♪girl, i don't know, i don't know,♪ ♪i don't know why i can't get enough of your love babe♪ ♪oh no, babe girl, if i could only make you see♪ ♪and make you understand♪ get a dozen double crunch shrimp for $1 with any steak entrée. only at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. is struggling to manage your type 2 diabetes knocking you wiout of your zone?ée. only at applebee's. lowering your a1c with once-weekly ozempic® can help you get back in it. oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! my zone... lowering my a1c, cv risk, and losing some weight... now, back to the game! ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. in adults also with known heart disease, ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as heart attack, stroke, or death. ozempic® helped me get back in my type 2 diabetes zone. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles. don't take ozempic® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. looking to get back in your type 2 diabetes zone? ask your health care provider today about once-weekly ozempic®. oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! you may pay as little as $25 for a 3-month prescription. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? you got it. ♪ liberty, liberty - liberty, liberty ♪ uh, i'll settle for something i can dance to. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. only comcast business' secure network solutions give you the power of sd-wan and advanced security integrated on our activecore platform so you can control your network from anywhere, anytime. it's network management redefined. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. in the aftermath of the september 11 attacks. the bipartisan 9/11 commission found that one of this country's vulnerabilities is many key national security positions in the bush administration were vacant. only 57% of those were filled on the day of the attack. 20 years later, only 26% of president biden's choices for those same senate confirmed security posts have been filled. so what's the holdup? look no further than these two presidential wannabes wugt their own ambitions ahead of the country's national security. our system of government does not allow any senator to completely block any presidential nominee but it does allow them to slow the process to a near halt, requiring hours of debate on each of the positions. cancun cruz is a long-time obstructer demanding that president biden sanction russia's nord stream 2 project or he will continue to slow roll the nominees. and josh "don't cancel me" hawley vowed to block all security national nominees over the biden administration's handling of getting out of afghanistan, insisting he will not budge unless the secretary of state, secretary of defense and national security advisor all resign. yeah, okay. we've already seen some real world consequences of this obstruction in afghanistan. when the withdrawal began, there was no senate confirmed ambassador to the country. and the senior state department position overseeing that region of asia was also vacant. it's also a problem, the state department is facing all over the globe. can we go ahead and put up that list of all the ambassadors that have been confirmed so far. can we put that up. hold on a second. put up the rest of the list. oh. oh, that's all? oh, okay. so only two ambassadors have been confirmed so far. they can't even approve biden's ambassador to canada. the hypocrisy of these two senators criticizing biden's foreign policy while at the same time kneecapping biden's foreign policy would be astonishing if it wasn't coming from these two who encouraged those who eventually stormed the capitol on january 6th. let's not forget josh hawley showing his support for the maga folks with his fist up. also both of these two losers in the senate, show ponies, were active supporters of a trump administration that attacked the national security establishment in other ways leaving key posts unfilled so power would be concentrated with people whose loyalty was to the donald rather than to the country. remember, key aspects of u.s. foreign policy were left in the hands of people like stephen miller, richard grenell and john ratcliffe. maybe it shouldn't come as any surprise that cruz and hawley are again showboating. it comes at a cost. you don't mess with national security. it's a lesson ted cruz and josh hawley have failed to learn in the 20 years since september 11th, and that's why they are tonight's absolute worst. and that is tonight's "reidout." "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight at "all in" a judge throws the book at a trump rioter. tonight jamie raskin on a big week for the january 6 investigation and the maga world rehabilitation tour. >> you're not working for darth vader but you're a storm trooper. >> that's actually very well said. then specific damning allegations from a facebook whistleblower who says the company is ripping america apart and they can't stop themselves. >> i don't trust that they're willing to actually invest what

Related Keywords

People , Facebook , World , Role , Question , Millions , App , News , Website , Source , Hundreds , The Beat , Countdown , U S , Evening , The Reidout , Set , Joy Reid , 14 , Country , Republican Party , Calamity , Debt , Collapse , Crisis , Recession , 2008 , Power , Kneecapping Biden , Republicans , Debt Limit , Job , Debt Default , Economy , Event , Debt Ceiling , Hyper Critical , Green Party , Mitch Mcconnell , Deal , Parts , Members , Mr , Agenda , Party , Two , Everyone , 99 , Kyrsten Sinema , State , Arizona , Herolds , President , Center , Captain Joe Mansion , Way , More , One , Time , Sinema , You Wouldn T , Figures , Clinton , Press , Town Halls , Code Pinkactivist , Times , Staffer , Views , Core , Record , News Organization , Requests , Jokes , 19 , Someone , Senator , Care , Independents , Filibuster , Doesn T , Crossoverers , Behavior , Voting Rights Bill , Profiles , Arizona Republic , Lengths , 2016 , I Don T , Democrats , Details , Gas Station , Canvassed , Running Water , Food Insecurity , Upbringing , Three , Something , Immigration Reform , Bathroom , Feel , Arizona State , Build , Temperature , Permission Structure , Rhetoric , Duty , Environment , Christina Gear , Things , Amanda Becker , Ring , Washington , Picture , Instagram , 19th , Show , Recipient , Airplane , Daca , Person , Anything , Many , Questions , Reconciliation , Pathway , Flight , Lauren Windsor , Current Tv , Didn T Answer , Citizen Ship , Woman , Public , Anywhere , White House , It Doesn T , Sense , Some , Kind , Dozens , Mission , Calculous , Negotiations , Story , May , Secret , Insight , Game , Anyone , The Thing , Floor Speech , The View , Point , Ticket Donors , United States Senate , Floor , Lawrence O Donnell , Donors , Cornen Voter , Joy , Attention , Policy , All Of Us , Fact , Guessing Game , Look , Effort , Negotiation , Conversations , Colleagues , Journalists , Faith , Place , Cat And Mouse Hunt , Thing , Mansion , Front , Emperor , Clothes , Diva , Bill , Statement , Bills , Senators , Lots , House , Boat , Wall , Police , Voting Rights , Sorts , Reform , Stuff , Constituents , Primaried , Ten , Money , Couple , Primary Opponent , Opponent , Terms , Mark Kelly , End Game , Play , Ballot , Advance , Dealing , Power Dynamic , House Of Representatives , First , Votes , State House , Legislation , Career , Legislator , Dynamic , Energy , Pieces , Child Care , Top Line Dollar Figures , Reconciliation Package , Work Requirements , Climate , Activists , Approach , Anybody , Approval Ratings , Voters , Aren T , Majority , Graphic , Cnn , Mansion Type , Conservative , Classic Case , Election , Arizona Democratic Party , Servant , Donor Lifestyle , Taste , Amanda S , 2022 , Challenge , John Mccain , Looks , What , Layout , Maverick , Elections , Vain , Policies , Polling , Concern , Line , Numbers , Citizens , What In The World , Vibes , Marco Rubio , Lobbyist , Questions Amand Guys , Steve Bannon , Threat , Shock Troops , Holy War , Candidates , Term , Democracy , Whistle Blower , How The Social Network , Toxic Agenda And The Supreme Court Returns , National Security , Caption , Risk , Worst , January 6th Insurrection , Agitators , Insurrection Wasn T Bad , January 6th , 6 , Skin , Safe , Hypoallergenic , Detergent , Tide Hygienic , Love , Babe Girl , Darling , Babe , I Don T Know , Double Crunch Shrimp , Neighborhood , Steak EntrÉe , Good , Applebee S , Eatin , 1 , , Limu Emu , Car Insurance , Liberty Mutual , Limu Ebee S , Bird , Got A Couple Of BogeysrÉe , Woooooooooooooo , Six , Chapter , Helicopter , Kid , Pay , Multivitamin , Fermentation , Ingredients , Goodness , Yes , Innovation , Wellness , Lot , Obsession , Sunday School , Tourists , Patriots , Wood , Battle , The Hill , Hitler , God , Knee , Tyranny , Forever , Propaganda Mill , Brazil , Brimstone , Breitbart , Europe , Maga Tize , Conservatives , Extremists , Chief Strategists , Brand , Beyond , Abortion , Nominee , Lieutenant Governor , Rally , Guns , Virginia Jamaican Born Form Erma Rein Electrician , Idea , Malcolm , Pollster , Strategists , Madison , Figure , Christian , Warning , Tweet , Madison Cawthorn , Level , Donald Trump , Weather , Themes , Belief , Street , Rest , 60 , Hand , Arms , Propaganda , Waiting , Words , They Don T , Effect , Speech , Washington D C And Christian , Thinking , Terminology , Same , Communications , Al Qaeda , Isis , Home , Color , Ally Alexander , Alt , Wasn T , Enrique , Latino , Boys , Madison Setup , Part , Communities , Strategy , Doesn T Matter , Conviction , Paycheck , Shock Troop Brigade , Idiots , Events , Isn T , Instigators , Assessment , None , Nine , Problem , Accountability , State Department , Justice , Dictionary Definition , Fbi , Groups , Violence , Madison Cawthorn Clip , Terrorist , Goals , Word , Intimidation , Jihad Playbook , Terrorism , Videos , Institutions , Judgment , Persecution Complex , Robert Jones , Fascism , Name , Rights , Courts , Class , Society , White Christian , Ad , Governor , Showing , Who , Others , Virginia , Ar 15 , Winston Seres , 15 , Extremism , Heart Beat Bill , Construct , Insurgency , Word Book How The Republic , 120000 , Base , Bag Blowing , Wind , Hitler Brown Shirt , Shirts , Penito , Nationalists , Proof , Liberals Nazis , Wing , Extremist , Gladiator School , All Over The World , War Fighters , Soldiers , Support , Abstracts , Opportunity , Reports , Base Arming , Countries , Models , Acting , Sort , Doing C Packs , Hungary , Spread , Song , Book , Community , Ideology , Reason , Access , Autocracy , Malcolm Touched On , Philosophy , Goal , Movement , We Weren T , Folks , Runup , We Weren T Profits , Corridors , Danger , Slave Patrols , Slave , African Americans , Use , Up Front , The Field , Side , Blackface , Libyans , Trick , Libya , Friends , Nine Supreme Court , Back In Black , Scaring , On A Fastous Black Shirt , Cases , High Court , Works , Scents , Pepperoni , Chicken Sausage , Panera , 10 , 48 , Tech , Chip , Heartiness , Explosion , Windshield , Flatbread , Life , Trust Safelite , Craft , Delivery , Cost , Service , Insurance , Allstate , Farmers Market , Safelite , Singers , Safelite Repair , Ride , Hands , Everything , Option , Dupuytren S Contracture , Wealth , Investment , Game Changer , Hand Specialist , Treatments , Factsonhand Com , Share , Partner , Worth , Extra , Load , Prescriptions , Capsule , Doorstep , Meds , Swords Clashing , Inflammation , Arthritis , Gas , Strength , Kick Pain , Gods , Aspercreme , Quality Probiotic , Health , Taking Align , Discomfort , Pros , Try Align , 24 7 , Issue , Session , Bounty Hunter Law Last Month , Texas , First Monday In October , Hearing A Gun Rights Case , Justices , Ruling , Aworse , Roe V Wade , Mississippi , The Beginning Of End , Affirmative Action , Decision , Funding , Education , Saying , Abortion Rights , Weekend , Poll , Thousands , Americans Don T Want , Rallies , Marching , Summer , 20 , Paper , Gun Laws , Laws , Ellie , Elites , Host , Podcast , Professor Of Law , Melissa Murray , Nyu , Piece Thisweek , Stop Progress , Administration , Law Professors , Communion , Passion , Court Reform , Gun , Freedom , Happening , 20th Century , Court , Spain , Prediction , Uterus , Government , Institution , Will , Nothing , Bargain , Popular Vote , Seven , Unaccountable , Eight , Other , Take Away Women S Rights , Unrepresentative , Issues , Tax Break , Schools , Whether , Tax Breaks , Segregated School , Implementing Right Wing Ideas , Christian Orthodox , Politics , Affordable Care Act , Expression , Thumb , Four , Suit , Instrument , Court Weaponizing The Courts , Texas District Court , People S Will , Circuit , Misunderstandings , Bunch , Docket , Purchase , Hacks , Matter , Super Majority , Ends , Mitch Mcconnell Center , Bush V Gore It , Vision , Ain T , He Ain T , Field , Electives , Ground , Jurisdiction , Court Reform Or Expansion , Law , Joe Koch Brothers Mansion , Main Line , Ed Markey , Tina Smith , Branch , Polls , Lindsey Graham , Control , Fighting , Glove , Legitimacy , Somewhere , Non Partisan , Congress , Politicians , Bullbullshit , Decisions , Southward , Orders , Legitima , Coincidence , Polling Numbers , History , Lowest , Fray , Women , Form , Sexual Misconduct , Luck , Gorsuch , Beer Guy , Doing , Advice , Market , Insights , Decision Tech , Accusations , Start Accusations , Moves , Market Events , Alerts , Fidelity , Buffalo Chicken Panini , Hot Sauce , Lolly , Pound , Eating Salmon Sushi , Fire , Shillings , Elton , Horse Neighing , Rings , Japanese , Jiggly Cheesecake , Nas , Bones , Bangers And Mash , Rocket , Ray , Diabetes , Vacations , Glucose Levels , Mystery , And , A1c , Burke , Movie , Hope , Visit Freestylelibre Us , Hero , Kn , Farmers Home Policy Perk , Limits , Materials , Ending , Farmers Policy Perks , Pa Dum , Bum , Farmers , Y You , Salonpas , Arthritis Pain , Pain Relief Ingredient , Arthritis Gel , Prescription Strength , Medicine , Interest , Conflicts , Allegations , Product Manager , Whistle Blower Francis Is Making Public , Societies , Version , Social Media Giant , Misinformation , Users , Sharing Thousands , Sites , Tech Company , Apps , Documents , Outage , Wall Street Journal , Mental Health , Research , Girls , Interview , Division , Teenagers , Practices , Content , Profit , Consequences , Reaction , Employer , Engagement , Site , Emotions , Alorithm , Integrity , Profits , Ads , Course , Efforts , Russian , Growth , Billions , Quote , Settings , Betrayal , Teams , Platform , Need , Positive , Improvements , Regulation , Hearing , Written Testimony For Tomorrow , Color Rashad , Action , Seat Belts , Cars , Tobacco Companies , Hiding , Conspiracy Theories , Vaccines , Masks , Stew , Car Companies , Facts , View , Lockdown , Company , Grocery Stores , Unregulated , Meat , Reconciliation Bill , Instability , Problems , Corporations , Infrastructure , 21 , Companies , Technology , Enforcement , Ftc , Google , Youtube , A Billion , A Billion Dollars , Mark Zuckerberg , Path , Notes , June 2020 , 2020 , Five , Stop , Hate Boycott , Followers , Incentive Structures , Extent , 2 8 Billion , Solutions , Room , Ta , Mail , Best , Lawyers , Table , Rules , Heart , Breastfeeding Women , Industry , Immunity , Stage , Capitol Hill , In Harm S Way , Door , Rooms , Whatsapp , Utility , Piece , Puzzle , Messenger , 70 , Where , Communication , Monopoly Type Status , All Around The World , We Wouldn T , Shares , Ceo , Chairperson , Authority , Public Square , Act , 2024 , Headline , Trump , Looting , Starts , Looting Starts , Disinformation , Bridge , Twitter , Platforms , Meeting , Phone , Sets , Corners , Social Media , Product , Customer , Quote Stephanie Ruhle , Points , Security , Products , Sake , Don T Go Anywhere , Type 2 Diabetes , Zone , Ée , 2 , Don T Take Ozempic , Weight , Oh , Cv Risk , Adults , Heart Disease , 7 , 12 , Type 1 Diabetes , Type 2 Diabetes Zone , Stroke , Heart Attack , Death , Pens , Reuse , Stomach Pain , Lump , Medullary Thyroid Cancer , Stop Ozempic , Needles , Family , Endocrine Neoplasia Syndrome , Help , Swelling , Neck , Side Effects , Insulin , Vision Problems , Kidney Problems , Blood Sugar Risk , Changes , Pancreatitis , Sulfonylurea , Dehydration , Diarrhea , Nausea , Vomiting , Provider , Prescription , Health Care Provider , Dj , 3 , 25 , 5 , Liberty , Customization , Throwback , Liberty Uh , Guests , Activecore Platform , Network Solutions , Devices , Cyberthreat , Comcast Business , Sd Wan , 1200 , Big Day , Network , Business , Network Management , Business Powering Possibilities , Attacks , Aftermath , September 11 , 9 11 , 11 , Positions , 57 , Vulnerabilities , Security Posts , Choices , 57 , 26 , System , Holdup , Ambitions , Wugt , Obstructer , Each , Halt , Debate , Process , Nord Stream 2 , Cancun Cruz , Russia , Nominees , Josh Hawley , Handling , Project , Josh Hawley Have , Afghanistan , Don T Cancel Me , Ambassador , Secretary Of State , Secretary Of Defense , National Security Advisor , Obstruction , Withdrawal , Ambassadors , List , Position , Region , Globe , Asia , Hypocrisy , Second , Canada , Foreign Policy , Capitol On January 6th , Supporters , Fist Up , Both , Losers , Show Ponies , Establishment , U S Foreign Policy , Loyalty , Ways , Unfilled , Stephen Miller , Richard Grenell , Aspects , Shouldn T , Ted Cruz , Surprise , Lesson , Don T Mess With National Security , John Ratcliffe , All In With Chris Hayes , September 11th , Judge , Investigation , Big Week , Maga World Rehabilitation Tour , Trump Rioter , Jamie Raskin , Darth Vader , January 6 , Trust , Whistleblower , Storm Trooper ,