and the fbi said the pipe bombs that were found outside the capitol were actually planted the night before, confirmed as you see in this surveillance video obtained by the "washington post." but even as capitol police push to erect permanent fencing to protect the capitol, remember that some of the threat is coming from right inside the house. >> we will probably need a supplemental for more security for members when the enemy is within the house of representatives. a threat that members are concerned about. >> what exactly did you mean that the enemy is within? >> it means we have members of congress who want to bring guns on floor and have threatened violence on other members of congress. >> did you hear that? imagine showing up to work where you don't feel safe. let that sink in. democrats in congress are not physically safe from their colleagues across the aisle. these threats all go back to the source. the disinformation campaign of donald trump, which was such ported by dozens of lawmakers including their leaders who still have not even attempted to right their wrong, surprise, surprise, and all of this is happening while more and more of the american people decline further into poverty awaiting covid relief. ladies and gentlemen, i dare say we are a nation in crisis. joining me to talk about this more, congressman tim ryne from ohio, my neck of the woods. congressman, i'm so happy to have you with me this morning. first i want to start with this domestic terror threat. do you feel safe working in capitol hill right now? >> well, i mean no. i mean there's fencing, a war zone created around the office. i interred on capitol hill when i was 21 years old. it's changed a lot. when you look at those videos and think that's the united states, that's not beirut or kabul or some other far-flung place from the united states, that's our home country, that's our capitol. there are a lot of members of congress -- [ indiscernible ] >> we're having a little trouble with your audio. i hope you can hear me. i hear you fine. >> okay. >> i do want to ask you. i am curious to know, if there was a department of homeland security and a domestic terror threat that existed 100 years ago in 1919 during what we call the red summer, i imagine we would be on high alert. i have to say particularly to the black community, this terror is nothing new. with that, focusing specifically on your colleague, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, given that she has ties to white supremacists, given that she's perpetuated these qanon theorys, what do you think should happen to her in the house? >> well, the rules of the house are very unique for expulsion because it needs to be around something you've done while you're a member of congress. and so we need to look at exactly what she's done. completely repugnant, a lot of the stuff she had done. what she did there with mr. hogg after parkland makes you sick to your stomach to think someone would try to perpetuate some kind of conspiracy around the tragedies at parkland, and so we're going to have to deal with it. i think the violation of not going through the metal detectors, you know, we're a family in the united states. members of congress, even democrats and republicans, we're supposed to be collegial, we're supposed to get along, try to find agreement. when you can't walk through a metal detector after what happened on january 6th, just to make sure that everybody in your workplace feels safe, you know, that's not too much to ask. [ indiscernible ] >> it's being selfish. it's just an act of selfishness to not be connected to others like that, so we're -- and i think -- other people to make congress operate in a way that everybody is respected that are -- quite frankly. >> so i have to tell you, i mean i've been covering capitol hill for a while, and knowing the type of information that, you know, transpires on capitol hill, i don't know that i would say congress is a family. there's been a lot of discord certainly since the obama administration. >> dysfunctional. >> that i do know about. fair point. but i will say that i think with the congresswoman, the fact h she has access to certain information, she's been given this sweet spot on the health committee, labor committee, and the house, i mean, it makes me a little concerned. i started out by asking you if you feel safe, but i think the bigger question is should the american people feel safe that somebody like this has access to sensitive information that has been given this committee post that's, quite frankly, highly coveted. >> yeah. you know, we're operating in a state of fight or flight, you know. the entire country, high levels of anxiety, high levels of stress on all fronts from what's happening to our government to the health care crisis with the pandemic and the health care crisis before the pandemic, the economic crisis, so i think we have to look very closely. i don't want to say one way or the other, but i think you're right to bring this up. we have to look at it. the speaker's very concerned about it. i'm very concerned about it. and we're in uncharted waters here, so, you know, we're used to this when we travel to iraq and they're trying to assemble the parliament or, you know, in afghanistan, and some people who end up getting elected are from a terrorist organization and everyone else in the parliament is worried about those people who may want to have violence. and this is the first time we've really had to deal with this within. and so, you know, we've got to be very, very careful in how we do it. >> i have to say, hearing you say that, comparing our democracy to foreign countries, i mean, look, this is where we are at this point. there was the young woman who was arrested who was accused of trying to sell nancy pelosi's laptop to the russians, when that's your crew, you know, that's the people you ride with, that's who marjorie taylor greene, you know, her crew, i just have to wonder, you know, having the enemy from within, i don't even know if there's a historical precedent. what is the recourse when the enemy is right inside the house of congress? so i'm just really curious. do you have any idea given your position in congress what exactly should happen when there are people who are violating the constitution, who are anti-american under the guise of their own belief system perpetuating these ridiculous conspiracy theories? i don't understand what happens next. >> well, this is the first time we've had to get our arms around it. this whole thing, hawley, cruz, mccarthy, these others who embolden the big lie on the election, that's all from within, too, and to encourage the crowd as the president and giuliani did. that's all part of the insurrection as well. look what they were trying to do. they were trying to disenfranchise americans, particularly disenfranchise african-american voters in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin, to say their votes don't matter. that's what's at the heart of this when you tie it to the white supremacy -- that's what's wrong. every single act was from within, and by elected officials. quite frankly, tiffany, they knew better. >> yeah. >> they were trying to score political points. you can't tell me that hawley and cruz who attended the best schools this country has to offer, the best law schools, are going to believe some bull crap about fraud after 60 different cases went into the appeals court and everything else. give me a break. these are the biggest bunch of phonies you'd ever want to meet in life, going out, putting their hands up with the crowd. they're try fog score political points, feeding off of president trump's success, and connecting with that base of support. go out and get your own votes, you know? you have to suck onto president trump's supporters and pander to them to get your own political career jump started. it's sickening they would sacrifice the votes of millions of people, millions of african-american people, insurrection, violations of the law and all the rest for their own political career. that's how crass they operate. >> let me ask you. senator rob portman said he's not going to seek re-election. i've been covering it a long time. i know the game. i'm thinking about it. all signs point that you might throw your hat in the senate race. when you ran for president, your appeal was, hey, i'm the guy, i can appeal to trump supporters and i think a lot of people are like, hey, i'm a democrat, tell me how you can appeal to blue voters. is that still your appeal to the voters of ohio that you can win over these trump supporters, particularly given who we see comprise the trump base at this point? >> well, tiffany, set aside the violence, racism, anti-semitism, obviously i don't want anybody's vote that does that, but trump won ohio by eight points. so if we're going to win a place like ohio, we've got to figure out how to move to the middle a little bit and get some of those voters, or we're not going to be able to win a senate seat, and also there's a governor's seat up here. to me, tiffany, it's always been about economic. whether you're white, black, brown, those bread-and-butter issues are really important, and those are the things we talk about. i think when democrats talk about those things, we can win anywhere. that's why we're looking closely at it and continuing conversations around the state and the country to try to see what this looks like. >> i'm running out of time, but i want to ask you one more question. look, i've known you a long time. you have a lot of close friends in congress. you used to hold court at ruth's chris and i remember those evenings. i do want to ask. there are no black women in the senate. they're increasingly older and whiter. what do you say to those you're trying to win over, those contrary to communities of color. why does the senate need another white guy in the upper chamber? >> if you look at my record, it's based on who you're advocating for, issues around mortality, african-american women and their health, especially around pregnancy and loss of life during pregnancy, these are issues i've been fighting for for a long time. civil rights, voting rights in places like ohio. these are issues that are deeply embedded in my heart and i've been fighting for for a long time, and i think you can ask my closest friends, kendrick meek, martha fudge, the late stephanie jones who used to call me her white son and joyce beatty who's now 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"washington post" reports that trump is considering creating a third party to seek revenge upon all the republicans who couldn't provide him with the blind devotion he's convinced he deserves. but trump may not even need a third party. given the cnn report that his daughter ivanka is eyeing a run for office am his former press secretary sarah huckabee sanders announced a run for arkansas governor, it's clear that even though trump is out of the white house, trumpism still rules the gop. joining me now is anthony scaramucci, former white house communications director and founder of sky bridge capitol and nathan gonzalez, my old colleague, editor and publisher of "inside elections." anthony, i do want to start with you here. honestly for all intents and purposes if we look at a collection of sound bites for you, you were radicalized. and i want to learn how you became unradicalized. let's start with sound from you. >> he's a hack politician. i'll tell you who he's going to be president of, you can tell trump i said it. queen county's bully association. >> i love the president and i'm very, very loyal to the president and i love the mission that the president has. he's genuinely a wonderful human being. >> so, anthony, we just saw that. i have not been quiet about the fact that i don't want to be part of this effort to sanitize people who rocked really hard with trump and then thought better of it later, but because as we just saw you appear to have been radicalized by the maga party, i'm curious about what's your advice on how we radicalize people who drank the kool-aid, so to speak? >> tiffany, first of all, i wasn't radicalized. i was a standard garden variety republican and many got trapped in the same dilemma i was in. so i was not radicalized. i think you're making a mistake about the whole sanitization thing. you've got 74 million people who voted for mr. trump and not all of them are hard core maga people. there are probably 40 million or 50 million people we can create an off ramp for so we can unite and heal the direction. if you go into that area with a high sane timon yum or moral righteousness. >> i don't know if it's high sanity moan yum or -- let me say -- >> you're going to talk over me. go ahead. i listened to you speak. you're not going to let me speak. go ahead. >> no. you'll have opportunity to speak. i know you love the camera. i think there is a lot of people -- you know, there's this desire to want to sanitize people who rock with this president, but quite truthfully, we always knew who dew point was. he was very clear about that on the campaign trail. this is someone you still opted to align yourself with. you still opted to go out and advocate with him. you still opted to join the administration. so you still say you weren't radicalized? >> i thought something wrong about mr. trump. i thought at age 70 he was going to be a post part san politician. i got that wrong. i told my kids if you get something wrong, admit it. it's okay to get something wrong. it's not okay to stay wrong. two years ago i said there's something wrong with the guy and for 24 months i worked very hard in making sure he did not get re-elected. i like the camera almost as much as you like the camera and i went out and did tremendous amounts of media advocacy against him and we built a coalition that defeated him. so i'm not exactly sure where you're coming from on this. what do you want to do with these people, the 74 million people that voted for mr. trump? would you like to hide them off in the country, ship them off to the atlantic ocean? what would you like do with them, tiffany? >> yeah. i think this is really important that we have very honest conversations about where we are as a country, and, quite frankly, trump never hid his misogyny, his racism, his xenophobia. so it's also interesting to me when people try to sanitize folks such as yourself -- >> are you trying to sabotage me or --? >> i'm certainly not trying to sanitize you. i want to give you an opportunity to figure out why -- i want to give you the opportunity because you did seem like you were radicalized. it wasn't a secret about who he was. but i do want to turn to you, nathan. >> no, no. i'm asking you a question. answer the question. >> when you get a show, invite me on and i'll happily answer your questions. but i want to talk about these actual races because i think it's important if ivanka has a chance to win in florida, if sarah huckabee sanders has a chance to win in arkansas. nathan, i want to turn to you on that. as we look at the landscape, it is quite frightening like anthony points out. there was over 74 million people who voted for this president knowing full well who he was. do you think that the maga party has a chance to basically take over the republican party, which nay've already done but sent some of these maga accolades to congress? >> i think we have to remember that president trump is still the most popular politician within the republican party or among republican-based voters, and that's where he's still wielding his influence, and that's where he has the opportunity to wield influence within primaries. when we're talking about sarah huckabee sanders and ivanka, they're two very different races. huckabee sanders running for governor in arkansas, it's going to be a competitive primary. the lieutenant governor, tim griffin, a former member of congress along with attorney general jessica rutledge. this is a race where it's basically a race. president trump won arkansas by 27 points and so if you win the republican nomination, you're essentially going to win the general election, and sarah huckabee sanders has a great chance. she not only has the -- she's close with the president. but she also has name i.d. you know her father was in the state office. she has a lot going with her. what i see with her and potentially ivanka, how do they do as candidates? running for office is not easy. how do they make that transformation? ivanka running against marco rubio in florida in a primary, that was a very difficult race. i went back and looked, and only eight senators have lost in the primary in the last 40 years. half of those were senators who weren't even paying attention, and senator rubio is paying attention to his race some of that is a much different type of race, and i'm interested in seeing whether she really wants to do it. running for office is a slog. it's not easy. >> you brought up the bible tweeter, senator marco rubio. i think it's interesting he's been making these appeals, right? like he tweets out these statements that appear to be overly supportive of trump that i read please don't hurt me, trump. he's wreaking of lord bolton at this point. it's not just ivan kachlt you also have nikki haley, you know, who may be looking at a 2024 run do. you think this senate map as it is right now, do you think there are people who will leapfrog over that to 2024? nathan, that's to you. >> yeah, certainly. there are senators not up for re-election. nikki haley is not an ambassador and she's not going to challenge tim scott who is up for re-election in 2022. you have lots of aspiring politicians who have their eye on different things, and my question is how relevant or how influential is president trump in two years and in four years? we know what is the situation now, but what is it going to be like? i'm not convinced he's going to have the exact same influence now as when we get down the line. i'll add that this senate trial, the impeachment trial, and whether republicans convict him and bar him from future office is important because president trump is using the republican party as a vehicle to get where he wants to go. if he can't run for office, i don't know what use the republican party is for him anymore and i don't know what the next chapter then is if he can't use -- if he can't run again. >> yeah. so, anthony, let me ask you. where does the maga party go from here? >> well, you know, i'm hoping that we can put a dent in the maga party and disintegrate it. i'm hoping we can put a dent in morally righteous media nonsense because we need to disintegrate that as well and we've got to get back into the center and unify as a country and start working on policies that are right for america as opposed to left or right for america. and so i'll be continuing to work on that. and if mr. trump can't run again, i do agree with nathan, he'll drop this very quickly because it's always been about his personal self-interest. >> interesting. thank you so much. to my old colleague, nathan gonzalez, we started our careers together 20 years ago at cnn. so great to have you on your show. anthony scaramucci, i have no doubt you'll show up on the tv screen again soon. thank you for making time. >> thank you for joining me at home. up next, it's one of the buzziest words and what does it mean? don't worry. we'll make it make sense. mean don't worry. we'll make it 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the filibuster? i know that its inception and application have been steeped in racism, but i'm wondering if you can sort of talk about that history and how it's been applied, what changes we've seen in recent years, sort of -- i think it's kind of been chipped away at, and how it's a part of the current negotiations between schumer and mcconnell. >> thank you, dr. jacki, for this timely question and for your important framing. okay. so first things first. what is the filibuster? as you know, you need 51 votes, a simple majority, to pass legislation in the senate. so if you're a senator who doesn't like a bill but you're in the minority, one of the only things you can do is try to delay that vote, and that's where the filibuster comes in. in the senate, there's no limit to how long senators can speak, so traditionally a filibuster has involved a senator or a group of senators speaking non-stop, refusing to allow the debate to end so the senate can vote. the rules that allow filibustering have been around pretty much since the beginning of the senate, and filibustering was used a ton in the mid and late 1800s, in the south to make sure black americans were allowed to vote. eventually in 1917, the senate was able to sort of rein things in to enter a closure vote. it's to stop debating and move on to actually voting on the bill itself. it short circuits a filibuster essentially. the trick is it takes 60 votes to invoke culture, which means it doesn't really take 51 votes to pass legislation in the senate. it takes 60. they don't even actually have to filibuster anymore. they don't have to stand on the floor reading green eggs and ham for hours. okay, so let's get to the racism part of it. look. everything in this country's govern nance has its roots in racism. this country was built on the enslaved and stolen land. the filibuster itself was not created specifically as a tool of racism, but it has certainly been used famously to stop progressives -- progress, i should say, on civil rights. not only was it used to stop the feds from protecting black voters in the reconstructed south. the filibuster today remains with strom thurman. after his death it was revealed he fathered a black child with his maid working in his father's home. yeah, that guy, but i digress. historians point to the successful filibuster to a federal anti-lynching law in 1918 as a reason such a law was doomed for 200 years and counting. the filibuster and accompanying 60-vote threshold for ending debates is a powerful tool now in the hands of minority leader mitch mcconnell who has already made clear he'll wield indiscriminately to cut down the agenda of president biden and congressional democrats. the majority that americans voted for by the way. that's why the self-styled grim reaper has been so desperate and thirsty to secure a promise that democrats won't nuke the filibuster altogether. it's one of the few veto power his haes left to send legislative bills to his graveyard. for now the filibuster is safe. all 50 democrats would have to be on board to getting rid of it, and two of them have assured mcconnell they are not. so dr. jacki, thanks again nr this timely question. something tells me it's one we'll think about for a while. to everyone else at home, i'm so loving your video questions. they're the best part of my week looking through all of them. please keep them coming. let's open the camera phone and go from your phone screen to the big screen. you can send it to me and my producers #asktiffany or send an email to cross connection@nbc uni.com. we can at least try to make it make sense. don't go anywhere. my one-on-one interview with senator elizabeth warren. we'll talk about economic help for millions of you who need it and so much more. up next, president biden puts racial divide front and center. you don't want to miss this. stay tuned. u don't want to miss. stay tuned hi. thanks, dad. sure. sure. y-you didn't spin it, did you? you asked me not to. switch to progressive, and you can save hundreds. you know, like the sign says. go get 'em, buddy. the president has committed the whole of our government to advancing racial justice and equity for all americans, will hold the federal government accountable for advancing equity for families across america. i have the support of every white house office and every agency in this work because as president biden has made clear, advancing equity is everybody's job. >> president biden this week signed four executive orders, which encompass tackling racism and discrimination in our federal housing policies, ending the justice department's preverse relationship with private and for-profit prisons, fight xenophobia, and just not saying but showing the federal government is committed to this neigh's indigenous people and their right to tribal sovereignty. now, changing the law is easier than changing hearts and minds, we all know this. but improving the lived experiences of america's most marginalized can only make for a better and more equitable society for all. joining me to talk about all of this is jaffe ross, co-host of the podcast "break dances with wolves," my friend madelyn melky, tan zena vega. so happy to have her on my show, and, of course, who i had to track down publicly to make sure he was here this morning, dr. jason johnson, professor at morgan state university and msnbc political contributor. jason, i'm going to start with you on this one, my friend, because you and i talk about this offline all the time, but this executive order, i mean it, quite frankly, does a lot. the administration has pledged to work with congress on legislation to increase funding where you teach and where i attended, for triple funding for title 1 schools, low income students. biden said he was reversing the trump order that banned government agencies or would ban agencies. and rescind the report in response to our friend nikole hannah-jones who had all the with white supremacists mad about it. did this e.o. go far enough and what do you want to see happen? >> first off, i'm surprised, and i'm legitimately surprised joe biden came out of the box like this. i'm impressed. it seems to me he actually is interested in initiating these changes. as i mentioned, this is not like trump when he got rid of the silly 619 project. this goes further in changing the face and workings of the government. to that particular end, i'm happy. but what i'm always concerned about with these kinds of executive orders, what i'm always concerned about when we have conversations on equity and evaluating every agency on racial discrimination and things like that, where is the enforcement going to come from because that's what really matters. we have tons of laws on the books already in america saying it's illegal to discriminate somebody because of the color of their skin. we have laws on books that it's illegal to discriminate somebody because of their religion or hair. so if these executive orders are followed up by legislation or additional executive orders that give government agencies the ability to suspend or remove people who repeatedly refuse to engage or follow with these new executive orders, then i'll be happy. but until that happens, these are just suggestions. they're good suggestions, they're meaningful suggestions, but until they have consequences with them, we really haven't made much progress. >> all right. we'll talk about that. we're going to talk with one of the exonerated five in the next half hour. we have to talk about policing, which was not forceful in this executive order but certainly something the administration is going to focus on. immigration is a huge issue. it's not the only issue. housing is a problem. policing is a problem in the latino community. what's your thoughts on this executive order? >> i think what joe biden understands now is he has a mandate from communities of color. black and latino voters in particular turned out for this president in big waves, and i think what joe biden is trying to do, it's not just about undoing what the trump administration did. he's attempting to correct the historical inequities that have existed for black and brown people in this country, and that's not an easy thing do. i think obviously immigration is a big part of this. joe biden is going to have to reckon with the fact that he was vice president under president barack obama who then he called the deporter in chief for the number of people he deported from this country. but we also have to make sure we look at two areas that are really important to latinos today, which are health and wealth. latinos are becoming one of the largest groups affected by covid-19. if we look at los angeles today, there are intense spikes in deaths of latino americans. joe biden has aed by task ahead. what is really the path to citizenship that he's offering to people? what is he looking at in terms of skilled versus non-skilled labor? all of those questions remain to be answered. >> well, i think we'll be getting some of the answers to those questions in the coming weeks. we'll certainly keep covering them here. this bind administration executive order does speak directly to tribal communities. i know this is something you focus on a lot not only as a lawyer but as the host of your podcast. do you think this is the first step in improving the relationship that the federal government has with the tribal communities and what other issues are plaguing americans across the country that you would like to see this administration address? >> good morning, tiffany. good morning, panel. let's start off with the compliment sandwich. of course, the biden administration is starting off substantially better than the trump administration. easy. salute. at the same time, i want to address a little bit about the terminology because we love to throw these words around justice and equity. we have to be clear and honest. this is not equity, and this is not justice because there are active harms that are still happening, and on the cusp of black history month, it seems appropriate to quote malcolm x. if you stick a knife in my back 6 inches and it's 9 inches, that's not pulling it out of my knife. mass incarceration, a couple of inches, that's not progress an certainly not equity, it's harm reduction. these executive orders, i'm a criminal defense lawyer, i work with people to avoid the prison industrial complex brown and black folks every single day. of course i'm glad he ordered the doj not to renew contracts with private prisons but why is the federal government still relying on privately run detention centers for folks who come across the border? that is not equity. that's not justice. similarly canceling the xl keystone pipeline, cool. but if we want too talk about equity and heal egg the knife wound, we have to talk about accessing the dakota pipeline, give the native people land back. it's all stolen. given back folks reparations and then we talk about equity. until then it's harm reduction. >> i think you make so many great points. every time you're off i get so many tweets and emails about your appearances. thank you for putting that into perspective for us. madelyne, i want too turn to you because this did speak directly to the asian american community and some of the attacks the community secretary of defense after the previous president frequently referred to covid-19 as the china virus. but that's not the only issue impacting asian american pacific islanders. what are your thoughts on this executive order? >>le well, thank you for having me. i would say the biden administration started off on a positive note having this executive action. just for historical context, new york congresswoman grace yang, along with her colleagues and the diplomats of the american caucus and with leadership, also former congressional black caucus chair representative karen bass, ushered in resolution to combat covid-19 hate crimes as well as covid-19 language access. these are things that have been addressed on a congressional level through a resolution. so having this white house amplify that is incredible because of all of the work that the congressional leaders have done to recognize the challenges that the api you c has been having since the start of the pandemic. you're looking at constituencies in the community who are feeling higher infection and mortality rates, specifically the pacific islander community. you're looking at women who have been unemployed more than six months. there are a myriad of issues that are covid-19 related not just due to racism and xenophobia but also to the ravages of the covid-19 disease itself. so there are different ways that this executive order is looking to address those issues but i think we need more data desegregation, and we also need an opportunity for the biden administration to talk to the asian-pacific american caucus as well as community leader advocate and having this demographic people the largest and fastest-growing in the country, we really need some relief and finding solutions. >> i think madelyne makes a good point. one thing that i think is common with the aepi community and latino community is the need to disaggregate the data. like there's a big umbrella that falls under both these monikers of aa pxtz i and latino. what advice would you offer to the administration when it comes to addressing these issues through the lens of deaggregating under the latino name? >> i think there are multitude things that need to happen. and this is something we are struggling with for more than a decade now, how to define latino asians who are given two races, race and ethnicity. it shows the lack of understanding of the racial and ethnic diversity within the latino communities. we have to remember we talk a lot about immigration. we don't talk as much about puerto rico, which is a colony of the united states, which has millions of people disenfranchised who cannot vote for representation and yet belong to the united states. joe biden will have to reconcile the united states' relationship with puerto rico, particularly following the economic crisis with maria and everything else. the diversity of the latino community is often hidden behind things like immigration when we have a lack of real understanding about who we're talking about. >> yes. thank you so much for the entire panel. deossie ross, and jason, can you go live with me after this show? i'm putting you on the spot. yes or not. yes is the only answer. >> apparently, i don't have a choice, so yes. >> i will see you at noon on instagram live so we can finish this conversation. you are all were great. thank you very much. you represent the rising majority in america. i appreciate it. don't go anywhere at home. democrats prepare to go big and bold on economic relief. my one on one with senator elizabeth warren. she joins 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and congressional democrats are finally gearing up to pass the next round of covid relief as soon as next week. that's $1.9 trillion worth to be exact, essentially telling the gop to fall in line or make life ludicrous and move mitch oupt of the way. they can bypass the 60-vote rule with the simple majority of 61 but only if they stay unified and vote as a bloc of one. but only if they stay unified, looking at you joe manten. with their regularly class back, they're back to hand ringing about deficits and debts asking we can ever possibly afford to help millions of tax paying americans by giving them their own money so they don't have to rely on on food banks to feed their families and gofundmes to pay their rent. one senator said she has an answer, 2 cent tax on earners in the nation's top bracket. seeing how the pandemic made american billionaires over a trillion dollars richer in the last year, some tend to think it's the least they can do. i'm so excited to say that joining me now is massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. senator, i'm so excited to have you on the show this morning. thank you for joining me. i know we don't have a lot of time so i do want to get right to it and ask you the first question. i know we're going to get into filibuster but i do want to ask your colleague in the lower chamber from across the aisle, congress p congresswoman marjorie taylor greene met with donald trump and she tweeted about it. she said she a great call with her all-time favorite potus and she's grateful for his support and people across the country are 100% loyal to him. given what we've seen come out of the former president, i do want to ask you first, senator, do you feel safe working on capitol hill? >> i am very worried about what's going on, not just on capitol hill but all across this nation. the conspiracy theorists, the white supremacists, the people who are trying to stir up and foemt revolution and violence. what deeply troubles me is the republican elected officials who are not out there denouncing it, or not separating themselves, but instead are quiet on the subject or actively trying to bring these people in. senate republicans need to step up. they've can step up right now by voting in favor of coronavirus relief. >> well, that brings me to my next question, a lot of senate republicans have complained about it. they think the relief bill is too big. so it looks to me at this point on capitol hill you can either go bip or bipartisan. what do you think it will be? >> my view on this, all of a sudden the senate republicans say it's too big. i'm sorry, we've got tens of millions of people out of work, tens of millions of people on the threshold of losing their homes, 23 million people who can't put food on the table. and republicans want to say the package is too big? remember what this package is about. it is about helping the people who need it, people right here in america who need that help, families that need that help. it is about making sure there is money for vaccinations so we can step up production and get those vaccinations distributed all across this country to make us safe. and it is about getting our schools open again. three principal parts that are in this relief package and the republicans, what, don't want to do it? don't want to help people in trouble? don't want to help get more vaccines out there? don't want to get our schools open? what is wrong with these people? >> so that brings me to my next question, what is the biggest hurdle? i'm often battled. when i think about the person watching, i think the person who can't pay their rent, i think about the person who is lighting candles at night because the lights have been cut off, i think about the person wondering how they're going to eat that need or feed their children, when they hear the democrats want to make sure this is bipartisan, i have to wonder what is the point of having power if you're not willing it use it, particularly at a time when people are desperate. what is the biggest hurdle right now to getting this legislation passed and letting the american people know how soon they can expect relief from their federal government? >> so, you are so right on this, tiffany. look, i hope the republicans will join us, because let's be clear, it's not just democrats who are suffering. it's democrats, republicans, independents, people who don't care about politics at all. we need everyone to have the help that they need. we need them to get vaccines. we need to get these schools open. but if the republicans aren't going to do it, democrats got elected not just to stand around and debate in washington, they got elected to deliver. and that is exactly what we should do. get these -- this stimulus bill passed and get it done now. >> i want to try to nail you down on this, senator. how soon do you think if we just abandon this effort, if democrats say, look, we tried to go bipartisan. it's not working. how soon before the democratic party lawmakers get to that point and how soon can the american people expect some sort of relief? >> so, look, every day that we delay is another day of people suffering, another delay in getting the vaccines out, and another pause before we get the schools open. i want this done as soon as possible. i'm ready. i am ready to go. and i think we've got a lot of democrats who are ready to go. right now mitch mcconnell is still digging in and you realize, we don't even have what are called the organizing resolutions yet in the senate. here we are, the democrats are in the majority and mitch mcconnell is still trying to run things. it's going to come a point he's either go to step up and join us or we're going to call his bluff. me, i'm already at that point. we've got to get others on board too. >> who in the democratic caucus is the biggest holdup? if the consensus is move mitch oust of the way, who is blocking let's get this thing passed, get money in the bank and get the american economy open again? >> look, right now there are people who still want to at least give republicans a chance to come along, and i understand that, but all of the democrats -- and i really do want to underline here all -- they want to see relief. they understand the importance of getting these vaccines out. this is about life and death. seeing the importance of getting our schools open. they see the importance of making sure that everyone can put food on the table and nobody gets thrown out on the street. so i think democrats are in the right place. they're trying to keep the door open to get republicans onto the bus as well. but if republicans are not going to come, we're not going to spend much more time on this. it's time to move now. >> yeah, i imagine people watching who are, you know, not even eating the fancy ramen noodles but who are just struggling and trying to survive every day really don't care about senate procedure or this effort to be bipartisan. they just want relief. now, like you said, that's not just democrats, that's also republicans' constituents too. i do want to move on and ask you about impeachment. so the impeachment trial is going to begin not this week but next week. do you think there are -- some of your colleagues from across the aisle helped and aided some of the violent insurrectionist who stormed the capitol on january 6th? >> well, i think that's why we need an investigation. to find out exactly what the ties are here. one of the key points about impeachment is know one is above the law. and that includes the president of the united states, it includes elected officials, it includes famous people. there was an armed insurrection against our government. we have not had anything like that since the civil war. and it is important to know the details on who participated in it, who helped, and to hold those people accountable. no matter where they stand today. >> so let me ask you as well -- i have to ask about the gamestop/reddit thing. i know everybody's blowing you up about this. when day traders expose this vulture-like atmosphere for hedge funds and investors, the world changed. for me, my curiosity is, congress got all over this, right, when this happened xtsz when these day-trader exposed the loopholes and made quite a bit of money. why is it 400,000 death americans is not enough -- is not treated with the same urgency as these random day-traders impacting the bottom line of these wealthy hedge fund managers? >> you're right. we're talking about a rigged system, and it's rigged in multiple ways. it's writinged in that -- writinged in that over and over donald trump stood up for over a year, the coronavirus would magically go away, no one would die from it, he recommended bleach. what kind of accountability was there? none. as a result the united states went further and further behind and more and more people died. and now we're trying to move forward to acknowledge that we're black and brown families, got sick and died, and now we're trying to put things back together. but i think what's happening with gamestop, it shows the same kind of dysfunction. what gamestop shows right now is the wall street game is rigged. and it's been rigged for years now. hedge funds have been taken advantage of it, giant corporations have been taking advantage. and individual investors over and over catch the short hand of the stick. what happened before up to now is nobody wanted to hear it. they just kept covering their ears up. pump and dump, they didn't care. giant corporations manipulate their stock by buying back their own shares. nobody wanted to hear it. and then what happens is small investors get engaged and all of a sudden they the hedge funds discovered, wait, there's a casino here and we are on the losing end. >> right. >> and then the small investors' access get shut down. this is not right. we need a market that is transparent and market that is open, not just to the big boys, but a market that is open to individual and investors and plays on a level set of rules. >> so i do want to get to two more topics before i let you go. one, the democrats hold the majority with a very narrow lead, so i have to ask you, how is your colleague, senator pat leahy, doing? i think there's a lot of concern because he was admitted to the hospital last week and if you can't answer the question, tsz snatz is increasingly older and wider. it does not look like the white demographics of america. given pat leahy was admitted to the hospital, in addition to how he's feeling, what role can you play being kind of the star in the senate to ten it look more like america? >> pat leahy, i hope he's doing great. we all wish him well. but there's a larger question about who tz senate represents, who our federal government represents. i just want to start with the district of columbia. we have larger than 7,000 people here, larger than the state of vermont, larger than the state of wyoming, who are taxed, taxed with no representation, as the lie expense plate says, do not participate because they're not a state. i think it's time for d.c. statehood. i would like to see the senate bring in two more senators. i think that's one way to do it. the senate needs to represent all of the america. the senate needs to be representative of all of america. more women, more people of color, more young people, that's the kind of senate we need to see. >> all right, so thank you very much, senator elizabeth warren, for making time for us on a saturday morning. i know that golden retriever is around there somewhere waiting for you to take him for a walk. >> right there sitting. >> thank you for letting us steal some of your time this morning. i truly appreciate it. thank you for joining us. you have a permanent invitation to come back so i appreciate you joining. don't go anywhere at home, coming up later on "politics nation" senator majority leader chuck schumer joins my friend 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and no-knock warrants. now that dems control the upper chamber as well, what does the democratic party plan to do about policing in this country? >> well, we certainly plan to move forward. the george floyd justice and policing act passed the house of representatives and was led in the senate by then-senator kamala harris and cory booker. so we definitely planned to be at it, back at it. i know that the administration is going to issue executive orders on policing so it is very exciting that we have an administration to work with this time around. >> so that's one of the things that i often find myself in conversations about, congresswoman. so many people say, what is the cdc doing? what is the black caucus doing? i don't think people understand last congress democrats controlled the upper chamber so things would pass the house and fall flat in the senate. given now, talking now about the george floyd police act, what role do you see congress playing in even wider legislation, given a lot of these issues rest at the local level? >> first of all, we know policing is the beginning in order to transform our criminal justice system, so so much work needs to be done. i do feel very good that we with will have a partner in the senate this time. so bills passed even with bipartisan support languished on mitch mcconnell's desk. but when the federal government takes initiative, a lot of times that leads to change on the state and local level and given the mass movement that erupted after george floyd's torture and murder, we saw a lot of changes and a lot of different states in and on local levels as well and at the end of the day, the state, the federal government controls the purse strings. so i think there's a lot of influence that the federal government can have. >> yousef, i want to turn to you. first of all, i'm so happy you're here and excited you are a free man today, brother. thank you for joining me. i have to say, me looking at that imagery, seeing these four black people held at gunpoint and then looking at how the violent insurrectionists were treated on capitol hill, it's nothing new. we all understand how this country works. and we're all actively trying to change it. but i'm curious given your unique situation, given the leader of the free world, so to speak, once called for your execution, how that imagery resonates with you. >> what it reminded me of as i watched it over and over again and even today, it looked like slave catchers. it looked like the juxtaposition of seeing people who have the complexion for acceptance at the capitol rioting, pushing their way through, almost doing terrorist acts. right alongside a family being put on the ground, all of them, the mother, father, children, everybody, it is the most despicable imagery we can see in america because we realize that the system we are under has continued and that the leader of the so-called free world back then, donald trump, his whole process was to make sure that white supremacy, white male dominants, continued to stay in power. that's where we're at. we're at fighting spiritual wickedness in high and low places because the people there to protect and serve are not protecting and serving everyone. we live in the divided states of america as opposed to the united states of america. today is a new day. i'm excited about what this new administration represents and how we are moving forward with that. >> yeah, you talk about it. we've seen white prisoners get organic food delivered. we'll see a white woman who tried to sell a laptop -- accused of trying to sell a laptop to russians of all gemt people, released on bail. let's pretend everyone is watching right now. let's pretend joe biden is watching this program. ambassador susan rice, who is overseeing the domestic policy council, the scuttlebutt is they're coming out with more policy this week. assuming they're watching now, what would you like to say to them to include whatever policing plan they come out with, which i'm told will include a policing commission >> you know, the biggest thing i think i would love to say to the administration at this particular point in time is we need reform that will usher in things that will not be able to be changed or taken away. far too often it's two steps forward, 15 steps back. but the thing that should be put in place are i believe things that are solid structures unable to be moved as long as they represent true freedom, justice and equality for all of us. the beautiful thing about what the presidency represents and what the government represents is that it doesn't just -- it's not just the president of black votes, it's the president for all people in america and here we are. we want the ability to be able to dream with our eyes wide open in the era of a doctor king. we want to be able to dream that impossible dream, have the best of the best afforded to us in america for it to be across the board and not for some and deprived from others. far too long since we've been brought to this country, many of us in shackles, we have been denied that type of treatment where our humanity has been looked at as being sacred and the founding fathers' statement when they created america as it is now, they said we the people, and we were not considered part of that. we were still considered 3/5 of a human being. and i think the beautiful thing is this new administration, i believe, is ushering in new change that i believe will be so magnificent that we will go from being in the trash heap of the world to being back on top, being back as the example of what could be and the great thing about it is in certain places in america, there are already reforms happening. there are already changes happening that will signify how we all can be able to receive that and be able to live beautifully, happily and respectfully. >> the fact that you remain so optimistic and have this positive spirit and outlook and energy on this panel gives me hope, 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they are who we are and they've always been who we've always known them to be. we have to see if the hp-controlled senate legislature will actually pass this bill but one thing georgia voters have prove anticipate, they will continue to get up, get out and get something. these pivotal elections will not pass them by. the south is only red until it ain't. when it comes to flipping a red state, georgia voters are proving they're the prototype. we'll keep you posted. stay tuned. g at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. the recipe we invented over 145 years ago and me...the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. over the next couple months we will be doing these in an escalating manager so by the time we get to spring and summer, we will have children being able to be vaccinated according to the fda's guidance. >> this week johnson & johnson announced the single-dose vaccine is 62% effective in the united states and reached a dial to provide the country with 100 million doses. even though it's less effective than pfizer and moderna, doctors say it's promising because it's only one dose. so no one has to return for a second shot. and it does not require ultra cold temperatures, making things easier for transportation and storage. johnson & johnson prepares to file for fda emergency use authorization next week. this could not come as a better time for teachers and students across the country. as the biden administration ames to reopen schools within the first 100 days of his presidency. i know a lot of my friend are eager to hear this conversation, so joining me now, randi weingarten, president of the american teachers and former national teacher of the year and she also sits on the house committee on education and labor. congresswoman, i want to start with you. as a former educator of the year, i want to ask you, president joe biden said he wants to reopen schools in the first 100 days. as a lawmaker and also as an educator, do you think that is a realistic goal? >> well, thank you for having me. i'm very encouraged the biden administration has made reopening schools a top priority. however, i would like to see, first of all, educators assigned as essential workers and have access to the vaccine. i want to make sure that there is money for state and local governments to provide personal protective equipment, which teachers generally are buying out of their own pockets. i want to make sure they have access to testing, and there's a contingency plan for when there's an outbreak. equally as important, teachers need to have professional development for virtual learning and kids have to have digital connection to make sure if there has to be an interruption in back-to-school, they can continue learning. all of us want to see schools reopen, but i want to see thaem done safely. my colleagues in education were hailed as heroes at the beginning of this pandemic and now the narrative is shifting to they are selfish because they're asking real, honest questions that they would like answered before they return to in-person learning. so i'm encouraged the biden administration is listening and changing course accordingly, but there are a lot of things that need to happen before schools open and i would be comfortable with it. >> randi, let me ask you, you heard the congresswoman. i did read your op-ed in "usa today," i believe, and you talk about some of the things that you believe will make educators feel more comfortable returning to the classroom. tell us what is that is. >> first, can i just say, tiffany, congratulations, this is a really cool show and i'm so glad that you're here. >> thank you. >> much luck. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> so, of course, you know, thank god we have an educator. we actually have two educators now on the ed committee, congresswoman hayes and congressman bowman and hopefully we can do whatever we can to deal with the white supremacist, qanon person trying to get on there as well. but that's another story for another day. but the complexities here are profound. when there are -- like if you were lifting off a rocket ship, nobody would question the complexities. we would be trying to follow the science, trying to follow the physics, trying to follow the safety. and our kids should be as important in terms of doing that. and so this is not an either/or. this is what does the science tell us about how to make things safe? and at least what's happening is that as congresswoman hayes said, the biden administration gets this. it's put out its goal. and we are trying in jurisdiction after jurisdiction to have that blueprint. the op-ed you talked about, there's like five major things. one is the mitigation factors like the mask. the other is the testing to ensure that since 40% of this disease is asymptomatic, you've got to see what you can't see and that's why the testing is so important and contact tracing as a piece of it. third obviously is the vaccines. fourth is, you know, we're in the middle of a pandemic so if people are high risk or taking care of people who are high risk, we need to give them those kind of accommodations. and six is to make sure as representative hayes said, what happens if there's a new variant that comes across us as it did great britain? so we know now what to do. there are people in washington now in the executive branch, dr. fauci, the president obviously, dr. walensky, who get this. we need the money to do it. and that's what our union is committed to do. how to reopen in-person learning because we know it's so important for kids, particularly young kids and kids with special needs. how to do it safely, and then how to make sure the instructional pieces that congresswoman hayes said are done right as well. >> so congresswoman, let me turn back to you, because i think one of the biggest things that concerns me is the reports of abuse kids have gone down, sometimes school is the only place where kids have a meal. my kids sit, they work full time but try to assist educators in doing this. not everybody has a hot spot or good wi-fi. in randi's op-ed, she said it could be up to 200 million tests a month. so from a lawmaker perspective as we try to get the covid relief stimulus plan passed, what do you think it takes to get folks back in the classroom from a lawmaker perspective? >> the equity gaps exposed by covid were not new to eachers. these teachers. these are things we've been talking about and asking for. it's estimated it will cost about $250 billion to reopen schools safety. in the stimulus package there's about $130 dedicated to reopening schools. i recently introduced legislation, the save education jobs act, because i want to make sure we're preserving the jobs of social workers and counselors and nurses and paraprofessionals and all of those support personnels who are the first to go when school budgets are cut. we need all of those people as kids return from what is probably the most traumatic experience of their life. listen, in march before we could close schools, we had to figure out how we're going to feed kids. before we closed schools, we had to figure out what to do with our mckinney bento students living in homeless shelters and now had to leave at 8:00 in the morning and there was no school to go to. there are so many community-based issues that we're being dealt with that school which says to me -- and i hope to everyone else -- that we have to target those parts of our community. we have to make sure that, especially our black and brown students who are the most vulnerable, the most marginalized, who rely on schools to provide these services, are taken care of. what i want to make clear, i don't want to go back to march 2020. the problem is so much bigger than that. all of these gaps existed before covid and no one can say now they didn't know or they were not aware. everybody is aware of how bad it is. everybody is aware of what needs to be done. our kids don't have a voice. it is up to the adults to make shire they are safe, make sure they have safe learning environments and for our legislators to have the will to not only make the investments but also legislate accordingly so that they're returning to buildings that are safe and being provided with a high quality education. >> we've got to wrap but i want to ask you quickly, given that congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, kevin mccarthy has rewarded her with the sweet spot on the health committee where you serve, how do you feel about it? ten seconds if you can. >> my blood is boiling, absolutely not. she has no place on this committee. we deal with school climate. we deal with keeping school environments safe. someone who would even question the existence of mass shootings should not -- cannot legislate in good faith. she should not be on this committee. kevin mccarthy speaking to her is not sufficient to me. he should never have assigned her to this committee. and i will do everything in my power to make sure she's not seated. >> all right. there you have it, thank you very much, randi weingarten, and congresswoman jaha in. a hayes, former educator of the year. what a great conversation with you both. thank you so much for coming on. coming up -- "weekends with alex witt" where she will have kareem abdul-jabbar. want to make a name for yourself in gaming? then make a name for yourself. even if your office, and bank balance are... far from glamorous. that means expensing nothing but pizza. your expenses look good, and your books are set for the month! ...going up against this guy... and pitching your idea 100 times. no, no, no! no. i like it. -he likes it! ...and you definitely love that. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, banking and live bookkeeping. if you printed out directions to get here today, you're in the right place. my seminars are a great tool to help young homeowners who are turning into their parents. now, remember, they're not programs. they're tv shows. you woke up early. no one cares. yes. so, i was using something called homequote explorer from progressive to easily compare home insurance rates. was i hashtagging? 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>> i wish i could, but i can't let you. >> i don't understand that, sheriff hill. >> well, it's simple. that's the rules i follow. rebecca -- >> you got your lawyer job, sheriff. >> that was the beautiful cicely tyson in the 1972 "sounder," one of the many memorable roles played by the ground breaking actress and activist over her seven-decade career. she changed how black women were and are depicted on the screen. she believed with every ounce of her being this was her true purpose in life. cicely tyson died this week at the age of 96. with me is actress and producer who was with her in 1998 and produced the documentary i adore called "big trouble." thank you for being here this morning. >> thank you, tiffany. >> i know we're both so sad. we know cicely tyson is not immortal but it's still really sad to see her leave this earth. one thing i thought was interesting about her, she refused to take roles where black women were not portrayed in a good light, roles without depth. tell me, if you will, your memory of cicely tyson and do black women still face that issue in the industry? >> absolutely, and thank you, tiffany, for this moment to talk about her. if you were a black actress working in hollywood or on stage, cicely was the alpha and omega. if you said her name, it meant excellence. for so many actresses who had to play those roles they were offered, they had no power to make change. all of the executive agents and managers were white and so no value in black talent. but she was different. and so they set the table for her. dark skip usually had kitchen, main street prostitute or well fair roles. but she raised the bar. if you were dark skin, you should be considered a woman, human being, with emotions. she did it well and for a very long time when it wasn't in vogue. >> so i remember one of the first movies i saw her in when first fell in love with her and that was "busting loose," her and richard pryor driving the kids on the bus. >> i love that movie. >> what was the first movie you saw her in? >> it was either "sounder" or "jane pittman." and i remember being vapt captivated because she also did the confederate soldier role too. but she was the character actor and leading woman. that's using something she's innately gifted with, which is dna, which is charisma, but also her profound talent to transcend herself. she did that very well. so i really loved those roles and i didn't really know her name. i just remember the character she plays. and then, of course, you learn who cicely tyson is. for all of us, you're talking about people like alisha rashad, la tanya richardson, these are the people who raised me. they're the people who taught me my craft, and they looked up to ses aly tyson. so me it's the direct line. and there's no break between her and especially if you do serious roles and any black actress, and that has to go beyond skin color, light and/or dark. >> is let me just say while i have you, i remember seeing you as pam on "living single" and obviously a cosby kid as well. but you crystalized the role of pam and made so many people feel like they can be lawyers and live in cute little new york apartments. it says something about representation. and the actress cicely tyson's memoir is out this week, "just as i am." so i hope people will just memorize or take a moment to remember cicely tyson in her life and read her memoir of the she was beauty, she was grace, and she was the culture. so she will definitely be remembered and live on in our memories together. thank you very much, erica alexandra, for join canning us this morning. i know it's early out in the west coast. i appreciate you. >> thank you. >> that's our show for today. tune in to the gram in a few minutes, i will be with my friend john. if he's one second late, he will be in big trouble. of course, i will be back next saturday at 10:00 a.m. eastern. but now stay tuned for my friend alex witt. smooth driving pays off you never been in better hands allstate click or call for a quote today nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette with new rewards from chase freedom unlimited, i now earn even more cash back? 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