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presidency, but perhaps the only thing those nine additional charges against hunter are killing is his dad's key campaign message, pay your pair share. we've got andy mccarthy on where where this is the headed legally and karl rove on how this could play out politically. plus, tracking a university president, liz magill so far staying put. we'll talk to one student who says while magill needs to go, the policies allowing anti-semitism on campus need to go with her. and the battle over border security is far from over as the situation at the border is far from improved. we're on the push by republicans to pick fix it by tying ukraine aid to it. and we are over it, all of it, starting now. ♪ neil: happy weekend, everybody. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. we begin right now on the hunter biden business and the fallout for dad who's' out west. right now we we get thest from the white house where you'll find our lucas tomlinson. >> reporter: well, neil, the 56-page indictment does not accuse president biden of doing anything wrong, but recall back in may president biden said his son did nothing wrong. the doj says otherwise. and let's read part of the indictment. quote: between 2016 and october 15th, 2020, that's about a month before the election, neil, the defendant spent this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing and other items of a personal nature. in short, everything but his taxes. here's what he spent some of that money on. $1.6 million in ark tf polls -- ark tm. 400k for clothing and accessories, 188,000 on adult entertainment. 237,000 on health, beauty and pharmacy products. a white house spokesman says, quote, this baseless stunt is not rooted in facts or reality, but in extreme house republicans' shameless desire to abuse their power to smear president biden. now, hunter biden spoke publicly about what happened before this indictment was released. >> they're trying to destroy a presidency. and so it's not about a me. and their most base way what they're trying to do is they're trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain greater than my if father could be able to handle. >> reporter: house oversight committee chairman james comer also a reacted to the indictment. >> we think that this is just the tip of the iceberg. the -- we think there are many more crimes. and my concern is that weiss may have indicted hunter biden to present him from being deposed -- >> ah, yes, yes. >> my guess is that with the combination of the gun charges and the tax charges, that hunter biden is going to have to do time in jail. >> reporter: in las vegas yesterday, president biden continued to insist the wealthy pay more taxes. we're not sure if he included his son in that. of. >> that way the poor have a shot, the middle class do well, and the wealthy still do well. matter of fact, they should be paying a hell of a hot more taxes. >> reporter: president biden is in los angeles this weekend passing the hat around in the spirit of giving, doing a little campaign fund raising. of course, his son hunter lives nearby in malibu. neil: so just to put a button on it, the president's not addressed this at all, right? when asked about it, he just doesn't bring it up. operation ignore. >> reporter: correct. when president biden was walking to marine one on the south lawn, he did not address reporters' repeated questions asking about this. neil: lucas, thank you. to andy mccarthy right now, fox contributor. andy, i don't know if these charges stick, these nine additional ones, tax evasion, but i know they potentially carry a lot of prison time if they do. could you elaborate on that? >> yeah. there's nine charges in all, neil, so it's a combined 17 statutory years; that is, if you combined all the statutes that are at issue, they provide for a penalty of 17 years. the sentencing guidelines would apply if he were to be convicted of one or more of the charges. so he would do less time than that, but these are serious offenses. it's a lot of money. so it's likely that a prison sentence would come out of it if he's convicted. neil: now the question becomes because from his defense team, hunter biden's defense team, they say these are just pile on here where you have a republican prosecutor who faces enormous pressure to do what he did. what do you think of that? >> well,, i think it's a preposterous argument. i heard abby lowell, the lawyer, say yesterday if this defendant were not named biden, this prosecution would never have happened. and i can only respond that if he were not named biden, he would have been prosecuted four years ago on felony tax charges that went back to 2014 because of the way wise handled the way. weiss handled the case. some of the most outrageous offenses can't be charged now because he let the stuff when joe biden was vice president from 2014-16, he let e the statute of limitations on that stuff lapse. so it's not available to be prosecuted. finish and, of course, he would have been hit with the gun charges four years ago too. so if this was an ordinary case, he would have been prosecuted the way the justice department does four years aen-- ago. neil: you know what's remarkable, how this whole plea deal fell apart back in june and the judge getting involved saying, wait a minute. had that not fallen a apart, none of this would be an issue right now. >> yeah, that's right. the judge did her job here, and the one thing i observe about all of this, neil, is that there's a lot of talk in the coverage a now about how hunter spent this money because that's the salacious details that people get themselves whipped up about. the important thing for the country is how the money was generated. and the big thing continues to be that agents of corrupt and anti-american regimes thought it was in their interests the pay the bidens millions of dollars when no asset seems to be crossing the other way other than joe biden's political influence. neil: so so now the question becomes where does this go, right? what's the next step in this process? >> well, i'm going to say about hunter the same thing i say about president trump when similar questions come up, and that is his dance card's getting a little full now. not easy to schedule trials when you're indicted in multiple districts, you know, thousands of miles away from each oh. so -- each other. he already faces a significant gun prosecution in delaware. this is a tax case, they, you know, they kind of move at a snail's pace. i could easily see this being strung out for a long time, perhaps after the election. but, you know, there's a lot of rounds to play, and i think the problem that the biden white house is going to face is that at the same time these prosecutions now put pa criminal cast on all of this, the house is going to continue investigating exactly how all these funds were generated. neil: got it. andy, good seeing you with. hope you have a merry christmas if we don't chat again. >> you too, neil. neil: politically, this is not helpful to the president especially when he has made such a big issue of the rich paying their e fair share and just paying taxes period. take a look. >> all i'm asking is pay your fair share. pay your fair share. pay your fair share. we're doing it by making the wealthy and big corporations begin to pay their fair share. i'm going to make sure the wealthy pay their fair share. i think it's about just paying your fair share for lord's sake. pay your fair share: neil: that one is the one that a creeps me out the most. anyway, when someone whispers, they say you pay more attention when someone whispers. you do. karl rove is us right now -- with us right now, former white house deputy chief of staff. we tonight know the legal connections and whether any of this goes to the dad. we do know it's got to be an embarrassment for the dad because his own son wasn't and maybe isn't paying his fair share. how does that play out? what do you think? >> well, it's not good for the president, you're absolutely right. and think about it, the president said my son has done nothing wrong. didn't pay his taxes. i never discussed his business activities with him. maybe you should have is. when he went on the board of burisma, a company in ukraine run by a corrupt oligarch with ties to moscow, and you were in charge of the u.s. policy regarding corruption in ukraine, maybe you should have said to your son, boy, you better find a way to make a living. you don't know anything about ukraine, nothing about energy, and you've never been involved in corporate governance. you're trading off of my name, they hired you because you're the son of the vice president, and they hired your buddy, devon archer, because he's a longtime bag man for the sitting secretary of state, john kerry. so, yeah, the president is going to suffer from this, and hunter plaintively said in a podcast that they're trying to kill his father because if he goes to jail, the it's a loss the president couldn't deal with. well, maybe he should have thought about his father when he was taking money from a chinese energy company for doing essentially nothing and and that company tied to the communist party of china. maybe he should have thought about that before he went on burisma. maybe he should have gone to a regular law firm and been a lawyer and not lived the high life where he didn't pay $1.4 million of taxes, according to the indictment, and the two whistleblowers from the irs said the more egregious problems are in the two years, 2014 and 2015 -- no, 2013 and 2014, on which the statute of limitations have run. neil: you know, karl, i had a chance to catch up with barron williamson -- marianne williamson who is running for president. she did say that she's having a dell of a time sort of doing devil of a time sort of piercing through a white house-run party that is making it very difficult for challengers to take him on. i want you to sunday -- respond to this. >> obviously, hunter biden's in trouble. hunter biden is not his father. we want to make that distinction. but at the same time, it absolutely complicates this case. you know, the democrats have a big job. we have to defeat donald trump or whomever the gop puts up, and this will be a distraction. this absolutely weakens the argument that joe biden is the only one we should be considering as the democratic nominee. neil: what do you think of that, karl? >> i think she's right. i mean, she's not a particularly strong and effective candidate, but the point that she makes, that this weakens biden, it's true. you're right, there are going to be contrasts in people's minds between him saying people ought to pay their fair share and his son not even paying their taxes, let alone a fair share of his taxes. and it also raises the issue of why didn't you intervene? your son is doing business with unsavory people, and you're facilitating it. you're putting him on the plane with you to go to china. you're letting him dangle you around in front of his business associates so that he leaves the impression that or you know, everything he's doing is sanctioned by you. so the president's got a problem here, a problem of rhetoric, a problem of performance and a problem with discipline. he did not discipline his open son when he should have because he knew back in the time that he was vice president that this was problematic, and he should have thought ahead. neil: you know, karl, it was this as a backdrop that i had talking to ken langone, the home depot founder and billionaire, who has decided to say all the a more reason for republicans no -- to nominate someone when's not involved in legal messes. he threw that support behind nikki haley. respond to this from ken. >> yes, i am going to support her. i think she's just what we need right now. i think her approach is smart. i think she's codified herself -- [inaudible] which is very important. and more importantly, i think the american people need this kind of leadership. statesman-like, elegant. just think of where we've within the last six, seven or eight years. it's not gooding neil, not good at all -- neil: so by that, you do not like ron desantis. why not ron desantis? >> no, i did like -- no, i did like ron desantis. his numbers aren't moving, neil. neil: yeah. >> the handwriting's on the wall. neil: he added, ken, that in it came down to joe biden and donald trump, he would write in his wife, just to add that there. your thoughts. >> well, look, these are the two most unpopular front-runners for the major parties since we began polling on that question in 1936. depending on what poll you look at, as much as a three-quarters of the american people do not want to see a biden-trump rerun. and the party that figures out that a new face gives them an advantage is the party that's going to win. take the new "wall street journal" poll in which donald trump is ahead of joe biden by a couple of points. nikki haley is ahead of joe biden by, i think, it's 17 points. so, you know, there's a huge difference. the american people want something new. for 32 years we were governed by men of the greatest generation, for 32 years we've been governed by men from the baby boomers or in the case of joe biden, from the generation before the baby boomers. the american people want a younger, strong, effective candidate, in my opinion. neil: nikki haley seems to be that focus for now. we'll see what happens. karl, always great seeing you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you, sir. neil: all right. there's a lot of controversy with the united nations, the united states led e a veto against getting a ceasefire going there in the war, so so the war continues to pound away in gaza. very few safe outlets there for folks to get out, and that is why the u.n. is saying we should get a ceasefire going. it's not happening. we'll let you in on the latest after this. can't stop adding stuff to your cart? 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yes, that resolution was introduced in the security council yesterday calling for an immediate ceasefire. it was approved by most of the countries but, yes, the u.s. vetoing it in a very strong defense of israel and what they're doing right now. meanwhile, throughout the region u.s. military bases, embassies, u.s. interests being targeted by iran-backed militias. the number of attacks in recent weeks up to 85, 10 in the last two days including mortars landing on the grounds of the u.s. 'em e bass city in baghdad. no one was hurt. neil, finally, as for the hostages, there is more sad news. of the 137 believed still held by hamas, 17 are now thought to be dead. according to israel and hamas, there was an attempt to get at least some of them back yesterday. it failed. back to you, neil. neil: so sad. greg, thank you very much. be safe, my friend. greg palkot in israel on that. that was a development overnight where we heard that more of the hostages are feared dead. again, that number 17 has been kicked around a, we just don't know. what we do know is their fate is certainly uncertain at this hour. especially those still alive which would roughly put it at about 120. we'll keep you posted on that. keeping you posted on u.s. troops that continue, some scary ones right now. in case you're counting, 80 of -- 80 some odd attacks. the responsetter is running at one-tenthth that rate. after this. dering all your financial choices together can help you make smarter decisions. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. lowe's knows the best deals are the ones that keep on giving. so shop our 25 days of deals where you can discover brand new offers. buy now and pay later with lowe's pay. hi, i'm janice, and i lost 172 pounds on golo. when i was a teenager i had some severe trauma in my life and i turned to food for comfort. i had a doctor tell me that if i didn't change my life, i wasn't gonna live much longer. once i saw golo was working, i felt this rush, i just had to keep going. a lot of people think no pain no gain, but with golo it is so easy. my life is so much different now that i've lost all this weight. when i look in the mirror i don't even recognize myself. (car engine revs) (engine accelerating) (texting clicks) (tires squeal) (glass shattering) (loose gravel clanking) neil: all right, pressure growing on israel and the united states over rejecting this u.n. ceasefire resolution. even among most u.s. allies who say there's got to be a pause to allow not only to negotiate the release of hostages in the area, but just to get humanitarian relief in to the area. let's go to foreign policy adviser to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. where does that stand, doctor? because you've heard the criticism not only of israel, but of the united states that it was inhumane, i think as one u.n. official put it, to veto this resolution? >> well, thank you, neil, for having me. israel's been providing oren abling humanitarian aid from the very outset of this war. we want humanitarian aid to get into the, for civilians. we've urged civilians to get out of harm's way, warned them to get out of harm's way. it seems to me sometimes that israel is doing more for humanitarian aid a than anybody else. israel and the united states, of course. the u.n. has always had double standards, for years has been deploying double standards, and israel's trying to set a gold standard in humanitarian aid and taking care of civilians. neil: you know, it is odd, i don't know if in the middle of a war too many countries that delineate and publicize exactly where the next wave of attacks will come to give people a heads up. i mean, imagine if we had done that with normandy, you know, back in world war ii or, you know, planned and telegraphed exact pippoints -- pinpoints bombings in dress done, germany? if -- dress done, germany? if you are being singled out for being unusually -- and i just wonder your thoughts on that. >> absolutely, neil if. you're spot on on that. israel has always a seeked to minimize civilian casualties. that's a our counterterrorism strategy. not only because it's right, but because it's effective. order -- on the other hand, hamas seeks to maximize civilian casualties. they target israeli civilian and hide behind their civilians, behind and below their own civilians. not only because they're a sick, genocidal terrorist organization, but because they think it's effective. they think it's an effective propaganda tool. we cannot let that be an effective propaganda tool. neil: but it is, right in and the reason i raise it, there's talk and recordings of frustrated former hostages and families of present-day hostage as who worry that their loved ones are all but dead because of this ongoing campaign. what do you say to them? i know benjamin netanyahu got an earful from them, and i certainly understand their frustration. but that's a tough, you know, line to push, right? >> right. our heart goes out to the families and to the soldiers. netanyahu's war cabinet made a clear directive what the mission of the war is, it's to destroy hamas so that hamas will never be able to attack anybody else again and to free our hostages. those are the two missions of the war. they're not mutually exclusive. they actually complement one another. we've been able to free 110 hostages. from the beginning of the war. and we'll do everything possible to free the rest of the hostage as. at the same time, we will destroy hamas. that's what the idf if is doing right now. unprecedented success on the battlefield. unprecedented heroism on the battlefield over the past two months the idf has done, and we're determined the destroy hamas and to free our hostages. if any country of, that has moral clarity would demand the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages 4/7. $24/7 demand -- 24/7 demand to release the hostages unconditionally and immediately. it's been 64 days. the red cross has not visited them even yet. that's actually outrageous. and we demand that the red cross be able to visit the hostages and that for the rest of the world who candidly and genuinely have civilian and humanitarian thoughts in their minds and in their hearts, to demand the unconditional and immediate release of the hostages. neil: all right. we'll watch it closely, doctor. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, neil. thank you very much. neil: in the meantime, we're learning a little bit more about a these attacks on u.s. troops in the middle east, particularly this one that involved 60 millimeter mortar rounds landing in the u.s. embassy compound late yesterday. kirk lippold is with us. commander, one of the details is, first of all, how strong and sweeping they were and,s as of yet, how limited our response has been. now, these attacks have been appearing at roughly 0 times the rate of our -- so time -- so time -- 10 times the rate of our response to that. what do you make of this? >> unfortunately, what i think this is demonstrating is that the united states with the biden administration, secretary of defense austin, they are showing that the u.s. is unwilling our worse, unable to respond to these attacks in an effective manner that enables deterrence to occur. these attacks have continued, they have happened. now we're having our embassy shot at. and when you look at we're being attacked in iraq are, in syria, in yemen, and when that occurs and they are aiming directly at u.s. forces including our ships that are operating in the red sea, it's an act of war. and it's all being done by iran. iran is at war with the united states and israel right now. and and essentially, they are at a war with the region. but nobody wants to recognize that. and they all want to talk about the proxy groups. and it's time to begin to identify the true source of why these attacks continue to occur, and we are going to have to respond at some point. neil: now, we did respond the week before and took out a group of proxy soldiers, terrorists, whatever you want to call them in northern iraq. we've not done that since. is our reluctance because you're going to iraq to do that, close e to iran a when you do that? what? >> i think, neil, there is a genuine concern of an expansion of the conflict while we want to keep focused on israel destroying hamas and not making sure that that capability can ever exist within gaza or the -- neil: what would happen, commander, do you think, because obviously iran is betting on that, that is our reluctance of why we're so cautious, what do you think would happen if we did? >> i think, neil, what you're going to have to have is we have forces in place in the region today with two aircraft carrier strike groups, b1 bombers, f-16s and f-15 scad squadrons -- squadrons deployed to the area. and the first thing the biden administration can do, lower the boom when it comes to sanctions on iran and make them start paying a financial price for their malfeasance in the area and targeting americans. then you begin to tighten it up and say if you continue these attacks, those factories, facilities, bases that are enabling these attacks to occur are on a target list, and the united states will respond. and if iran wants to ratchet it up, let's face it, you're going to have the persians and the arabs once again facing off a against each other. we will have to rely on our allies in the region who are giving us the bases and fuel to operate our ships at sea from. but at the end of the day, iran needs to be taken out as the sensor of gravity which is enabling all these attacks to occur. if we do not begin to do that now, deterrence and doing these little pinprick responses is not going to stop them. neil: it hasn't stopped them thus far, to your point. kirk lippold, thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right. in the meantime, they are ivy league presidents, but these days more like poison ivy league presidents. the push to have them leave because they're really not doing enough about anti-semitism on their campuses, after. this. -- after this. as a way to say thank you this holiday season, bass pro shops and cabela's club members save even more while supporting conservation during club member mondays. for the first time ever, club members receive up to an additional 15% off our best deals of the year, in-store, online, and even on sale items. every monday through christmas. plus, purchases over $500 receive 0% interest for 12 months on qualifying purchases. not a club member? join today and start earning free gear for your next adventure. neil: all right, they might have allowed high is, after all, the presidents of some of the -- elitist colleges. of after a capitol hill appearance on the part of the presidents there. alexandria hoff on the wicked fallout for some of them whose jobs are being called into question. alexandria. >> reporter: yeah. hey, neil, all of their jobs really. and u-penn's president liz magill in particular is receiving widespread calls to step down. she says she's not going anywhere, but these calls are coming from donors, from pennsylvania legislators and the governor himself, josh shapiro. he is jewish. he stated to the jewish insider this: i thought her comments were absolutely shameful. it should not be hard to condemn genocide. he's referring to tuesday's testimony before the house education committee where magill and the presidents of harvard and m if it collectively failed to reassure that they have been committed to combating anti-semitism on their campuses. >> calling for the general said of jews -- genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct, correct. >> again, it fends on the context -- >> it does not depend on the context. the answer is yes, and this is why you should resign. >> reporter: harvard's' claudine gay apologized for her testimony stating i am sorry. when words amplify distress and pain, i don't know how you could feel anything but regret. president magill did the same as a major donor ross stevens vowed to pull his $100 million donation to the school, quote, ab a sent change in leadership. -- absent change in leadership. on thursday a banner that read harvard hates jews was seen flying above the cambridge campus, reportedly a student made by jewish students who in the wake of protests on campus say they feel threatened and abandoned. now the education and work force committee has announced an official congressional investigation promising to use subpoena power if the universities are not forthcoming about their policies. we have the chairwoman virginia foxx, stating about that, quote: committee members have deep concerns with their leadership and their failure to take steps to provide jewish students the safe learning environment that they are due under law. so that investigation is going to be under way soon. it will include universities beyond harvard, mit and u-penn. neil. neil: thank you for that. a pretty brave young man who spoke out about this in the middle of all of, this eyal joins us, a u-penn student, essentially saying that indiana semitism, unfortunately, is alive and not doing so well right now on college campuses ink4r50u7bding his own. what reaction did you get when you were saying that? >> first off, thank you so much for having me. the u-penn founder, ben franklin, has a quote about this very thing. never ruin an apology with an excuse. finish and president magill actually never said sorry in her apology speech that she gave on instagram. she made excuses for why she couldn't immediately condemn it. what about everything else that has happened? in my opinion, she keeps asking for one more chance and saying we need to get it right this time. and with upcoming finals, if leadership wants to teach their students by example, i think it's only fair if we adjust policies to allow students to have as many attempt it is as they want on their final exams until they think that the right outcome comes about. the only difference is when it has to do with student safety, it should be take a little bit more seriously. neil: did can you ever see this anti-semitism yourself before the fallout from the october 7th attacks, the hamas attacks on israel? >> yes. there -- two weeks before the october 7th brutal massacre by hamas, penn had already invited a whole host of anti-semitic speakers including roger waters, marc lamont hill, including people who actively support terrorism. and just yesterday i'm organizing the screening of the 45-minute film of what hamas brutally did to innocent civilians in us rah reel. i reached out to -- israel. i reached out to every department who cohosted, cosponsored the pal sign right festival. i reached out to president magill, and i've invited them to watch it so that they can understand why people feel so sensitive ant the topic. and it's necessary because when you have professors and students who call the october 7th massacre glorious and it makes them happy and enthusiastic, they need to understand why it is so problematic for students to have these people in their classes sitting next to them and teaching them. neil you know, i'm cure to yous, you go to one of the most prestigious schools in the world, very hard to get into this school so, obviously, you're a very smart young man. and i always ask those who have been involved in this and dealing with this whether you're ever tempted to leave. that if the university doesn't change its policy, would you ever go? >> i'm a senior, is so this semester's about to finish and then i have one more. i also actually transferred to penn because of anti-semitism at my former institution. neil: wow. >> and i would not think of leaving because, in my opinion, myself or other student thes that are leading this battle, if we leave, then we leave stranded all the other students, all the future students, all the alumni who have dedicated so much of their time and effort to the university. so all i want to see is that the university stands by its word that when policies are violated, they will do swift action which is what president magill said. however, we have identified countless examples of policy violations. there's fully a course being taught next semester titled palestinian liberation. and one of the literary texts that they are identifying and reading is one that is written by a convicted terrorist who murdered 13 vims -- individuals. and this terrorist is described as a freedom fighter and a brave individual. no. she is a terrorist. there is no room for terrorists being taught in the classroom. and so if penn sticks by its word, why is there a class next semester featuring a terrorist? neil: well put. eyal, thank you very much. keep us postedden all of that. a u-penn student. again, one of the most elite schools in the world, a tin ear to this issue. in the meantime, janice dean, she is looking after and remembering those who are in harm's way when disaster strikes. first responders, she, believe me, knows of what she speaks, after this. 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[laughter] kidding. it's so nice to hear from people we don't even hear from -- >> they don't like it. you talk to my husband -- neil: including your husband. >> right. when i told him i was doing this special, he was, like, please don't put pictures of me -- [laughter] there's plenty of them. but i think it is, even though they hesitate to talk about their duty and their service, we have to, we have to hear about these stories -- neil: we do. >> ultimately, it gives us hope. and that's the fabric of our country. what it was built on is people that want to help others. neil: and you do. you're very open about this. how's the ms? you're very open. >> so far knock wood. i know you tell me i should complain now -- neil: yeah. she doesn't whine or plain. it's not about me, neil. >> my husband was very glad i was coming to see you. [laughter] i love you dearly, my friend. neil right back at you. your cohost is going to be with us later. >> good. neil: got to see this on fox weather, into the storm: fox weather honors america's first responders. it'll make you feel good about what we're capable of. >> yep. neil: we'll have more after this. iva ultra. unlike some others, it supports 7 brain health indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. lowe's knows same-day delivery means getting what you need, right when you need it. holiday shopping got easier on affordable décor and more. you know you can get these all at once, right dad? the holidays got sweeter with same-day delivery. you got this. we got you. ♪ neil: you know, i thought this whole liv saudi league and pga tour, you know, they were combining, going together. then i discover, and this is where doug eldridge can help me out, that jon rahm signed up with liv, it's a half billion dollar deal, i didn't understand. doug, i didn't think that was even necessary but, apparently, that's not a done deal, right? >> it's not a done deal at all. and it seems that arbitrary december 31st deadline that we heard back in june with the surprise announcement of a halt to litigation and a possible armistice in the form of a merger, that's really coming into question with liv signing the reigning masters champion, the only european to ever win the u.s. open and the masters. this is a big get for liv and really, or really calls into question the future of the potential merger. neil: and what about the future of the pga tour itself? >> well, that's the big question. we're ultimately talking about tradition versus trillions. and by that, i mean, clearly, the pga is steeped in tradition. it's the preeminent name in governor around the world, but you're ostensibly battling a would-be adversary with almost limitless pockets in the follow e form of the saudis. their p if if has a rumored $762 billion in it, they put a mere $2 billion on the table really as life support for the pga with another $1 billion offset in that june announcement. but again, we're coming to the point where if the pga is continual ally outspent and all of their major stars not named tiger or rory have already jumped ship, then you're running out of oxygen very quickly. neil: so there's no stain attached to it anymore, it seems. you know, when they were recruiting other mares months ago a -- can players months ago, oh, you're hooking up with a murder run the kingdom, that's gone now. i'm wondering where this goes now. >> and that's the crazy thing. this was the pga's battle to lose in the court of public opinion, you know, from a perception and optics standpoint, and they have done themselves no favors. from backtracking on statements regarding liv and banning and prohibiting their players from competing in liv-based tournaments, they were doing nothing to win the hearts and minds, to borrow the phrase, of not only their own players, but the fans themselves. and liv has taken a much more aggressive attack in terms of the way they're trying to approach media. they were mocked for not having a t contract, so they went to youtube. what do you think the future of young viewers is? not tuning in to nbc on sunday afternoon outside of the masters. it's getting that streaming contempt. they're taking an aggress cannive take. -- tack. -- aggressive tack. sports remains the best example of the free market. you're either 7 foot and dunk from the free throw line or you're not. you're a 29-year-old spaniard who won the masters and has earned the right for a $3-500 million payday -- neil: or you have a trillion dollars to piss away or you don't. 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