most beloved leaders in our nation's history. ronald reagan, the gipper, the great communicator, america's 40th commander in chief. he railed against big government. the nine most terrifying words in the english language are i'm from the government and i'm here to help and sought peace through strength. mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. 40 years after reagan's landslide reelection, the republican party faces critical questions. what does it mean to be a conservative? we fight for the true. we are not going to worry about what the left and the media say about us. what is the key to a thriving economy? it's innovation, not regulation. america can do for anyone what she's done for me. we will stop the spending. we will stop the borrowing. >> we will stop the earmarks. what is america's role in the world? >> we need to build a military fitted to the widening challenges in an ever more dangerous world. >> sometimes to avoid war by showing the top and the country faces even more challenges. would reagan even recognize the country in which we now live? tonight, candidate seeking the republican nomination converge in california to chart a new path for the grand old party. now is the time for choosing. welcome to the second republican debate of the 2024 primary. live from the ronald reagan presidential library in simi valley, california, we're inside the spectacular air force one pavilion where the stage is set for a showdown . i'm stuart varney of fox business and i am thrilled to be sitting alongside my co-moderator as fox news channel dana perino and ilia calderon, univision. good evening. well, thank you. >> thank you, sward. president reagan famously described america as a shining city on a hill. >> and tonight, seven candidates will make the case they should be the one to lead that city into a brighter tomorrow. >> but first, they have to convince you, the voters. >> please allow me to welcome our spanish speaking audience. >> we're going to suggest that all this will take place in under ronald reagan. los republicanos también buscan salvador. >> but alas, we might as well party to give any. and good evening. so let's meet the candidates who have qualified and chosen to be on this stage tonight. they are positioned by the order. they rank in the polls with the highest polling candidate in the middle standing center stage. florida governor ron desantis, and the governor entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy and the former south carolina governor nikki haley and south carolina senator tim scott. former new jersey governor chris christie. on the wings tonight, former vice president mike pence and north dakota governor doug burgum. we have questions on a wide variety of issues important to primary voters. >> candidates get one minute to answer and 30 seconds to respond. if singled out. >> when that time runs out, we'll all hear this. >> we have a lot of ground to cover, so please keep it civilized. let's get going. we are in the spacious, sunny place tonight, designed to reflect the very nature and character of ronald reagan. it's a place that makes you proud to be an american. yet today, our nation is drowning in division and instability. voters say they dread the 2024 election and find politics exhausting, too. >> in three, americans think the country is on the wrong track. and three in four say they the economy is not in good shape. >> prices are up 18% since 2020. more than half of the us population now has little access to childcare. 85% of americans say that personal finances are a source of stress. >> americans want to believe a leader who says, you can follow me. i've got you. don't worry. president biden is trying to do that with biden-nomics. >> and yesterday, he joined the picket lines where autoworkers are demanding more wages and job security. it's not just scott. >> he recently reacted by praising ronald reagan for firing air traffic controllers in the 1980s, saying, you strike. >> you're fired. would you fire thousands of striking auto workers today, senator? >> obviously, the president united states cannot fire anybody in the private sector. however, we should look back at the first bill in congress under joe biden. the first bill had $86 billion for the union pensions because it continued over promise yet under-deliver. money. they want more benefits. working fewer hours. that is simply not going to stand. i said in the finance committee hearing, when a widow came before the committee who has promised pensions from the unions for $1,000 a month. unfortunately, it had been cut to a thousand dollars a month. we must make sure that we honor the commitments that we make. and one of the ways that we do that do not overpromise and then under-deliver and leave the taxpayers on the hook. i'll say this. >> joe biden should not be on the picket line. he should be on the southern border working to close our southern border because it is unsafe, wide open, insecure border, leading to the deaths of 70,000 americans in the last 12 months because of fitting. no. it is devastating. every county in america is now a border county because fitting all has devastated americans in every single state. i will also say 6 million illegal crossings since joe biden has taken office and he eliminated title 42. the one thing he should do is finish the wall. reinstate title 42 and get the job done. >> well, i can promise you that we are going to have a lot of questions on the border and immigration. but in the meantime, we do want to talk about the economy and jobs. and especially i want to talk about this strike for just a moment more. mr. ramaswamy, you've said you really empathize with the strikers. you're standing next to senator scott. you do agree with what he said or do you think he's wrong? >> i agree with some of what he said, for sure. i like the spirit of it. i'll say that i don't have a lot of patience for the union bosses. i think that's where he and i actually have a common view. i do have a lot of sympathy for the workers. >> however, people are going through real hardship in this country. i've been through hardship growing up. my father stared down layoffs at ge under jack welch's tenure at the gm plant in even dale, ohio. my mom had to work overtime in nursing homes in southwest ohio to make ends meet and pay off our home loan. so i understand that hardship is not a choice. but victimhood is a choice. and we choose to be victorious in the united states of america. you know what? if i was giving advice to those workers, i would say go picket in front of the white house in washington, d.c. that's really where the protest needs to be. disastrous economic policies that have driven up prices, that have driven up interest rates and mortgage rates. at the same time, wages remaining stagnant. what we need is to deliver economic growth in this country, unlock american energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear energy, put people back to work by no longer paying them more money to stay at home, stabilize the u.s. dollar itself and rescind a majority of those unconstitutional federal regulations that are hampering our economy. that is how we unleash american exceptionalism. and that's not a democratic vision or a republican vision. that is an american vision that we embrace economic growth and capitalism is still the best system known to man to lift us up from poverty. and we should not apologize for it. >> that's what it means to be an american. >> together, the ceos of general motors, ford and stellantis make 336 times the number of rank. the number of rank and file workers. >> that's just part of what a wider income inequality trend in the country. the richest 1% now controls one fifth of all income. >> vice president pence, last week you said you side with american workers, but you also support how these companies operate. which is it? >> well, thank you for the question. and i want to thank univision and fox business for assembling such a wonderful forum. >> look, i do disagree with something tim scott just said, joe biden doesn't belong on a picket line. he belongs on the unemployment line. >> i mean, look, i'm from the second leading manufacturing state in the country per capita. i was governor of the state of indiana. we brought 12,000 factories back to america during our administration. i know something about manufacturing. and i've got to tell you, while while the union bosses are talking about class warfare and talking about disparity in wages, i have to tell you, i really believe what's driving that is a biden nomics has failed. wages are not keeping up with inflation. auto workers and all american workers are feeling it and families are struggling in this economy. >> and joe biden's green new deal agenda is good for beijing and bad for detroit. we ought to repeal the green new deal, get rid of the mandates and subsidies that are driving american gasoline, automotive, manufacturing into the graveyard. >> and beyond that, also, as president of the united states, i'll be standing with workers all across america, and i'll be standing for the right to work of every american to join a union or not join a union as they decide. >> so, scott, you mention when you catch a response, there's no doubt that joe biden needs to be fired. that's why i'm running for president. i look forward to being the next president of the united states. i will also say, i know america can do for anyone what she's done for me. it's why we're focusing on restoring hope, creating opportunities and protecting the america we all love growing up in a single parent household. i wondered if the american dream would work for a kid in the inner city. i've got good news for every single child, whether you're in the inner cities of chicago or the rural parts of iowa. america and the dream. it is alive. it is well, and it is healthy. >> god bless these united states of america. governor haley, the president, i think we need to look at exactly what happened. >> biden showed up on that picket line. but why are those workers actually there? it's because of all of the spending that he has pushed through in the economy that's raised the inflation. >> so when you look at the fact that we are paying higher gas prices, higher grocery prices, $7,000 more a year for families. what we need to do is i came out with an economic plan. eliminate the gas and diesel tax so that they have more money in their pocket. let's focus on our going after middle america and cutting taxes for middle america and collapsing those brackets. >> let's get rid of unfair distortions like the state and local tax that they give to wealthy people. and in blue states and not end paid by red states. >> and let's make sure we make the small business taxes permanent. they only made those temporary . they made the corporate taxes permanent. let's focus on what it takes to get more cash in the pockets of workers. that's what we'll be able to deal with. strikes like this not sitting on a picket line like joe biden is. >> thank you, governor haley. we have other questions to get to about the economy. i don't mean to interrupt. i'm sorry. allow me to. allow me to sort of have to jump in because we're missing the point. >> and every other network is missing the point. the reason why people are striking in detroit is because joe biden's interference with capital markets and with free markets. the subsidies, we're subsidizing the auto makers and we're subsidizing the cars and a particular kind of car. not every car. we're particularly we're subsidizing electric vehicles. and when you decide that we're going to take all of your taxpayer monies, take $1,000,000,000, subsidize a certain type of vehicle, and the batteries come from china. china controls 85% of the rare earth minerals. they're called rare earth because they're measured in parts per million. china is moving £100,000 of earth in indonesia. in africa, they're literally destroying the planet so that we can they can make a battery that's in a car, subsidize it here. that's why they're striking, because they need two thirds less workers to build an electric car. joe biden, this strike is a joe biden speech we're going to meet. but allow me to put the question to governor christie. the government will shut down if congress does not reach a deal by the end of this week. >> vice president pence warns that politics of, quote, trumped populist priorities like mr. ramaswamy are a road to ruin for the gop if the government shuts down. >> should voters blame populist republicans ferociously? everybody who's in washington, d.c., they get sent down there to do the job, and they've been failing at doing the job for a very long time. and let's be honest about this with the voters. you know, during the trump administration, they added $7 trillion, $7 trillion in national debt. and now the biden administration has put another 5 trillion on and counting. they have failed and they're in the spot they're in now because none of them are willing to tell the truth. none of them are willing to take on the difficult issues. they just want to keep kicking the can down the road. and the inflation that nikki spoke about is absolutely right. and it's caused by government spending. and that's why people all across this country are suffering tonight. and yet we don't get any answers because joe biden hides in his basement and won't answer as to why he's raising the debt the way he's done. and donald trump, he hides behind the walls of his golf clubs and won't show up here to answer questions like all the rest of us are up here to answer. he put 7 trillion on the debt. he should be in this room to answer those questions for the people you talk about who are suffering. and if the government and if the government closes and if the government closes about that, it's the blame. it is to the blame of everyone in washington, d.c., who has failed to do their job and just plays to the grandstand. >> the next question is, what about greensburg? we want to go where? here's what all we can go to washington. we must fight back. please respect the time. >> we can get it done. the government isn't this. you haven't spoken. please, the people in washington are shutting down the american dream with their reckless behavior. they borrowed, they printed, they spent. and now you're paying more for everything. they are the reason for that. they have shut down our national sovereignty by allowing our border to be wide open. so please spare me the crocodile tears for these people. they need to change what's going on. and where's joe biden? he's completely missing in action from leadership. >> and you know who else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action. he should be on this stage tonight. he owes it to you to defend his record, where they added 7.8 trillion to the debt that set the stage for the inflation that we have. now, i can tell you this, as governor of florida, we cut taxes. we ran surpluses. we've paid down over 25% of our state debt. and i vetoed wasteful spending when it came to my desk. and as your president, when they send me a bloating spending bill that's going to cause your prices to go up, i'm going to take out this veto pen and i'm going to send it right back to them. >> you mentioned me and the question i just want to address one question that is on the minds of a lot of moms and dads and americans. and i know that you've been thinking about it because childcare costs, they are up. they're topping $10,000 per month. some families are spending up to half of their income on childcare and they're having to decide assistance that fell apart last year. and for the moms and dads out there who, what can you tell them if you weren't able to get it through the congress, how could you do it as president? >> certainly one of the things i did as a member of the congress was to make sure that we protected the head start programs around the country, giving people the opportunity to pick and choose the place that they send their children. the challenges that we see today under the biden administration is that the costs for daycare has gone over $15,000 per child and the build back broker plan, he called it a build back better plan. it was going up to $29,000 the way we fix that problem is to make sure that we actually cut and give more americans their money back. when i help write the tax cuts and jobs act, we actually lowered a single mother's taxes by 70% on the federal level for dual income households by 60%. then we went a step further. we doubled the child tax and made it refundable. by doing that, more parents had more resources to make the decisions how to take care of their family. the one thing we should do is let the american people keep their money. when that happens, the greatest opportunit and the republicans border ilea mischaracterized a part of my view. i think this artificial division is unhelpful in our party. the real divide is not between the republicans on the stage and in the reagan library. i want to say these are good people on this stage. the real divide is between the majority of us in this country who love the united states of america and share our founding ideals free speech, meritocracy, the idea you get ahead in this country, not in the color of your skin, but in the content of your character. and the fringe minority in the democrat party that has a chokehold over that party. that's the real divide. so this is concentration and it's artificial. we need to unite this party. so we want to talk about immigration. the question of child care. we have we have i think you have to. we have we have was going to be millions of people without it. and so guess what? we planned. okay. when we passed, we passed legislation because we were child care and get you some questions, but you're going to have to let us move on. we are going to the admit a child can do it. it's infrastructure. and i haven't been given a chance to say 1984. >> president ronald reagan said the following the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though some time back a very they may have entered illegally two years later, president reagan granted amnesty to nearly 3 million immigrants, something no democrat or republican president has done since governor christie as governor of a non border state in 2010, you supported a path to citizenship. but when you ran for president in 2016, you flipped saying immigrants should be tracked like fedex packages. >> where do you stand now on a path to citizenship for 11 million of undocumented immigrants? >> the problem is that since no one has done anything since we first had this discussion 13 years ago, we're not in a position to be able to do any of that anymore. what we have to do now is first, treat this like the law enforcement problem. it is. our laws are being broken every day at the southern border every day. and joe biden and his crew is doing nothing about enforcing that law. they are letting it go. and by the way, they announced during the presidential race that we're going to let it go. and we need to have a president who acts like i did as governor. enforce the law first and foremost. and that means what i'll do on day one is sign an executive order to send the national guard to partner with customs and border patrol to make sure that we stop the flow, not over the border, but also to make sure that we send a much different message. we want you here in this country to fil illegally, we will apprehend you and we will send you back across the border from which you came. and the fact is that until we set a long order agenda in this country, not only now, but in the future, we won't we won't be able to continue this. and i look, i'll tell you this. donald trump failed on this as well. he said he was going to build a wall across the whole border. he built 52 miles of wall and said, mexico would pay for it. guess what? i think if mexico knew that he was only going to build 52 miles, they might have paid for the 52 miles. >> thank you, governor. governor haley. most illegal immigrants are coming from countries south of the border. you've seen the fox news drone . it's captured the steady stream of people coming into the country on a daily basis. in fact, they believe we have a live picture of it tonight that is happening right now live. in the last decade, the u.s. spent nearly $55 billion to address the root causes of migration but crime, poverty and corruption. they persist. and the number of migrants is only growing. are we wasting our money? >> well, what happens when joe biden waved the green flag ? it told everybody to come. and now we've seen 6 million people cross the border. we've had more fentanyl that have killed americans than the iraq, vietnam or afghanistan wars combined. we need to make sure that we are a country of laws. the second we stop being a country of laws, we give up everything this country was founded on. so we have to secure the border the way we do that is, first of all, defund sanctuary cities. you see what's happening in philadelphia right now. it's got to stop. >> we need to make sure we put 25,000 more border patrol and ice agents on the ground and let them do their job. i spent 400 miles down that border, and i'm telling you, border patrol agents aren't allowed to do their job. let's go back to remain in mexico policy instead of catch and release. let's go to catch and deport and let's move that we've been. >> what about the aid that federal taxpayers are paying to deal with the root causes? >> it's not working. the only aid that we should be spending right now is to secure the border. the southern border, the northern border, period, even coming together in midair can safe. and right now, americans are not safe. only when we fix the immigration system, only when we get the border secure should we ever look at putting any more money into this. our money should be about keeping americans safe. we're not doing that. joe biden's not doing that. and you mentioned congress and shutting down government. i'll make it clear we have to change the budget process in four years. in 40 years, congress has only delivered a budget on time four times in 40 years. if they don't keep the government open, they should not get paid. no pay, no budget. that's way we should have done with the census. >> done with the census. we have a question for you, governor. >> the census. china invested at 12 billion dollars in latin america just last year. >> they signed a strategic partnerships with seven countries, including mexico. and china's military ties to the region now include arms sales and training exercises. >> are you comfortable with china deepening ties with our southern neighbors? >> of course not. and the reason why we're in this mess is because the elites in d.c. for far too long, have chosen surrender over strength when it comes to the ccp. some people in our country got rich. our industrial base got hollowed out and they have been able to build the second most powerful military in the entire world. we need a totally new approach to china. we are going to have real hard power in the indo-pacific. like reagan to deter their ambitions. we're going to have economic independence from china, where we're decoupling our economy i banned the ccp from buying land in our state. we should do that all across these united states. we shouldn't have them in our universe. we shouldn't have confucius institutes. so what? you see a country in decline. our power is in decline. china is going to surpass us this decade. and if they do that, it's going to affect every single american household. as your president, i am not going to let that happen. i'm going to reverse this country's decline. we are going to choose strength ,not surrender when it comes to the ccp. >> america's america is not a country in decline. under joe biden, we are a country in retreat. >> this quote, universal deportation for all undocumented immigrants and their children. even if the children are citizens of the united states. under what legal premise would you expel us citizens? >> so the first thing i want to say is i agree with everything. the republicans on the stage are on the right side of this issue. militarize the southern border. stop funding sanctuary cities and end foreign aid to mexico and central america. to end the incentives to come across. but i do go a step further. you're right about that. earlier, i favor ending birthright citizenship, schip for the kids of illegal immigrants in this country. >> now the left will howl about the constitution and the 14th amendment. the difference between me and them is i've actually read the 14th amendment. >> what it says is that all persons born or naturalized in the united states and subject to the laws and jurisdiction thereof, are citizens. so nobody believes that the kid of a mexican diplomat in this country enjoys birthright citizenship, not a judge or legal scholar in this country. will disagree with me on that. well, if the kid of a mexican diplomat doesn't enjoy birthright citizenship, then neither does the kid of an illegal migrant who broke the law to come here. and as the father of two sons, it is hard for me to look them in the eye and say, you have to follow the law. when our own government to follow its own laws, that's how we really go the distance and solve this problem and restore the rule of law in the united states of america, because that is part of what it even means to be an american. >> senator scott, do you oppose ending birthright citizenship? >> what does mr. ramaswamy have run on that issue? yeah, there's no doubt. the fact that we think of the constitution in the 14th amendment, it was certainly written as it relates to slavery, not as it relates to illegal immigration that's been applied to illegal immigration. so the challenge that we face is, in fact, one that has to do with whether or not the people that come here are under the jurisdiction of our laws. and frankly, if you come here illegally, you are not. well, surviving a supreme argument. >> it's something i can't tell you. but from a perspective of the constitution, i think it's simple that clearly it was designed for slavery and, not for illegal immigration. i'll go one step further, though, when we have a conversation about the things that are happening on this and,t for illegal immigration. i'll go one step further, though, when we have a conversation about the things that are happening on thisall g. and i appreciate that because last debate he said we were all bought and paid for. and i thought about that for a little while and said, you know, i can't imagine how you can say that, knowing that you were just in business with the chinese communist party and the same people that funded hunter biden millions of dollars was a partner of yours as well. it's nonsense. i want to respond. these are good people who are tainted, a broken system. >> and it's not the fault of anybody who's a bit tainted by it. >> thank you for speaking while i'm interrupting. literally. you said by nightfall. if i may take a look here we on both sides. gentlemen, you'll have your time. one of the challenges, which is we have a book is on the issues that matter between this and china. everybody knows that. if i may if i may address on holding joe biden accountable. that's what we need to be. i actually agree with ron desantis speaker. >> at the same time, no one can either. exactly so if i may, i agree with ron desantis on china. >> when every other ceo expanded into the chinese market. you know what i did with my first company? we opened a subsidiary in china. but you know what i did was different than every other company. we got the hell out of there. and when i started my next company, you ran stride, right? when i tell you three years ago, we beat right when i started my next company strive to compete against the big excuse me, to compete against the beat that we would never do business in china. and i will say something if you think you have more than time to explain. >> well, if i was interrupted by a lot of people here and i want to be respectful because i believe you were respectful last of it. but i do not believe in these. we're sitting here in the reagan library. yes, i wish you would be my arnold reagan library, if i may. well, from what tim, from one admirer of ronald reagan to another, asked from one admirer of reagan to another, we cannot do deals without four years to get productive. i want to say let's have a policy debate on what's going on. let us help better have it out there. let's talk about this policy debate and the right answer. i mean, declare independence from china, cuba. and i will see that through vice president pence in 2017. the trump pence administration canceled doca, which put the legal status of 600,000 dreamers in the hands of the courts. dreamers work and they pay taxes as president. if the supreme court and stca, would you work with congress to reach a permanent solution for dreamers? >> well, first, let me say i'm glad. i'm glad vivek pulled out of his business deal in 2018. in china. that must have been about the time you decided to start voting in presidential elections. so we're not used to having participating in elections. so let me let me speak to this issue. number one, i negotiated with the remain in mexico policy, with the with the mexican government. we used economic power to bring the mexican government to the table. we built hundreds of miles of border wall. and despite what i said here today, we reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90%. and as president of the united states, i can do it again. >> and the truth is the truth is we need to fix a broken immigration system. and i'll do that as well. but first and foremost, a nation without borders is not a nation. and we have to secure the southern border of the united states of. america, i know how to do it and we will do it again. let me say one other thing about china vice and me say one other thing about china. >> would you negotiate with congress to give a solution to the problem that dreamers have right now? 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>> well, look, the only one on this stage who's done it for seven years, i ran the fifth largest office in this country at the u.s. attorney's office in new jersey. and we set records for the number of prosecutions that we brought that still have not been broken. and the reason was that we went after the crime that was affecting people's lives. and this president i will point in attorney general, and it struck that attorney general, that you are to put all the resources that are necessary to bring our cities back under control. the fact is they will be stretched. there's no about that. but that's what they take the job for, because they love the idea of enforcing the law. we've got to bring law and order back to this country and not just in our cities, but we need to bring order back. we need go on our back in our suburbs. people are threatened there. we need it in our rural areas. people feel threatened there and we need it in washington, dc also. and donald trump should be here to answer for that. but he's not. and i want to look at that camera right now. tell you, donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself i know you're watching, okay. and you're not here tonight, not because of polls and not because of your indictments. you're not here tonight, because you're afraid of being on the stage and defending your record. you're ducking these things. and let me tell you what's going to happen. you keep doing that. no one up here is going to call you donald trump anymore. >> we're going to call you donald duck. all right. i want to ask the governor, desantis, you fired a couple of prosecutors in your state, but as governor, i mean, sorry, as president, you would not have the ability to do that. how do you think about dealing with the root causes of crime, especially this revolving door of the criminals that just get out and come back and commit another crime while the crime in these cities is one of the strongest signs of the decaying of america, we can't be successful as a country if people aren't even safe to live in places like los angeles and san francisco. just being in southern california over the last couple of days, my wife and i have met three people who have been mugged on the street, and that would have never happened ten or 20 years ago in florida. we back the blue. we support the men and women of law enforcement are keeping us safe. we have a 50 year low and the crime rate. and yes, when i had two progressive prosecutors that weren't following the law in florida, i removed him from their post and the people of florida are safer as a result of it. as president, i will use the justice department to bring civil rights cases against all of those left-wing soros funded prosecutors. we're not going to let them get away with it any more. we want to reverse this country's decline. we need to choose law and order over rioting and disorder on a related subject, governor haley, there's a nationwide policing shortage. >> retirements are up, recruitment is in the tank and morale is at a record low. three years ago, you signed a pledge to support law enforcement. now pledges are a nice idea, but what's your actual plan to get more police on our streets? >> well, and i actually did it in south carolina, too. you know, what we knew in south carolina was you take of those who take care of you, we have to start taking care of law enforcement. but it's not just taking care of them with words. it's making sure that you follow through on what they do. right now, we have a lot of stolen guns on the street. well, these law enforcement officers, they arrest these people and then they go in there, let out the very next day. so law enforcement feels like they don't no one has their back. we have to start prosecuting, according to the law. we have to make sure we have the backs of law enforcement and we have to make sure that we're a country of law and order. but i want to go back to china because i don't think we spend enough time on that right now. we have to look at what government's doing to hurt us against china, too. you have a company, usa antibiotics, that produces amoxicillin, the number one antibiotic that we need. and right now there is a company in bristol, tennessee, that produces that. yet our federal government only gets it from china. we need to be focusing on companies that produce in america and supporting those companies that produce in america, not companies that are helping china go well. >> we're talking foreign policy later year. >> thank you, stuart. we're going to stay on the topic of crime because it affects all of us. governor burgum for the first time ever, a univision poll found that mass shootings and gun safety are one of the most important issue for latino voters. mental health concerns are not unique to the united states, but gun violence is. what is your specific plan to curb gun violence? >> well, first we know is understand is i think that the liberal left is seems to be just completely bent on prosecuting law citizens that are gun owners because every solution they have to this is take away the second amendment rights of americans and somehow that's going to solve the problem. but all these cities that we're talking about that showed the video of tonight, they have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. so we know that that's not what's working. but we have to do is get back to the core issues about the family. we have to get back to behavioral health and mental health. we've got to get back to actually enforcing the law. as these people talked about and like we've done in north dakota, where word that we've got the goal and we're on the track to being the most military friendly state in the nation, we've got the most military and the most support of what we're doing in terms of law enforcement, because the the morale is down, because we've been defunding the police, because they've been attacked in the press, the police have become the bad guys when they're the one they there's all these jobs available. america, why would you be a policeman if people don't you respect them? every time i see a policeman, the first thing i say is thank you. and so does everybody else in my family. and most of the people in our state, because they know we have to respect the people that are out there defending us every single day. can i answer your question? mr. ramaswamy? according to customs and border protection, about 90% of fentanyl is seized at official border crossings and 57% of the smugglers are u.s. citizens. how would you stop fentanyl brought into the country mostly by u.s. citizens, through ports of entry? >> there's two sides to this, and we have to be very honest about it. one is we do have to seal that southern border building. the wall is not enough. they're building cartel financed tunnels underneath that wall. semi-trucks can drive through them. we to use our own military to seal the swiss cheese of a southern border. but we also have to be honest, there's a demand side problem in this country to a mental health epidemic. i met family in iowa, two parents, kathy and derek. they lost their son, sebastian, 17 years old. he bought percocet on snapchat and then he died. why did he die? because it was laced with fentanyl. that is closer to bioterrorism, not a drug overdose that is poisoning. so it is our job to make sure that never happens. but it's also our job to make sure that 17 year olds don't turn to purchase it via snapchat. we have to bring back mental health care in this country, not with pump in pharmaceuticals, but with faith. faith based approaches that restore purpose and meaning in the next generation of americans. many of them are getting it through social media. and this isn't a republican point or a democrat point. but if you're 16 years old or under, you should not be using an addictive social media product. period. this is something that we can both agree on and we can revive both the mental health of this country while stopping the fentanyl epidemic that will kill more people this year than who died on 911. and i refuse to be a passive bystander sitting in the white house like the hollowed out husk of a current president we have. we will step up and address this problem to stand for americans and our children. president has been encouraging. tiktok waiting for urgent. and that is why. that is why everything he said i agree with that is why as commander in chief, i'm going to use the u.s. military to go after the mexican drug cartels. they are killing our people and the stories that i've seen in florida, we had an infant 18 months. parents rented an airbnb and apparently the people that had rented before were using drugs. the infant was crawling, the toddler was crawling on the carpet and ingested fentanyl residue and died. >> are we just going to sit here and let this happen, this carnage happen in our country? i am not going to do that. so i guarantee you on day one, this border is going be a day one issue for me as president. we're going to declared a national emergency. we will build the wall. we'll do remain in mexico. but those mexican drug cartels are going to be treated like the foreign terrorist actions that president and the president has to a different time. >> and vice president has five. good. last month, vice president pence, you said if elected, he would repeal obamacare mandates. however, you also made that same promise in 2016. and at that time, trump pence had congressional majorities for at least the first two years. and you did not deliver on that promise. so obamacare right now, it is more popular than ever. why should americans trust you if you become president to fix that? or is obamacare here to stay? >> well, first, let me speak to the mass shootings issue and then i'll answer that question. it's an important one, dana. >> look, i'm someone that believes that justice delayed is justice denied and as a father of three, is a grandfather of three beautiful little girls under. it. i am sick and tired of these mass shootings happening in the united states of america. and if i'm president of the united states, i'm going to go to the congress of the united states and we're going to pass a federal expedited death penalty for anyone involved in a mass shooting so that they will meet their fate in months, not years. it is unconscionable that the the parkland shooter, ron, is actually going to spend the rest of his life behind bars in florida. that's not justice. we have mete out justice and send a message to these would be killers that you are not going to live out your days behind bars. you're going to meet justice in this. >> but does that mean obamacare is here to stay? >> well, thank you for reiterating the question, cause i'd love to answer it. >> look, you guys, i think it's one of the i think it's one of the choices here. >> you know, my former running mate, donald, actually has a plan to start to consolidate more in washington, d.c., consolidate more power in the executive branch, former president of the united states. it's my intention to make the federal government smaller by returning to the states, those resources and programs that are rightfully theirs under the 10th amendment of the constitution. that means all obamacare funding, all housing funding, all hhs funding, all of it goes back to the states. we will shut down the federal department of education. we will allow states to innovate. we're going to revive federalism in america. and states are going to help bring america back. david, still, go ahead. may i remind everyone to keep within time frame so that we can get as many questions in as possible? this question for governor desantis, over 26 million americans don't have insurance. >> governor desantis, two and a half million of them are in your state. that's worse than the national average. >> can americans trust you on this? well, i think this is a symptom of our overall economic decline. everything has gotten more expensive. you see insurance rates are going through the roof. people that are going to get groceries. i spoke with a woman in iowa and she said, you know, for the first time in my life, i'm having to take things out of my grocery cart when i get to the checkout line, because the total goes up so quickly. so this is very real and people are hurting out there. so we've got to address the underlying problem with biden nomics, the overspending, taking all biden's rules and regulations. i'm going to throw them in the trash can on day one. you're not going to have to worry about that. we're going to open up all of our energy. we will be energy dominant in this country that will lower your gas prices. and what we need to do with health care is recognize our health care is putting patients at the back of the bus. we have big pharma, big insurance and big government, and we need to tackle that and have more power for the people and the doctor patient relationship. >> why is your record florida on insurance worse than the national average? >> it's our state's a dynamic state. >> we've got we've got a lot of folks that come. of course, we've had a population boom. we also don't have a lot of welfare benefits in florida. you know, we're basically say we want to this is a field of dreams. you can do well in the state, but we're not going to be like california and have massive numbers of people on government programs without work requirements. we believe you work and you got to do that. and so that goes for all the welfare benefits. and you know what that's done, stuart? our unemployment rate is the lowest amongst any big state. we have the highest gdp growth about any big state and even cnbc, no fan of mine ranked florida the number one economy in america. >> we're moving on the topic of health care, governor haley. health care is the leading cause of bankruptcy for american families, accounting for two thirds of all personal bankruptcies. as president, how would you protect americans who get sick from financial ruin? >> first of all, how can we be the best country in the world and have the most expensive health care in the world? we have an issue. my mom was in the hospital and when she was in the hospital, they tried to bring her a couple of tylenol and she said, don't need it. and they said, honey, go ahead and take it because you're paying for it anyway. why is it that when we got the bill, the insurance company in the hospital negotiated, the bill for her without her having anything to do with it? when i am president, we will break all of it from the insurance company to the hospitals to the doctor's offices, to the pbms, to the pharmaceutical companies. we will make it all transparent because when you do that, you will realize what the problem is. second thing is, you've got to deal with tort law. >> the lawyer, the doctors don't give you the ten tests because they want to. it's because of the 90% chance they'll get sued. and then we need to bring competition back to health care, get rid of certificate of need systems and make that they can compete. we have to put the patient in the driver's seat. been in the back seat for way too long. and once we give the patient the ability to decide their health care, deciding which plan they want, that is when we will see magic happen. but we're going to have to make every part of the industry open up and show us where their warts because they all have them. >> and we need to fix this on behalf of the governor, and that's what we're going to do. you have. do you have a better way? and 30 seconds. >> yes. we're not we're not talking about the real problem ever. we about why do we have the most expensive health care in the world? it's because the federal government got involved the same way they did with aids and they said we're going to subsidize a particular kind of software. back in 2008, under obama and they said, hey, we're going to do this is going to make every more productive. all of you that are watching have been to a doctor's when the doctor's got his back to you in their hands on a keyboard. the the only industry in the world that's ever absorbed $1 trillion of it and became less productive. they saw less patients per day as u.s. health care because of they were subsidizing a certain kind of technology. it wasn't it wasn't about improving health care. it was about picking winners and losers. every time the federal government's involved, whether it's higher education, health care, now, the auto industry, things get more expensive and less competitive because we are going to move on the future of education in america. what's the government's role in finding a way forward? 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well, and school choice isn't the only answer, but i'll tell you, it's not out of a lack of trying that. we didn't try and get school choice in south carolina. what i'll tell you, first of all, is we have to acknowledge the fact that 67% of our eighth graders are not proficient in reading or math. over 80% of our eighth graders aren't proficient in history or civics. and recently they came out and said our 12 and 13 year olds are scoring at the lowest levels they've been scoring in reading and math in decades. so the first thing we've got to do is we've got to make sure we catch our kids back up. we have to make sure they can read a child that can't read by third grade. it's four times less likely to graduate high school. >> we need to do reading remediation. we need complete transparency in the classroom. no parent should ever wonder being said or talk to their child in the classroom. we need to make sure that we have school choice so that there is competition. we need to move all the programs from the federal government down to the states and let states decide what education looks like in their states. and we need to start building things in america again. let's put vocational classes back in our high schools and let's get our kids building the things that we know that we can make when we start to focus on that and really bring in that parental involvement, that's when we'll start see a difference. but we've got to get parents back included. we've got to quit spending time on this dii and crt and instead focus on financial literacy, on digital literacy, and on making sure that our kids know what they need to do to have the jobs of the next generation education. that's the subject of education. a question for governor christie. >> students in your state are getting high marks on their report cards, but minorities are not doing well with math and reading. >> black and hispanic students averaging 20 nine points lower than white students in new jersey. >> would you address minorities first? you have to address all students and look in our state. stuart, frankly, before i was governor, that gap was close to 50%. and what we did was institute more charter schools and more renaissance schools and more public school choice in new jersey with innovative solutions in like camden, where now we took what was the worst school districts in america during my time and we have now increase that by nearly 40% in terms of their proficiency. it can be done when you give people choice. but let's tell the truth to everybody about what this is. this public school system is no longer run by the public. it is run by the teachers unions in this country. >> randi weingarten and her crew are absolutely struggling. they are taking the worst of their members and defending them rather than advocating for our kids. and when you have the president, united states sleeping with a member of the teacher's union, there is no chance that you can take the stranglehold away from the teachers union every day. they have an advocate inside the white house every day for the worst of their teachers, not for our students to be the best they can be. a president, united states has to take on the teacher's union. i did it in new jersey, and i will do it as president of the united states. i have a question for you, governor. i have a question for you. but you guys, i'm sure this new black history curriculum says, well, develop skills, which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. you have said develop skills spite of slavery, not because of it. but many are still hurt for descendants of . >> this is personal. >> what is your message to them? so first of all, that's a hoax that was perpetrated by kamala harris. we are not going to be doing that. second of all, that was written by descendants of . these are black history scholars. so we need to stop playing these games. here's the deal. our country's education system is in decline because it's focused on indoctrinate and denying parents rights. florida represents the revival of. american education. we're ranked number one in the nation in education, u.s. news and world report. my wife and i, we have a six, five and three-year-old. >> this is personal to us. we didn't just talk about universal school choice. we enacted universal school choice. we didn't just talk about parents bill of rights. we enacted the parents bill of rights. we eliminated critical race theory. and we now have american civics in the constant tuition in our schools in a really big way, just like president asked for in his farewell address back in 1989. florida is showing how it's done. we're standing with parents and our kids are benefiting opposed to these standards. what is your message for governor desantis here? there is not there is not a redeeming quality in slavery . he and kamala should have just taken the one sentence out. america suffered because of slavery. but we've overcome that. we are the greatest nation on earth because we faced our demons in the mirror and made a decision. so we think that all of the issues you talked about, crime and education, health care, we always think that those issues go back to slavery. >> here's the challenge, though. black families survive of slavery. we survive poll taxes and literacy tests. we survive discrimination being woven into the laws of our country. >> what was hard to survive was johnson's great society, where they decided to put money or they decided to take the black out of the household to get a check in the mail and. you can now measure that. and unemployment and crime, devastation. if you want to restore hope, you've got to restore the family, restore capitalism and put americans back at work together as one american family. our nation continues to go in the right direction. it's why i can say i have been discriminated against. but america is not a racist country. never, ever doubt who we are. >> we are the greatest country on god's green earth. and frankly, the city, the hill needs a brand new leader. >> and i'm asking for your. i'm going to have a question for you, mr. ramaswamy, over point 7 million students and over 18,000 public schools nationwide have the ability to change their identity without parental notification. governor told stuart last week that he would pass a federal law to protect parental. would you try to do the same? i have to be very clear about this. transgenderism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. we have to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is. i met two young women early in this campaign on parental rights school. parents have the right to know. and you know what the hypocrisy of this is. even new hampshire failed to actually pass a piece of legislation here. the very people who say that this increases the risk of suicide. they are also the ones saying that parents don't have the right to know about that increased risk of suicide. and i'm sorry, it is not compassion it to affirm a kid's confusion. that is not compassion. that is cruelty. i met two young women, chloe and katie, early in this campaign who are in their twenties now, regret getting double mastectomies and a hysterectomy. one of them will never have children. and the fact that we allowed that to happen in this country is barbaric. >> so i will ban mutilation or chemical castration. >> and parents have absolute right to federal law that says prevent. parents should have that right. we are going to require states absolutely have to follow that through. we stand for parental rights. >> yes. in your state, this is you do not have a law that says parents can't be notified. but you want to be president. would you try to pass a federal law to say parents have that right? >> i think this is a states issue. but i do want to say something because all night long we've been talking about issues, how it's broken in washington. and i respect all of the people on the stage here for their 100 plus years of public service. thank you. but the reason we're not talking about education or health care or safety, a problem in north dakota is because we have a business leader. i've got more experience as a business leader than i think this whole group combined. i know i've created more jobs than everybody else on stage. thousands of high paying jobs that have real meaning. so as a business leader, you come in and you treat the taxpayer like a customer. so in north dakota, instead of fighting with the teachers unions, we actually created a k-12 coordinating council. >> everybody gets in the room and the customer is the student stand that this is an issue that many people in america really concerned about, worried about, about parents and notification and schools. >> yes. and that's why we have these platforms of innovation. that's why you have states. there are certain things the federal government is supposed to do. it's not the department of education that needs to be assembled. we got to move it back to states, do what we did in north dakota, instead of like, oh, here's a choice school and here's an old here's an old school. the old way with the teachers union. the kids are trapped. we made every school in north dakota an innovation school. every school got out from under the red tape. and the things that helped teach the values that we're trying to get. like for like ffa, like boys go for they can get credit for all of that stuff. and by the way north dakota is now at the top of the media scores in the country right now. >> vice president pence, the department of homeland security, warns that violence against lgbtq people is on the rise and intensifying. according to a recent study, members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes. as president, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination? >> as president of the united states, i'll i'll stand up for the safety and the civil liberties of every american from every background. and i want the american people to know that. but i want to answer the question as well. the data that you just asked of doug burgum, because by way of full disclosure, chris, you've mentioned the president's situation. my wife is an a member of the teachers union. but i got to admit, i have been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years. >> and the full disclosure? look, education is a state and local function. the state of indiana had one of the very first school choice programs in the country. and when i was governor, the state of indiana, we doubled it. and as your question, dana, let's let's be very, very clear. when the landmark community schools in iowa had a policy, you couldn't you had to have a permission slip. >> that's crazy. we're going to stand up for the rights of parents and we're going to pass a federal ban on trans gender, chemical or surgical surgery anywhere in country. we've got to protect our kids from this radical gender ideology agenda. and we've got to empower parents at the state level with with the ability to choose where their kids go to school, whether it's public, private, parochial or homeschool. >> you empower parents and our schools will straighten up and reflect our values and focus on the basics faster you could possibly imagine. >> next subject. can just say one thing. china is designed with china. china is investing. >> if you talk over everybody, we lose time. china is investing heavily in their tech companies. >> $280 billion every year on semiconductor to research and development. >> that is one chip's act per year. governor desantis, you say like google and matter have too much power. >> doesn't going after them give china an edge? no. i think if you look at how our societies develop, they have huge amount of power over our society. they've cracked down on free speech. we're not saying you don't want to do business, but you want it to be a free market. and right now they're monopolies. but this issue of china, i think, is really going to be fundamental. we have subcontracted out so much of our national needs to the ccp. we rely on them for a whole host of issues. we need to reshore and we need to decouple all those important industries. we need to get that back. in the united states, they are our top geopolitical adversary by a country mile. gigi peng's got huge ambitions, not only in the asia-pacific, but as you mentioned earlier, in our region. but ultimately, we've to beat them on the economy. and so that's what we'll do as president of the united states. >> governor christie, i wanted to follow up on this because 22% of american workers fear their jobs will be lost to a robot. >> and you said in the past that the free market is the way to go. would you retrain workers who lose a job to artificial intelligence and to do what? >> well, what i think artificial intelligence offers us is an extraordinary opportunity to expand well beyond the productivity that we have now and to have americans be able to be involved in that revolution data. you know, each time we have shown incredible innovation and progress in this country, what we've done with it is to expand all kinds of new, even unthought of opportunities for folks. yes, we have to do retraining for folks who lose some of their jobs. and we should be doing that and we should have more training available both at the county college level and the local level for people to be able to access it. so, yes, i would be in favor of that. but this is a much bigger issue than that. we can't be afraid of innovation. america has been the great innovator of this world over the last 250 years. a technological innovator, a manufacturing innovator and a freedom and governmental innovator. and that's why america has to continue to stand strong in the world. pro innovation, pro progress. and i will tell this as president united states, what i will do is to make sure that every innovator in this country gets the government the off its back and out of its pocket so that it can innovate and bring great new inventions to our country that will make everybody's lives better. >> mr. ramaswamy tiktok is banned on government day government issued devices because of its ties to the chinese government. >> you joined tiktok after dinner with boxer and influencer jake paul. >> should the commander in chief be so easily persuaded by an influencer? >> so the answer is i have a radical idea for the republican party. we need to win elections and part of how we win elections is reaching the next generation of young americans where they are. so when i get into office, i've been very clear. kids under the age of social under the age of 16 should not be using addictive social media. we're only going to ever get to declaring independence from china, which i favor if we actually win. so while the democrats are running rampant, reaching the next generation 3 to 1, there's exactly one person in the republican which talks a big game about reaching young people. and that's me and let me level with all of you. i'm the new guy here. and so i know i have to earn your trust. what do you see? you see a young man who, in a bit of a hurry, maybe a little ambitious. bit of a know all. it seems at times. i'm here to tell you. no, i don't know at all. i will listen. i will have the best people, the best and brightest in this country, whatever age they are advising me. will be probably many of the people on the stage included. that's how. i built my companies. i want to be challenged. i want people who disagree with me. that's what makes america great, because we're not a perfect nation. we're founded on the pursuit of perfection. and that what makes america great americans every week. and that is why we will end it once we win this election. >> i have to, john, i have to jump in here. >> i'm sorry. i wish romney was speaking. there's one person on this isn't infuriating because tiktok is one of the most dangerous social media apps that we could have. >> and what you've got, i honestly, every time i hear you, i feel a little bit dumber what you say, because i can't believe they hear the tick tock situation. what they're doing is these 150 million people are on tick tock . that means they can get your contacts, they can get your financial information, they can get your emails. they can just say these messages, they can get all this is. this is very boring. that's what this is very dirty. and i'm going to say you've got a new passion to make men and women in. china, not america. excuse me. i want two kids to go and get on the social media. that's dangerous for all of you. when you were in business with the chinese, that gave hunter biden $5 million. >> we can trust you. we? let me say something. tiktok. i think that we need to, man. i mean, you have 15 seconds, i think. excuse after 15 seconds, mr. ramaswamy. >> thank you. i think we would be better served as republican party if we're not sitting here hurling personal insults and actually have a legitimate debate about policy to following reagan's 11. he is the guy and the answer is that is what actually makes our country strong. and i believe we get back. i believe in these people and these are the people on the stage. they disagree. but let's have a legitimate disagreement. >> that's what i would say. stuart, can we get back to the question we can is on this. >> i'm going straight on the stage, sir, but we will have to cut your mike. >> and i don't want to do that. i don't. so governor desantis, let me go to you. experts say president putin has ordered assassinations across cheated on arms control treaties with the u.s. and seeks to work with china to force our decline. president reagan believed that if you want to prevent a war, you better be prepared to fight one. today, the republican party is at odds. aid to ukraine. the price tag so far is $76 billion. >> but is it in our best interest to degrade russia's military for less than 5% of what we pay annually on defense, especially when there are no u.s. soldiers in the fight? >> it's in our interests end this war. and that's what i will do as president. we are not going to have a blank check. we will not have u.s. troops. and we're going to make the europeans do what they need to do. but they've sent in money to pay bureaucrats pensions and salaries, funding small businesses halfway around the world. >> meanwhile, our own country is being invaded. we don't even have control of own territory. we have got to defend the american people before we even worry about all these other things. and i watch these guys in washington and they don't care about the american people . they don't care about the fentanyl deaths. they don't care about the community being overrun because of this border. they don't care about the mexican drug cartels. so as commander in chief, i will defend country's sovereignty. >> but it's not a territory. it's never been a territorial dispute. and 90% of the resources that we send over to ukraine is guaranteed as a loan. it is not 90% of the money that we send over there is low. what we can talk about this, but at the end of the day, 90% of the money that we send over there is actually going to actually not be paid by ukraine. it's paid by the nato allies. so i think it's a wonderful topic. i have been talking to. >> i will say this this debate, the fact that our national vital interest is in degrading the russian military by degrading the russian military, we actually keep our homeland safer. we keep our troops at home. and we all understand article five of nato's. we have to pull out the american people. i thought you said something about waiting until your turn to talk. so. well, all of that. so at the end of the day, i will finish my i'll be happy to do it and then i'll respond. >> i look forward to this one right now. so at the end of the day, when you think about the fact if you want to keep american troops at home, you attack on nato's territory would bring us and our troops in by degrading the russian. we reduce, if not eliminate it, to an attack on nato's territory. that exchange, we have to level with the american people. >> we have to level with the american people on this issue. the reality just because just because putin is not in putin's an evil dictator does not mean that ukraine is good. this is a country that has banned 11 opposition parties. >> that has happened. that is not our turn. we're driving. russia. russia. excuse me. excuse me. if you you like, you know, you'll have you'll have your chance in just a moment. the harrowing personal insult isn't helping. china is the real enemy. >> and we're driving russia further into china's arms. we need a reasonable peace plan to end this especially. but this is a country whose just last week reversed his handling. >> let us tell ukraine that's a green light to china to take taiwan. we need chinese. comes through strength to be governor crist, communist party of china, the real governor christie, the president, governor christie. >> president biden's first two years have brought china russia and iran closer together. >> all we focused too much on ukraine and not enough on this threat from the new world order. >> they're all connected, stewart. they're connected. the chinese are paying for the russian war in ukraine. the iranians are supplying more sophisticated weapons, and so are the north koreans now as well, with the encouragement of the chinese, the naivety on the stage from some of these folks, is extraordinary. >> look i understand people want to go and talk to putin. guess what? so did george w bush. so did barack obama. so did donald trump. and so did joe biden when he said a small invasion wouldn't be so bad. every one of them has been wrong. and the fact of the matter is, we need to say right now that the chinese russian alliance is something we have to fight against and we are not going to solve it by going over and cuddling up to vladimir putin. look, donald trump said vladimir putin was brilliant and a great leader. this is the person who is murdering people in his own country and now not having enough blood. he's going to ukraine to murder innocent civilians and kidnap 20,000 children. and let me tell you, if you think that's where it's going to stop, if we give him any of ukraine next be poland. this is a guy who said once, say this, a guy in 9091 who said that was the darkest moment, world history when the soviet union fell. listen, everybody. he wants to put the old band back together and only america can stop it. and we're not president. we will. >> i want to get to the governor burgum. he has a chance. >> i have a question i think you're going to really like, or at least you have experience in it. and we need to talk about america's farmers because there is a foreign policy connection here. the u.s. and china are in this fierce economic competition. it's hurting american businesses and there blowback against american farmers because china then targets them in retaliation. how would you, as president, protect farmers and ranchers from that kind of retaliation from a foreign government like china? >> well, first of all, we've got the best farmers and ranchers in the world right here in america. if they have a level playing field, they can outcompete anyone in the world. but this is part of the larger issue that we're talking about here, which is we're in a cold war china. the biden administration won't admit that, but we're also in a economic war through the what we're doing with agriculture and energy. and we're also in a war with them relative to cyber, where we get attacked every day in north dakota, every state, every school district, our tribes all being attacked every day by either china, russia, iran or north korea. and now we've got a biden administration whose whole policy is appeasement. they're out there creating, the world, making it less safe. $6 billion. they traded for five people. they've just now set a price on anyone's head who's a terrorist america, who's a student from america for a kidnapping. if you want more kidnapping, put a price on it. and then that's. and they're also helping iran get to have more closer to nuclear weapon than that, which pushes all of the middle east closer to china and russia. the whole thing is absurd. and then, of course, we're going to give ukraine to russia and then we're going to give taiwan to china and think that's a foreign policy that will make our nation less, less successful, make us more poor. and at the core of all that is energy policy, because china imports 10 million barrels of oil a day. they're the largest importer in the world. and we've had four cabinet members from the biden administration there this summer, and none of them talked about u.s. energy. the first one to go to each of those countries was kerry to talk about the folly of the climate, climate policy, which is making the world less stable. it's empowering dictators. it's not about climate change that we need worried about. it's about the biden climate policies that are actually the existential threat to america's future. >> and you cannot speak about that, amy. >> mexico's president called who supports sending u.s. military into the country, quote, those scoundrels. >> mexico is the united states most important trade partner in border security. >> you say you will send special operations to attack the cartels in mexico. so this means boots on the ground drone. it means special operations. it's how we deal with our terrorists. and what you need to do is understand that mexico's not being a good partner. if we lost 75,000 americans last year, mexico's not being a good partner. if they're letting the cartels get away, what they're getting away with. >> what we will do is we will make sure that we send in our special operations and we will take out the cartels, will take out operations, will take out anything that's doing it. but we're going to go after china because china is the one sending the fentanyl in the first place. and we will end all normal trade relations until china stop sending fentanyl. and then we'll do the special operations and we'll get it from both sides. this is where president trump went wrong. he focused on trade with china . he didn't focus on the fact that they were buying up our farmland. he didn't focus on the fact that they were killing americans. he didn't focus on the fact that they were stealing $600 billion in intellectual property. he didn't focus the fact that they put a spy base off our shores in cuba. they didn't focus enough on the fact that all of our law enforcement drones in america are chinese and we've got all these little surveillance cells. we need to start focusing on what keeps americans safe. >> that hasn't happened in a long time. as your president, i will make sure every american is safe and we'll do whatever it takes to make that happen. >> all right. i want to get to senator scott . you're all auditioning for the job as president of the united states. >> you want to earn these votes, but the world's problems land in the oval office during the presidential debates in the year 2000. neither al gore nor george w bush was asked about al qaeda. yet just one year later, al qaeda's attack on september 11th claimed nearly 3000 lives. >> and the farther we get from september 11th, the closer we are to september. senator scott, do you have no executive branch experience? what is prepared you to protect the nation from a major manmade national security crisis? one of the things i've had the good fortune of doing is serving on committees in the united states senate, like the senate armed services committee. i'm on the senate foreign relations committee, both on the finance committee and the banking. talk about addressing the issue of fear. now, i've written the legislation, passed it through the banking committee and the senate that would freeze the assets and sanction the accounts of mexican cartels. there are weapons that we have within the arsenal that was able to get past 23 to 0 in the polarizing senate as it is. i've also understood without question the fact that if you look at the detail before 911, there was information, intelligence that was available that suggested an attack was coming. having the right intelligence partners with us is key to making sure that we prevent the next 9/11 from ever happening. having that experience for the last ten years is really important in getting the job done. >> there's 30 seconds to you, mr. pence. well, i think you asked the question about executive experience. i think it's vitally important, and i stand before you today as a candidate for president, because i think this country is in a lot of trouble. and you hear the fire on the stage tonight. you hear the fire in all of our voices. and it's because joe biden is weak in this country at home and abroad. this is a time for those of us that have the experience, the tested experience and a commitment to the conservative agenda that ronald reagan brought forward in this party of a strong national defense standing with our allies, standing up to our enemies, supporting limited government and traditional values need to step forward because, frankly, party does face a time for choosing, as i said at the top of this debate, whether we're going to stand on the foundation of that conservative agenda that ronald reagan poured or whether we're going to follow the siren song of populism unmoored to conservative principles. >> the most experienced, most qualified and most consistent conservative in this field. >> and i'm ready to lead america at home and abroad. on dame. time for, choosing to go to a break. >> you going to go to a commercial break? 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well, look, i think that we do have to run through the courts and ge that's easy. mr. ramesh, and it addresses the national debt as well as brings down prices, put people back to work. we are using money to pay people more to stay at home than to go to work. that is wrong. that contributes to our supply chain crisis. it contributes to inflation. that's the easiest way to unlock this economy. and here's the other thing we have to put federal reserve back in its place. this an agency that has gone rogue. so in january 2026, when i have the opportunity as our next commander, chief, we will have a new chairman of the federal reserve who places priority on dollar stability. and then most importantly, packing 75% of the administrative state, reduce the federal employee headcount by 75%, rescind 50% of unconstitutional federal regulations that shackling businesses both large and small. i've offered a very clear, practical plan to do it. that's how we unleash the economy. that's how we revive the integrity of a three branch constitu tional republic rather than this technocracy. >> it is the administrative response place. i think one of the signature accomplishments of our administration was in just a few short years, we achieved energy independence. we became a net exporter of energy for the first time in 75 years. but on day one, joe biden declared war on energy, which was no surprise because when joe biden ran for president, he said he was going to end fossil fuels. and they've been overtime to do that ever since. if i'm president of the united states, we're going to open up federal lands. we're going to unleash american energy. we're going have an all of the above energy strategy. and i have a plan that actually would not only reclaim energy independence, but in 2006, america lost our as the leading energy producer on earth, i believe the next ten years with the right policies and an experienced leadership in the white house, we can reclaim our role as the leading energy producer on earth, and that'll grow the american economy for generations to come. >> governor haley, reaction to that place of leading an energy state. >> could i answer the energy crisis? governor haley, do you know the first thing i'll say is what i saw at the united nations is national energy security is national security. we need a president that understands and we have to partner with our producers and make sure that we have backs. what you don't need is a president who is against energy independence. ron desantis is against fracking. he's against drilling. >> he's been against. you did it every day. he always talks about what happens. day one, you better watch out, because what happens on day two is when you're in trouble. data in florida, you ban fracking, you offshore drilling. you did it on federal lands and you took green subsidies that you didn't have to take. governor desantis, you mention you have the right to respond. >> 30 seconds. yeah, i just did a plan out in west texas for american energy dominance. we're going to choose midland over moscow. we're going to choose the marcellus over the mullahs ,and we're going to choose bakken over beijing. and we are going to lower your gas. we are going to get that job done because it's important for our national security, it's important for jobs. and that's one of the best ways to drive down inflation. >> go to desantis santos. so i do that because just this question is for our voters enacted a constitutional mandate before they didn't allow. no, it's not true. they banned it, but they voted that not only that not you're not that they didn't vote entirely wrong. they voted in. >> that's what we did onshore. we do do it in florida. yeah. we don't have as much as maybe west texas, but we do it. but that was the country. so that's just wrong. and let's just get real here. my plan will get the job done. we are going to be in it and that's what's going. and the voters didn't even vote. >> just man. moving on with this question for governor desantis. governor, as the only leader and excuse me, we cannot cover each other. >> we must respect each other's state, at least for sure. i'm ready to go to the santos. this is your question. >> the biden administration is bent on student loan forgiveness. but you say colleges should be on the hook when graduates cannot pay their debt. how does that address the cost of college? >> i know that the cost of college itself, because the colleges are going to have to make a decision. do we offer do we expand the gender studies? no. and some of those graduates may not have great learning optics. no they're going to focus on the things that really matter. they're going to make different choices, going to try to graduate people in four years. i also just want to come back to something dana asked last segment about 911, because i was just at the 911 memorial with the families. my wife and everybody is very touching to be there. and it affected my life because i ended up joining the military as a result of that. i've been a blue collar kid minimum wage and done in florida. i end up getting through yale and harvard law school and somehow came out more conservative than when i went in. and that is not easy to do. had a lot of opportunities to make money, but i wanted to serve. and i'll never forget coming back on the plane from iraq, landing in coronado, california, north island and feeling that breeze off the pacific ocean, say, you know what? i am lucky to have been born an american. and i think being able to serve and i'll be the first president elected since 1988 has actually served overseas in a war. i think that's going to help me as in chief, to know how you see these issues and understand that there are real lives at stake for people that wear the uniform. >> and we know that governor hailey's husband is serving right now as well. and we thank him for that. senator scott, the national debt has nearly doubled in your time in office. the approval rate for congress is at a mere 19%. if this were a business, you'd probably all be fired in washington. you're here tonight looking for a promotion in 2013. governor barbour, review for the senate. i'd like you to tell her you should be promoted to ceo of the nation instead of. >> it's certainly one of the things i'd say is if you look at our national debt of $33 trillion, i would love to have an opportunity to have this country pass a balanced budget amendment that would constrain spending in washington in the same fashion that it does. and every state in our nation, number one. number two. if you want to actually reduce our national debt, you have to grow our economy in order to grow our economy. you need to create about 10 million jobs to grow our economy at 5%. you can do that in three specific sectors. number one, the energy sector. we could create between three and three and a half million jobs if we unleashed all of our energy resources. >> america is the most we're the richest country. >> if you combine coal, gas and oil, why not unleash all of our resources? number two, we've lost 100,000 factories, 100,000 factories in the last 25 years. >> if we continued on my made in america plan, we could bring jobs back to america in a similar fashion that we did when i wrote the tax cuts and jobs. we actually lowered the corporate tax from 35%, the 21% restored or repatriated $1.7 trillion. we brought the unemployment rates african-americans, hispanics and asians to the lowest level in the history of the country. >> at a 70 year low for women. >> governor haley, would you think you think you would deserve the promotion? i think look, i appreciate we've known each other a long time, but he's been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that. he hasn't. they've only given four budgets on time in 40 years. jobs, the biggest the last four years. >> he voted for the spending. you don't make sure that you ask just to bring attention in south carolina. 12 years. where have you been? where we went? i have voted this thing has. >> here's what you've done. here's the thing that i find interesting. >> ron ryan, let me finish this guys have said here is the fact and i appreciate a lot of the things they're saying. nikki haley, only one up here who's gotten in the big fights and has delivered big victories for the people of florida. and that's what it's all about. you can always cut. but when when it gets hot in there, when they're shooting arrows at you, are you going to be stand up for parents rights, keep the state free? are you going to be able to all those things. and in the state of florida, because of our success, the democratic party lies in ruins. we have won the big fights. we have turned our state into a republican state. people respond to leadership. >> i've done it while others have talked about it. we actually have a ceo, which is what i think we do. if i may if i may just briefly interject here. zero based budgeting. that's the way businesses are actually run. start with zero as the baseline for the budget and see what's actually necessary. there isn't a blue state or a red state in this union that doesn't the federal government doesn't do it. >> but successful companies, including the ones that i've built as a ceo, will do it. and i think we need a ceo in the white house. i think that governor burgum runs us out of the way. yes. gosh, you didn't ask the only guy that's been attacked. you have energy questions. you don't ask anything. but i'm just going to say right now, when you nobody else has done it, the energy plans that have all been announced in the last month by these other folks on stage, we're already doing it in north dakota. the border plans already talking about we've got troops down at the border flying helicopter missions, north dakota from san diego to the gulf coast, trying to stop transnational criminal organizations from inflicting the invasion and the mass casualties in our state. and on the energy policy we're already doing. and it's not saying when nobody else done the big fights. north dakota was leading the charge. we won the battle to get the biden administration was ignoring the law. they were the first administration since truman that wasn't holding the quarterly required leigh sales, and we won that in federal court. voters we won that in federal court. we're fighting the biden administration on 20 fronts to say nobody's fighting the big fights. just look at the record of what we're doing right now. energy, economy, national security. i've been talking about it since day one. and now finally good. we're having the conversation about it. but we've got the answer in north dakota governor burgum. >> let's talk big government this this question for you. big government keeps getting bigger. one fifth of all new jobs this year are being created by government. governor burgum you say you want to shrink the size of government, but it has been a century since any president has done. >> why would you be any different? well, because we do. we do we've done it in north dakota. when i took office, we shrunk the state budget general fund by 27%. in the first four months i was office and we all the trains stop running on time. why? because you had a business leader that was actually there inside of every government job, there's ten or 20% of mind numbing soul work that even the state and federal employees don't want to do. and you can engineer that work out of the job that would free up right there at 20% of 2 million civilian employees. and by the way, we've got 10 million jobs open. they'd have plenty to do and they could be generating taxes instead of being paid by taxes. this is totally possible to do if you have somebody that understands because having worked in technology for 30 years, everything we had to do was to be better, faster and cheaper the next day. that's what we can do in government. that's what we're doing in north dakota. >> all right, governor desantis ,i want to ask you about something that i think is on a lot of republicans minds. this election could come down to less than 50,000 votes in three states. >> abortion was on the in six states in 2022. republicans lost all of them. next year, abortion will likely be on the ballot in arizona. >> that is a must win state governor. desantis. how are you going to win over independent, pro-choice in arizona? >> same way we did in florida. we won the greatest republican victory in a governor's race in the history of the state, over 1.5 million votes. we were winning places like miami-dade county, palm beach that nobody thought was possible because we were leading with purpose and conviction. i reject this idea that pro-lifers are blame for midterm defeats. i think there's other reasons for that. the former president, you know, he's missing in action tonight . he's had a lot to say about that. he should be here explaining his comments to try to say that pro-life protections are somehow terrible thing. i want him to look into the eyes and tell people who have been fighting this fight for a long time. i was at my wife and i today, we're at the gravesite of president and mrs. reagan. and i noticed there was a quote where it says every single person has purpose and worth. we're better off when counts. and i think we should stand for what we believe in. i think we should hold the democrats accountable for their extremism, supporting abortion all the way up until the moment of birth that is infanticide. >> and that is wrong. let me ask governor christie. governor christie, the republican governor christie, do you think the republicans can do that in arizona if this referendum is on the ballot there? >> yeah, because i did it in new jersey, dana. >> you know, it's. and why are all these other states losing? >> well, because they don't have leaders in those states who are leading the fight way. it should be led. and in fact, is, look, i was a governor of the only blue state that's represented up here. this is where the fight is really tough for republicans. and those are the states that were going to have to try to win if we're going to win the white house back. and what we did was 14 times, dana, in eight years, i vetoed planned parenthood funding 14 times. no one else gets it that much. the democrats just kept sending it to me. and i kept saying no, because i believe in life, but i also believe in states rights. and i think we fought hard against roe versus wade for decades to say that states should make these decisions. so we're going to have those fights in the states. but what you need is a leader who talk to people and make them understand that if you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life for the entire life, not just the nine months in the . and we talked a lot about fentanyl tonight, and we haven't spoken one moment about treatment, but we need to make sure that for the drug addicted 16-year-old on the for the county lockup, her life is precious, too. and we need to be providing treatment to cure this as a disease that it is. if you're pro-life, you got to be pro-life for the entire life. we start talking like that. they're going to do what i did in the blue, which was get reelected with 61% of the vote and won 78% of independents and 51% of latinos because i told them the truth from my heart. >> thank you. vice president pence, the latest univision poll found that 73% of latino voters think the republican party doesn't care about or is been hostile toward them. the hispanic community. only governor desantis has translated his campaign into spanish. how will you reach out to latino voters? >> well, i promise you that we're to continue to build bridges to every community in this country. and i'm incredibly proud of that tax cut and tax reform bill. i worked on capitol hill to help get that bill passed into law. the largest tax cut in american history. we saw literally the lowest unemployment ever recorded for hispanic americans, the lowest unemployment ever recorded for african-americans, year low for women. so i think the president of the united needs to be a champion for the american dream for every american. it begins with the unborn and the aging and the infirm, and it begins with every ethnic group in this country. and i promise you, if i'm president of the united states, i'll be a champion. i'll be a champion for the american dream, for hispanic americans and for every american. >> so help me god. senator scott, read reaction. >> yes. there's no doubt that if you lead by example, it's the best way to get the job done. if you look at my office in the senate, my chief of is the only hispanic female chief of staff in the senate. i hired her because she was the best, highest qualified person. we have what we need are leaders who lead by example . and i will simply say, i would love to finish my conversation with nikki as it relates to the job that needs to get done. nikki offered, a 10% ten cent gas tax increase in south. talk about someone who has never seen a federal dollars. she doesn't like $0.10 on a gallon in south carolina as the u.n. ambassador, you literally bring in $50,000 on curtains and a 15 million dollar subsidized location. >> next, you got bad information. first of all, i thought the gas tax in south carolina multiple against it is going to just go to you against the establishment. >> it's going to show ten to once when they wouldn't pass the gas tax, the establishment, the companies wanted me to do it so much that i said the only way i will. here's you have to do all three. all you have to do is go watch nikki haley on youtube. >> if you will give me three times the deduction in income tax, then i will look at your gas. yes, exactly right. secondly, on the 50th, there is a nice part. >> secondly, on the current duty mark ten, because obama bought those cars, did you send them back? 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>> yes. governor desantis, in order to try to beat president trump, who has a commanding and enduring in this race so polls don't elect presidents, elect presidents. and we're going to take the case to the people in these early states. we're going to do it in a state by state direction. and why? because as reagan said in his day, this is our time for choosing. we are not getting a mulligan on the 20 24 election. >> republicans have lost three straight elections in a row. we're supposed to have a red wave with inflation at 9%. it crashed and burned. not in florida, didn't we delivered it in florida. and so we've got to choose, right? we've got to win. and we need somebody that's going to be able to serve two terms. so in january of 2023, they'll be able to address the nation saying we turn the economy around, we secured the border and we fended off the threat from china. >> as your president, i will get that job done. governor christie. i believe i did. so you write something for everybody, governor. >> i believe excuse me and governor christie. i believe i did. >> so you write something on the card? no, no, but i'll certainly tell you go. >> yeah. look, i think i'm the only one on the stage who's been clear about this. i vote donald trump off the islands right now. >> and the reason i voted off the island and the and for any of the other people, every person on this stage has shown the respect for republican voters to come to express their views honestly, candidly and directly and to take your questions honestly. i have respect for every man and woman on this stage because they've done it. >> vivek, put your hand down for a second, would you? i still got i still got time. dude. >> so chill out here. look, this guy has not only divided our party, he's divided families all over this country, he's divided friends over this country. i've spoken to people and i know everyone else has have sat at thanksgiving dinner or at a birthday party. can't have a conversation anymore if they disagree with donald trump. he needs candidates off the island to be taken out of this process. make 15 seconds and 15 seconds, produce a single look. >> i have a different view on this. >> i think trump was an excellent president. but the america first agenda does not belong to one man. it does not belong to donald trump. it doesn't belong to me. it belongs to you, the people of this country. and the question is, who's going to unite this country and take the america first agenda to the next level? when we rallied behind the cry to make america great again, we did not just hunger for single man, we hungered for the unapologetic pursuit of excellence. so, yes, you're being shackles, respect donald trump and his legacy because the right thing to do. but we will unite this country to take the america first agenda to the next level. and that will take different generation. >> that doesn'

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