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texas, he is at the border. a hearing that is about to be underway. we begin with bill and those new pictures. speetwo good afternoon. border patrol sources tell us that this happens a lot more than people realize, but nonetheless, the images are startling. we will pull them up. law enforcement sources telling us that this happened saturday night in the rio grande valley, as a drawbridge camera shows a group of three suspected cartel gunmen crossing illegally into texas, a very heavy cartel area. as they are moving through the brush on the u.s. side of the border, they are armed with ar-15 style rifles. some of them are wearing body armor. i am told that elite border patrol agents responded to the area, look for these guys, but came up empty. this happened just days after an armed smuggler was seen here in eagle pass. look at these images released by texas dps. drones over this human smuggler who had a rifle on him as he was guiding a group of illegal immigrants across the river across eagle pass. he ended up escaping back to mexico. he was never caught. the north dakota governor and g.o.p. presidential candidate doug burnham has been here in eagle pass. he got a briefing from border patrol, was stunned by what they had to say. take a listen. >> so far in this sector, 98 different countries, people crossing, including syria, iran, china. direct to mexico. national security -- of this open border is going to be around for decades. >> illegal crossings are surging across the border. this is video from our drone team. one of the groups that have crossed illegal today. the del rio sector, it's been averaging between 70900 illegal crossings in recent days. lastly, we will talk about the fentanyl, which is always showing up in our border. take a look at the photos, cvp n -- arizona. they report the port of entry, one single day last week that their officers to seize 870,000 fentanyl pills, 14 pounds of pure fentanyl powder. they say the pills were hidden in paper, a car, and strapped to a human body. back live in eagle pass a short time ago, a group of house democrats, including joaquin castro, they were out holding a press conference, where they blasted and criticized the texas governor greg abbott, calling him on marriage for placing razor wire in marine buoys in the rio grande behind us. they say it is cruel to do so to migrants, but texas dps interviewed with his afterwards countering with the congressman had to say, saying no migrants have been mistreated, and texas has to step up, the federal government's void, because they say the federal government is simply not doing its job down here at the southern border. >> live in eagle pass, texas. thank you. president biden focusing on the climate today. republican numbers of the house and senate committee looking to speak over the border. arizona and less than an hour from now. sheriff mark daniels will be testifying. first, let's get to aisha huskey, tracking this from capitol hill. >> good afternoon to. this is going to be a rare coming together of republicans on the judiciary and oversight committees as they investigate how the migrant crisis is impacting those border communities in arizona. as they do that at the border back here on the hill, we are learning about new efforts to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. fox has now obtained a letter written by under spin chip boyd of texas, that is currently being circulated amongst the g.o.p. conference right now. this letter is basically saying that if president biden does not meet his list of demands, he will not vote for any money to fund the department of homeland security. his demands include signing that g.o.p. border bill into law, reimbursing texas $10 billion, and removing the secretary. i just spoke with congressman andy biggs, who's at the border right now, about this impeachment timeline. he said it's on number one question he's been getting from folks in arizona. >> what i tell people is i don't know that we have the votes just yet. i keep trying to tell mike my colleagues that we are past time for an impeachment inquiry, and certainly secretary mayorkas, who i always believed until recently was -- to be honest with you. >> leading tonight's field hearing along with connor's been glenn grothman. republicans are not alone in their dissatisfaction, though. arizona senator kyrsten sinema. called out new york city's democrats for waiting about the migrant crisis, come live in yuma for a day. i'm sure house republicans will love to see president biden, who was visiting arizona, perhaps speak a little bit. not going to happen though. >> sandra: not many are holding their breath. thank you very much. our next guest will be testifying at that hearing with cochise county, arizona, sheriff, mark daniels. what's your message at the hearing? >> good afternoon. let me just say, we are honored to have the congressional team in the hearing today. we are going to share our community, share the tragedies we've seen over the last, a little over two years. in less than 18 months, we have placed just over 2300 individuals in my jail for border related crimes. just under 2300, only 131 work -- they are people from the united states, international crime, smuggling fentanyl, illicit drugs, human traff trafficking. it is a crisis on our border. washington, d.c., the said administration, a couple failed to prioritize our border. this will needs immediate attention. >> sandra: it is not getting that. we had the president in arizona today. we carried some of that speech live earlier. no mention of the border. we know that you want to have more tension on it. will become a big enough political issue as we head closer and closer to the election, that democrats will start talking about it? speak of the biggest concern law enforcement have, federal partners that wear a badge, local police departments, is that it does not get politicized, but we are afraid it's going to be. politics has sadly affected our border. we have lost 290 people plus a day to fentanyl poisoning in our country. a stat, last year, 35 made fentanyl pills were seized in the four counties in arizona, 16 total, leading the nation in fentanyl pills. we have to secure this border for the country. >> sandra: and we have been hearing that from you for quite some time. can i get your reaction to these newly obtained pictures from f fox, new images of the suspected cartel women armed with a rifle -- she suspected cartel gunmen armed with a ri rifle? seeing them crossing over the united states. >> sandra, this is alarming, and we have created this scenario. the violent towards law enforcement, the volatility and violence toward citizens as a result of this neglect of border security in the country, that's where it always. this is the new normal. this is something i want to talk about, the fact that we have allowed our borders, and this is the new -- it's okay to have this amount of fentanyl, the criminals, people being exploited. migrants are being exploited by cartels. this is the result. the cartels are emboldened by what we are doing in this country. we have to make this a priority. until we do, it's only going to get worse. >> sandra: adding to the details we learned in a tucson sector? were you have seen the migrants arriving daily. 34%, the average of 812 back in june. is this a crisis that is escalating out of control at this point? >> it's a crisis that continues to grow. washington, d.c., and this demonstration -- failed to even acknowledge the problem. as long as the problem's not being acknowledged, and the opposite -- secretary mayorkas says that the borders are secure. that's a false narrative. cult is listening to that, continuing to exploit america. >> sandra: we know it's a huge job for you at the border. july -- when the biden administration, that is a huge job, and a huge task. thank you for your service. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> sandra: so far, president biden is the clear front runner for democratic nomination, so why are so many leaders like the new hampshire governor saying it's a no-go for joe? 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"the washington post" also praising fellow governor of michigan, wes moore of maryland, gavin newsom of california. and -- in massachusetts. the governor of kentucky. meanwhile, the former congressman will hurd, who is running for g.o.p. nomination, said the american people are eager for a reset for -- >> two-thirds of americans do not want donald trump or joe biden on the ballot. that's clear and has all is been the case. >> reporter: republicans have a wide range of candidates, democrats so far do not. >> sandra: many are starting to suggest that president joe biden will not be the nominee. our next guest is one of them new hampshire republican governor -- do you stand by that still? >> absolutely. i'm not saying it's deftly going to happen, but a greater than 50% chance that he is not on the ballot come november of '24. you will see two things happen. either he goes to the primary process effectively unchallenged, are your for now he collects the delegates, his health will not be good. he can use that as a reason to step out, and basically tell his delegates to go for somebody else and kind of be the king maker. it wouldn't be unheard of for the democrats to try to do that. the opportunity when someone comes this fall. i think of the deponent were to challenge him this fall, it would probably be somebody with a little bit of name i.d. nationally, maybe somebody who is not a politician. i don't think democratic governors will do it this fall. probably looking to be coordinated by jill and joe biden next summer. i am predicting probably at least one if not two people still in this fall challenge. making a run at it. i am meeting everybody. they have all come knocking. republicans and democrats all want to know how to win. obviously not just on policy, a fiscally conservative free-market guy. on the democratic side, they want to engage voters. i think it's very interesting. i'm a big believer that new hampshire is a great first filter for the rest of the country. we are meeting everybody. we will see who has the courage to step in the ring. >> i like that, fiscally conservative free-market guys. who would be the most business friendly candidate that you could think of? let's start on the democratic side. >> on the democratic side? we will be here a long time if we are trying to find a fiscally conservative democrat in this country. republicans -- we have a lot of options, no doubt about it. you have the former governor chris christie, you have the current governor, you have a lot of folks that understand the pillars of limited government, local control, fiscally responsible. things we told him we would get in 2016, did not quite pan out. wants to create a government, when they say they will drain the swamp, maybe someone who actually does at this time. my going to add 6 trillion onto my kids debt burden, your kids debt burden. folks to understand what being a republican is about, a great opportunity. the next six months is going to bury it out. >> sandra: your point is well taken. 2024 hopefuls have been hitting the trail today. carried a lot of those moments during our program earlier. you've got chris christie, nikki haley, donald trump on the ground. who do you think is going to resonate with voters in that state? >> whoever works the hardest. it's wide open. folks in new hampshire it will not -- who they are voting for until around christmas or just after christmas. kind of letting it all play out as deep as it can go. symbol fall apart. my sense is you will be down to 4-6 candidates by iowa, 4- five by new hampshire. when it becomes a one on 1 race, it's not the policy has comments the ones he does not have. for an incumbent republican presidents only be getting low 40 or high 30% in places like new hampshire, 60% of the people don't want them. even of his own supporters, recent polls said 50% would go to sunday also have given a good option. he is in trouble when you narrow down periods be when you say you are advising a lot of these folks who are knocking on your door. aside from how they should win, who do you want to win? who do you want the nominee to be? >> they have to earn my vote as well as anybody else. events for nikki haley. helping them all. going to do a bunch of events with will hurd, who you just heard from. helping them be the best they can be to see who rises to the top. >> thank you for your time. thanks for joining us. busy day new hampshire. obama appointed judge in the january 6th case, former president donald trump, can he get a fair trial in washington customer case is no. we will see what andy mccarthy and tom depree say next. president joe biden is pushed to go green, taking a hit as a battery maker he touted is now deep in the red. let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. ♪ the thought of getting screened ♪ ♪ for colon cancer made me queasy. ♪ ♪ but now i've found a way that's right for me. ♪ ♪ feels more easy. ♪ ♪ my doc and i agreed. ♪ ♪ i pick the time. ♪ ♪ today's a good day. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ i did it my way! ♪ i was born on the south side of chicago. it has been a long road, but now i'm working for schwab. i love to help people understand the world through their lens and invest accordingly. you can call us christmas eve at four o'clock in the morning. we're gonna always make sure that you have all of the financial tools and support to secure your financial future. that means a lot for my community and for every community. ♪ my most important kitchen tool? 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>> reporter: the court filings keep coming in multiple cases involving the former president. last night, a judge told both the trump team and the government to hash out their differences over a protective order. donald trump's team says they could meet next week to discuss it. did governments as they could meet this week. we are waiting to see with the judge decides. the order originally proposed by the governor would limit with the former president could say or type out on social media, or in person regarding the case. it began with a social post over the weekend where he rode "if you go after me, i'm coming after you." special counsel jack smith's team took out as a threat potentially to future witnesses in the case, even people in the special counsel's office. trance attorneys say that its political speech, and he was talking about rivals on the campaign trail. what the judge says. trump's team also wants to move the trial out of d.c., where you can expect a special counsel department justice to bite. trans attorneys are expected to file a motion to move the trial, but it's not up to them and not up to the special counsel. >> it's up to the judge. i think west virginia would be excellent to try this case. >> in a rare moment of agreement, congressman adam schiff from california and the former president donald trump, who are political enemies, they bolt dominic both want the trial televised. they have different motives for why, but they believe the american people should see what happens inside the courtroom. it's up to the judicial conference of judges, federal judges, who would give some input in that decision. she is presiding over this case. cameras are not allowed a federal court. it's unlikely that she would allow this to happen, but it's always possible. televising something like this is historic on many levels, but legal experts say it's unlikely this would be televised, given it's a federal case. of course, stranger things have happened and we are in uncharted territory as you know. >> sandra: we have learned to never rule anything out. >> reporter: never. >> sandra: thank you. is the former president out of luck if he can't get this trial out of d.c.? let's get the read from our legal eagles today, tom giuffre and andy mccarthy. tom, do you think this could happen? could he out of the washington, d.c., area? >> i'd say the odds of that are slim to none. i think it makes all the sense in the world for the former president trump to make the effort. it's not a favorable journey. i think you are likelier to find -- they are a trump voter. the odds are that bad. that said, the standard for transferring the case is very high. the constitution generally says you try more cases in the jurisdiction where the events occurred. i think he will face an uphill battle. i don't think there's much help -- but the judges will grant that motion. i think the trauma team's strategy here needs to be to question potential jurors aggressively, carefully and thoroughly, as is the right, to say even if you want to trump voter, can you still approach this case neutrally. >> andy, what say you? the former president says there's no way he could get a fair trial with the judge assigned to the ridiculous freedom of speech fair elections case. everybody knows this, so does she. he says he can't get a fair trial in d.c. does he have a point? >> i generally agree with tom, and i would just add that from personal experience, long ago and far away, it was the 19 1990s. terrace tried to to bomb the world trade center. in the shadow of the courthouse will dominic where we held a trial, across the screen from the fbi -- go across the street from the fbi headquarters, and the howard tunnel, that they also wanted to blow up. the fact that the case is approximate in terms of where it's going to be tried, to the scenes of real carnage and would be carnage that they will carry out, he's not the ticket to get out of the jurisdiction. one argument i think he can make, i don't know what traction, but i feel like smith has gratuitously thrown the capitol riot into the trial. trump is not charged in the indictment with any offense arising out of the capitol riot, and yet, after he filed the indictment, smith spoke for about two dominic 3 minutes, 2.e capitol riot's. i he's trying to throw that, like waving the bloodied shirt, into the case. if i were trump, i would harp on that, that i would not hold my breath waiting for them to -- >> do you agree? >> i think andy makes a lot of good sense. i agree with his comments on jack smith. i was surprised that he made the comments he did from the podium. especially an odd note for him to strike when he's accusing former president trump of wanting to try this case in the media, than making redo his comments, going beyond the bounds of what he can permissibly say. the special counsel to then make statements and arguments and rhetoric from the podium on allegations that is and he correctly are not really an issue with what he filed. it's not something you normally see out of the department of justice. >> sandra: it's part of the televised nature of this case, any part of you predict that could happen? >> i don't think so. i see this as someone who thinks it's a good thing that federal trials are not televised. don't throw anything at me, please. [laughter] i think they can make for bad trials. the important thing is the issue actually transcends this case, as important as this case is. it's not going to be -- as david said before. it is not the judge who will make this decision. it's the judicial conference. i think they would look at it in terms of would be a good thing in general to televise a federal trial? no doubt. >> sandra: very interesting. the revelations of the devon archer letter. does that underscore his closeness to hunter biden's business activities? how does that change things? >> i think it does change things. the whole devon archer situation has just been a constant flow, every single day it seems we are learning something with a constant narrative. president biden, no involvement in his son's business dealings, now learning he was on speakerphone, writing all sorts of things, and the white house's story has been evolving. they've been having to change their official line to account for this evidence congress has been doing a fantastic job in uncovering and bringing to the attention of the american people. >> something he had never spoken with his son about his business dealings to he has never done business. thanks to both of you. appreciate the conversation. the debate stage is growing. mike pence says he has met the donor threshold to join the first g.o.p. debate. and without any gimmicks to get him there. 2024 -- francis suarez says the so-called humans are paying off. he is next. what do we always sa? 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>> well, we are going to obviously spend money over the next couple weeks to get it there. for me, this is very different than for other candidates. a lot of them are well established national figures. for me, this is an incremental process. getting on the debate stage, introducing myself. having people get to know who i am. the impact on my fact that my parents were exiled from the country of birth, communist cuba, came here seeking freedom and have experienced the american dream, something that defines who i am as a person and it defines a city that i run. that's a compelling story. i know that i've dominic if i'm on a stage and have an opportunity to interest was myself to the country -- go opportunity to introduce myself to the country, then we will have growth. >> sandra: i mention the tactics because you were giving a dollar to enter for a chance -- senior in college they work for you, because you meant that threshold. who are you ready to support if you don't make it? >> look, i'm focused on making it over the next 12 days. i am excited about the possibility of telling that story of the national level. i am appreciate of of opportunities like this to be on your show to talk about our success. that will give us the volume to get to that percent threshold. then we will take it from there. >> thank you so much for joining us. we will watch to see how that turns out. it's forming dominic coming up fast three weeks from now. americans are racking up credit card debt at a record pace. is it a sign that inflation is not going fast enough? 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's the one this is deja vu all over again. the biden administration learned none of the lessons from the obama administration. that was supposed to be the solar energy company of the future. it went bankrupt as did dozens of other energy firms. we have spent as a nation well over $500 billion over the last 40 years subsidizing wind and solar industry. it only counts for a 6%. it is the worst investment the federal government has ever made. >> i am reminded up in michigan we are one of the largest school districts there. they were given all this money to buy electric buses and then they complained that they were breaking. they weren't working. we are getting pushed into this ev world while many can't even afford it. at the same time, anybody was tying to still drive their gas car, gas prices are going up substantially in the past month. $3.82 is the national average. what exactly is going on here? this ev push premature. >> we've got to start somewhere. the ev buses have improved since the last reporting period you have to look at the big picture. there's no reason to panic at this particular disco. president biden has initiated the investment act. that is led to $270 billion in private investments. a lot of that investment, sandra, your viewers should know is going to red states. 80% of the projects in green clean energy are going into republican held districts. we also see that 60% of the manufacturing, more than 7,000 jobs were getting solar factories in georgia. getting wind power factories in alabama. this is something that is incredibly good for the economy. it gives us independence from china. >> overall, it is -- landmark investment in green energy and a true success story for americans in both red and blue states. >> let steve respond. we are cutting our supply of oil here at home. we are growing more and more dependent on foreign nations when we are still in need of fossil fuels. that needs to be pointed out. while she's talking about limiting dependency on other countries and manufacturing here at home, we are having to turn to foreign nations for our gas now. >> we are losing $170 million a day. if we just kept up the pace of oil production we had under trauma. there is a company solar reported in "the wall street journal" last week. this company is going to get -- are you ready for this? 10 billion. not 10 million, $10 billion of taxpayer subsidies. my goodness, this is corporate welfare of the worst kind. what kind of investment of this? if these companies are so great, why do they need so much taxpayer money? go ahead. >> you name checked me. i will go and tell you this. i'm wondering why you're not talking about the subsidies to oil companies. we subsidize oil companies to the tune of billions of dollars. so did the green energy companies. you got to be fair and balanced when it comes to urinalysis. >> i know the statistics, sandra threw the wind and solar industry get 20 times more subsidies as a unit of electric power. the one we are identifying some of the perils of the government getting involved in picking winners and losers. we have seen it before. thank you for the debate. appreciate the discussion. thanks so much for joining us today. thank you to all of you at home for joining us. i appreciate that. i will see you back tomorrow. you can catch me every weekday at will 1:00 p.m. thank you for joining us. keep it right here because it is time for "the five." >> hello, everybody. on jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." joe biden getting blasted for refusing to stand up to the left's woke nonsense. elmar thinks it's time for the president to grow a spine. >> one of the things i hate the most about biden's he never stands up to woke nonsense and his party. he doesn't wan

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texas, he is at the border. a hearing that is about to be underway. we begin with bill and those new pictures. speetwo good afternoon. border patrol sources tell us that this happens a lot more than people realize, but nonetheless, the images are startling. we will pull them up. law enforcement sources telling us that this happened saturday night in the rio grande valley, as a drawbridge camera shows a group of three suspected cartel gunmen crossing illegally into texas, a very heavy cartel area. as they are moving through the brush on the u.s. side of the border, they are armed with ar-15 style rifles. some of them are wearing body armor. i am told that elite border patrol agents responded to the area, look for these guys, but came up empty. this happened just days after an armed smuggler was seen here in eagle pass. look at these images released by texas dps. drones over this human smuggler who had a rifle on him as he was guiding a group of illegal immigrants across the river across eagle pass. he ended up escaping back to mexico. he was never caught. the north dakota governor and g.o.p. presidential candidate doug burnham has been here in eagle pass. he got a briefing from border patrol, was stunned by what they had to say. take a listen. >> so far in this sector, 98 different countries, people crossing, including syria, iran, china. direct to mexico. national security -- of this open border is going to be around for decades. >> illegal crossings are surging across the border. this is video from our drone team. one of the groups that have crossed illegal today. the del rio sector, it's been averaging between 70900 illegal crossings in recent days. lastly, we will talk about the fentanyl, which is always showing up in our border. take a look at the photos, cvp n -- arizona. they report the port of entry, one single day last week that their officers to seize 870,000 fentanyl pills, 14 pounds of pure fentanyl powder. they say the pills were hidden in paper, a car, and strapped to a human body. back live in eagle pass a short time ago, a group of house democrats, including joaquin castro, they were out holding a press conference, where they blasted and criticized the texas governor greg abbott, calling him on marriage for placing razor wire in marine buoys in the rio grande behind us. they say it is cruel to do so to migrants, but texas dps interviewed with his afterwards countering with the congressman had to say, saying no migrants have been mistreated, and texas has to step up, the federal government's void, because they say the federal government is simply not doing its job down here at the southern border. >> live in eagle pass, texas. thank you. president biden focusing on the climate today. republican numbers of the house and senate committee looking to speak over the border. arizona and less than an hour from now. sheriff mark daniels will be testifying. first, let's get to aisha huskey, tracking this from capitol hill. >> good afternoon to. this is going to be a rare coming together of republicans on the judiciary and oversight committees as they investigate how the migrant crisis is impacting those border communities in arizona. as they do that at the border back here on the hill, we are learning about new efforts to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. fox has now obtained a letter written by under spin chip boyd of texas, that is currently being circulated amongst the g.o.p. conference right now. this letter is basically saying that if president biden does not meet his list of demands, he will not vote for any money to fund the department of homeland security. his demands include signing that g.o.p. border bill into law, reimbursing texas $10 billion, and removing the secretary. i just spoke with congressman andy biggs, who's at the border right now, about this impeachment timeline. he said it's on number one question he's been getting from folks in arizona. >> what i tell people is i don't know that we have the votes just yet. i keep trying to tell mike my colleagues that we are past time for an impeachment inquiry, and certainly secretary mayorkas, who i always believed until recently was -- to be honest with you. >> leading tonight's field hearing along with connor's been glenn grothman. republicans are not alone in their dissatisfaction, though. arizona senator kyrsten sinema. called out new york city's democrats for waiting about the migrant crisis, come live in yuma for a day. i'm sure house republicans will love to see president biden, who was visiting arizona, perhaps speak a little bit. not going to happen though. >> sandra: not many are holding their breath. thank you very much. our next guest will be testifying at that hearing with cochise county, arizona, sheriff, mark daniels. what's your message at the hearing? >> good afternoon. let me just say, we are honored to have the congressional team in the hearing today. we are going to share our community, share the tragedies we've seen over the last, a little over two years. in less than 18 months, we have placed just over 2300 individuals in my jail for border related crimes. just under 2300, only 131 work -- they are people from the united states, international crime, smuggling fentanyl, illicit drugs, human traff trafficking. it is a crisis on our border. washington, d.c., the said administration, a couple failed to prioritize our border. this will needs immediate attention. >> sandra: it is not getting that. we had the president in arizona today. we carried some of that speech live earlier. no mention of the border. we know that you want to have more tension on it. will become a big enough political issue as we head closer and closer to the election, that democrats will start talking about it? speak of the biggest concern law enforcement have, federal partners that wear a badge, local police departments, is that it does not get politicized, but we are afraid it's going to be. politics has sadly affected our border. we have lost 290 people plus a day to fentanyl poisoning in our country. a stat, last year, 35 made fentanyl pills were seized in the four counties in arizona, 16 total, leading the nation in fentanyl pills. we have to secure this border for the country. >> sandra: and we have been hearing that from you for quite some time. can i get your reaction to these newly obtained pictures from f fox, new images of the suspected cartel women armed with a rifle -- she suspected cartel gunmen armed with a ri rifle? seeing them crossing over the united states. >> sandra, this is alarming, and we have created this scenario. the violent towards law enforcement, the volatility and violence toward citizens as a result of this neglect of border security in the country, that's where it always. this is the new normal. this is something i want to talk about, the fact that we have allowed our borders, and this is the new -- it's okay to have this amount of fentanyl, the criminals, people being exploited. migrants are being exploited by cartels. this is the result. the cartels are emboldened by what we are doing in this country. we have to make this a priority. until we do, it's only going to get worse. >> sandra: adding to the details we learned in a tucson sector? were you have seen the migrants arriving daily. 34%, the average of 812 back in june. is this a crisis that is escalating out of control at this point? >> it's a crisis that continues to grow. washington, d.c., and this demonstration -- failed to even acknowledge the problem. as long as the problem's not being acknowledged, and the opposite -- secretary mayorkas says that the borders are secure. that's a false narrative. cult is listening to that, continuing to exploit america. >> sandra: we know it's a huge job for you at the border. july -- when the biden administration, that is a huge job, and a huge task. thank you for your service. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> sandra: so far, president biden is the clear front runner for democratic nomination, so why are so many leaders like the new hampshire governor saying it's a no-go for joe? 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"the washington post" also praising fellow governor of michigan, wes moore of maryland, gavin newsom of california. and -- in massachusetts. the governor of kentucky. meanwhile, the former congressman will hurd, who is running for g.o.p. nomination, said the american people are eager for a reset for -- >> two-thirds of americans do not want donald trump or joe biden on the ballot. that's clear and has all is been the case. >> reporter: republicans have a wide range of candidates, democrats so far do not. >> sandra: many are starting to suggest that president joe biden will not be the nominee. our next guest is one of them new hampshire republican governor -- do you stand by that still? >> absolutely. i'm not saying it's deftly going to happen, but a greater than 50% chance that he is not on the ballot come november of '24. you will see two things happen. either he goes to the primary process effectively unchallenged, are your for now he collects the delegates, his health will not be good. he can use that as a reason to step out, and basically tell his delegates to go for somebody else and kind of be the king maker. it wouldn't be unheard of for the democrats to try to do that. the opportunity when someone comes this fall. i think of the deponent were to challenge him this fall, it would probably be somebody with a little bit of name i.d. nationally, maybe somebody who is not a politician. i don't think democratic governors will do it this fall. probably looking to be coordinated by jill and joe biden next summer. i am predicting probably at least one if not two people still in this fall challenge. making a run at it. i am meeting everybody. they have all come knocking. republicans and democrats all want to know how to win. obviously not just on policy, a fiscally conservative free-market guy. on the democratic side, they want to engage voters. i think it's very interesting. i'm a big believer that new hampshire is a great first filter for the rest of the country. we are meeting everybody. we will see who has the courage to step in the ring. >> i like that, fiscally conservative free-market guys. who would be the most business friendly candidate that you could think of? let's start on the democratic side. >> on the democratic side? we will be here a long time if we are trying to find a fiscally conservative democrat in this country. republicans -- we have a lot of options, no doubt about it. you have the former governor chris christie, you have the current governor, you have a lot of folks that understand the pillars of limited government, local control, fiscally responsible. things we told him we would get in 2016, did not quite pan out. wants to create a government, when they say they will drain the swamp, maybe someone who actually does at this time. my going to add 6 trillion onto my kids debt burden, your kids debt burden. folks to understand what being a republican is about, a great opportunity. the next six months is going to bury it out. >> sandra: your point is well taken. 2024 hopefuls have been hitting the trail today. carried a lot of those moments during our program earlier. you've got chris christie, nikki haley, donald trump on the ground. who do you think is going to resonate with voters in that state? >> whoever works the hardest. it's wide open. folks in new hampshire it will not -- who they are voting for until around christmas or just after christmas. kind of letting it all play out as deep as it can go. symbol fall apart. my sense is you will be down to 4-6 candidates by iowa, 4- five by new hampshire. when it becomes a one on 1 race, it's not the policy has comments the ones he does not have. for an incumbent republican presidents only be getting low 40 or high 30% in places like new hampshire, 60% of the people don't want them. even of his own supporters, recent polls said 50% would go to sunday also have given a good option. he is in trouble when you narrow down periods be when you say you are advising a lot of these folks who are knocking on your door. aside from how they should win, who do you want to win? who do you want the nominee to be? >> they have to earn my vote as well as anybody else. events for nikki haley. helping them all. going to do a bunch of events with will hurd, who you just heard from. helping them be the best they can be to see who rises to the top. >> thank you for your time. thanks for joining us. busy day new hampshire. obama appointed judge in the january 6th case, former president donald trump, can he get a fair trial in washington customer case is no. we will see what andy mccarthy and tom depree say next. president joe biden is pushed to go green, taking a hit as a battery maker he touted is now deep in the red. let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. ♪ the thought of getting screened ♪ ♪ for colon cancer made me queasy. ♪ ♪ but now i've found a way that's right for me. ♪ ♪ feels more easy. ♪ ♪ my doc and i agreed. ♪ ♪ i pick the time. ♪ ♪ today's a good day. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ i did it my way! ♪ i was born on the south side of chicago. it has been a long road, but now i'm working for schwab. i love to help people understand the world through their lens and invest accordingly. you can call us christmas eve at four o'clock in the morning. we're gonna always make sure that you have all of the financial tools and support to secure your financial future. that means a lot for my community and for every community. ♪ my most important kitchen tool? 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>> reporter: the court filings keep coming in multiple cases involving the former president. last night, a judge told both the trump team and the government to hash out their differences over a protective order. donald trump's team says they could meet next week to discuss it. did governments as they could meet this week. we are waiting to see with the judge decides. the order originally proposed by the governor would limit with the former president could say or type out on social media, or in person regarding the case. it began with a social post over the weekend where he rode "if you go after me, i'm coming after you." special counsel jack smith's team took out as a threat potentially to future witnesses in the case, even people in the special counsel's office. trance attorneys say that its political speech, and he was talking about rivals on the campaign trail. what the judge says. trump's team also wants to move the trial out of d.c., where you can expect a special counsel department justice to bite. trans attorneys are expected to file a motion to move the trial, but it's not up to them and not up to the special counsel. >> it's up to the judge. i think west virginia would be excellent to try this case. >> in a rare moment of agreement, congressman adam schiff from california and the former president donald trump, who are political enemies, they bolt dominic both want the trial televised. they have different motives for why, but they believe the american people should see what happens inside the courtroom. it's up to the judicial conference of judges, federal judges, who would give some input in that decision. she is presiding over this case. cameras are not allowed a federal court. it's unlikely that she would allow this to happen, but it's always possible. televising something like this is historic on many levels, but legal experts say it's unlikely this would be televised, given it's a federal case. of course, stranger things have happened and we are in uncharted territory as you know. >> sandra: we have learned to never rule anything out. >> reporter: never. >> sandra: thank you. is the former president out of luck if he can't get this trial out of d.c.? let's get the read from our legal eagles today, tom giuffre and andy mccarthy. tom, do you think this could happen? could he out of the washington, d.c., area? >> i'd say the odds of that are slim to none. i think it makes all the sense in the world for the former president trump to make the effort. it's not a favorable journey. i think you are likelier to find -- they are a trump voter. the odds are that bad. that said, the standard for transferring the case is very high. the constitution generally says you try more cases in the jurisdiction where the events occurred. i think he will face an uphill battle. i don't think there's much help -- but the judges will grant that motion. i think the trauma team's strategy here needs to be to question potential jurors aggressively, carefully and thoroughly, as is the right, to say even if you want to trump voter, can you still approach this case neutrally. >> andy, what say you? the former president says there's no way he could get a fair trial with the judge assigned to the ridiculous freedom of speech fair elections case. everybody knows this, so does she. he says he can't get a fair trial in d.c. does he have a point? >> i generally agree with tom, and i would just add that from personal experience, long ago and far away, it was the 19 1990s. terrace tried to to bomb the world trade center. in the shadow of the courthouse will dominic where we held a trial, across the screen from the fbi -- go across the street from the fbi headquarters, and the howard tunnel, that they also wanted to blow up. the fact that the case is approximate in terms of where it's going to be tried, to the scenes of real carnage and would be carnage that they will carry out, he's not the ticket to get out of the jurisdiction. one argument i think he can make, i don't know what traction, but i feel like smith has gratuitously thrown the capitol riot into the trial. trump is not charged in the indictment with any offense arising out of the capitol riot, and yet, after he filed the indictment, smith spoke for about two dominic 3 minutes, 2.e capitol riot's. i he's trying to throw that, like waving the bloodied shirt, into the case. if i were trump, i would harp on that, that i would not hold my breath waiting for them to -- >> do you agree? >> i think andy makes a lot of good sense. i agree with his comments on jack smith. i was surprised that he made the comments he did from the podium. especially an odd note for him to strike when he's accusing former president trump of wanting to try this case in the media, than making redo his comments, going beyond the bounds of what he can permissibly say. the special counsel to then make statements and arguments and rhetoric from the podium on allegations that is and he correctly are not really an issue with what he filed. it's not something you normally see out of the department of justice. >> sandra: it's part of the televised nature of this case, any part of you predict that could happen? >> i don't think so. i see this as someone who thinks it's a good thing that federal trials are not televised. don't throw anything at me, please. [laughter] i think they can make for bad trials. the important thing is the issue actually transcends this case, as important as this case is. it's not going to be -- as david said before. it is not the judge who will make this decision. it's the judicial conference. i think they would look at it in terms of would be a good thing in general to televise a federal trial? no doubt. >> sandra: very interesting. the revelations of the devon archer letter. does that underscore his closeness to hunter biden's business activities? how does that change things? >> i think it does change things. the whole devon archer situation has just been a constant flow, every single day it seems we are learning something with a constant narrative. president biden, no involvement in his son's business dealings, now learning he was on speakerphone, writing all sorts of things, and the white house's story has been evolving. they've been having to change their official line to account for this evidence congress has been doing a fantastic job in uncovering and bringing to the attention of the american people. >> something he had never spoken with his son about his business dealings to he has never done business. thanks to both of you. appreciate the conversation. the debate stage is growing. mike pence says he has met the donor threshold to join the first g.o.p. debate. and without any gimmicks to get him there. 2024 -- francis suarez says the so-called humans are paying off. he is next. what do we always sa? 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>> well, we are going to obviously spend money over the next couple weeks to get it there. for me, this is very different than for other candidates. a lot of them are well established national figures. for me, this is an incremental process. getting on the debate stage, introducing myself. having people get to know who i am. the impact on my fact that my parents were exiled from the country of birth, communist cuba, came here seeking freedom and have experienced the american dream, something that defines who i am as a person and it defines a city that i run. that's a compelling story. i know that i've dominic if i'm on a stage and have an opportunity to interest was myself to the country -- go opportunity to introduce myself to the country, then we will have growth. >> sandra: i mention the tactics because you were giving a dollar to enter for a chance -- senior in college they work for you, because you meant that threshold. who are you ready to support if you don't make it? >> look, i'm focused on making it over the next 12 days. i am excited about the possibility of telling that story of the national level. i am appreciate of of opportunities like this to be on your show to talk about our success. that will give us the volume to get to that percent threshold. then we will take it from there. >> thank you so much for joining us. we will watch to see how that turns out. it's forming dominic coming up fast three weeks from now. americans are racking up credit card debt at a record pace. is it a sign that inflation is not going fast enough? 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's the one this is deja vu all over again. the biden administration learned none of the lessons from the obama administration. that was supposed to be the solar energy company of the future. it went bankrupt as did dozens of other energy firms. we have spent as a nation well over $500 billion over the last 40 years subsidizing wind and solar industry. it only counts for a 6%. it is the worst investment the federal government has ever made. >> i am reminded up in michigan we are one of the largest school districts there. they were given all this money to buy electric buses and then they complained that they were breaking. they weren't working. we are getting pushed into this ev world while many can't even afford it. at the same time, anybody was tying to still drive their gas car, gas prices are going up substantially in the past month. $3.82 is the national average. what exactly is going on here? this ev push premature. >> we've got to start somewhere. the ev buses have improved since the last reporting period you have to look at the big picture. there's no reason to panic at this particular disco. president biden has initiated the investment act. that is led to $270 billion in private investments. a lot of that investment, sandra, your viewers should know is going to red states. 80% of the projects in green clean energy are going into republican held districts. we also see that 60% of the manufacturing, more than 7,000 jobs were getting solar factories in georgia. getting wind power factories in alabama. this is something that is incredibly good for the economy. it gives us independence from china. >> overall, it is -- landmark investment in green energy and a true success story for americans in both red and blue states. >> let steve respond. we are cutting our supply of oil here at home. we are growing more and more dependent on foreign nations when we are still in need of fossil fuels. that needs to be pointed out. while she's talking about limiting dependency on other countries and manufacturing here at home, we are having to turn to foreign nations for our gas now. >> we are losing $170 million a day. if we just kept up the pace of oil production we had under trauma. there is a company solar reported in "the wall street journal" last week. this company is going to get -- are you ready for this? 10 billion. not 10 million, $10 billion of taxpayer subsidies. my goodness, this is corporate welfare of the worst kind. what kind of investment of this? if these companies are so great, why do they need so much taxpayer money? go ahead. >> you name checked me. i will go and tell you this. i'm wondering why you're not talking about the subsidies to oil companies. we subsidize oil companies to the tune of billions of dollars. so did the green energy companies. you got to be fair and balanced when it comes to urinalysis. >> i know the statistics, sandra threw the wind and solar industry get 20 times more subsidies as a unit of electric power. the one we are identifying some of the perils of the government getting involved in picking winners and losers. we have seen it before. thank you for the debate. appreciate the discussion. thanks so much for joining us today. thank you to all of you at home for joining us. i appreciate that. i will see you back tomorrow. you can catch me every weekday at will 1:00 p.m. thank you for joining us. keep it right here because it is time for "the five." >> hello, everybody. on jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." joe biden getting blasted for refusing to stand up to the left's woke nonsense. elmar thinks it's time for the president to grow a spine. >> one of the things i hate the most about biden's he never stands up to woke nonsense and his party. he doesn't wan

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