is still under federal investigation. this comes after the two irs whistleblowers testify politics influence the doj decision throughout the biden investigation. the trouble does not stop there for hunter. his former associate devin archer is expected to sit for closed door testimony with the house oversight committee committee tomorrow. former national intelligence joins me now, john ratcliffe, acting attorney from the great state. welcomes john ratcliffe. it was a big week, something unusual in the words of the federal judge take place, the plea deal fell apart and we're in a position where it looks like the department of justice colluded with hunter biden attorneys to get him this deal and the judge simply read through it and found things she thought were unconstitutional or hidden in the wrong places. why is that? >> john: a lot of us thought the judge would reject the plea, the judges look at conduct, this was unprecedented. at the hearing, we learned the biggest takeaway, joe biden's doj lawyers were hunter biden's defense team. in a proceeding supposed to be adversaryial, all lawyers on one side and all the lawyers worked to hide from the judge an immunity agreement within the pre-trial diversion agreement and the judge caught them and that really is what -- where this thing fell apart pretty quickly. >> in terms of hunter biden now, the justice department hid immunity, trying to make it so he couldn't be prosecute said in the future and they panicked and said he was under investigation for fara, foreign registration act. do you believe the justice department, given they were on the same team to get hunter biden the deal are actually investigating him for that? >> john: i think we should all be skeptical of that. this is probably the most politically corrupt case i've ever seen. the department of justice and fbi investigators in the matter were cutting off lines of inquiry into witnesses or tipping off witnesses and are wells about subpoenas and offering unicorn type pre-trial diversion no one had heard of and the judge called them out on that. so this for attorney general merrick garland, for christopher wray, for u.s. attorney weiss, they ought to be ashamed, another huge black eye for the doj. hunter biden's legal issues and where this goes, i think the more significant issue is political ramifications of this deal falling apart. biden justice department and biden white house expected everyone to be in a position, justice was served, republicans, it was time to move on and now as you talked about, we have witnesses like devin archer and if reports are accurate, if he gives a first-hand account under oath and says i was there and joe biden was on the phone with hunter biden and hunter said the big wigs at burisma need our support and joe biden delivered the support weeks later by using billion dollar leverage to fire the prosecutors, we'll be in impeachment inquiry faster than joe biden can get up the steps of air force one. >> katie: we know hunter biden has been lieing and information coming from different places that are adding up with no connection to them beforehand. this transcript with the judge is quite telling and joe biden will be in a lot of trouble if things corroborated by devin archer, who is close to the bye family and has photos with joe biden, hard to say you didn't know the guy or never met him. there are admissions by hunter biden in court, saying not only did he get money from chinese entities, he founded a company who had a chinese business c conglomerate. this brings up questions about fara. questions on technicality of the plea deal. hunter biden accepted this plea deal and was going to put in a guilty plea for the charges and now he's put in a not guilty plea. is it standard procedure for a defendant to say they will plead guilty and reject the plea and get to do it all over again when we know the lawyers are working together to get him the best deal instead of prosecuting him to the fullest extent of the law? he is in pretrial proceedings right now. >> john: everything about this is not normal and everything is abnormal. look at the statistics, biden justice department charged over 4000 controlled-user-in-possession of firearm cases not once has biden administration offered -- hunter biden is 1 in 4000 unicorn. it has been a scam from the start. the good thing here, katie, it fell apart under scrutiny of a federal judge and now all the folks that wanted this to go away, it is under a spotlight, whether they like it or not, best possible chance for fair and impartial -- intended in this case. >> katie: this has always been about joe biden and we will watch as devin archer testifies and we'll continue to watch it. john ratcliffe, thank you. on capitol hill, speaker kevin mccarthy is tip-toeing over impeachment inquiry. >> speaker mccarthy: i floated the idea of impeachment, you are wrong, i said impeachment inquiry, there is a big difference. if you are a member of congress, this is not saying impeachment, this is not saying we need to investigate. >> katie: several house committee investigations into the biden family. mccarthy says evidence uncovered may require full inquiry. senate republicans are not excited about a potential third presidential impeachment in four years. >> can't turn the impeach into vote of no confidence. >> if that is not pay to play, i don't know what is. if we impeach biden, it will rally the troops around him, may not be the best move. >> katie: there are serious lingering questions following the biden family, does it warrant impeachment? joining me is bill mcgern. great to see you, what do you think about the evidence and whether it is for impeachment? >> i think inquiry is different from impeachment. it is too early for impeachment. my understanding, when you go for inquiry, it makes it easier for congress to get documents out of the executive branch in the white house. i think that is what they are looking at. merrick garland, david weiss, whole cast have not been forthcoming to congress. i think they are still in fact-finding phase. impeachment tends to have a life of its own. the process snowballs and in add addition, it has been so debase by these hasty impeachment that i think some people want it for payback. >> katie: what about the numbers here, even if enough evidence to justify impeachment and many say there is given the fbi 1023 form, which mentions bribery, that has been corroborated by other pieces of evidence, whether from the hunter biden laptop, we'll see what devin archer has to say in his testimony temperature is a numbers game and speaker mccarthy doesn't have much margin in the house and democrats control the senate. >> right, again, i don't think impeachment will go anywhere for now. for one thing in the senate, they will not get, i think they need 17 democrats to sign on for conviction. i don't think there is a chance in hell they get that many democrats to sign on. it is valuable because we can get at the truth. what we need to know is what happened. look back at 2020 campaign. joe biden was saying all along he never discussed his business, that looks very doubtful now. he said during debate, his family didn't get a dime from china, hunter biden admitted in court they did, he got a lot of money from china and he dismissed the laptop as russian disinformation and that was untrue. biden's defense in 2020 was based on lies and i think that will come up. i'm more interested in the debates between republicans and democrats when the nominations go through and if biden is the nominee, he will have to answer for that. i don't think he can wiggle out like he did in 2020, we know too much today. >> katie: especially now this question of pardon on the table, even though the white house says he wouldn't do that. you mention some republicans wanting revenge. it is interesting to look back at impeachment of donald trump and why democrats rushed to do that. if you re-read the phone call they say was inappropriate. zelenskyy was a new president and president trump takes him up on that offer and says, why didn't you look into the corruption and why this prosecutor in ukraine was fired and connected to the bidens. here is this information that was a valid question. didn't democrats set the standard for hasty impeachment? not that republicans should follow based on their standard. but they set the rules and now they don't want to play by them. >> yes, not only in impeachment, but prosecution and rush by every prosecutor in the u.s. to go after donald trump and what the public sees is that it is one-sided. people associated with trump, for example, were prosecuted under foreign yaej registration act, they are saying hunter biden could be prosecuted, but no one talked about that yet. he took money from chinese and ukrainians. the biggest example, like politically, this week the hunter biden plea burst out in court, just fell apart under minimum of questions from the judge. they were trying to give hunter biden pass and get swept under the carpet by next week. hunter biden account be out of trouble, nothing there. that changed, then there is more indictment against donald trump. you can't blame ordinary americans for noticing, one side gets hit and other side protected. >> katie: exactly, double standard is violation of rights. thank you so much, great to see you. >> you're welcome. >> katie: up next, who is making the debate stage, politico's beavers joins me with more on the highly anticipated debate. f deception. >> i saw on the orders of joe biden kickback scheme giving money to hunter biden. >> for national who allegedly broke a drug fighting usually has audio recording. >> once and for all coming to say whether the cooking but belong to the coping checks are just about hunter, it is about joe. attention silver lovers of america! this is your opportunity to acquire a rare american heirloom struck from pure .999 silver. 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missing from the list are former vice president mike pence and hutchinson, among others. with less than a month left, it could spell doom for the campaign who don't end up in milwaukee this august. joining me is politico's olivia beavers. great to see you. first, layout the basic details how candidates are qualifying for the debate. what is the baseline? >> two qualifications, 40's,000 donors, 200 unique donors from 20 different states and meet 1% threshold and donors is where mike pence is falling short. polling 6%, but hasn't reached donors. interview on fox yesterday, he was being pressed and wouldn't say how many more he needs, he is asking for $1, ever how much someone is willing to give to help him get across the finish line. they will have until two days before the debate to cross that threshold. >> katie: they have left-minute decision to make to get to the finish line. there is controversy, what is rnc saying about who won't show up? donald trump said i'm ahead in the polls, will not plan ongoing, he can still change his mind. one point ron desantis was debating whether to go, he believed it was a race between him and donald trump at the top. now he will have to shoe show up. does the rnc have a concern about donald trump not showing up on the debate stage? >> donald trump has done well and is dominant on the stage and bras knuckle throwing punches and he is touted, i think he likes to flirt with the idea, kellyanne conway suggested he might show up and there was sort of inkonconsistency you touched between ron desantis and his super mack saying if donald trump doesn't show up ron desantis won't, but he said he will. for him being number two, that is a huge ground to make up. and this might be a chance for him, even without donald trump to show the american people what he can do. >> katie: one wild card who made the debate stage is north carolina governor doug burgum, didn't she have unconventional way of getting to the voter threshold, he is a shiny new thing people have not seen in this race. he had a gimmick others copied similar approaches, if you give me a $1, i will give you $20 gift card, that is $19 profit. he crossed the donor threshold, he is pretty well off. a north dakota congressman, i was asking about doug burgum running, he said, do not underestimate him, he does better than people expect. this gimmick got him across the finish line. mike pence hasn't weighed into that, francis suarez tried to do something similar, but it hasn't worked for him. >> katie: politics of this, there is reason the rnc is hosting this debate in milwaukee, ronna mcdaniel is from wisconsin inform terms of the electoral map, wisconsin is crucial place republicans have to win they did not win last time around for the general election. so can you give us more information about the choice of that and how that will play out in either republican favor or not? : well first of all a lot of business by hosting this debate and you getting the republican 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turn in their favor but for the democrats, does not better the regular everyday americans see past this to read into that income about left-wing support to sleep plant claims about ethical breaches by conservative justices like simile go, clarence thomas and a compliant liberal media has provided a forum for the solution stories and even when closer examination pays a picture political desperation and hypocrisy. is the case conservatively vote back to eckersley in the low rocking the iraq many talk to him about his from his record for voting conservative justices to the bench and because of the six success his role in organizing into thousand eight, the fishing for, justice alito, has invited democrat inspecti inspections. leo's attorney have pushback in arguing selective retaliation and questioning whether democrat justices like sonja - have seemingly invaded the same scrutiny pretty the attorney for leonard lyons david repented joining me now and it is so great to see you and julio, has been a force in getting conservative judges and justices, on the federal bench and now with the so-called, ethics reform push by democrats in the senate specifically in the senate judiciary committee, they are now targeting him and demanding that he turn over private information about his friendship longtime relationship with justice still either, and is are having none of it. >> no enemy just say this, i think americans owe a debt of gratitude to him much as a question of judicial selection, the question of venerating the constitution pulling the constitutional principles and obviously, the senate the white house is been driving this effort, as degrees with his view of point of the constitution and have a debate, and recently you want but using the allegedly investigated power or retaliatory purposes to intimidate not just mr. leo about conservative justices as well and undermine the criticism and reputation of the supreme court and remember all those statements about how conservatives supposedly are promoting this respect prince additions to be more disrespect will be false claims about spring court ethics pretty i can tell you but the history of the supreme court, not a single justice has been not only is not engaged in any unethical or correct activities. use about this only when justice, is a - liberal justice by the way, who did accept improper payments when he was in the court, but nobody suggested that he had anyway change his opinions about it sweetie well essentially come the present been arguing try to get this poison pill in the minds of americans that only conservative supreme court justices are somehow corrupt and i think you take bribes and they cannot trust the institution therefore they can affect the court and shape it in a vision which is not in the vision of the constitution. but you responded to a letter from senators white house and from senator durbin, who was the chairman of the senate judiciary committee and said that they are violating the constitution by issuing this inquiry against leonard lyons and use either the first amendment and over the asking for constitutional violations of bill of rights violations have been admitted. >> was soon if you have mentioned, the sp production is related to 15 -year-old fishing trip. and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this fishing trip which by the way, the way it was handled disclosure arises fully consistent two, as a justice points out, and his op-ed in the most wall street journal consistent with the rules that existed also violates legal protection of any process because of the fifth amendment also correctly argued that use of investigator a power cannot be any greater than these the legislative authority and there's no supported her because congress really cannot regulate the supreme court, that's especially mentioned in the constitution and is a coordinate branch of government deeply is a verse upon the judging sweetie well it sounds like an intimidation campaign to me and a lot of americans they got after conservatives supreme court justices and sent protesters and also the going after private citizens because of political disagreements is pretty you know anti-american in a lot of ways that they are doing that if i don't work real quick. >> and they are trying to destroy the court which is again tremendously tremendously reprehensible pretty. katie: indeed, david thank you so much for coming out tonight's event is so good to be with you. katie: and coming up, solar panels were the key to democrats green new deal for new research shows limit not be as environmentally friendly as we been told fox business correspondent kelly ready expense are something that in america. my name is john david carpten dr. kimberly stegmaier dr. edith perez i'm a medical oncologist and i focus on cancer prevention. people are always asking me two words come to mind for me. one is responsibility, the other is purpose. there was a child that you know i took 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to look at this new information i've been screaming about this for years doing everything we need does not just apply to so battles with other figures windows and the fact that china's largest producer of solar panels, in the world, and that is not included here, makes the same likes the data is inaccurate and being used it in for fashion when it comes to sunning other things like the paris climate accord for example depending an entire economy. >> what is free to be with you getting away and you know you are absolutely right 11 california, where the device to go green have been so dramatic that solar has been such a push for us here this data does not include emissions when you're actually manufacturing these panels because 80 percent, that happens in china in a single tony just unsubscribe the same pollution in the same emission standards as the united states so now if you are assessing that carbon intensity of solar panel use from start to finish, is much higher by the way, do we really want to be relying more and more on china make the screen push me this seems very dangerous from a security perspective just seems like a very dishonest argument in living the data is clearly not accurate and yet is still being used on a global level to push economies that are up-and-coming and fun places like africa for example and of course more modern economies like the united states to amend their entire system based on data, the me show that it's all were included, that this actually is not suffering after all. >> when you know whom i thank you so a good point to nothing it makes me feel like this is just virtue signaling from a climate perspective rather than data driven decision-making which somebody came from a data role, this very frustrating i mean if you look the arthritis global resource and so we have manufacturing solar panels, and a place that does not have the same standards, including the data and still hurting the climate right and even if the headline number in the these other places but we have lessened our emissions are sweetie will using emissions as the center for everything anything do not actually put all the data on emissions so guessing to be a problem and when ago you mentioned data president joe biden has been trying to talk about some data speaking of cooking for folks on some of these things, take a listen. biden: inflation is not the most point and is been a number two years and in fact, we lost rated of inflation among the roles major economies and wagers are growing faster inflation that means an awful lot to the working people where i come from. to have more money in the pockets they did before. katie: there more money in the pockets, than they did before. i'm not sure if that's the biggest - one about saying the wages are keeping up with inflation. >> that is right, let's to the data katie, right, and if you look at the wages the average hourly wages, versus february 2021, when president biden's office from there actually down 3 percent and so saying that to the consumers is just example running the pocket that is false because you have inflation which has got up and okay sure is not as bad as it was which abilities really went biden economics is not as bad as it could benefit the purchasing power has gone down in his talk about inflation, has coming down and not exactly what we wanted to be, it is not mean that your cup of coffee is ever going to cost less the digit of the pandemic and that would meet deflation. katie: : also, nobody's talking about the cost of getting to the quote lower inflation wishes and hiking interest rates which makes is impossible for americans to get loans and to get money and it is way more expensive now to borrow the money is of the cost of bringing that inflation number down as you mentioned is not actually change the price to go down and it will be there forever. nobody's talking about the biden administration which is also publicly great to see you. i've next, tree grows 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each of your experiences and observations some of you believe your piece pose a potential threat to our national security. >> yes to you look about the 79th in former military intelligence officer for 14 years, as well as to former fighter pilots appeared before congress this week to blow the whistle on ufos. the testified of their personal experiences is that the congress heavy kept in the dark for years company got programs including multi- decade you have eight press retrieval and reverse engineering program. let's just claim them anymore people in the military have seen ufos they are hoping end the stigma and having more channels of communication surrounding the topic you now to discuss is the one the minute testified at the hearing as was congressman calling for speaker getting select committee in your piece tonight ryan graves and congressman tim burchett thank you both for being here tonight and so, mr. graves, start with you there been dozens of movies countless movies be made about your post people laugh it off, and is clear after this hearing that there is a serious issue here and if you are indigenous to help the stigma around what is happening in the military when people see this, do you think that you furthered it under those goals with the testimony this week sue and i think it for the fiscal this weekend a big white, and congresses talking about this in a way that they have not before i think even some of the members that didn't that hearing themselves start your was said sweetie as a congressman, but that is, and italic washington dc, work nobody agrees on anything except specialists public is present was pleasantly bipartisan when it came to a lot of the questions that were asked about these programs and this topic, do you think that is the case. ryan: yes and that was my intention all along and we had jerry and garrett moscowitz is a dear friend of mine, probably do not agree on anything. other than that we are friends. and i ask for just about i asked her to attend be part of it some guests do not have anything to do this and you have patriots with more gusts letting anybody in that entire town. they blew the lid off of something that is been covered up. and this gentleman has moment to the attention that these near misses that we have had the and reported testimony with 50 million-dollar aircraft up there fighting many women in american men and women risking their lives. daily in the know you have this new pentagon that is in denial and is just me, beyond belief. katie: so mr. breaks for the americans who could not sift through hours and hours of congressional testimony, will be the main message that you want to send to them on this issue. tim: why would you send to them, this is something that a pilot and it is very pragmatic for us and is a matter of her safety as we operate everyday on the eastern seaboard and off the pacific coast but even more importantly for all the commercial aviators that are flying around, right now the statement of this topic is so bad, commercial aviators to not feel comfortable reporting this is a safety issue and compounded with that with the fact that the department of defense is not releasing information about this is really the way they can create new procedures on reporting with updated information jerry sereno there's a lot of so information is cyclical event for conversation to your earlier question i think that this first up with congress, represented versus the to do printed master hundred for reducing stigma and allow people to talk about this openly. katie: guessable the white house wanted nothing to do with it the national security spokesperson john for me just said that while i don't have anything to say about that congressman, why is that the pentagon would hope this information so close to the basket it is national security issue and for congress to issue but have also if it is a public safety issue for the americans military members also people who are flying planes. >> will that's also transparency issue and you know these knuckleheads will even release the kennedy files and president kennedy killed over 60 years ago the please even doesn't even know know why this homage and yet they still will not release it and i had an amendment to put of the faa reauthorization that you said, that if a commercial pilot were to start an anomalous object a ufo if you will whatever in the year that report that is weighted to the faa, that would be made available to congress will guess what, that amendment only was not hurt, i was told that the intelligence community nothing intelligence committee, but the intelligence community had a problem with it and you have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats the basically budget more pimps pointed us never wore in the world. yet they want to grow something that's happened to her 40 minute woman right for post this thing is bigger than this and we better keep digging and i hope the congress have the speaker agrees with us and appoints the special committee. katie: mr. graves at the beginning of the many hearing, said that here is not something that was try to be driven here they wanted to have a call conversation about this. but when you hear this is an american about biologics the retaking out of ufo, then you cannot talk about it because it's classified month dry salute if you're up so americans be worried about the situation or is this something the government can handle and be more transparent about. tim: i think to the congressman's point earlier, this is pretty probably bipartisan moment in our government right now and so the question is do i think were of 2000 having this be something earnestly and i think we are. katie: all right, that's a consoling that is good and i think you both for being here and i'm going to learn more about this as i am sure many of americans will continue to watch over thank you both for being here. >> thank you. katie: and think you for spending part of your sunday with us if you have a great week ahead, good night from washington.