operational control the borders? >> we will ask secretary alejandro mayorkas about his atlanta delta crisis. >> plus i am not concerned about a recession for. >> the president struggling to cells economic message as the economy shrinks prices remain high and pressure mounts on the left to bail out college students. the white house brushing off concerns it could make inflation worse. >> we are talking about how to provide people with relief. bret: in congress for many about ukraine as russia ratchets up the rhetoric. >> nobody should be making idle comments about the use of nuclear weapons free. >> will discuss with the chairman of foreign relations committee, senator bob menendez. then, we are in ohio with a crucial primary election on the road to the midterms. we will ask our sunday panel about one of the most watched senate races in the country. all write now on fox news sunday. and hello again from fox news in washington. it is a week of contrasting images. the stars joined washington's elite at a high profile that are to honor the beltway press corps across the u.s. prices and concerns about the u.s. economy dominated dinnertable discussions. in ukraine there are new signs that russia is in for the long haul. at the southern border a growing crisis has growing official strange and members of congress and upper part in a moment we'll talk to the secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas. we'll begin with fox coverage first to alex hoff here. >> , still a direct concern in the west ring on friday communications director kate said she tested positive. she was in a meeting with the president earlier in the week. prior to that the vice president revealed she was also positive and remain in quarantine. [applause] works the white house correspondents dinner return for the first time in three years with the same style and satire. >> why in the hell are we still doing this? it's a dr. fauci dropped out. that should've been a pretty big sign for. >> plus up requirement every single gossipy vaccine tested negative progress we are here to show the country we are getting through this pandemic broke. >> present biden skipped the middle portion out of concern. topped off a week or cabinet members play defense on the hill. attorney general merrick garland was pressed about crime rate and energy secretary granholm pressed about rising gas prices. >> is a huge, huge bird in the presence obsessed with this as well be. >> things got heated homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas was asked about the administration's plan to lift the pandemic era policy title 42 at the border this is a federal judge temporarily blocked the administration from taking steps to wind it down. >> look, i get you incompetent it perform a big amnesty then print really unlikely that's going to have lift operator the laws that exist now for. >> the white house also on defense of oppressive price decline or first quarter gdp. >> some are predicting there may be a recession in 2023. i am concerned about it for. >> the white house had recent reports don't paint the full picture. and job creation and low unemployment rates. the passively's the present has signaled he may be getting closer to forgiving at least some student debt loan payments have already been pause through august 31. according to the white house executive action is on the table to extend that pause even further. bret: alex reporting from here in washington it now let's turn to brian near the southern border along the rio grande. >> brett, both sides of the border are preparing for an unprecedented summer surge of migrants crossing illegally into the u.s. the national guard wire is mexican state security up that migrants cross illegally in record breaking numbers read the border encountered more than 221 migrants in march the highest monthly total in two decades. since 2,021,689,000 migrants have abated capture and are now illegally in the u.s. officials in mexico tell us they do not have the resources to handle the surge. 50 yards across the rio grande river, officials in eagle pass in texas say they too are strained. >> a congressman up there, people there in washington are the ones that need to do this they need to help us. we need help. >> won a border patrol source says things are eerily calm right now calling it the calm before the storm. brett. bret: bryan llenas reporting from the southern border, brian thank you. joining us here in washington homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. mr. secretary welcome back to fox news sunday for. >> agreed to beyond, brett, thanks so much. >> are hearings on the hill last week you justified the administration has a quote effectively and manage the situation at the border. but in private with border patrol agents a few months ago, you said this. [inaudible] we can't continue like this, our people. [inaudible] bret: can you ask when the difference between your public marks in your private remarks? is there a suite of effectively managing unsustainable, which is the border? >> they are not in conflict with with one another at all. we've got 19000 extraordinarily talented and dedicated border patrol agents, securing our border. and more are coming. and in fact not only are more coming now, but we have requested that more come in the future. the first time since 2011 that an administration has asked for more border patrol agents. these individuals hours securing the border. we have technology as the force multipliers. this is what we do each and every day. it is very important as i have set forth in the plan, that we have been executing since september of 2021 to prepare for the eventual end of title 42 of the public health authority, one of the pillars of that plan, or the border security pillars is to work with our partners to the south. and really ensure they manage their respective borders. because the challenge of migration is nonexclusive to the united states. bret: in your talk about effectively managing last month almost in quarters encounters and dhs are for all of last fiscal year 1.7 million encounters. already there have been almost 1.1 million it's not even may. do you have a different definition of effectively managed? >> thought albrecht and what happens to these individuals? they are either expelled under the title 42 of the cdc or they are placed into immigration enforcement proceedings. they make their claims under the law, if those claims do not prevail, they are promptly removed from the united states. bret: isn't the injective of the biden ministration to sharply reduce the total number of immigrants coming across the southern borders that the objective? >> it is the objective of the biden administration to make sure we have a safe, legal and orderly pathways for individuals to be able to access our legal system. we are against irregular migration against individuals taking a perilous journey, putting their lives in the hands of smugglers and trying to enter the united states in between the ports of entry. that is why we call for legislation to fix, bret, what everybody agrees is a broken immigration system and why we are rebuilding an immigration system that has been dismantled. bret: you call for immigration reform legislatively a lot. can you name one thing that would help you deport more illegal immigrants that congress could do? >> that we are talking about, we'll talk about legislation is building the orderly, legal pathways for people to obtain relief under our laws. bret: but you want people out if they're not supposed to be her, correct? exactly that's the lawbreaker student how many illegal aliens they have released from the southwest border into the night since it's a president took office? >> you know what release means bret? the release does not mean just let go into the united states. it means if we do not detain individuals they are placed on alternatives to detention and they are immigration enforcement proceedings. and if they do not appear further immigration enforcement proceedings, they are a priority for enforcement action. >> what percentage of migrants released who actually show? >> just over 86%. bret: the numbers are going to the s district court which you submitted the dhs directly released at least 836,000 aliens into the united states since generate 21st. then you add the 2,207,000 unaccompanied alien children and then you're border patrol estimates some are from 200 -- 400,000 god always. in other words encounters that are not -- my conveyed apprehension. >> the getaways have been a challenge from the beginning. bret: that matches your numbers roughly? >> i believe so precooked that's all without title 42 in place. i meet with title 42 in place. when it is removed you are going to see more numbers, right? >> we very well could we estimate that we will which is why precisely why, bret we have been planning since september of 2021 for the eventual end of title 42. an authority that the cdc exclusively controls. speaks do you think it is good or bad for americans to add illegal immigrants, illegal aliens, whatever you want to call them into the u.s. in the population? >> bret, individuals who are encountered at the border often make claims for relief under our laws. if they do not make a claim, they are apprehended and if they do not make a claim they are promptly removed. if they make a claim than they have a right, under our law to seek to advance that claim before an immigration judge. if the judge denies their claim they are removed. we do not believe that individuals who do not have a right under the law to be in the united states. we do not believe they should stay in the united states. >> admitted its overwhelmed big deer hunting of judges you don't have the ability to handle the influx of people. >> there is unanimity about the fact the system is broken which is why i come and the administration, and so many others continuously call for legislative reform. it is precisely why president biden, on day one of his administration submitted a bill to congress. bret: can you name one thing you're calling for that help ice and border patrol deport immigrants questioned. >> that fiscal year 2023 budget that we just submitted, we asked for more resources, more personnel, more technology. bret: one number he didn't have at the hearing last week till the status of 42 people on the terrorist watch list. those apprehended at the border, take a listen. >> the secretary of homeland security does not know the answer to the status of a 42 individuals who came to our southern border illegally on the no-fly list and the terrorist watch list. you do not know whether they have been released or not into the country that is your testimony? >> ranking member jordan as i've said before i will provide you the data. exit is been a few days do you have that data now? >> yes. i did it not want to misspeak and response to it ranking member jordan's question because we know where this 42 individuals are on the ts to be the terrorist screening database. let me share with you what happens. they can be removed, they can be placed into custody for criminal prosecution. they could be cooperating in a law enforcement investigation. and i do not intend to provide that data publicly if it is a law enforcement sensitive. but we know where those 42 are. i did not want to speak with respect to the disposition of each and every one of them. but we know where they are and we have got our hands on it. when i say we. bret: really since the united states? >> no not necessarily. >> i heard the three things but i guess are they worried about the 42? >> they should not be worried about the 42. we have got a handle on it. and when i say we, bret's top apartment upon security alone. it is the federal bureau of investigation, it is our entire enforcement and intelligence enterprise. bret: you think releasing, the definition of releasing i understand what you are saying but. >> for not letting people loose and just letting them come at access. bret: apple process eventually summon settles on whatever city they are looking to get to is a magnet for more illegal immigration or not? the people who come in and they get to whatever city they want too. >> i will share with you what is a magnet. what is a magnet is the misinformation that the cartel spread to individuals in different countries about what our laws are and what our policies are. that is a magnet and that is why we counter that. quick speaking of misinformation this week will dhs disinformation governance board was coming out and we saw immediate concerns about free speech. do you understand some of us push back? >> there is no question we could have done a better job in communicating what it does. let me share with you with this department of homeland security does. and has been doing for years. throughout the past administration included. we addressed disinformation that presents a security threat to the homeland. disinformation from russia, from china, from iran, from the cartels. i will give you a real-life example. the cartels spread disinformation that title 42 does not apply to the haitians. and that prompts a potentially haitians to try to come to the united states. and what do we do? u.s. customs and border protection, phenomenal enforcement agency, goes on creole language stations and communicates that title 42 does apply to asians. bret: a little bit like the global engagement center of the state department little dip redundant. >> i really need to clarify this as a working group that takes the best practices to make sure that in addressing disinformation that that presents a threat to the homeland, does not infringe on a free speech, it does not infringe on civil rights, civil liberties. it is not about speech. it is about the connectivity to violence. that is what we need to address. you know, an individual has the free-speech right to spew anti-semitic rhetoric print what they don't have the right to do is take hostages in a synagogue. and that is where we get involved. bret: the presence of lead to this is laundrie. she's taking hits for the new stories and hundred biden laptop and others the laptop store is always a block from social media outlets because is called russian propaganda. until it wasn't. so do you really think nina jankowicz is anywhere near objective enough of this particular job? >> yes, i do. by the way, highly regarded as a subject matter expert and i don't question her objectivity. there are people in the department who have a diverse range of views and they are incredibly dedicated to mission we are not the opinion police. she has testified before congress a number of times but she is recognized as a tremendous authority and we are very fortunate to have her. bret: was a still dossier misinformation? >> is not for me too apply on that. bret: americans are generally open aware of censorship. >> that's exactly what was said of the working group to make sure our work to address a real threat to the homeland, the threat posed by russian disinformation. the threat posed by chinese disinformation. i ronnie and disinformation, the work that we do does not infringe on people's right of free speech. that is why this working group was set up. and we will do a better job of communicating about that and i am looking forward to testifying before the united states senate's on wednesday. bret: are you really? are you really? it's a rough week. we appreciate your coming and answering questions. >> of the something i would like to own the station is a champion our incredible workforce. the border patrol agents, i visited the border eight or nine times already. i am in awe of what they are willing to sacrifice day in and day out in the service of this country. bret: secretary mayorkas appreciate her taking time. >> thank you for having me. >> cap next the send a group of the fault of the border crisis of weather forgiving federal loan debt amounts to real relief or a political g xfinity mobile runs on america's most reliable 5g network, but for up to half the price of verizon so you have more money for more stuff. this phone? fewer groceries. this phone? more groceries! this phone? fewer concert tickets. this phone? more concert tickets. and not just for my shows. switch to xfinity mobile for half the price of verizon. new and existing customers get amazing value with our everyday pricing. switch today. >> when it is removed you will see more numbers, right? >> we very well could we estimate that we will which is why -- precisely why, bret, we've been planning since september of 2021 for the eventual end of title 42. >> may 23, secretary mayorkas with the plants a guilty surge of title 42 is lifted at the border time now for sunday group, from npr, former democratic congressman harold ford junior, mark served as vice president mike pence a chief of staff, what do you think of that interview and his presentation of that? >> i thought he is not defensive but he think he acknowledged there are big problems there is a surge coming. and he also did not seem to deny the take it you got from the private meaning that we cannot just control it at the border. it is a much, much bigger problem. but, what exactly they're going to do about title 42 is still unclear because so far they are being saved by a federal judge who has told them not to pull it off. bret: and mark, these numbers are really high and effective management is trying to get to the difference if the public and the private. you cannot look at those numbers and say that is a good thing. >> you are exactly right to push them on the number is 840,000 that of already been let go since they be came into this administration. that does not include unaccompanied minors essentially a million illegal aliens going to the united states there confessing the problem it's only going to get worse was so much focus on title 42 but it kind of tip of the iceberg it's a series of positions to change are made in mexico policy to tie the hands of ice at this point you're deporting a 18 of the criminals the trump administration was deporting during our four years they're not removing criminals and there confessing here on tv they have a surge that is coming and they have no policy to deter it whatsoever. i love you, democrats and republicans are trying to use all of this for the election is a very powerful and emotional. we saw that testimony in the questioning, but some of it was really aggressive. does that hurt republicans in some way? >> i think a big issue going into the election biden sums her down in the polls it's how he's handling immigration your sink moderate democrats coming forward saying if you are to revoke title for it to the needs to be a better plan in place for may 28 page memo dhs put out. democrats are saying we want a better plan in place we want specifics. it is not just republicans who are saying the border is a problem. you have democrats joining as well but they recognize that in purple states this might be a huge issue. bret: herald, there are a lot of issues for this election coming up and were going to talk about midterms and some of the specific races later. one of them in student loan debt forgiveness. president biden, a while ago the idea you go to pen and you're paying a total of 70000 bucks a year end the public should pay for that, i don't agree. now they are considering some kind of wiping out of student debt but about that issue? >> i went to pen wish somebody would have helped us with our debt and don't think you can erase it all i think he's right to an extent we have to eliminate or relieves some of this debt. i think the larger conversation i would have if i were in the white house around this is why our tuitions going up so much of these colleges and universities? why are colleges and universities able to take advantage of little clap middle-class families for the rising tuition rates are they look at how much money they will get in hedging and ensuring they get 80000 bucks at 50 or 60 of it? i am free with the center john kennedy i think you had a one-year show last week on special report i believed old-fashioned if you take out a loan should pay it back. >> people who paid back the loan get people who don't go to college of a lot of section of the voting public that could be on the backside of that issue. >> this is incredibly asinine policy the reality the reality today 56% of all that is owned by those of graduate degrees. with the biden and his ministrations going to say to the american bible for blue-collar workers across the country who never had the opportunity to go to college were going to take short taxpayer dollars and subsite lawyers, bankers and people who have degrees doctors across the country. it's a highly regressive policy there's nothing progressive about it. >> in the meantime, mara several officials tested positive for the vice president there still pressing for the federal mask mandates in court but yet we saw the big part of the white out officials at the white house correspondents dinner last night, take a listen to trevor noah the comedian. >> isn't my great honor to be speaking at the nation's most distinguished super spreader event. you guys for the last two years telling everyone the importance of wearing masks and avoiding large indoor gatherings than the second someone offers you a free dinner you all turn into joe rogan. [laughter] >> maybe the gridiron working to find out pretty soon. >> the does that hurt? let's think it does also chocolate title 42, totally confusing if covid is over which a lot of republican sadist and why should we keep title 42 on quest wreck if it's not over why are we moving forward with events like that? look at is confusing but there is no doubt that actually covid is moving from a pandemic to an end gamache this is a transition. and it looks pretty confusing. for six olivia, he wrote the suite about the infighting of the house of freedom caucus which is sometimes been the thorn in the leadership side. as the lack of unity there may be made republican leaders like kevin mccarthy a little bit safer in recent weeks? >> it's interesting watch the freedom caucus toward mccarthy think you south and your times times audio, the freedom caucus chairman perry and green, neither of them were deciding to leap on him which might have been a whole different world a couple of years ago. they were saying let's focus on unity this is also a group that knows when to strike and they decide this is not the time to start pushing for concessions. they were more powerful seats in congress. if they are having cracks at its doesn't mean mccarthy's going to be safe from some of their pushes for power when you see these dinner six hearings and evoke a center been a part of this is a sort republicans overall when a child think americans are looking for think january 6 was a tragic day it's a sad chapter i think court voters are is to say what you going to do to help me fix inflation? what are you going to do to help me fix gas prices? to be a lot of theater in washington d.c. a question how much the american people will be watching it. bret: right panel thank you coming up have a live report from ukraine we are just hours ago house speaker nancy pelosi was on the ground smith president zelenskyy. senator bob menendez of the foreign relations committee joins us to discuss the joins us to discuss the president's request for bil oh, i had never seen a picture of her until i got on ancestry. it was like touching the past. my great aunt signed up to serve in the union army as a field nurse. my great grandmother started a legacy of education in my family. didn't know she ran for state office. ended up opening her own restaurant in san francisco. paralee wharton elder, lupe gonzalez, mary sawyers, margaret ross. there's a lot of life that she lived. who are the strong women in your family? and it's easier than ever to■ get your projects done right. inside, outside, big or small, angi helps you find the right so for whatever you need done. with angi, you can connect with and see ratings and reviews. just search or scroll to see upf on hundreds of projects. and when you book and pay throug you're covered by our happiness it's easy to make your home an a check out angi.com today. angi... and done. bret: early this morning house speaker nancy pelosi a group of lawmakers mowed president zelenskyy in ukraine. the visit comes just days after russian bombs struck kyiv for the head of the united nations was on the ground. pelosi emphasized in the u.s. commitment to ukraine's fight as president biden pushes for billions more in aid. in a moment will speak with the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee senator bob menendez. but first let's turn to greg live in lviv for the latest on the ground, greg. >> alright bret. yes a surprise visit from the u.s. to kyiv in the middle of this war herein house speaker nancy pelosi meeting ukrainian president zelenskyy pray she is the highest ranking u.s. official succumbs ukraine since the war started. along the first official delegation. and a three hour meeting overnight they brought a message of support from the american people. here's a comment we got a short while ago from congressman adam schiff. >> the whole freedom. [inaudible] and assuring ukraine is victorious. next may not were watching the battered city last ditch effort to get civilians out of their said to be happening right now. the latest report 20000 civilian said to have been killed russian troops.pounding on this new phase of the war ukrainian troops are busy making some brave counterattacks. and another surprise visit this weekend here in lviv actress un special ambassador angelina jolie highlighting the plight of refugees in this region including children. remember more than 5 million people have now fled ukraine due to the fighting. by the way bret, a message from another congressman after this visit. in his words it was all about weapons, weapons, weapons as the u.s. appears to go full in with ukraine against russia. back to you. bret: reporting live from ukraine, greg thank you pray joining sally chair of the senate foreign relations committee senator bob menendez of new jersey paid senator, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> good to be with you, bret. bret: where you see the worn ukraine right now? our sanctions working against vladimir putin? >> well, economists predict the russian economy gdp will contract by 15% that wipes out 15 years of gain for russia. even russian economists say that it will have 10% of gdp loss. that is a huge blow to russia. europe's latest effort they had hopefully consolidated of having an gas embargo against russia would be a huge blow. and so was someone who has been the author of many sanctions that has a tail to it takes some time to have taken effect. but it is having an effect sprayed with having a bigger effect is the west's commitment to ukraine for this is a test for the west. whether or not we will allow a country, in this case russia led by putin to ultimately violate the international order and erase the boundaries of the country by force. >> this is the british foreign secretary a few days ago take listen if you will cracks we are doubling down will keep going further and faster to push brush out of the whole of ukraine do you agree what does winning is that pushing russia out its ukraine keeping their sovereignty if any that will make of course after the horrific acts that putin has committed one of the war crimes they have committed it's hard to understand what the ukrainians could accept. but certainly, it is at the end of the day that ukraine is a free standing sovereign country that determine its own future. what that means in the context of territory is something for ukrainians to decide for themselves. bret: how much you fear russia does use some sort of nuclear weapon tactical or otherwise? >> to one my concerns is that ironically the more success that the ukrainians have, the greater the risk that putin will do something because he is losing and has to save face at home. the chemical, biological or tactical nuclear weapon may grow as a result of that. and that is a real concern. understand that putin did this in sierra. unfortunately the world did not care about sierra. he used chemical weapons in sierra. he is indiscriminate bombing of civilian sites, hospitals, schools and more. and yet the world did not care at that moment. so he is capable of doing that. of course or chemical weapons conventions with consequences for the use of chemical weapons if he were to do that. bret: the present has asked for $33 billion in addition to what has already been funded paid when does the senate consider a ukraine bill? >> it would be my hope that it will do so soon. hopefully either this week or the next. of course if there is consensus, if there is an agreement as you know anything can go to the senate through unanimous consent try to somehow there is a desire to start picking at a partner having amendments to it could last longer. but time is of the essence for the howitzers for example we provide in ukraine is many which on the ground already, with long-range missile capacity is going to help them and what is now a new phase of the war. and so, all that we can do to help the ukrainians fight for themselves and achieve their freedom is a critical period we don't what is putin ultimately and that creates a risk for us and our nato allies very. >> to think on that bill do you think covid money will be attached that ukrainian funding or vice versa to get that all through? >> well, my view is that they are both important. covid is about preparing for any new iteration of a new wave, a new element of the virus. ukraine is about defending the international order and making sure that we can help ukraine defeat russia so it does not advance to a country for which we are committed for example under nato. that would require our sons and daughters to fight abroad. they're all distinctive but essential to the national security in terms of its health security want in terms of the security of the international order and our ability to defeat russia there so we do not descend our sons and daughters are broader questions are chairman i want to charge of the foreign hotspot is ironic and they are run negotiations for deputy secretary of state wendy sherman. last time i had her here on fox news sunday talking about that. >> you know, we are very concerned about what iran is doing. but imagine the iranians with a nuclear weapon. we need to get that off the table so we can address their malign behavior in the middle east. and we will do all of the above it. but first we've got to get this deal and it is not yet closed. >> do you agree with that premise first of all the state department claimed its patient's was not unlimited when it came to iran and these negotiations and a new agreement but that was a year ago. so is the administration somehow getting taken advantage of by ironic? >> well look, we are all in agreement that i iran cannot be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon it will change the entire nature of the region. we will have an nuclear arms race in the region and our ally, the state of israel have an existential threat. we cannot tolerate that. by the same token were told by the administration that the negotiations did not conclude by the end of february that in fact the time that would be lost in what we would gain would be a very little importance or value to us right now it is the end of april. until the end of february was not going to buy us but we need certainly the end of april is not. the returning to the agreement, especially when there's not a one-year break out but only a six month break out, does not really give us what we need. we don't vilify ron's of ballistic missiles for which our commanders says there is overmatched by ironic and its proxies in the region in terms of the number of missiles and places that can fire them. against even iron dome and other of our allies in the region. we won't be dealing with the ultimate threat. we have to stop, yes, iran from missiles we also have to stop their pathway to nuclear weapon for their three elements of that they already had the missile element, they are on the verge of having the enrichment element unfortunately president trump left the deal without a strategy than they accelerated that. the third part is to detonation which they don't have yet. these are the things we must focus on to stop iran from having a nuclear war. bret: i'm hearing from your answer, do you want the administration to pull back from this table? >> i want the administration to understand that no deal is better that a bad deal. and a deal that only gives us six months, from my perspective, without dealing with some of the other elements is 20 come at an entrance is 2022 not 2014 for some of the sunsets of the original deal for all bits and perfections as you know i did not support the original deal are closer in terms of ending a pathway where iran could ultimately achieve its goal. so, from my perspective unless there are other elements of the deal that would not be a good deal. and lifting designation as a terrorist organization, i think is also critically important not to take place me too keep the designation on at that may be in fact when the stumbling blocks of having a deal the end of the day. quick senator mendez thank you always good to talk with you. >> good to be with you. bret: coming up behind the scenes a game changing endorsement in the ohio republican senate primary. pox news sunday is on the road to the midterms, next xfinity mobile runs on america's most reliable 5g network, but for up to half the price of verizon so you have more money for more stuff. this phone? 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[cheering] >> the publican dorsum up brought former president trump to pennsylvania avenue and delaware county, ohio. >> hello ohio. thank you very much. >> is picked, j.d. vance. author, venture capitalist and former never trump her precooked i never liked timber. >> but they now does not sit well with some people at the rally. proxy is a flip-flop. we've got too much of that going on right now. >> what about trump's endorsement of him does not change her mind at all? >> know very. >> such a whiplash trump had to acknowledge a very quick he is the guy who said some bad about me. but do you know what? every one of the others did also. >> the endorsement, even vance off guard. here at a pre-rally tailgate though he is soaking in the moment. >> i was having a milkshake on my kit on good friday got a phone call from the president, who could not be surprised the president's calling you telling you he's going to endorse you. it is huge for me. he's also stuck explaining his half comment request you did call yourself a never trump her though, six years is not quite never breakouts a lot of people were very critical of trump early on. we became converted, we became converted because trump was a great president very. >> you benefited from your friendship with peter. look at the calm paint contributions a lot of it is coming from out of state. your opponents have seized on that for they said you are not a candidate for ohioans because the money is coming from elsewhere. >> we have raised a ton of money from small dollar donors across the state of ohio for the question is not where you get the money in my view, but it's to the people who find your campaign exley show your values, right? >> further highlight the role the former presidents playing in this race for. >> i am not taking were going to whimper. >> vance opponent mike gibbons set up to greet his supporters right by the entrance to the trump rally. >> would if i got inverse i can will beat if we stayed out i could win. we also knew if he endorse it j.d. vance i could win big. >> given the biggest spender at an investment banker he has thrown more than $16 million into the race. >> other candidates could make the case though since you are someone who is wealthy it gives you an unfair advantage for. >> i think it is honorable to spend money on america. i have already achieved my american dream. i am spending my own money and i don't agree at all that that is not an honorable thing to do for. >> mike givens has a courage to stand with me. >> gibbons had senator rand paul backing him. another high-profile endorsement comes from senator ted cruz rallying support for former ohio treasurer josh mandel. he is benefited from millions in spending by the conservative group club for growth. >> if you worry about burn a bridge with president trump. >> on it when this thing on may 3 at work and looking forward to work with president trump to beat tim ryan and the democrats in november. i think president trump and i will be working together for many years to come. >> i want to do next and i sit center to fight for america first. >> former jane missed out on his backing too. but she does have and are currently longtime senator whose position she hopes to fill. >> definitely gave me a bump. definitely gave a signal to voters to the senator trust should be the next of ohio. >> the only candidate who never saw to the trump endorsement state senator matt doland. but still embraces a former president very. >> a lot of my opponents are looking backwards at 2020 bitter republicans in ohio went to stop the biting crisis and look forward to 2024. >> without being able to appeal to that republican supporter base or the trump supporter base is there a viable path to winning the primary? quick to make a big assumption there as well. go back to where we started. when voters start looking at what trump did as a republican president what matt doland has done as a republican state senator for ohio, the similarities and policy are striking. >> on the issues, these candidates are similar. in many ways its abrasive personalities and that is why the trump endorsement became sell them the importance. the former president ignored the wishes of 40 ohio gop officials who signed a letter asking him to stay out of the primary. >> they were all doing well on an equal footing, competing with each other. competing on the ideas. and then when the endorsement comes in like president trump it kinda skews the data. >> it would sway his voters to his candidate. i wanted the people to be able to decide and not have somebody tells them who to vote for. >> now, the final push is on. early votes are coming in. primary day draws near the rest of the country is watching this crowded race in the buckeye state for science of how others could unfold. in ohio, grady trimble fox news. >> we are back out the panel take a look at the latest fox news pull out of this race. there has been a shift, marketed towards jd vance surging some points here. what does this say? it's one of several races about the former presidents juice on the trail. >> bret surely the president is a coveted endorsement pretty cell is a big impact upon republican primary voters but i do think you look at the races that are ahead in may and i think there is a difference between say pennsylvania and ohio were candidates think it's a beauty pageant to see him get the presidents endorsement. i think you contrast that with georgia were governor camp is running on his record of $1 billion in tax relief. a billion dollars in additional tax cuts. standing up for parents he handled covid. what he is done for alec safety. he's looking for to running on his record. even though trump is supporting purdue of the string camp with points and pulling away for this good contrast between those races you basically have a beauty pageant to sierra get the endorsement becomes a self fulfilling prophecy versus run your own campaign and say here's what i have done for my constituents. bret: vance calm pained he's already got trumps endorsement what is in it for him to do? >> i think he wants. >> abasing once he trump base. he knows, based on the interviews you just aired that everyone in the trump base likes him just because he was endorsed by trump. this whole primary, the big story is how much is a trump endorsement worth? i was a george's governors race does not look like it's worth too much in pennsylvania because god has endorsement for a jd advances in ohio so we are going to see what happens. it is mixed so far about how powerful that endorsement is. >> we did see some indication doland is moving up and this and of the poll that shows them going up further which is kind of interesting in the late momentum kind of thing in ohio per. >> absolute he's not discarding himself as a never trump orbit. but he's let's forget about the talk about the election being stolen but it will be interesting to see if he has a path forward in if that is another approach that other republican candidates can take it. as we mentioned i think at least 40 primaries are coming up were trumps endorsements was seat successful was he not. bret: obs worker to that of the primary someone who's pitching the center of the road policies and tim ryan. >> tim brian's campaign is a campaign for the future. a campaign focused on issues pretty camping moment america know our real enemy, bill jones the 21st centuries china and how do we bring vital industry back to ohio per the big deals intel and the partnership the 20 billion-dollar investment how to get more of those across pennsylvania, ohio, georgia, tennessee? i think it's good for the republican party i'm a democrat you all get a chance to see right now in real time or the party is going to go for november parade of his candidates win, trumps candace when the key will be in that unite and beat the tim ryan's that moderate dems running for senate? >> they've been reddish lately. >> i will take my bet. [laughter] >> alright thank you panel, see you next sunday for cap next a final word on the week bret: that is it for today. you can join me for a special report weekdays 6:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel parade have a great week. we'll see you next fox news sunday. . >> breaking tonight denial and dereliction of duty and disinformation from the very man in charge of the disinformation police. >> the border is not open because the borders not open. the borders not open. the border is not open. >> good evening welcome to "the next revolution". unbelievably marks from dhs secretary on the border crisis he helped create. >> we are not talking