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delaware. it was vladimir putin that wanted this call. >> it is, jackie. that call has been underway about 25 minutes according to a senior white house official. it's unclear why russian president vladimir putin wanted this call today. white house officials say this is a moment of crisis between russia and the west. tens of thousands of russian troops are massed on the border with ukraine, which is something that the u.s. tried to pull russia back from. russia han annexed part of ukraine and did the same with georgia in 2008. a call request from the kremlin likes this is a rarity. >> no, it's a good sign. president putin rarely asks for calls. i worked in the obama administration. i remember one time that he asked for a call. usually the other way around. that means there's a message that he wants to send to the president. >> the republicans have criticized the president's strategy for waving sanctions on the nord stream 2 pipeline. they said the white house should more aggressively arm ukraine. senior white house officials says the u.s. is prepared to provide more defensive weapons or more further assistance to defend its territory. but the specifics on that are unclear. the white house is also threatening unprecedented sanctions. >> we are having direct conversations with russia. we're very clear that russia should not invade the sovereignty of ukraine, that we must stand up and we are standing up for its territorial integrity. >> this is also ahead of reason and american officials meeting january 10th to discuss these issues. officials say that presidents biden and putin are not expected to be directly involved in the talks. jackie? >> jackie: thanks, rich. big question right now, can this standoff with russia be resolved diplomatically? part of with me now, christian whiten. christian, great to see you to get insight on this topic. as rich reported there, the call is underway as we speak. putin did request the call. we don't know what he wants to talk about. what do you think that message is that he wants to send the president? >> my guess is that he's trying to soften up biden a little bit, trying to lay out an agenda and make it seem reasonable. what russia wants is an agreement not to let ukraine into nato and georgia in to nato. there's talks of expanding nato closer to russia's borders. that is probably at the top of the discussion. president biden would like to see this crisis go the same way that one winterly they are year where russia increased the number of forces on ukraine's border, caused a stir and then decreased those forces as the time went by. >> jackie: talking about sanctions if putin does move forward. a couple of option there's. people are saying what he needs to do, the president, president biden is cut russia out of the international banking system. add a military presence there. also reverse the nord stream 2 pipeline. your thoughts on if he would exercise any of these options. >> he's backed himself in to so much of a corner that if but didn't did invade ukraine, which is unlikely at the end of the day, russia does not want -- the united states doesn't want a war. biden would be obliged to do something. you mentioned the financial sanctions. the idea of kicking him out of the swift. the flip side of that is if we make too many people angry, too many countries by doing that, you could have russia and china together and iran start to create something separate from the u.s. dominated international financial system. there's also the question here of whether the american people are really willing to see the united states go on to a war footing over ukraine, this is the ukraine. it's not franks or britain or holland. >> trace: understand. as kamala harris said in that interview, we are respecting ukraine's sovereignty. so i would just have to follow up and ask you, if he's not prepared to invade ukraine, why amass the troops, why create the situation that we're looking at right now? >> well, putin loves what is going on as far as having a moment in the sun, if you will. russia is a very significant old powerful country but still -- it does have the world's fourth or fifthth largest army. an economy 1/12 the size of europe. putin continues to put himself in the spotlight. he continues to put himself on an equal level of the united states and china, which are two countries with last economies and militaries. he might get what he wants here, which is to make ukraine neutral or make it just de facto a member of russia's sphere of influence of georgia, belarus and these other countries. >> jackie: some have suggested that this is a situation where he's flexing his muscles for his ego with respect to geo politics and his standing, russia's standings in the world. christian, great to see you. happy new year to you. >> thank you, jackie. >> jackie: a senior administration official saying that the white house is gravely concerned with russia's military build-up. so how should we respond if sanctions don't work? we were going to go to a retired u.s. army lieutenant colonel danny davis. he's not with us right now. so we're going to leave it there for the moment and take a break. ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. 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colonel danny davis on how to deal with this. obviously tensions are high right now. no details on what is coming out of this call. we talked about the sanctions that the president could enact. where do you think this goes? how quickly could it escalate, if it does? >> i'll be very interested to hear what the read-out or the phone call turns out to be. could be one where putin is trying to soft pedal things and have a reasonable conversation and couple to an agreement or the opposite where he's trying to play a harder hand saying i'm deadly serious about now allowing ukraine to go to the western orbit. we're not kidding with these things with the military build-up we have there. that is part of the key here. they can say whatever they want like any nation. but what you have to pay attention to is what they're doing. they have the numbers and the types, the locations where they're spread around in their country opposite the ukraine gives putin the ability to order such an attack if he wants to and he has the forces in place to do it. the question is going to be is how do we handle that. >> right. the military forces we're talking about, about 100,000 troops and he reduced it to 10,000. still quite a presence there. i think about the phone calls and what happens behind the scenes. what is going through each leader's mind? vladimir putin, of course, did go through with annexing crimea i can't. that was when president obama was in office. joe biden was vice president. and then a new sheriff in town. relationed changes. a lot of leaders looked at the former president trump in a different way. now joe biden again back in charge. you think to yourself, leaders look at joe biden and think there's a weak presence in the white house. if there's time to make a move like this, the time would be right now. >> well, i'm not sure that putin really worried about which president is in force. he knows if the u.s. military is the same no matter which president is in there. you do hit a good point, which is important. that putin has demonstrated that when he says that he has these red lines about military formations on his border, he has acted in the past to make good on those threats that he will not allow that with georgia in 2008 and crimea that 2014. so we can't dismiss his claims here. we have to enter into substantive diplomacy and that means gives and take. we have to prevent any kind of conflict because that is not in our interests. >> jackie: you bring up a good point with respect to what you're saying. it's interesting to think about the notion that, you know, our enemies tested this president the moment he walked in to the white house. watching to see his reactions and how his foreign policy would make it. he's made blunders, his withdrawal from afghanistan. leaders are looking at him and questioning his ability to lead america forward and to be somebody to reckon with. >> well, here's what biden has to be very careful about. he can't be too concerned about "looking tough" which many mean are advocating. because that could spawn an attack that russia says if you want to be tough, we'll take action. it escalates. now we're in a new world of problems here. that's not going to help us. so i know biden will come under accusations of being weak if he negotiates with putin. i'm telling you, it's worse for america if he -- if being tough spawns an action with russia and then we have to deal with a conflict. >> jackie: i'm curious to get the read-out from that phone call and see what the messaging was. thanks for your insights. great to see you. >> thank you. >> jackie: all right. now let's get to the latest on the covid situation. because covid cases are climbing back up. more of those new year's eve celebrations are being scaled back. fox news correspondent steve harrigan in atlanta with the very latest. high, steve. >> jackie, with new cases, records being set in the u.s. and at least 15 states as well notching their highest numbers since this epidemic began, the cdc head saying hospital rates are still comparatively low. that's not the case here in atlanta, the home of the cdc where six atlanta hospitals issued a statement saying that they were undergo ago staggering surge in new covid patients with adults and children. the surgeon general had a stark warning. >> the most important thing for vaccination is to save your life and keep you out of the hospital. >> it's likely the real numbers of the covid cases could be considerably higher. that's because people taking the rapid at-home tests generally don't report the results of that and the cdc has issued their highest level warning for cruise ships. basically saying don't get on a cruise ship. level 4 warning. no matter what your vaccination status. in new york city, preparations continue for the ball drop. however, because of covid, it will be a scaled down event from 57,000 to 15,000 all masked and vaccinated. >> jackie: thanks, steve harrigan. we're watching this so closely. catching omicron could help find off the delta variant. a read on that from associate professor, dr. devy. great to have you here. the cases are rising what is being reported right now does and adequately measure what is happening across the country. so many people are testing with the at-home kits what we're seeing here is a continuation of some of the fear that has been out there throughout this pandemic. there's those that say if you have been vaccinated, you've been boosted, you suffer reduced symptoms, that's a good thing. we're going to head to herd immunity and this will be behind us in 2022. >> right. so that will be the evolution of this. eventually we will hit herd immunity, whether it's through natural immunity or the vaccine. in this case, omicron is taking over as the predominant variant. even with the mild symptoms, we're making progress and the hospitalization rates and the death rates weren't were they were in the past. here in new york city, i do hear sirens throughout the night. i see people reporting that they're positive and that surge is creating panic. when i walk outside, what i see is lines going around the block. i think what has happened, people are focused on the masks, the vaccine debates and the control measures from the past. if i look at these lines, for example, in new york city, the lines -- you have food carts in the middle of these lines just because of where they're placed. you have subway entrances where people are coming in and out of this wall of people that have covid symptoms that are trying to get tested. then you have people waiting for boosters that are packed together for six hours at a time trying to get $100, which was the incentive that was given. so some of those folks may have symptoms as well. too i think we're moving in the right direction, i wonder if the approach we're taking is forgetting, you know, just the basic infection control measures. >> jackie: you're right. i see the line and i cross the street. no reason to put yourself under those circumstances. also, we talked to other doctors that say don't forget keep watching your hands, boost your immune system. you look at omicron and these numbers. you think to yourself, you know, this was anticipated by everybody. we knew we would see variants. we knew we would see other strains. at a certain point you look at the cruise industry. you shouldn't take a cruise if you're vaccinated. are those kinds of me sures necessary at this point? the hospitals are not causing an alarm bell right now. >> i think that the fear can be more paralyzing. when people get afraid, they forget not just quality of life but basic things. people are so afraid of covid that they forget about their regular health checkups and other things that they need to do. if people are very high risk of having severe illness, complications, three or more risk factors, that is a different story. for regular people, i think just being locked in and living like this, it has its effects, too. it can take its toll in depression, anxiety, all types of things. just the dreariness and the bleak outlook, i think they -- that takes its toll on people, too. the liver transplant rate from alcoholic hepatitis tripled last year. you're seeing the effects in other forms and we need to take that into account. our focus has been on covid but it's not helped other people's health and well being in so many ways. >> jackie: i have spoken with acquaintances traveling and said listen, i got my vaccine, i got my booster. it's time to live life. i'm not going to stay cooped up. if it happens, it happens. we'll run through and move forward. speaking of the psychological impact, a lot to be said for that as well. >> yeah, i think also, you know, for people, they need to see an end in sight. if we look at history, not just covid, viruses move forward towards an evolution where they do become more contagious. they become more contagious because they're trying to adapt and infect more people. they'reless deadly over time. so that's a natural evolution. here the focus needs to be on treatment. like what are we going to do for the hospital that do get hospitalized and at risk to protect them. there's mono clonal antiboies that work. what is happen something where is the supply chain being disrupted? >> jackie: we've been talking about that nor weeks. where are the therapies. where are the pills and masks so that people are able to have access to them if they're infected and they can move on. that's the big question. unfortunately you and i can't answer it. really good to see you. happy new year as well. >> happy new year. thank you. >> jackie: okay. coming up with covid still surging, so are the flight cancellations. how much will this turbulence be lasting? what the airlines are saying next. >> jackie: crime surging across the country. one grocery store chain is beefing up security. we'll have that story coming up. back in 60 seconds. and it's not just covid related. staff shortages causing the problem. the severe weather including tornadoes forecast for the south and storms out west that are making travel difficult. according to flight aware, more than 1,200 flights ended up sitting on the ground. airline customers are anxious and frustrated. >> we've been nervous about getting back home because we saw the cancellations and then with the increased cases of omicron. >> i don't know what i'd have to do. i'd have to rent and car and travel 1,300 miles across the country. only imagine what they're going through. >> as for individual carriers, jet blue cancelled 17%. alaska air, 14%. the airline said they needed more time to de-ice plays in seattle. united cancelled 9% of today's flights. many air lines say they're notifying passengers as much as possible in advance to prevent them from making unnecessary trips to the airport. that said, however, keep this in mind. tomorrow new years eve, is already been said that 600-plus flights have already been cancelled. jackie? >> jackie: i'm imagining you have a lot of travelers that are very frustrated. thanks, david. to get the read on these air travel woes, michael boyd is here with us. this is goings on and on. the large surge in covid came at a horrible time. holidays, so much travel. how do the airlines navigate this? feels like they're melting down. how do they decide which flights the cancel, deal with the staffing shortages, deal with the customers that are probably very agitated? >> this is different than we've had other meltdowns. they know that they're going to be short so they're trying to anticipate where they can minimize the damage to the customer and their bottom line. so it's kind of a controlled meltdown. it's not something where airplaneses are ending up all over the country unexpectedly. the airwaves are full of e-mails saying we rebooked you for next thursday or something like that. they're trying to do the best that they can. this is something that they can anticipate unlike weather issues. >> jackie: you think the new cdc guidelines will help under these circumstances? some will say it will make it more risky to fly and that the omicron variant will spread more. >> that's a medical issue one way or the other. if they decide a shorter quarantine period works, i would go along with them. but the real bottom line of this is there's a lot of fear of getting this disease and as a result, people will be pulling back including airline employees. a natural thing to do. so five days, ten days, i don't think it will be a lot of difference. the real issue, people are living in fear of getting this disease. >> jackie: what about winter weather? something that the airlines have to face. when you compound these problems, only makes it difficult to navigate. >> correct. it's been decided in holy scripture, you'll have weather, thunderstorms, whatever. it will only happen during a major holiday period. i haven't found it yet but i'm sure it's there. >> jackie: some people talk about air travel specifically. saying the air in the cabins, the full -- filtration systems, it's one of the safest place to be. one day we make one decision, the next day the next. we're upset. people want the masks off. i don't know what to make of it. what about you? >> it's not the mask requirement. it's the cover your nose and mouth requirement. it's different. so if we get a critical understanding of what the mask i have to agree with the ceo of southwest airlines. airline cabin air is about the same as an operating room. the different is in the operating room you have one sick person that you know for sure. i think the mask requirements as they structure today are counter productive. >> jackie: we're also having these conversations about vaccine mandates potentially to fly as well. your thoughts? >> well, what i have read and good lord, i don't know what to believe nowadays. a lot of people getting this omicron variant have already been vaccinated. so having a vaccination passport to get on an airplane doesn't make a lot of since when it's showing that vaccination doesn't necessarily make any difference. >> jackie: right. it does with respect to the severity of your illness. with respect to the spread, it doesn't. great to see you. thanks so much. >> good. bye bye. >> jackie: coming up, it's not just the airline industry dealing with turbulence. gyms across the country counting on a new year surge now faced with this covid surge. first, why 2022 could turn out to be a real pain in the -- at the gas pump. i can get live tv and on demand anywhere. look, serena williams... matrix... serena... matrix... serena... matrix... ♪ ♪ ♪ get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream. among my patients, i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of 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problem for democrats. i would disagree with you. i think there's an end in sight. if you look at the energy price app, gas buddy, they project that gasoline prices could be just under $3 by october. that is when people are going to start thinking about voting. it's clearly a problem now. but i think it's too early to predict whether it's a problem for democrats in the fall when people actually vote. >> jackie: an interesting way to think about it. it is hurting people right now. may not be top of mind in october. niece not to say it hasn't had an impact. there's those on wall street forecasting that oil will go to $100 a barrel if not higher than that. that the prices will go over $4. i'm not necessarily sure that we will come down by october. >> yeah, i mean, if it's were trading brent or wti, i would be rather than i am now. i don't pretend to know what oil markets do. the white house is looking at this in the short term and the long-term. but the short term, the debate and the discussion is what will happen with the cpi, with the inflation numbers. that directly relates to senator joe manchin and his hesitancy on the build back better agenda. the $1.75 trillion, whoever it is. let's assume for manchin to get a final deal and could be discussions going on right now, you'll need to see cpi tick down a couple notches. i don't know what those are. the more relevant number is january 12th, the next time we get a reading and then february 10th later on. we'll see whether or not inflation is going down but trending down. that's what they're looking at. >> jackie: there could be a little relief when it comes to those numbers. analysts are saying that they will stay elevated. when we look at cpi, it's outpacing wage growth. that is the problem. it's eating away at people's disposable income. when it comes to the white house and how they view this, how americans are viewing this is in the past when we had oil over 100 or been al business ordealing with a disaster natural ordealing with pipelines, that's not what we're dealing with this time. this time we're dealing with the administration's policies that have caused our oil production to go down and that's why gas prices are up. >> you're exactly right. if this white house cared about having a better oil supply, then joe biden wouldn't do things like cancelling the keystone pipeline. he would have mandates with the sec and the green new deal regulations which are just barrelling across the way. and rolling back a lot of things that the trump administration put in place to help lowter fuel prices. it's not just pain at the pump. it's heating your home as well. we have a tracker with the independent woman's forum looking at fuel prices. they're up 25% compared to last year. so the white house here, they've got a strike against them. they won the white house and it's a generic ballot. whoever wins the white house in two years, they're always at a disadvantage. now he's doing this new self-inflicted wound. biden is giving putin gifts by letting the nord stream 2 pipeline go through. i respect the office. but with all the talk of trump colluding with russia, it seems like joe biden is the one colluding with them with oil. >> jackie: gas prices aside, a lot of the policies have had an impact on the market. what do you say about that? >> well, first of all, i think it's also fair to -- i believe one of the things that president biden hasn't done well enough is point out that the big oil is using the inflation as an execution to gouge american consumers. i think it's unfair -- >> jackie: how can you say that? how can you say that? the democrats are saying that about food prices, they're say that about everything. we're dealing with supply chain issues. we're dealing with worker shortages right now. underlies costs are going up. that's why they're charging more. brad, we're actually paying for the kingdom of saudi arabia to pay their bills. >> again, i think big oil deserves a lot of the blame for this crisis because they're using the economy as an excuse to price gouge the american consumer. if they really cared about americans an consumers, they wouldn't be using this situation -- >> it's not up to big oil for consumers. it's supply and demand. >> the biden administration has rolled back any tax support or tax subsidies for big oil. they have already done that. they have gone after big oil as you called it. but it hasn't done anything. all they have done is hurt the oil companies by removing any sort of tax benefits or deductions. so the biden administration is doing everything that they can to squeeze big oil. at the same time, they're also squeezing the u.s. consumer. it's a tax on poor and middle class families the most. they are the ones that are hurt most. it's a tax on the poor and the middle class. >> jackie: hans, final word to you. >> gosh, i'm wondering if build back better will pass and a lot of electrical vehicles money for bikes as well. maybe we'll be biking everywhere because we have a tax free base to buy new electric bikes. that's all i can offer for your lively discussion. >> jackie: thanks to all three of you. thanks for coming on and expressing your views and happy new year to you all. >> thank you, jackie. happy new year to you. >> jackie: all right. coming up, as the crime surge continueses nationwide, one grocery chain is taking matters into their own hands to protect customers. we'll tell you the security steps that grocers are taking and if other companies will follow next. as a professional bull-rider i'm used to taking chances. but when it comes to my insurance i don't. i use liberty mutual, they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wooo, yeaa, woooooo and, by switching you could even save 665 dollars. hey tex, can someone else get a turn? yeah, hang on, i'm about to break my own record. yeah. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ >> jackie: hyvee says they're hiring their own armed security guards to keep their stores safe as crime surges across the country. welcome lieutenant randy sutton. good to see you. this is coming at a huge expense to companies. but essentially they don't know what else to do because local law enforcement isn't helping out. >> no, you're right. this is a sad commentary on where we have come today. there's a lot more to this story. that is, okay, so is the customer of this large chain of grocery stores, do they want to shop in an armed camp, which is -- sounds like what this is evolving in to. and more important than the actual putting in place armed security guards in paramilitary uniforms? visually they're looking at a deterrent. very soon it will come down of the policies in place by this company by actually using force including deadly force in the event of a robbery, retail theft. remember this, too, they're governed by the laws of the state. many of these companies have put security into place and don't allow them to use force because they're afraid of the civil liabilities that go along with using force. there's a lot more to this than just putting security guards in to a store. >> jackie: you bring up an interesting point there because we've seen this before where armed security is present and still a store is robbed or they do a smash and grab and there's nothing that they can do. you may find yourself in a situation or a company finds themselves in a situation where somebody actions rashly or not confined with the rules for whatever reason. a situation gets out of control and then you have another problem on your hands. >> exactly. let's look at this more universally, too. this chain is putting a large amount of money to put into place this trained security force. but not everybody can afford to do chains can. how about the mom and pops that are out there just barely making it as they exist today? and where is the failure? the failure is with the state legislatures who are watering down the consequences for crime. the prosecutors that have been put into place that essentially do everything that they can to molly coddle the criminal and care nothing about the victim. then we're talking about the people. look at some of the stores that have been closing their doors in major cities. who is victimized there? it's the old -- elderly people and those that can only walk so far. the city and the state have failed to protect them. this is really what is happening. >> jackie: it's a huge problem. we'll discuss it again in 2022. happy new year to you, randy. >> thanks for having me. >> jackie: coming up, hitting the gym? why mandates may have finance centers hitting a wall. orange theory ceo dave long is here next. now, she can have her cake and eat it too. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? 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