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54% believe it's concentrating on the wrong things. white house correspondent peter doocy starts us off tonight from the north lawn with what else the poles are telling us and what the administration is focused on today. good evening, peter. >> there is a correlation the more the president pushes this new progressive spending package the lower his approval rating falls. when he got elected, biden said he was going to work with his whole heart to win the confidence of the whole people and right now he doesn't have it. >> i see all my senate colleagues i'm so unaccustomeds to them standing up for me. [laughter] >> joe biden has been around a long time 53% say age is interfering with job including 28% of democrats. biden's policies are too liberal. right now his big push is for the build back better plan. >> the cost of the build back better bill in terms of adding to the deficit, zero. it will not increase one single penny of the deficit. >> as a matter of fact, it reduced the deficit acoshedzing to the experts. >> only 27% say that plan would help their family. 31% say it would heard. 33% say it would make no difference. a big difference in the vice president's approval rating trending downward from 50% in march to 40% today. harris' communications director is out. ashley leaves her post in december amid a flurry of reports the vp sun happy. >> so you don't feel misused or under used? >> no, i don't. [laughter] >> president's focus may soon shift abroad. >> do you support a diplomatic boycott of the beijing olympics? >> something we are considering. >> not tough enough dealing with china according to 60% of registered voters. >> american intel agencies have told the president they cannot crack the origins of covid without china's help. president biden had a chance to ask for china's help. why didn't he? >> well, i would say that the president's push for the chinese to be participate more, provide more transparent data and information we have never held back on that front. we have argued for it publicly. we argued for it at every level and the president did talk in his meeting about the importance of transparency. >> did he ask president xi to cooperate specifically with this u.s. intel agency-led investigation into the origins of covid. >> peter, it's clear that that's what we want. >> it's clear even though that's not something that president biden explicitly told xi when he had the chance. right now president biden is wrapping up a day of meetings inside the white house with the leaders of canada and mexico and this is the first out of the last nine so-called three amigos summits dating back all the way to the george w. bush administration that ends without a press conference. bret? >> bret: peter doocy live on the north lauren. thanks. we now a little more about president biden's massive social spending and tax plan. we have just received in the past few minutes the final cost estimated from the congressional budget office. the cbo. the congressional correspondent chad pergram tells us where things stand tonight. good evening, chad, what do the cbo numbers tell us? >> good evening, bret. the cbo says the bill will adds 367 billion to the deficit over a decade. they will make up revenue catching tax cheats. those figures are crucial. members can use the evaluation as a fig leaf to vote yes or justify a nay vote. the house is expected to vote on the bill later tonight. those numbers are important to unlock the votes to pass the bill. nod democrat democrats held out for analysis from the cbo. >> we are taking into account the cbo's score before we vote on any bill regardless of the size. and so when we are looking at a bill that's likely to be close to $2 trillion, it's responsible thing to get the best nonpartisan estimate we can. >> there have been efforts by some democrats to dismiss the cbo's score. of the numbers don't lie. >> the cbo has a political agenda. it builds its estimates not on what it thinks the truth is but what the research literature says is the consensus. >> the g.o.p. says some of the cbo figures are cbo oh no. >> i can't help but wonder what my so-called moderate colleagues on the other side of the aisle are waiting for with baited breath for a cbo score. you don't need a cbo score to know that $500 billion of unicorn climate agenda energy policies are going to drive up heating costs, drive up the cost of gasoline and cripple our economy. >> republicans say democrats misjudge the economy and president biden and democrats are overplaying their electoral mandate. they have narrow congressional majorities. but democrats believe they were too timid in responsing to the financial crisis of 2008. some wanted bolder action. democrats are now processing these numbers. a vote could come late tonight, bret. >> bret: you know, chad, it says that the cbo thinks the irs will get 127 billion from tax cheats. the administration had said that number was 400 billion. there is a difference there. this is kind of the easy part on the house side. the senate has a ton of work ahead it seems like a different game over there. >> yeah, absolutely. senate majority leader chuck schumer clear calendars promised a vote for christmas. look for joe manchin ton try to address inflation in this bill. they probably cut family leave. an altered senate bill goes back to the house, maybe, in january. we could be two months away from final passage of this bill. bret? >> bret: okay. we will follow it all. chad, thank you. we are still waiting for a verdict in the trial of the illinois teenager accused of murdering two people injuring a third at a protest in kenosha, wisconsin during the summer of 2020. the judge in the kyle rittenhouse trial has dismissed the jurors for the day. day that saw another major announcement from the judge. correspondent garrett tenney is live in kenosha with the latest. good evening, garrett. >> bret, good evening to you. after day three of deliberations, the jury has still not reached a decision but we now know that when they do, one cable news network will not be in the courtroom to hear it. today judge bruce schroeder banned msnbc from the courtroom for the rest of the trial. last night kenosha police detained a freelance producer for msnbc who they believe was following the jury's bus to take according to the judge when officers pulled the producer over, he told them he had been instructed by supervisor in new york to follow the bus. with blacked out windows that's been carrying the jury to and from the courthouse every day of the trial. that case is now under investigation. >> i have instructed that no one from msnbc news will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial. this is a very serious matter and i don't know what the ultimate truth of it is. >> msnbc news issued a statement saying while the traffic violation took place near the jury van the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations never photographed or intended to photograph them. we regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation. the jury has not been sequestered at any point during this trial and even after this latest incident, there no indication that plan is going to change going forward. after nearly 23 hours of deliberation, now, there is also no indication when this jury might reach a verdict as kenosha continues to brace for that decision. bret? >> bret: we will follow it garrett, thank you. meantime another trial, the defense has rested in the trial of three white men accused of murdering a black man in southern georgia. today the man who shot ahmed arbery conceded the victory did not threaten him in any way when they first met correspondent steve harrigan is live in brunswick, georgia, good evening, steve. >> good evening, bret. sundayenly this trial is moving quickly today was travis mcmichael cross-examination under the stand. the prosecutor really trying to undercut the idea that michael might have painted in self-defense. she'll painted a portrait on the one side you a ahmad arbery 25 years old running shorts and shirt empty-handed by no backpack by no accounts never threatened anyone, never brandished a weapon. on the other side two trucks. one pickup truck rammed arbery at least four times according to the police report and the other truck mcmichael father and son. father standing in the back with a pistol shouting cut him off. son driving with a shotgun. the prosecutor painted a picture of a man being hunted. here's that exchange. >> so you are telling this jury that a man who has spent five minutes running away from you, you are now thinking is somehow going to want to continue to engage with you, someone with a shotgun, and your father, a man who has just said stop or i will blow your [bleep] head off by trying to get in their truck? >> that's what it shows, yes, ma'am. >> cell phone video of the final moments was also used to try and reconstruct what exactly happened. the prosecutor saying arbery had a chance to try to run away, tried to use that chance instead those pickup trucks pinned him. in also mcmichaels social media accounts have been brought to light. the prosecutor trying to show that he is a potentially violent vigilante from some of those posts. here's that exchange. >> he said we have had a lot of trouble with thieves. it just worries me because my daddy is slap old crazy, lol. is he old as dirt and doesn't care about jail you responded that's what this world needs more of. my old man is the same way. >> did i say that yes, ma'am. >> says have to make an example out of somebody. you said that's right. i hope you all catch the vermont, correct? >> i did. >> there were more than 1,000 protesters out in front of the courthouse they manchd and chanted and made their voices heard. didn't want any more black pastors in the courtroom. he said they could prejudice the jury. several hundred more black pastors turned out today. >> bret: two men who served prison time for the killing of black activists and civil right advocate malcolm x in 1965. prosecutors and lawyers for the late can a leola islam and mohammed. found new evidence the men were not involved. they also said authorities withheld some of what they knew. mall dom x rose to prominence national islam black separatism. spent more than a decade with the group before becoming disillusioned and publicly breaking with it in 1964. he was killed at new york's ballroom while preparing to deliver a speech there stocks were mixed today. the dow lost 60. the s&p 500 gained 16. the nasdaq rose 72. both of those new record closes. up next, why would a professor at a major university try to defend pedophilia? we'll have the shocking details. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 2 in detroit as an audit says the state overpaid almost $4 billion in pandemic-related aid and financial assistance to ineligible claimants. the michigan legislature has criticized the system for mishandling eligibility criteria in the application process. fox 13 in seattle as amtrak resumes service on point defiance bypass after a deadly derailment in 2017. three people were killed. dozens injured when a train derailed over a bridge during inaugural trip. new technology will automatically slow or stop trains traveling above permitted speeds. and this is a live look at phoenix from our affiliate fox 10. the big story there tonight the clock is ticking for a lottery winner in arizona to claim a power ball jackpot. a ticket worth a million dollars was purchased back in may. lottery officials say the ticket must be claimed by today or it will expire. look in those drawers, check out the kitchen, it might be there. that's tonight's live look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ kevin! kevin? 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police departments reduce crime and encourage community policing. 183 law enforcement agencies will share the money. that move comes as some other areas consider and others reject the so-called defund the police movement. a professor at major university is off the job tonight following comments aimed at destigmatizing and defending a condition among the most reprehensible in our society. chief washington correspondent mike emanuel has the stunning details. >> fire allen walker. >> the university has placed protester on leave after protest by students erupted by research trying to normalize adults attracted to children. the university says the actions taken were to maintain a safe and conducive learning environment for students, faculty and staff. old dominion president brian hemp hill saying in a message to students many individuals have shared with me the view that the phrase minor attracted people is inappropriate and should not be utilized as a euphemism for behavior that is illegal, morally unacceptable and profoundly damaging. it is important to call pedophilia what it is. the uproar began with an interview about professor alan walker's book a long dark shadow minor attracted people and their pursuit of dignity. walker uses the turner map referring to someone who has peripheral attraction to minors. the professor notes that can include children who have gone through pursuant or not. puberty or not.>> primarily lesa advertising than the word pedestrian tile. a lot of people when they hear the term pedophile they assume a sex offender it isn't true and leads to a lot of misconceptions about attractions toward minors. >> walker says acting on the attraction is wrong. >> i want to be extremely clear that child sexual abuse is never ever okay. >> students have been protesting expressing outrage on social media. in an online petition to remove walker received thousands of signatures in a matter of days. >> being attracted to minors isn't normal at all no. one should feel that way at all. it's disgusting. horrible way. when he says he is okay with it is what made the whole entire campus feel uncomfortable and that's what started the protest. >> walker suggests this is coordinated attack on the lgbtq community and on academic freedom. old dominion university is a public university meaning students, parents and virginia taxpayers paying for that minor attracted person's research. >> bret: quite a story. mike, thanks. republican governors are trying to build on the surprise success of their winner in virginia to take control of more state houses next year. the governors are meeting in phoenix. national correspondent william la jeunesse is there. >> the only person not doing their job is the president of the united states. >> 20 republican governors, one just elected. >> virginians actually stood up, i think, on behalf of america and said it's time for common sense. >> and a few who are leaving. >> the biden administration has failed to provide leadership. >> met in phoenix this week to chart a road map to capture more governorships next year. >> we are going on offense all over the country where people are frustrated with their democrat sitting governor. >> 36 seat are up for grabs. 20 republican, 16 democratic. at least five are toss-ups. arizona, kansas, wisconsin, pennsylvania and georgia. >> in order to make big gains, they have to utilize democratic incumbents i think and historically that's difficult if not impossible but difficult. >> we never knew it would get this bad this quick. >> from the g.o.p. playbook tie democrats to rising prices, crime, and what is taught in the classroom. plus lessons learned from the youngkin campaign count no voter out. look forward, not back. >> these kitchen table issues are a primary concern. schools, jobs, cost of living, safe neighborhoods. and i think these are issues that will resonate across america. >> the elephant in the room, donald trump. >> can moderate republicans attract voters without losing democrats and independents? >> it depends on the state. >> what we are seeing focus on issue is actually a better approach for republican candidates, not focusing on trump. >> democrats argue these races are a year away. fortunes can flip. they will sell the infrastructure bill and if congress approves build back better puts money in the hands of voters and that they can run on. bret? >> bret: william la jeunesse in phoenix, thanks. up next, she is being called a marxist or communist by republicans. democrats say that's a akin to mccarthyism. we will hear to president biden's pick to keep the country's banking industry safe. ♪ go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette. >> man: what's my safelite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me... with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ ♪ >> bret: there is greying controversy tonight over president biden's nominee to regulate the nation's banking system saule omarova under fire for alleged marxist views that she expressed in the past. today she had a chance to explain herself on capitol hill. congressional correspondent aishah hasnie shows us. >> i'm not a communist. >> president biden's nominee to oversee the federal banking system says she is a defender of community banking. her critics though think she is a socialist from russia who wants to overall the entire system. >> i don't know whether to call you professor or comrade. >> and that set off fireworks between democrats and republicans at her senate nomination hearing. >> she renounced her soviet citizenship. >> i'm entitled to ask my questions. >> and you were. >> i didn't interrupt you when you gave your introduction. >> a cornell law professor saule omarova grew up in soviet russia attended moscow state university and received scholarship named after lenin. elizabeth warren called the criticism modern day mccarthyism. but it's her recent comments about the banking system crypto currency and fossil fuels that is rustling feathers on both sides of the aisle. viral video called oil coal and gas quote troubled industries adding we want them to go bankrupt if we want to tackle climate change, right? today she back tracked when confronted by democrat senator jon tester. >> do you see how risky it is to make that statement. >> i actually misspoke that was not well framed. my intention was exactly the opposite that we need to help those companies get restructured. >> the white house hopes her time serving in the treasury department under former president george w. bush will convince moderates. but in a 50/50 senate it only takes one to sink her nomination. senator tester, who had concerns before the hearing still had unanswered questions at the end of it. >> this is just the latest in a long line of some pretty tough nominations for this president. you will remember neera tanden for the office of management and budget she was eventually pulled by the white house. rahm emanuel for ambassador to japan and robert caliph for the fda. just some of the most recent picks that have faced democratic pushback. bret? >> bret: aishah hasnie up on the hill. thanks. president biden's approval rating on immigration continues to head south. just 31% of those surveyed in our new poll like his policies that is down 3 points from last month. one of the major issues on the border is the proliferation of fentanyl. custom and border patrol officials say they have seized more than 11,000 pounds of the deadly drug in the last fiscal year. that's more than twice the amount of the previous 12 months. correspondent bill melugin reports again tonight from la joya, texas. >> this meeting is a continuation of an ongoing conversation that you and i have had. our mutual concern about migration and what we will do as partners to address, in particular, the root causes of migration. >> vice president kamala harris meets with mexican president andre obrador in washington thursday afternoon where the two briefly discussed the ongoing migrant crisis at the u.s. southern border before the media walls shoed out of the room. >> thank you. >> both countries have been unable to get on the same page as illegal immigrants and drugs continue to spill across the border. >> bags. >> yeah. >> fiscal year 2021 cbpc 11201 pounds fentanyl nationwide. that's enough to kill more than 2 billion people. the seizures are significantly up from seizures in fiscal years 2020 and 2019. the largest fentanyl bust in 2021 came in august in owe at a mesa near san diego. that's where cbp recovered 127 pounds opioid snuggled a trailer driven by a mexico call national it had a street value of $13 million. and new on thursday, the western state's sheriff's association which represents sheriffs from 17 states declared a position of no confidence in dhs secretary mayorkas and urged president biden to replace him. writing in part, quote: america sheriffs have watched in disbelief as the southern border has turned into an invisible line in the sand. border patrol agents have been relegated to day care supervisors at housing units and when they do attempt to act, they are scrutinized, placed on administrative leave, and investigated for political gain. bret, press secretary jen psaki said that during discussions at the summit today, president biden and the mexican president are not expected to come to an agreement to bring back the remain in mexico policy. we'll send it back to you. >> bret: bill melugin reporting along the border. thank you. you were next, the u.s. and china in cold war over africa. ♪ >> it's really a question of, you know, the best deal that we can strike. >> it is about what we would like to think of as a race to the top. ♪ ♪ ♪ bret the federal government is charging two iranians with launching a cyber disinformation campaign to mettle in the 2020 u.s. presidential election. the plot allegedly targeted voters as well as elected members of congress in an unnamed american media company. the treasury is imposing sanctions on six iranians and one iranian group for trying to influence the election. meantime the u.s. and china are waging what some may consider a cold war in many areas. and the continent of africa is one of them. secretary of state antony blinken is there this week and china's activities are a major issue. state department correspondent benjamin hall is traveling with the secretary and has tonight's report. >> secretary blinken has brought the administration's progressive priority to africa. focusing in on climate change, sustainability, vaccine equity and human rights. >> today we are stepping up. >> but china has a very different africa policy. laser-focused on controlling key infrastructure and clear rare earth minerals essential to the future. secretary blinken says it's not about competition. >> our engagement in africa with africa, our partnership with nigeria, with many other countries is not about china or any other third party. it's about africa. >> standing next to secretary blinken today even nigeria's foreign ministry admitted china's terms were too good and he saw advantages in the u.s. china rivalry. >> regarding chinese competition in africa i don't want to sound, you know, -- cynical but sometimes it's a good thing for you if people attractive bribe and everybody offering you wonderful things. >> experts say administration's liberal agenda is losing out and doing nothing to counter chinese influence. >> american commitment to governance, admiral though it might be, has tended to impair u.s. efforts to china's growing influence on the continent because really what countries want are the cash. >> chinese are protecting their investments with military power and soon have are five military sites in africa. they are sending to south sudan a thousand troops they say they tore keep the peace and where they have major oil investments. >> secretary blinken has told allies in africa the u.s.s. will make them pick between washington and beijing. if something doesn't change it's widely that china will control. >> bret: benjamin hall in africa. the new panel on fox news polls and president biden's summit with leaders of mexico and canada. first beyond our borders tonight. taiwan commissions the first f-16 fighters. 64 jets have been modified with u.s. help. that's under half of taiwan's total fleet of f-16s. the self-ruled island is stepping up its defense capabilities in the face of continuing threats from china. russian president vladimir putin says the west is taking russia's warnings not to cross its red lines too lightly. putin also describes relations with the u.s. as unsatisfactory. tensions between russia and the rest have risen in recent days as concerns grow over russia troop build-ups near 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conference after the try lateral summit today? >> i don't think it's as scandalous in that in terms of the back story. >> should we expect a press conference tonight or tomorrow. >> i would not expect, no. you can take questions -- can you ask questions in any format, right? i don't think you need a formal embroidered chair for it. >> we would like the president. >> okay. >> bret: good luck with that i don't think it's happening. it didn't happen today. traditionally it does after that meeting with the leaders of canada and mexico. this as we have some new polls about the president's performance of a number of different issues. we will put that up there on every issue listed here including coronavirus under water. there only one point but in the most separation, look at afghanistan. the approval of 27%, 63% disapprove and the economy right there in the middle approval 36%. these numbers have to worry the white house. democrats heading into obviously an election year next year. let's bring in our panel byron york chief political correspondent "the washington examiner." mara liasson national political correspondent "national public radio" and bill mcgurn columnist for the "wall street journal." lawrence, great to have new studio. >> thank you, great to have you. >> bret: getting slowly but surely back to the panel here. press conference, unusual. >> unusual. but, you know what? presidents make up their own rules and donald trump did it the way he wants. to say. >> and they have had to clean up a little bit some of what the president said. >> they often have to clean up after him. but i don't know if having a press conference would make that any different. he has had one. he should have more. look, the press corps wants him to do more. he is going to decide what he wants. i don't think the american people really care one way or the other. >> bret: what about those numbers? >> the numbers are just terrible. what's interesting is i don't know whether people have just soured.if you don't like what ty is doing of course you don't like what he is doing on the economy or covid you will not separate those things out. the specific items of a president's agenda are only as popular as he is. but, it's bad. and democrats think they can turn it around by passing their agenda and by selling it to people. we're going to see if that happens or not. >> bret: yeah, byron, speaking of that, we will have a vote probably in the house late tonight on the build back better or the reconciliation bill. however you want to call it the cbo saying that it is going to add to the deficit if they calculate the irs is not going to be able to get tax cheats at 400 billion. but it might add some 300 plus billion to the deficit. so it would cost something potentially. >> it is odd for a bill that was not supposed to cost anything. but, you know, as far as this vote tonight or tomorrow is concerned, the public has had a chance to digest the bipartisan infrastructure bill that has been passed and been signed and that really hasn't made any difference in the president's ratings. the ratings reflect his job approval ratings reflect the substance of what he is doing on these issues. they don't like what he is doing on the border. they don't like inflation. they thought coronavirus should be over by now but it's not. so, all of these issues, very important issues, coronavirus being the one he really got elected for. the public is unhappy with what's going on. this is not a communications problem. this is a substance problem for the white house. >> bret: should point out the overall approval number is 44 in our poll. other polls have had 36, 37 as well. so there is the overall approval. when you look at the vice president's approval rating, we have that at 40% and you can see it ticking down from june, october until now, she was asked about that on abc. >> polls, they go up, they go down. but i think what is most important is that we remain consistent with what we need to do to deal with the issues we are presented with at this moment. let's again, look at what we accomplished. it's historic in nature. at least the biggest investment in infrastructure in a generation in america. >> so you don't feel misused or under used? >> no. i don't. i am very, very excited about the work that we have accomplished. there is a lot more to do and we are going to get it done. >> bret: vice president's harris communications director not as excited lost the job. no longer at the white house. bill, thoughts about her answer and where she is kind of positioned. >> yeah, look. i don't think the vice president has a lot she can point to what she has done she seems to be terrified going to the border. we saw the real border czar the president of mexico not the vice president. i will say for kamala harris. the kamala harris problem is not a kamala harris problem. it's a joe biden problem. they are looking at this, you know, the things that joe biden can count as an achievement, passing his infrastructure bill or the covid -- those are washington achievements. people want to see improvements in their own lives. and i think what they see is not just the president going in the wrong direction, but looking incredibly incompetent. certainly that's what we saw in afghanistan first they dismissed inflation. everybody in the administration telling us not something they should be worried about. they didn't predict it would be here at this level today. i think it's very hard to come up with an achievement. a concrete achievement that joe biden can point to and say because of this, americans are better off. as byron said covid is still raging. i believe more people died this year than last year. there are a lot of things he led us to believe that he was going to fix that he was the solution and i think a lot of people are just concluding a lot of people jimmy carter the job too big. >> bret: on the list of issues under water. the second one from the bottom is china 28% approval. asked about that summit, the virtual summit, we are finding more and more out about what wasn't said. take a listen. >> as it relates to how we engage with china, that we see it through the prism of competition, not conflict. that is our objective. but the president is going to raise issues where he has concern and he's going to look for areas to work together. >> did he ask president xi to specifically with this u.s. intel agency led investigation into the origin of covid. >> peter, it's clear that's what we want. that's what we have been pressing on. >> bret: malaria remarks he didn't say it. >> she didn't say one way or the other but it sounds like he didn't. look, china is going to be a huge problem for a long time and no, we don't want a conflict with china. we don't want an armed conflict with china. but going separate ways. decoupling. china is going to be the biggest economy on the globe. >> bret: a decision about the olympics? >> yeah, that's interesting. joe biden said today he was open to an diplomatic boycott which is kind of half a loaf. it means athletes can still go but there would be a kind of symbolic boycott from the united states government. >> bret: how does that work sim doll bowl lick boycott of the olympics. >> it doesn't work. i think it was stunning to learn that in a three and a half hour conversation the president did not wring up with president xi stonewalling on the origin of covid. and what we are hearing today with the meetings of the leaders of canada and mexico as far as mexico is concerned the president didn't bring up the remain in mexico issue. the white house said well it's under litigation we can't talk about it. the most important factor, really in this -- the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is biden's rescission of the remain in mexico program. it doesn't even come up. so, you wonder whether the president is really on the mark on some of these issues. >> bret: i mentioned earlier, bill, that the white house has had to have a bit of a clean-unjust in the past few days about some of the things president biden has said. now, the decision not to have a press conference. the canadian prime minister had his own press conference. what do you make about this? you have been inside white houses. >> well, look, it's because joe biden leaves a lot of question marks on things. you know, on china you can't just solve this by having dialogue. if you don't convey a message i don't know what the purpose is. i think it's very unclear what joe biden's china policy is. it's very difficult. i think he took a good step on the submarines and the deal with australia and so forth. but there is a lot left to do. and right now i would say for me the key test of a policy is does it strengthen our friends in the region like australia and taiwan whom china is trying to bulling or does it weaken them. the first thing we have to do is keep our friends, keep them secure. keep them safe safe, and keep them strong. >> bret: bill, if you are in this white house now are you saying yes, let's have this press conference or are you saying this president is not good at that format and not good in articulating in that way and don't have it? >> yeah. as a person that wrote speeches for president, i don't really believe communication is ever the problem. i always belief that behind the communications problem is the substance problem. what he needs is a clear policy and one that's going to work. >> bret: last thing quickly, mara, if they pass this in the house, the build back better, they have a long way to go in the senate. >> they have a long way to go. progressives failed to get the kind of commitment they wanted from rend joe manchin he still has the whip hand in the senate. he is in no hurry. >> bret: no hurry. all right, panel, thank you very much. when we come back, a look at a very special night last night. ♪ ♪ (judith) in this market, you'll find fisher investments is 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(other money manager) different how? don't you just ride the wave? (judith) no - we actively manage client portfolios based on our forward-looking views of the market. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions, right? (judith) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest. (other money manager) so when do you make more money? only when your clients make more money? (judith) yep, we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments we're clearly different. >> bret: fox nation streaming service had its third annual patriot awards last night in hollywood, florida featured many fox news channel hosts and anchors among those honored, most valuable patriot award. modern ward army first class john goudie. service to veterans award andy po jury. l and the heroism award to former green beret scott mann. a portion portion of the proceeds goes to the building homes for heroes foundation, an organization that builds modified mortgage free homes for injured military veterans. you can watch the whole event this sunday 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on fox news channel and, of course, you can stream it always on fox nation. it was a great event. congrats to pete hegseth for steering that whole thing. tomorrow on "special report," we continue to monitor the jury deliberations in the kyle rittenhouse trial plus the latest on the possible vote late tonight concerning president biden's social spending and tax bill and we have our focus on the midterms. we will look at a couple of key race. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. "fox news primetime" hosted by jesse watters starts right now, hey, jesse. >> jesse: hey, bret. thanks a lot. good evening and welcome to "fox news primetime." i'm jesse watters. day three of jury deliberations has come to a close in the trial of kyle rittenhouse. but, still no verdict. and with each day that passes, the tension in kenosha thickens with protesters outside the courthouse getting more impatient and rowdy. another person was arrested tonight in the midst of the chaos and was reportedly armed. but this is what the media wants. they love the turmoil. in fact, they have been fueling this divisive fire from the very beginning. so let's start at the very be

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