even pointing out that rifle speed has used. the defense team insisted rittenhouse acted in self-defense and the judge ordered the jurors to ignore everyone's opinion, including that of the president of the united states. this is "outnumbered." i'm joined with harris faulkner and kayleigh mcenany, kennedy, and in the center seat, "fox & friends" "fox & friends" weekend cohost and host of the patriot awards streaming live tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on foxnation.com, pete hegseth. the wisconsin governor put the national guard on alert for possible rioting with 500 troops now standing by. this comes as the final jurors were just chosen today. with rittenhouse literally having a hand in it as the judge had him draw the slips of paper. the jury is made up of seven women, five men, and one person of color. protesters are mobilizing outside the courthouse with some supporting the black lives matter organization and others carrying signs back in the right to self-defense. this is our own peter doocy tried to get the white house to clarify its past comments about the case. watch. >> i did president biden suggest that kyle rittenhouse i'm trial in kenosha is a white supremacist? >> i'm not going to speak to anything about an ongoing trial. where the president's past. what i can reiterate for you is the president's view that we shouldn't have broadly speaking vigilantes patrolling our communities with assault weapons. >> emily: pete hegseth, when you make of jen psaki's comments on behalf of the president of the united states? >> pete: indefensible. indefensible what joe biden's head in the past. indefensible how the media has intentionally mischaracterized the narrative around this case just like so many other narratives that turn out to be blatantly false or the person was of omission. "the new york times" characterized this case from the beginning, kyle rittenhouse was a white teenager. the people shot in the case, the racial background never identified. why? why not? what was the agenda from the very beginning? when i am heartened by is that ultimately with the media is saying, but the groups outside the courthouse are saying, none of that matters right now. the only thing that matters is a jury of his peers who get to look at the evidence that was presented meticulously in front of them. the judge controlled that court room. they will decide kyle rittenhouse's fate. let's hope intimidation is not a factor almost 12 inside the jury room. this is the american justice system network. narratives mean nothing compared to what actually happens with those jurors behind close doors. >> emily: kennedy, notwithstanding pete's great point, it didn't stop politicians from jumping in. congresswoman cori bush pleaded "when we marched in ferguson, white supremacists would hide behind a hill where michael brown junior was murdered. they never faced consequences. if kyle rittenhouse gets acquitted a testament that even seven years later, they can still get away with it." your thoughts. >> kennedy: i'm amazed that she is an elected official. all she does is unleash things like this to get attention. they are completely unhelpful. equating to experiences doesn't make them the same even if you try to do so. i will be very curious to see with the jurors say after they are done deliberating and after they deliver a verdict. i will be very curious to see how he felt the trial progressed and unfolded and i'll be curious to see if they feel the prosecution really lost the plot throughout. that seems to be the growing analysis. that they are trying to make an emotional case and ignore the facts. the facts may be the most inconvenient saying that the jury has to face during their deliberations. >> emily: kayleigh, the narrative is spoken by kennedy and pete, that the media had a hand in crafting, there narrative was set a year ago and that narrative was reinforced over and over again by many journalists and media outlets. take a watch of a few of the clips people watched last year. >> rittenhouse is basically what you would've had in a school shooter. crossing straight lines to supposedly protect property? no, he was going out to shoot people. >> it's not good that a 17-year-old vigilante, argued leo domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle and drove to a different state to shoot people. >> the violence has come from an outside trump supporter, kyle rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. >> shooting wildly, running around acting like a renta cop. >> took his ar-15 to kenosha and became a killer. >> kayleigh: that's not journalism. it's jumping to conclusions if not outright defamation. the fact that the agenda check out then democrat nominee, joe biden. yesterday from the podium, we saw those clips, she says i'm not going to comment on a case. that's a fine answer but when you say i'm not going to comment on a case, you then don't comment on the case that buzzwords that your friends rachel maddow and don women are going to pick up on. not commenting but vigilante with the assault rifle. that's commenting on the case though she vowed not to do so. think about the lies of the been told about kyle rittenhouse. we told took over told he had an illegal weapon, that he was chasing after people. that he had no family in kenosha. we were told all those things of anyone who watched the trial, found out not true. we will see with the jury comes down. i will say jacob blake was shot in kenosha. it results in violence in the streets. our leaders, i hope we here for a call from -- a call for peace. it should be reiterated because the stakes are very high. >> emily: harris, you've covered so many high-profile trials on yesterday in the courtroom we had a visceral reaction to an incident in the courtroom when during closing arguments the prosecutor raised up the actual ar-15 rifle that rittenhouse had used and pointed the rifle at people in the court room after asking on the mike, make sure the gun is empty. what you make of that? >> harris: my initial reaction was does he have the experience and the acumen to make sure that it's not chambered? does he understand how to make that a safe situation before he points a gun at 12 people? regardless of what the guy the little blue gloves does, i didn't hear him in the courtroom be deposed and say are you certain this gun is blah, blah, blah. are you certain. on the record. i want to see something like that. on the heels of what we have seen on a movie set in the last 60 days with alec baldwin. it's more than fair. let's make sure it's a safe situation. and then, i don't know, your -- you're an attorney. what good does it do to point the gun at the jury? if you're trying to say and i know this was the prosecution's argument, but kyle rittenhouse was the aggressor, now the only person who looks like an aggressor to me is the prosecutor, thomas binger. didn't take the safety of himself into his own hands. i would want to look at that gun. if you don't have the experience in that moment to be able to do that, put it down. i don't need that much drama. i don't think the courtroom needs that much drama. he has backfired on himself so many times, no pun intended. but his mistakes. what is he going for? is it the 11th hour, the gun? >> emily: he broke a fundamental rule of gun safety. don't point the weapon and anything you're not intended to shoot. he shot himself in the foot with the antics. no pun intended. safety is the fundamental concern, the tragedy on the heels of this tragedy, for him to do that in the courthouse. >> harris: what an aggressor looks like. >> emily: pete, i would like to show for you another antics. he attacked the emotional testimony and praised the rioters in kenosha. >> he showed no remorse for his victims, never tried to help anybody, even on the witness stand when he testified on wednesday, he broke down crying about himself. not about anybody getting hurt that night. in this case the crowd was right. the crowd knew that the defendant had just shot someone. when they are coming after him, they know he is just shot and killed joseph rosenbaum. not every active shooter situation use the crowd have perfect knowledge in that crowd was full of heroes. >> pete: this guy made a fool of himself. talk about pompous. every time he talked about skateboard or the foot on his skull, these were not weapons. there was a mob chasing this kid at this point. every decision he's making, if i and knocked unconscious, if i fall, the mob distance. those weapons become deadly. anyone is watching him common sense and his handling of the rifle. the way he talked about ammunition in the rifle showed how little he knows. then he barely puts it on his shoulder, holds it delicately, and puts his finger in the trigger well. never put their finger in the trigger well in a room full of people. you know why he didn't clear to check it, because he doesn't know how to. made a full of himself in the process. bad news for him. >> emily: will let you know immediately upon what those 12 jurors and deciding. dhs secretary mayorkas faces congress over migrants failing to report to immigration officials and more. >> how many murders have you released? 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>> senator, i respectfully disagree with your use of the term cages. >> fine, you can disagree. how many children have been in the biden cages. i've been to the biden cages. i've seen the biden cages. has joe biden been down to see firsthand the biden cages? >> senator. >> has joe biden been to see this facility, yes or no? >> the president has not been down. >> how many murderers have you released? speak i'm not aware of any murderers. >> how many rapists? speaker not aware. >> how many child molesters have you released? >> not aware of any child to be 25s whom we have released. >> harris: they could have just put him on record and pushed play. >> pete: good for senator ted cruz for asking the questions the rest of us want to know. who are you releasing and where are you releasing them and what do you know -- >> harris: and do they have covid? >> pete: and do they have covid? the answer is you anointed because you don't care. you're not closing the border. you're facilitating trafficking of hundreds of thousands of people. he had the audacity, mayorkas, to say that the southern border is close. spend one minute with a border agent, with anyone on the border regions and you know that that's a flat out lied. that's not nuanced. it's not obfuscation. it's a lie. they know it's open. they wish we didn't have video cameras and drone footage. asking tough questions. they tried to stop it. it's amazing, the audacity. >> harris: and you and i mean they tried to stop us from seeing it. they didn't try to actually stop what's happening. kennedy, we got some breaking news, as mayorkas was sitting there and i believe it was senator graham who was talking with him at that point and senator graham said a million people, you're telling me than a million people have received orders to leave the country and they are still here? why is that? he couldn't answer that and while they were going back and forth, we learned that the images of the border patrol on horseback, that many in the white house, the administration of biden and some of the mainstream media have said they were whipping people on those horses. none of that turned out to be true. here was a big promise from mayorkas, in a few days we are going to have this investigation. that never happened. today the dhss we are actually not going to look into it. we are going to pass into the office of responsibility. i don't know what happens after that. he basically had a rug lifted out from him twice today, question's he can't answer and by the way the one thing he promised, not happening. manchin's secretary of the department of homeland security, he should be anticipating. especially the senate judiciary committee, he should be expecting those questions and should be repaired and should have solid answers. he's either lying or he's completely misinformed and if that's the case, either of those scenarios come he's not to fit to serve in the capacity where he is currently employed. you've got a 100% 98 -- 128% increase in people coming over the border, year on year, the number of people coming over, they have that in the message that the borg are disclosed in you've got four times the numbef unaccompanied minors. another thing i want to know from secretary mayorkas, how many people are working for the department of homeland security overseeing these poor kids they are throwing in cages, how many of them are child molesters? i don't think these kids are being kept safe at any part of their journey or arrival. >> harris: let's pop up those numbers, shall we? kennedy was mentioning the apprehension jump we've seen. 164,000 crossings. if a seven border for the month of october. that's up from last october. >> kayleigh: we talked about those numbers. we should talk about those numbers. we hear conversation about the 20 year high, the record breaking numbers, we should hear about those numbers but we should also hear about is the kids that have crossed the border and this to my knowledge was the first time we really saw the dhs secretary, biden administration, great humanitarian, question on that front. here we've been keeping up with the story, going back to the summer when the associated press reported of this network of emergency intake facilities, huron "outnumbered chemicals what we have cover the reporting, they had close down houston facility because young girls were put in horrible positions. the suicide watch list. why hasn't our leader and asked about it? today they have been asked. where is kamala harris? where is joe biden? thank you, ted cruz, for asking questions that should've been asked long ago by the white house press corps. >> harris: he's in a border state come he's familiar with this. andy biggs in arizona. they have been sounding a bell. apparently they can't hear bells of the white house. >> emily: i think it's falling on deaf ears. triple digit increase doesn't include the got-aways. just to go back for a second, this amazing infrastructure bill that was passed that will settle our economy and our tax dollars for seemingly ever. it eliminates the requirement for social security for illegal children, legal immigrant children of illegal immigrant parents. it will affect about 600,000 children. >> our tax dollars will pay for $8.2 billion with of child tax credits for illegal immigrant children and their illegal immigrant parents. it also eliminates the work requirement and everyone's favorite democrat joe manchin has something to say about it which i think will become a sticking point for theocrat party. he said i believe government should be your best partner but it shouldn't be your provider, he said here we have a moral obligation to provide for those who have incapacity such as physical or mental but everyone else he said should be able to help and chip in and that's the exact opposite of what our government is doing. >> harris: what you just said about tax dollars. 8.2 billion. paying for tax credits, offset tax credits for illegal immigrants who have children here. juxtapose that with, they can quarantine us if we test positive. but they cannot be quarantined. their rights supersede that some kind of way so even if we were able to test them all coming across the border, they don't have to stick by those quarantines. they can live wherever we put them. where are we? here's where we on the show, president biden, vice president harris or hugging after cnn sparked an online uproar. saying that the biden white house is fed up. now cnn is being called racist and sexist for writing it. first psoriasis, then psoriatic arthritis. even walking was tough. i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. cosentyx can help you move, look, and feel better... by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting...get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections some serious... and the lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms... or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. tell your doctor if your crohn's disease symptoms... develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur. watch me. ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx. >> kayleigh: president biden and vice president, here is putting on happy faces yesterday. despite a report her office is increasingly at odds with the white house. her approval rating is falling even more than the presidents less than a year into their administration. in a cnn story titled exasperation and dysfunction, report some of her staffers are furious of the white house for sidelining her with no in assignments. quoting one former aide on how the white house backed transportation secretary pete buttigieg after he got flack for taking paternity leave. saying "it's hard to miss the specific energy the white house brings to defend a white man knowing that kamala harris has spent almost a year taking a lot of the hits that the west wing did not want to take themselves." white house staffers are reportedly frustrated with the vice president's own gaffes, like her awkward laughter in june when nbc's lester holt asked her about the border crisis. harris, after the cnn article comes out, jen psaki puts out this tweet. it says in part "for anyone who needs to hear it, vp is not only a vital partner to the president but a bold leader." andy mccarthy comes out with this, he says "what must be going on behind the scenes that they decided to put out a 9:00 p.m. sunday night tweet." he said, you're a journalist, the story was based on more than three dozen aides, three dozen. that's a lot. >> harris: when you lose cnn. [laughs] that's part of a problem. they have got to be in shock that the love inside the tent is not real love. here's the big question i have. why don't we know more about kamala harris' demographics and we do about what she's doing? focusing on the fact that she was a woman of color and that's what he was going to put in the job and we haven't heard him tell specifics about her acumen and her specificity, her goals, her abilities, her skill set, for all the jobs he has given to her, he layers it on. that's not somebody was a great deal of belief in you. they would be selling it as, they are giving it to you, setting you up for a win. i don't know what's going on because i don't have the sources that cnn has or the three dozen that others are talking about. i do have the experience to know that late sunday night responses like that, and the piling on the responsibilities that you have no hope of completing are not a sign of friendship or love or support. they are a sign that maybe somebody either doesn't want to compete with you or they're not really sure what to do with you. the only thing we have seen since her before that was or did president obama do with hillary clinton? she traveled all over the world. maybe they were best ease but it had to be by virtual. >> it's a good observation. lamenting the lack of preparedness. no one is preparing her but when you go into the role of press secretary, vice president, president, there's no preparation guide. no one prepares you for that. you have to rise to the occasion. i kind of think that's a rather lame criticism that no one prepared me for this. >> she spent all of her campaign telling us why she would be prepared to take on the challenges. why she was more than qualified. of course it doesn't make any sense. to me just rings hollow, the fact that she thought she was a leader to begin with because a true leader would say absolutely, here's what i'm doing, here's what i've accomplished. here's what i've got to do, here is my strategy for it. i accept this challenge and i'm prepared for it. it's the opposite of leader if you keep telling everyone why -- oh, sorry. this didn't get done in this way. the excuses are what we keep hearing. jen psaki's tweet, i find it notable that all she's said about the vice president's challenges but no mention as to whether she's achieved success. >> the vp circle saying she hasn't been prepared. her defenders, i thought this was interesting. when they are annoyed, some pass around a recent onion story, we know that. mocking her lack of substantive work. one with the headline, white house urges kamala harris dissident computer all day and take emails. they back down the aaron sorkin rumor. that's fascinating. >> pete: it's interesting. i would like to second what harris and emily said. you're right, if you watch cnn through exhaustive reporting to say that your first black female vice president has made herself largely irrelevant inside the white house, you really know you're going sideways. i can't stand the way in which they try to characterize it about race. this is about competency. it's about leadership, emily, as you said. it's about, if i have been given the charge of being the borders are that i'm going to look at the problem and tackle it. i'm going to go where the problem is the worst. instead she attempts to avoid it, she goes to the triangle countries and looks for these magical root causes and makes statements that have a rush back to washington. she has not delivered on her portfolio. if you can't deliver, you become a liability. >> kayleigh: a after all that you have a veep moment from yesterday. watch. >> please welcome heather kurtenbach. >> please have a seat. >> harris: oh my goodness gracious. >> emily: my name is not heather kurtenbach. it's kind of sad. you see someone who's imploding before your very eyes and i can't help but think that a lot of these stories are not just sourced by people who have worked for the vice president. it feels like a lot of these stories are coming from the administration, from the president's team. it really feels like they are trying to turf her. none of us has a good outcome. the close if you try and smear her so badly, she may end up looking like the victim. people may feel badly for her, and if you try to keep her off the ticket in 2024, the very qualities which made her so attractive. >> harris: that she is black and she is a woman. a >> kennedy: if you're turning your back on that, you're turning your back on the democrat faithfully. you become a total hypocrite. they are going to replace kamala harris with pete buttigieg? 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"time" magazine also blaming consumers for the supply chain crisis. how american choppers broke the supply chain. sounds like some of the argument we have heard from the biden administration. some are calling her stephanie antoinette. we have the money to pay for this. wait. >> pete: for sure. let them eat cake. it's your fault that you don't have enough in the supply chain right now. i love that they continue to go with the "don't believe your lying eyes strategy." it's evident everywhere in every part of our lives, whether it's for the elite, its airline tickets, whether it's everybody, gas prices, home heating prices, basic food and commodity items. everyone sees it, yet they are willing to somehow try to say everything is just fine. guess what the solution for this is. our big old socialist spending bill. we are going to flood the zone with trillions more in printed money somehow things are going to continue to get more expensive. they are attempting to lower expectations. that's what socialists always do. it's going to be more equal, so you better lower your expectations. >> kayleigh: you have stelter with his amazing, overflowing abundance. >> kennedy: he's completely out of touch. he showing a picture of a dairy case and dairy is local. the supply chain happens to be a global problem. you have a lot of people talking about inflation who don't understand it. a big part of the issue was that the federal government really did over saturate the economy with free money, especially during the pandemic. mortgages and rent, there was a moratorium on paying rent for a lot of people. people are paid to stay home, yet they were given money so they were buying things, yet they were locked down so they couldn't make things. that really exacerbated problems that economists had seen coming for a long, long time. the event talking about these inflationary bubbles for years. now you have parts of the globe still locked down and you have multitrillion dollar spending bills which is essentially going to devalue u.s. currency. so what you're seeing with higher wages is a run on the u.s. dollar. eventually with that is going to do is flip the economy on its head and create a recession. >> kayleigh: gosh. we certainly hope not. emily, you have this from msnbc's tiffany cross. >> my brother is a truck driver. he drives across the country. it's very nerve-racking to me. this is an industry populated by a lot of white men. a group of people who overwhelmingly voted for trump. some people have talked about aggressive truck drivers cutting them off for not being helpful. obviously the more populated with people of color, i think you'll see more -- less of that. >> emily: gross generalization of an industry. the takeaway event. the helpfulness of certain drivers. i would love to see her platform being utilized, for the fact of the trucking industry works far longer hours on average than any other industry. they make less than the median wage. the majority of them are independent contractors which as we know in california, they are suffering and will likely be priced out of the supply chain altogether which makes absolutely no sense. if the highest rising group within the industry. african-americans as well as veterans. i would love to see a more accurate representation and characterization of this industry, including how about a bit of gratitude? how about a thank you to the truckers who essentially work day and night risking life and limb on the highways so that we can get our commodities and the things we are used to in the supply chain. she has an issue with that situation, taken up with the regulators in d.c. because that would help enables men and women to be home with our family every night safely, for shelves to be stockton for americans to understand exactly just how this economy works. >> how about we stop -- more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ i jump up on the stage ♪ move your student loan debt to sofi. earn a $500 bonus when you refi... and feel what it's like to get your money right. ♪ i do my money dance ♪ this is a va mortgage rate watch from newday usa. while national mortgage rates are starting to climb, newday is holding the line at two and a quarter percent, 2.48 apr, the lowest in their history. refi now. >> a jury in kenosha, wisconsin, deliberates. when can a verdict be rendered and what will the impact be? president biden takes a victory lap this afternoon, touting the bipartisan infrastructure building new hampshire. will it save biden's agenda or are voters already looking past the president? robert wolf gives us his take. as americans weigh the risk of traveling as covid continues to rage, why is the cdc so far behind in data that will play into people's decisions? dr. nicole saphier weighs in paradigm john roberts. joined sandra smith and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> emily: the ceo of mcdonald's to meet with the families of two children shot and killed in chicago over the past year. one of them by police. this after protests over text messages he sent chicago mayor lori lightfoot about the deaths of black and latino children killed in gun violence. the mcdonald's chief wrote "tragic shootings in the last week both at our restaurant yesterday and with out of toledo with both the parents failed those kids," even harder to fix. critics called the texts racist. others say that the ceo has just been telling the truth. he's apologized to him and calls for him to resign. kennedy, your thoughts. >> kennedy: i am not loving it. boy. he's a real hot water and it just goes to show, anything that you send anyone is going to be made public. and i don't know. i feel like as soon as you apologize, you are setting yourself up for cancellation. i will be awfully surprised if he retains his job. >> emily: pete, "the wall street journal" wrote "the problem as he noted his text is that stating plane truths has become verboten. especially in regard to the behavior of racial and ethnic minorities like the victims in chicago. we are supposed to pretend that the high rates of violent crime and other social pathologies among low income blacks and hispanics can be blamed entirely on systemic racism and that the individuals themselves are blameless. it's hard to see, he writes, how we can address these and other social disparities if we can't have honest conversations about what's driving them. the political left's attempts to silence truth tellers were only doing those conversations." pete. >> pete: amen to jason riley. he's precisely right. clearly someone had an agenda to release these private text messages likely on lori lightfoot subside. how would they get out? what are they trying to do in this context? kennedy is entirely right. when you apologize you set yourself up to be canceled on us will what will happen here unfortunately. but he's being honest. i don't know these particular cases but whether it's white families or black families, hispanic families, broken families lead to problems and if there are problems we should be honest about that and the feeling it brings the kids in those communities, that conversation is almost completely gone especially on the left, instead replaced by systemic problems. as opposed to treating people like individuals on helping rebuild families which is what kids really need. helps take them out of their crosshairs. it's unfortunate that him being honest will likely lead to his downfall. >> emily: harris can we talk a lot about national conversations, conversations in general, who is sitting at the table and that conversation, whose honest opinion is heard when we try to shove people into boxes collectively as a nation, what happens, which is nothing good because everyone is human and everyone brings to the table something exceptional in their own individual experience, to jason riley's point, he wrote you can't have an honest conversation if you're just sleeping with a broad brush. someone daring to voice their personal opinion. >> harris: the voices we can't hear are those of those little ones today. when you look at chicago and all the little ones who've been caught in gunfire and so much tragedy and violence in that city, i think it's a missed opportunity for mayor lori lightfoot. he's had a lot of stuff or two of these by hypocrisy in the pandemic doing things she shouldn't be doing, telling everyone else not to do them. what a missed opportunity for her to come forth. she could say look, you may see it that way. we have some things -- let's sit down and let's talk. i want to hear your perspective. i want to hear everybody. you talk about the proverbial table. the mayor at this point is to delete text messages, we could be talking about open conversations. does he get canceled? i don't know. i'm not going to predict the future for him. could be a long line of people behind him will feel like they want to say that the facts are that they see and witness and experience. and ends up saying i wish we could fix it. i wish we could fix it too, whenever it is that's broken. whatever it is that took those beautiful lives. i just wish we could fix it. let's not wish let's sit down and talk about it. sometimes it takes an uncomfortable spark to set you ablaze to fix a problem and i don't know why the leadership in that city runs from that. a >> emily: at such a tragedy that the failing and those in leadership and elected positions, the consequence to that are the lives of all of those beautiful children, innocent children. tomorrow fox nation honors american heroes with a third annual awards, the show's host, pete hegseth, will tell us about it next. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to. and... when he wants to. so ray... can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us veteran homeowners, newday's rates have dropped again. now you know. it's time to refinance. newday's low rate refi offers their lowest rate in history. two and a quarter percent. just 2.48 apr. save thousands every year and there are no upfront costs. not one dollar. the newday low rate refi. take advantage of these record low rates so you and your family can save. is a quizzical >> while tomorros hosting its third annual patriot award stream live at 8:00 p.m. eastern so you can catch it there by going to hollywood, florida, or, you can watch it live streaming. hard rock live theater in hollywood is where the haps will be. happenings for the cool kids. pete hegseth, tell us who's on the bill this year. >> it's an amazing lineup. and let me tell you, we talk politics 364 days out of the year. one night, tomorrow night, it's just patriotism and that's what you will get out the patriot awards. an amazing lineup of everyday heroes who never saw the spotlight. that's what is so cool. celebrities go to hollywood and california and they play heroes on tv, they are just doctors. tomorrow night we highlight the real heroes who never expected to be highlighted. there won't be a dry eye in the place, you will be a swelled with patriotism and at such an honor to host it. it's an event, a lot of fox, and that there are a few tickets left by the way in the silver tear. it we made a few notes more available so foxnation.com/patriot awards. >> have fun at that, "america reports." >> sandra: harris, thank you. fox news alert to kick off "america reports" on a brand-new hour. the jury in kyle rittenhouse is a murder trial beginning deliberation it will determine whether rittenhouse intended to kill two men or acted in self-defense. hello and welcome, i am sandra smith here in new york. >> john: good to be with you here on this tuesday, i'm john roberts in washington. protesters gathering on the steps in the courthouse in kenosha is the city and national guard remain on alert. i kyle rittenhouse