sitting before you to receive your approval. >> martha: colon powell in 2001 reflecting on his past to become the first black secretary state. a trail that he blazed as national security adviser. his family announced his death from covid-related complications. he had cancer as well. he was 84. he played a major role in u.s. politics for decades. many wanted him to be a presidential candidate. instead, he was president bush's secretary of state. eight months before september 11th. back then, the country was focused on the pressing war on terror. centers in iraq, afghanistan. today we learn of frightening advances in chinese military technology. a very important issue for the country to face and to think about and to be ready for. we'll talk about that in a few minutes. first, karl rove served with colon powell in the bush administration. he's pays tribute and talks about their relationship. first, jennifer griffin with a look back. hi, jennifer. >> hi, martha. known for his integrity, a soldier for 35 years, he will be remembered for the powell doctrine when he was chairman of the joint chiefs in the first gulf war, which stated the u.s. should only use military force if they have clear and achievable objectives with public support, sufficient firepower and an exit strategy. he told secretary of state madeline albright that u.s. troops should not be used as toy soldiers when she wanted to use the military in the balkans. his pottery barn rule, you break it, you own it. it's a tough lesson after the invasion of afghanistan and iraq after 9-11. born to jamaican immigrants in 1937, he wrote "mine is the story of a black kid from an immigrant family with no means raised in the south bronx." >> above all, never lose faith in america. its faults are yours to fix, not to curse. america is a family. there may be differences within the family but we most not allow the family to be broken into warring factions. from the diversity of our people, let us draw strength and not see weakness. >> he joined rotc at the city college of new york in 1962. he was one of more than 16,000 military advisers in vietnam where he spent two tours and injured. he was casper wineberger's military assistant and made the national security adviser for ronald reagan after the iran contra scale. he oversaw the invasion of panama and removed manuel noriega. he presented the purported intelligence suggesting saddam hussein had wmd to the united nations, which he later said he regretted. >> we lost one of the greatest leaders we have ever witnessed. i feel as if i have a hole of my heart learning of this. quite frankly, it's not possible to replace a colon powell. we will miss him. >> colon powell passed away this morning at walter reed. martha? >> martha: thanks very much reporting from the pentagon. karl rove served with colon powell. he's a fox news contributor. good to have you with us, karl. you and general powell worked together from 2001 to 2005 i believe was the time frame. your thoughts on this really surprising news that we saw cross the we're this morning. >> well, it's a sad day. a remarkable human that led a great life. his memoire is entitled "an american journey." it was an american journey. first generation american, born to immigrants. he was an engineering in major. dropped that for ology. he found his home, so to speak, by joining the rotc. he rose to a combat veteran of vietnam, white house fellow, national security adviser to president ronald reagan. named by george h.w. bush as the youngest chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and became the first african american secretary state in 2001 under george w. bush. making him until barack obama's election in 2008 the highest ranking african american in our government ever. he had great integrity. he loved this country deeply. he loved the american military. he was a brilliant man who brought all that he could to the service of our country. it's an interesting point in his memoire that he wrote "i have led a great life." he had. he has. >> martha: he certainly had. you recount his rife very well, karl. i know you had a personal relationship as well. he thought, you know, you're the political guy at the white house. at times you had sort of different approaches to things. give us a sense of your personal relationship. >> i could know when he was irritated with me. i very rarely got into his lane. but occasionally i had to sign off on appointments. he once recommended somebody that while they might have been suited from their backgrounded that nonetheless denounced the president of the united states being an idiot. so i raised options to it. i could tell when secretary powell was irritated with me. when he came in to the west wing, he would bark at me drop and give me 20, soldier. one time we were in this discussion about this potential nominee and he knew i was blocking it. i came out of the oval office and he was coming in. the president had something else he needed to do for a couple minutes. i was supposed to keep him company. he barked as me as said as he said drop and give me 20. i irritated enough i dropped and gave him 20. as luck would have it, he was hoping i was not going to be able to do it. so he got down on his knees and put his fist to bump off of my chest. the white house photographer came cruising in. so i have the photograph of me finishing my pushups at the direction of secretary powell. that was the last time he said "drop and give me 20, soldier." >> martha: we're not able to get it on screen, but's seen the picture and i hope everybody will get a chance to see it. it's a great photo. he's down on the ground under your chin making sure -- very impressive, karl. 20 pushups in the oval office. i want to play this. i read in some of general powell's writtenings, he said he believed it would be a prominent paragraph in his obituary, what happened in his u.n. testimony. he spoke about regretting that testimony on wmd later in his life. here's a little bit of that -- at the united nations in 03. >> every statement i make is backed up by sources. these are not assertions. what we're giving you is facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence. >> martha: what are your thoughts on that today, karl? >> look, it's natural to have a regret about it. this is what we knew at the time. what he knew at the time, what the world community knew at the time. part of the reason that we felt that he -- saddam hussein had wmd is because he wanted us to know that. he thought that the image of him having wmd kept him safe at home, discouraged his enemies in the region from attacking him, kept us out of his -- there. 14 resolutions of the united nations had been passed demanding that he live up to the terms of the surrender agreement and make accounting for all that material. he thumbed his nose at the world community. that's what we knew. turned out not to be true. granted, he was waiting for the moment that he thought that the west would lose interest. he was taking money out of the oil for food program, diverting that to keeping together a network of experts and scientists and infrastructure to reconstitute the programs at the earliest available moment. if we had known it was not accurate, we would have found other ways to constrain him. i think the secretary felt very particularly coming from the military background that he did, he felt strongly about that. look, i understand the sense of regret. if we had known what the real truth was, we wouldn't have taken the actions we did. we would have found other ways to constrain him. >> martha: i don't know if you remember your last interaction with colon powell. he pulled away from your party the last several years, voted against john mccain, voted against president trump. your thoughts on that part of his story. he said he didn't belong to either party in a not so long ago interview. >> no, he had become disenchanted with the drift of the republican party. but you could still have cordial relationships with him. i saw him at a lunch in washington d.c. at vernon jordan's house. i by accident ran into him at the airport in jamaica. i was giving a speech and he was coming back from a short vacation. this was a man that always had a smile on his face when he greeted a friend and who you could have disagreements with him but he didn't take it personally. that is the way it was. he came out of the military. he came from little. he talks about very movingly about having grown up in relative modest -- he had a gang. he had a gang. his gang was two blacks, two lithuanians and one puerto rican. those are who he ran around the bronx with. he lived the american dream. how can you not be optimistic if you come from the poverty of his youth and gone to the highest levels of our government and service to our country. he delighted in the fact that he was a soldier and he came not from westpoint but he came through the rotc unit at the city college of new york and rose to the highest rank in the united states military. that was an expression of what america was about. >> martha: absolutely. the post vietnam period when he rose to leadership, he elevated a new respect for the military that disintegrated dramatically in this country. whenever he had the opportunity in his leadership positions, he made sure people got to speak to the members of the military directly. so they could see for themselves what incredible young men and women that they were and are. and i think that is such a huge point to his credit as well that he was humanized the military and elevated them in a mindset that really took a beating after vietnam. thanks, karl. great to have you with us today. thank you. >> thank you, martha. well-side. >> martha: you bet. so the passing of this general and this american icon as we have been saying, he was fully vaccinated and died of complications of covid. raises questions about that in terms of break-through cases. we'll talk to robert 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comes to this specific report from the financial times. came out late saturday. it talks about what happened in august. china tested a nuclear capable hypersonic missile by launching it to low orbit space. the times reports that multiple u.s. intelligence sources were caught off guard. hypersonic is different in the fact that they can be precisely controlled even when fired into space. jen psaki was asked about this a couple hours ago. listen. >> we've made clear our concern about the military capabilities that the prc continues to pursue. we have been consistent in our approach with china. we welcome stiff competition but we do not want the competition to interfere into conflict. >> according to the financial times, this hypersonic missile missed its target by two dozen miles. that sounds far. according to experts, it's not far at all. it's pretty on point. as technology develops and as time goes on, things will get more precise when it comes to the hypersonic missiles. martha? >> martha: thanks, david. let's bring there general jack keane, senior strategic analyst for the army and chairman of the institute of war. good to have you here today. i do want to ask you about colon powell's passing but first i want to start with the hypersonic technology that we reported on here before and something that the united states and russia and china are working on. how many of a game changer is this technology in terms of warfare? >> hypersonic missiles is advanced technology. there's no system out there that can defeat it as of yet. what makes it so dangerous, it's not just the speed. we have ballistic missile that travel faster but speed is a factor. it's the fact that ballistic missiles travel on a predicted path. a controlled path. hypersonic missiles can zigzag, change altitudes and are dangerous. the chinese are in advance of this compared to where we are, which is very frustrating. china can reach our carrier battle groups in the pacific region and take them down in mass given the lethality of these systems and the fact that we don't have a defense against them to include our bases. that's why a number of us have been issues sort of a clarion call here to wake up, pay attention to the erosion of our military capability that happened because of the 9-11 wars and we're trying to catch up as quickly as we can. but we're not there. china clearly has military advantages over the united states that we must take seriously, martha. now they're introducing nuclearized hypersonic weapons if the financial times article is accurate. >> martha: you can't just estimate the importance of this headline, this story. it feels like we're focused on so many things in this country but we don't -- i'm listening to the white house talk about this this afternoon. jen psaki is saying we've made clear our concerns with the chinese government, that we don't want anything that veers into a conflict situation. what do you do think about their posture on this? >> well, these kind of nice words that we use to describe china, which i think in their minds they are in a cold war situation. they want to dominate the pacific and replace the united states as a world leader. how do we know that? they've said it time and time again. we keep trying to find nice rhetoric so we don't aggravate the chinese. but the fact of the matter is, we are behind. we have to catch up. now, there's good things the administration is doing. strengthening our alliances. that is very good what we're doing. we're attempting to up gun our military situation. but we have to do it with more of a sense of urgency and we need more funding to be able to do this. if you look at the priorities that china has, they're not where they should be given the seriousness of the situation that we're facing. >> martha: it's such an important message. a quick thought on general powell, sir, before i let you go. >> well, he's a towering figure in american life and history. i think he's an american icon respected all around the world. all of us had such high regard for him. he oozed leadership. he was gifted, natural leader. he had an unflappable temperament, which endeared him to many people. if colon powell was in the room, he had this commanding presence that you knew he was there not just because of his rank but that's simpling that he had all of his life. he started in rotc out of humble beginning and he found something that he had an aptitude at and he loved and excelled in it. how we have reaped the benefit of colon powell's life and his patriotism, his competency and example he set for others and the break-through he made in this country as an african american. oh, my. we'll miss him significantly. >> martha: yeah. as you say, you both hailed from a great part of new york in the bronx. two guys that really did well in life. served the country. thanks, general. always good to see you. >> great talking to you, martha. >> martha: you too. will president biden press china's leader on covid origins when they meet in a couple weeks? the other frightening thing, what could be next from these labs in china? dr. robert redfield weighs in exclusively on the story next. ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to. and... when he wants to. so ray... can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us >> there's extremely rare cases of death or hospital vaccinations with vaccinated individuals. that's even before the death of colon powell. a unvaccinated person has a ten times risk of dying more than a vaccinated person. >> martha: more on the death of colon powell that died from complications of covid-19. he was 84 years old. a spokesman has confirmed that his history included multiple treatments for cancer of the red blood cells. dr. robert redford was at the cdc at the beginning of the pandemic and a world renown virologist. thanks for being here. >> glad to be here, martha. >> martha: so your take on general colon powell, a very sad development today. this loss of this american hero. also the circumstances and what you think of them given where we are now with this virus. >> well, martha, you know, prayers to his family. great, great american. had the privilege to serve with him when i was in the u.s. army. it's really important. obviously this issue of maintaining immunity. i think we have not seen the urgency that we need to see in particularly the vulnerable to get them reimmunized. i hear a lot of times people feel it's a rare event that untilly vaccinated people may die. i happen to be the senior adviser to governor hogan in the state of maryland. in the last six to eight weeks, more than 40% of the people that died in maryland were fully vaccinated. those over 65 and those 16-65 with comorbidities to -- need to get boosted. very, very sad. we lost a lot of individuals in this period where their immunity has waned. in my view, it was unnecessary. we could have been more aggressive in getting our recommendations to get booster vaccines out. >> martha: an important reminder to everybody in that category to do just that. the last time you were here, doctor, you talked about the delta variant, which is on the decline at this moment in history in the united states. you said that you were worried there could be something more lethal coming. i spoke with dr. stephen quay. he talked about a separate virus that he's concerned about, something that they've been using and working on in the wuhan lab. listen to this. >> we found the lab was contaminated with a virus that is two years ahead. it's 80% lethal. so this is not -- if you didn't like the pandemic that was just 1% lethal, this thing they're working on in december 2019 has and 80% lethality. it needs to be stopped. >> martha: we still don't have any answers, definitive answers whether or not this started in the lab. dr. quay says it did start in that lab. what do you know about what else they're working on there and what are you concerned about going forward? >> well, martha, i don't have any insight information on the current activities. i do feel and i have written in the "wall street journal" that i think we should have a moratorium on gain of function research. in the old days, we were only worried about natural evolution. that's how these new pandemics emerge. we're in a new era now. since 2012, with the research that was published on modifying bird flu, to make it infectious for man, i advocated that that research not be published but it was. now we have a new scenario. new pathogens that can emerge from the laboratory. with covid-19, i've alwaysed that it's just more i think scientifically supported that it emerged from the lab. if you look at sars in 2003, 2004, it went from a bat to a cat 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party recently to launch his own party. first to madison alp -- alworth live in new york. >> experts are calling this the great resignation. a record-breaking 4.27 million workers quit their jobs just this august alone. that is the latest from the labor department labor turnover survey. some employees are deciding to retire early. others, mainly women, have decided to stay home to take care of children with the uncertainty around school. this is at a time when we're seeing more jobs available than ever. over ten million job openings in august. >> in the past, we've had about 50 r.n. openings. now we have about 150 r.n. openings. it's substantially increased. this is the era of the great quit in healthcare. i've been saying this is a nurse's market right now. every organization has openings for nurses. >> so they're offering $20,000 signing bonuses for experienced nurses to come in. even with that, they're struggling for new hires. this is a problem that could get worse before it gets better. half of the working americans want a career change. >> martha: madison, thanks very much. joining me now is andrew yang who reason for president. he also ran for mayor of new york city as a democrat. now he's launching his own party as an independent. he's author of his new book. what do you think about that in work participation rates are scary and heading towards the level of france and italy. how do we have a society that doesn't want to go to work in the morning? >> we have to do everything to get labor participation rate back up. this is all about connectivity to one's community. i'm a fan of anything that creates more touch points for people and urging them to get back to their job or another job that they're excited about. >> martha: do you see that happening in terms of this huge 3.5 trillion program that the white house says that they want? is that going to encourage people to go back to work? >> one thing that has been working is the child tax credit, 69 million americans have gotten that put money in people's hands to take care of their kids but freed people up to be able to seek opportunities that they want. that's the kind of policy that has been shown to accomplish multiple goals. i'd love for the government to lean to policies like that. >> martha: you ran for mayor of new york city. one of the raps is that you are not a real new yorker. i'm not sure if it makes a difference if you're from new york or not. but they want somebody to clean the city up. this morning reports of people shooting up heroin on the streets is no longer something that the police will bust you for. what do you think when you look at this city that you list in and love? >> i wrote an op-ed about the need for open primaries in new york city. if you have one party in change and they don't have competition, they don't have to consider other points of view, you wind up with policy that doesn't speak for the vast majority of voters. i think that's the kind of change that we need to make around the country. that's what my forward party is about. open primaries so people have more genuine choices. >> martha: so you don't have to have two choices in the end. this is a headline from the hill, an opinion piece today. stop handing out free money for getting the economy back on track. you're an advocate of handing out free money. you talked about the child tax credit, which is a check that you get in the mail and $1,000 in universal basic income. doesn't that zap people's desire to get up and go to work and make people's money? >> it's a entrepreneur and a capitalist. the economy works better when people have buying power. the problem is we're tying the money to negative incentives. if you can get a cheek -- >> martha: there's ten million jobs available in this country. when i had like two dimes to run together, i had a job during the day and waitressed at night. that was my universal basic income for myself. two jobs. isn't that where we want people to be, to sort of be as hart working as they can to work their way up? >> when people have gotten the child tax credit, it's shown to have no effect on work levels or in some cases positive effects. i couldn't agree more. people working is an excellent thing and we need more people to do it. >> martha: it doesn't seem like it should need to be said. people working is a great idea and we need more of it. in this moment, it needs to be said. andrew yang, great to see you. thanks very much. best of luck with the new book. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: and fox news has "all-american christmas" hosted by rachel campos duffy and her husband. i wrote an essay, a chapter of this book. i think it's going to be a beautiful christmas gift. it's available for pre-order now. that's "the story" for today. good to see everybody. the story goes on, as you know. i'll see you back here today. "your world" starts right now. >> neil: do any of you over a certain age remember this image? sputnik, october 1957. then soviet union stuns the world announcing that it had launched a satellite into space. that adding insult to injury, for american pride a few years later, indicating that it had launched the first human being into space. don't look now. but we have had another sputnik moment on a financial times story that was, well, put in perspect

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